Supporters Trust

shirty5

I stopped as a member a couple of years due to my personal opinion re it should be 100% Charlton related, however with the current situation we as supporters find ourselves in with regards to the ownership, i will be rejoining tomorrow.

I personally feel that the more members the trust has, the stronger it can be when standing up against the current owners.

http://www.castrust.org/join/

cabbles

I agree shirty and good to hear you want to rejoin

Weegie Addick

Delighted you want to rejoin, @shirty5.

WestCountryAddick

What do you mean by 100% Charlton related?

Rob7Lee

Welcome back Shirty5!

Covered End

WestCountryAddick said:

What do you mean by 100% Charlton related?

Possibly talking about The Olympic Stadium/West Ham issue. I know Prague did most of "the work", but it went under the "Trust" banner. Personally, I've always been a member.

cfgs

Personally I was a big backer of the Trust, but my membership lapsed when they kept seeking dialogue when I thought that time had long since been and gone. However I think the trust has an important part to play now in trying to unite the support base, if that is possible.

WestCountryAddick

Covered End said:

WestCountryAddick said:

What do you mean by 100% Charlton related?

Possibly talking about The Olympic Stadium/West Ham issue. I know Prague did most of "the work", but it went under the "Trust" banner. Personally, I've always been a member.

I see. Well IMO it was CAFC related as there were fears it would impact on us and our support.

I've been a member for a few years and have no plans to change that.

Brendan_O_Connell

WestCountryAddick said:

Covered End said:

WestCountryAddick said:

What do you mean by 100% Charlton related?

Possibly talking about The Olympic Stadium/West Ham issue. I know Prague did most of "the work", but it went under the "Trust" banner. Personally, I've always been a member.

I see. Well IMO it was CAFC related as there were fears it would impact on us and our support.

I've been a member for a few years and have no plans to change that.

Not only that, but it was our taxes that f***ing paid for it as well (including tax paid by Charlton Athletic).

PragueAddick

There is a second reason why we need the numbers, and its possibly more important than that which @shirty5 mentions. It looks like no matter how strong our membership is, (and it remains one of the biggest, 3 x more members than Fulham or QPR), RD will not accept we are more than just vinegar pissers.

We have to look to the next owners. With them, we should aim to regain real supporter representation, ideally a seat on the Board. We have to show that we are reasonable people who understand the realities of the business of football, but we also need to show that we are genuinely are a big chunk of the fanbase. That is why every new and renewed member will increase our chances of renewing the fans' voice in the boardroom which was a big part of the most successful period of our modern history.

Cardinal Sin

PragueAddick said:

There is a second reason why we need the numbers, and its possibly more important than that which @shirty5 mentions. It looks like no matter how strong our membership is, (and it remains one of the biggest, 3 x more members than Fulham or QPR), RD will not accept we are more than just vinegar pissers.

We have to look to the next owners. With them, we should aim to regain real supporter representation, ideally a seat on the Board. We have to show that we are reasonable people who understand the realities of the business of football, but we also need to show that we are genuinely are a big chunk of the fanbase. That is why every new and renewed member will increase our chances of renewing the fans' voice in the boardroom which was a big part of the most successful period of our modern history.

- Agree completely. The Trust is the biggest recognised supporters' body by a country mile and in the long term it will provide the means and the communication to engage the fanbase if and when the shit really hits the fan and the existence of the club or the Valley are seriously threatened. The bigger it is, the more authority it wields with whomever owns the club. It only costs a fiver per year (a pint in the West End) and that primarily covers admin costs for the updates, newsletters etc. Irrespective of differing views on specifics of how our club is run, we should all make the effort to join.

PragueAddick

Cardinal Sin said:

PragueAddick said:

There is a second reason why we need the numbers, and its possibly more important than that which @shirty5 mentions. It looks like no matter how strong our membership is, (and it remains one of the biggest, 3 x more members than Fulham or QPR), RD will not accept we are more than just vinegar pissers.

We have to look to the next owners. With them, we should aim to regain real supporter representation, ideally a seat on the Board. We have to show that we are reasonable people who understand the realities of the business of football, but we also need to show that we are genuinely are a big chunk of the fanbase. That is why every new and renewed member will increase our chances of renewing the fans' voice in the boardroom which was a big part of the most successful period of our modern history.

- Agree completely. The Trust is the biggest recognised supporters' body by a country mile and in the long term it will provide the means and the communication to engage the fanbase if and when the shit really hits the fan and the existence of the club or the Valley are seriously threatened. The bigger it is, the more authority it wields with whomever owns the club. It only costs a fiver per year (a pint in the West End) and that primarily covers admin costs for the updates, newsletters etc. Irrespective of differing views on specifics of how our club is run, we should all make the effort to join.

@Cardinal Sin

Thanks, and just to say, for those who want to join and be active, there is a space on the Board, and elections whenever there are more interested people than spaces. But in addition I think (and need to persuade the rest of the Board how this can work) that rather than it being The Board, and The Members, there should be a space and role for active members who cannot commit time to attend all the board meets, etc., but who pursue specific "projects" where they have expertise, knowledge, or simply a great idea. We would really love to have one or two young 'digital' people with us, but we recognise they probably don't want to attend meetings with a load of old farts.

If that strikes a chord with anyone, just get in touch.

Pico

"We would really love to have one or two young 'digital' people with us, but we recognise they probably don't want to attend meetings with a load of old farts."

Straight from The Prague Charm Handbook of How to Curry Favour with your Fellow Board Members

LargeAddick

to boost members have you considered an application form in the Voice, if Rick were to agree of course?

cantersaddick

Always meant to join but kept forgetting.... finally got round to it today!

