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Estate Agents Countrywide & Foxtons in financial difficulties

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    what annoys me is that it should cost more to sell a 250k house than a 500k house.

    you do the same searches,conveyancing etc and put on the same websites

    why get double the money for doing the same job ?
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    Takes longer to walk round the house and grounds though :neutral:

    Should be a flat fee.
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    Beaumont Gibbs in the dip at Plumstead Common. I just liked them. Small independent run company.

    https://beaumontgibbs.com/index.php?option=com_propertylab&view=propertylab&layout=home&Itemid=101


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    edited August 2018
    When I moved 3 years ago I got 3 local estate agents round & asked them how they were going to market & "sell" my property. "Sell" as in tell prospective buyers the great features it had & not just hand out sales particulars to all & sundry. It was a large 4 bed Victorian Semi - only 10 of them in the street & very sought after. I went with Robinson & Jackson as I warmed to the negotiator & she told me she already had people looking for my particular type of property. I did a deal with her re fees.....a sliding scale which meant she got proportionally more once it went over certain amount......1% up to £425k, 1.25% £425k-
    £450k, 1.5% thereafter.

    Sold within a week - couldn't have been happier.

    Does Sarah Beeney do visits ??

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    seth plum said:

    My neighbour says Purple Bricks are a rip off. They charge you hundreds per viewing and lock you in and do nothing. My neighbour even suggested those viewing are in cahoots and get a kick back.
    I have not moved for about 25 years, but if I did it again I would use an estate agent BUT before the process write my own contract/agreement with them. A fixed fee, not a percentage but based on sale price, and expectations regarding viewings, follow ups, and work to oil the wheels and communicate, then monitor the buggers like a hawk.
    What actual work do estate agents do beyond advertising your place and collecting the money? Make them earn it or don't pay. Surveys are equally bad, they say 'yes the place exists, but we recommend you use specialists electricians, plumbers, roofers, flooring experts, stonemasons, window specialists, structural engineers, tree surgeons etc to check things out they won't vouch for.
    Agree a fixed fee with solicitors too.
    The way to sell is anticipate everything and be well prepared to do everything yourself, you end up doing it anyway.
    Don't let the parasites surrounding the house moving industry rip you off. You never get what you think you're paying for, and Purple Bricks are bloodsuckers according to my neighbour.
    How do you think they afford those adverts?

    That's not true, your neighbour is pulling your leg about the pricing. It costs £825 to put your house on the market. Granted, you pay that up front and regardless of whether or not the place sells but that's a fair shout compared to 1% of say a 400k house.
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    Worked for a company taken over by Countrywide, they could be in serious trouble, the lease everything, do not own a single property themselves....
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    edited August 2018
    foxtons have always been aboslutely horrendous. Hope they go out of business, I know some one who used to work for them and they pay their staff minimum wage and work largely on commission. Their staff are largely incompetent or extremely lazy as a result. Especially if you’re a renter.

    Not just that but about a year or two ago weren’t they being done for basically letting Russian gangster launder money?
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    My opinion of Countrywide is not great after working for them...
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    Carter said:

    seth plum said:

    My neighbour says Purple Bricks are a rip off. They charge you hundreds per viewing and lock you in and do nothing. My neighbour even suggested those viewing are in cahoots and get a kick back.
    I have not moved for about 25 years, but if I did it again I would use an estate agent BUT before the process write my own contract/agreement with them. A fixed fee, not a percentage but based on sale price, and expectations regarding viewings, follow ups, and work to oil the wheels and communicate, then monitor the buggers like a hawk.
    What actual work do estate agents do beyond advertising your place and collecting the money? Make them earn it or don't pay. Surveys are equally bad, they say 'yes the place exists, but we recommend you use specialists electricians, plumbers, roofers, flooring experts, stonemasons, window specialists, structural engineers, tree surgeons etc to check things out they won't vouch for.
    Agree a fixed fee with solicitors too.
    The way to sell is anticipate everything and be well prepared to do everything yourself, you end up doing it anyway.
    Don't let the parasites surrounding the house moving industry rip you off. You never get what you think you're paying for, and Purple Bricks are bloodsuckers according to my neighbour.
    How do you think they afford those adverts?

    That's not true, your neighbour is pulling your leg about the pricing. It costs £825 to put your house on the market. Granted, you pay that up front and regardless of whether or not the place sells but that's a fair shout compared to 1% of say a 400k house.
    How does viewing work after the house is on the market?
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    Would like to point out I have not and never have been an estate agent.
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    My heart bleeds

    Fuck em

    Parasites
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    Not heard good things about purple bricks.

    My cousin Rob (Wisdom Estates in Dartford) is an Independent estate agent and is disgusted by some of the antics of his competitors as they give all agents a bad name.

    At the end of the day meet a few agents and see if you get one you like and trust at a rate you are happy to pay.

    Good luck

    PS Rob would happily discuss if you want to call

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    seth plum said:

    Carter said:

    seth plum said:

    My neighbour says Purple Bricks are a rip off. They charge you hundreds per viewing and lock you in and do nothing. My neighbour even suggested those viewing are in cahoots and get a kick back.
    I have not moved for about 25 years, but if I did it again I would use an estate agent BUT before the process write my own contract/agreement with them. A fixed fee, not a percentage but based on sale price, and expectations regarding viewings, follow ups, and work to oil the wheels and communicate, then monitor the buggers like a hawk.
    What actual work do estate agents do beyond advertising your place and collecting the money? Make them earn it or don't pay. Surveys are equally bad, they say 'yes the place exists, but we recommend you use specialists electricians, plumbers, roofers, flooring experts, stonemasons, window specialists, structural engineers, tree surgeons etc to check things out they won't vouch for.
    Agree a fixed fee with solicitors too.
    The way to sell is anticipate everything and be well prepared to do everything yourself, you end up doing it anyway.
    Don't let the parasites surrounding the house moving industry rip you off. You never get what you think you're paying for, and Purple Bricks are bloodsuckers according to my neighbour.
    How do you think they afford those adverts?

    That's not true, your neighbour is pulling your leg about the pricing. It costs £825 to put your house on the market. Granted, you pay that up front and regardless of whether or not the place sells but that's a fair shout compared to 1% of say a 400k house.
    How does viewing work after the house is on the market?
    Not 100% sure on Purple Bricks but my missus sold her place through an online company. Paid £600 instead of the £3k it would have cost through estate agent. They had someone come value the house, stuck it on the usual sites. As for viewings, a company rep wasn't sent with the potential buyers, she had to give them a list of available dates and times she'd be in, and people enquiring would be told these times are available. They turn up, view the place, off they go.
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    seth plum said:

    Carter said:

    seth plum said:

    My neighbour says Purple Bricks are a rip off. They charge you hundreds per viewing and lock you in and do nothing. My neighbour even suggested those viewing are in cahoots and get a kick back.
    I have not moved for about 25 years, but if I did it again I would use an estate agent BUT before the process write my own contract/agreement with them. A fixed fee, not a percentage but based on sale price, and expectations regarding viewings, follow ups, and work to oil the wheels and communicate, then monitor the buggers like a hawk.
    What actual work do estate agents do beyond advertising your place and collecting the money? Make them earn it or don't pay. Surveys are equally bad, they say 'yes the place exists, but we recommend you use specialists electricians, plumbers, roofers, flooring experts, stonemasons, window specialists, structural engineers, tree surgeons etc to check things out they won't vouch for.
    Agree a fixed fee with solicitors too.
    The way to sell is anticipate everything and be well prepared to do everything yourself, you end up doing it anyway.
    Don't let the parasites surrounding the house moving industry rip you off. You never get what you think you're paying for, and Purple Bricks are bloodsuckers according to my neighbour.
    How do you think they afford those adverts?

    That's not true, your neighbour is pulling your leg about the pricing. It costs £825 to put your house on the market. Granted, you pay that up front and regardless of whether or not the place sells but that's a fair shout compared to 1% of say a 400k house.
    How does viewing work after the house is on the market?
    If you want the agent to do the viewings it's an extra 300 quid, if you do them yourself it's no cost
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    Savills
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    Carter said:

    seth plum said:

    Carter said:

    seth plum said:

    My neighbour says Purple Bricks are a rip off. They charge you hundreds per viewing and lock you in and do nothing. My neighbour even suggested those viewing are in cahoots and get a kick back.
    I have not moved for about 25 years, but if I did it again I would use an estate agent BUT before the process write my own contract/agreement with them. A fixed fee, not a percentage but based on sale price, and expectations regarding viewings, follow ups, and work to oil the wheels and communicate, then monitor the buggers like a hawk.
    What actual work do estate agents do beyond advertising your place and collecting the money? Make them earn it or don't pay. Surveys are equally bad, they say 'yes the place exists, but we recommend you use specialists electricians, plumbers, roofers, flooring experts, stonemasons, window specialists, structural engineers, tree surgeons etc to check things out they won't vouch for.
    Agree a fixed fee with solicitors too.
    The way to sell is anticipate everything and be well prepared to do everything yourself, you end up doing it anyway.
    Don't let the parasites surrounding the house moving industry rip you off. You never get what you think you're paying for, and Purple Bricks are bloodsuckers according to my neighbour.
    How do you think they afford those adverts?

    That's not true, your neighbour is pulling your leg about the pricing. It costs £825 to put your house on the market. Granted, you pay that up front and regardless of whether or not the place sells but that's a fair shout compared to 1% of say a 400k house.
    How does viewing work after the house is on the market?
    If you want the agent to do the viewings it's an extra 300 quid, if you do them yourself it's no cost
    Right, clearer now.
    A system open to a bit of manipulation though.
    For example the agent says they have a viewer, but it will be when you're out (or likely to be out), or they don't send anybody because they have the initial dosh anyway.
    Having said that, I would be interested to hear of anybody who had a good, straightforward, affordable, and quite short Purple Bricks experience.
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    seth plum said:

    Carter said:

    seth plum said:

    Carter said:

    seth plum said:

    My neighbour says Purple Bricks are a rip off. They charge you hundreds per viewing and lock you in and do nothing. My neighbour even suggested those viewing are in cahoots and get a kick back.
    I have not moved for about 25 years, but if I did it again I would use an estate agent BUT before the process write my own contract/agreement with them. A fixed fee, not a percentage but based on sale price, and expectations regarding viewings, follow ups, and work to oil the wheels and communicate, then monitor the buggers like a hawk.
    What actual work do estate agents do beyond advertising your place and collecting the money? Make them earn it or don't pay. Surveys are equally bad, they say 'yes the place exists, but we recommend you use specialists electricians, plumbers, roofers, flooring experts, stonemasons, window specialists, structural engineers, tree surgeons etc to check things out they won't vouch for.
    Agree a fixed fee with solicitors too.
    The way to sell is anticipate everything and be well prepared to do everything yourself, you end up doing it anyway.
    Don't let the parasites surrounding the house moving industry rip you off. You never get what you think you're paying for, and Purple Bricks are bloodsuckers according to my neighbour.
    How do you think they afford those adverts?

    That's not true, your neighbour is pulling your leg about the pricing. It costs £825 to put your house on the market. Granted, you pay that up front and regardless of whether or not the place sells but that's a fair shout compared to 1% of say a 400k house.
    How does viewing work after the house is on the market?
    If you want the agent to do the viewings it's an extra 300 quid, if you do them yourself it's no cost
    Right, clearer now.
    A system open to a bit of manipulation though.
    For example the agent says they have a viewer, but it will be when you're out (or likely to be out), or they don't send anybody because they have the initial dosh anyway.
    Having said that, I would be interested to hear of anybody who had a good, straightforward, affordable, and quite short Purple Bricks experience.
    You'd struggle to get a good news story from anyone moving house. Its a horrible, tense, stressful ordeal for everyone on the chain.

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    David Evans in Plumstead are good with sensible advice and keeping you up to date with what's happening.

    Some agents are valuing high, thinking you will then go with them, they then tell you (after a bit of faffing) to drop the price, which makes a hell of a difference to you but not much to them (in the example above - you feel you've lost 50k, they've lost 1.2k - but have made the £10k which they might not have if they'd given a sensible valuation in the first place, because you might not have sent the work to them).

    I was talking to an estate agent recently - *not* from David Evans - who said he judged buyers entirely by the car they drive. Does any normal person do that?
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