Weegie Addick

Thanks, @cantersaddick, from this old fart ;-)

cantersaddick

Weegie Addick said:

Thanks, @cantersaddick, from this old fart ;-)

Can't comment on your age but I'd prefer you didn't fart in my vicinity!

Solidgone

cantersaddick said:

Weegie Addick said:

Thanks, @cantersaddick, from this old fart ;-)

Can't comment on your age but I'd prefer you didn't fart in my vicinity!

Dear Canters, It's the holy grail to fart in any direction especially if your father is a hamster and mother smells of elderberries. ;0)

cantersaddick

Solidgone said:

cantersaddick said:

Weegie Addick said:

Thanks, @cantersaddick, from this old fart ;-)

Can't comment on your age but I'd prefer you didn't fart in my vicinity!

Dear Canters, It's the holy grail to fart in any direction especially if your father is a hamster and mother smells of elderberries. ;0)

Not sure I understand this...

Covered End

cantersaddick said:

Solidgone said:

cantersaddick said:

Weegie Addick said:

Thanks, @cantersaddick, from this old fart ;-)

Can't comment on your age but I'd prefer you didn't fart in my vicinity!

Dear Canters, It's the holy grail to fart in any direction especially if your father is a hamster and mother smells of elderberries. ;0)

Not sure I understand this...

Phew, thought it was just me. Wibble.

HantsAddick

cantersaddick said:

Solidgone said:

cantersaddick said:

Weegie Addick said:

Thanks, @cantersaddick, from this old fart ;-)

Can't comment on your age but I'd prefer you didn't fart in my vicinity!

Dear Canters, It's the holy grail to fart in any direction especially if your father is a hamster and mother smells of elderberries. ;0)

Not sure I understand this...

Nor me.

stonemuse

HantsAddick said:

cantersaddick said:

Solidgone said:

cantersaddick said:

Weegie Addick said:

Thanks, @cantersaddick, from this old fart ;-)

Can't comment on your age but I'd prefer you didn't fart in my vicinity!

Dear Canters, It's the holy grail to fart in any direction especially if your father is a hamster and mother smells of elderberries. ;0)

Not sure I understand this...

Nor me.

Nor me

Henry Irving

Monty python joke. Definition of old fart humour

Leeds_Addick

PragueAddick said:

Cardinal Sin said:

PragueAddick said:

There is a second reason why we need the numbers, and its possibly more important than that which @shirty5 mentions. It looks like no matter how strong our membership is, (and it remains one of the biggest, 3 x more members than Fulham or QPR), RD will not accept we are more than just vinegar pissers.

We have to look to the next owners. With them, we should aim to regain real supporter representation, ideally a seat on the Board. We have to show that we are reasonable people who understand the realities of the business of football, but we also need to show that we are genuinely are a big chunk of the fanbase. That is why every new and renewed member will increase our chances of renewing the fans' voice in the boardroom which was a big part of the most successful period of our modern history.

- Agree completely. The Trust is the biggest recognised supporters' body by a country mile and in the long term it will provide the means and the communication to engage the fanbase if and when the shit really hits the fan and the existence of the club or the Valley are seriously threatened. The bigger it is, the more authority it wields with whomever owns the club. It only costs a fiver per year (a pint in the West End) and that primarily covers admin costs for the updates, newsletters etc. Irrespective of differing views on specifics of how our club is run, we should all make the effort to join.

@Cardinal Sin

Thanks, and just to say, for those who want to join and be active, there is a space on the Board, and elections whenever there are more interested people than spaces. But in addition I think (and need to persuade the rest of the Board how this can work) that rather than it being The Board, and The Members, there should be a space and role for active members who cannot commit time to attend all the board meets, etc., but who pursue specific "projects" where they have expertise, knowledge, or simply a great idea. We would really love to have one or two young 'digital' people with us, but we recognise they probably don't want to attend meetings with a load of old farts.

If that strikes a chord with anyone, just get in touch.

Not sure how 'digital' you meant but I'd consider myself so.

I'm moving permanently back to London this Summer (finished uni) and sounds like the kind've thing I'd be interested in. Will send you a direct message.

SDAddick

PragueAddick said:

Cardinal Sin said:

PragueAddick said:

There is a second reason why we need the numbers, and its possibly more important than that which @shirty5 mentions. It looks like no matter how strong our membership is, (and it remains one of the biggest, 3 x more members than Fulham or QPR), RD will not accept we are more than just vinegar pissers.

We have to look to the next owners. With them, we should aim to regain real supporter representation, ideally a seat on the Board. We have to show that we are reasonable people who understand the realities of the business of football, but we also need to show that we are genuinely are a big chunk of the fanbase. That is why every new and renewed member will increase our chances of renewing the fans' voice in the boardroom which was a big part of the most successful period of our modern history.

- Agree completely. The Trust is the biggest recognised supporters' body by a country mile and in the long term it will provide the means and the communication to engage the fanbase if and when the shit really hits the fan and the existence of the club or the Valley are seriously threatened. The bigger it is, the more authority it wields with whomever owns the club. It only costs a fiver per year (a pint in the West End) and that primarily covers admin costs for the updates, newsletters etc. Irrespective of differing views on specifics of how our club is run, we should all make the effort to join.

@Cardinal Sin

Thanks, and just to say, for those who want to join and be active, there is a space on the Board, and elections whenever there are more interested people than spaces. But in addition I think (and need to persuade the rest of the Board how this can work) that rather than it being The Board, and The Members, there should be a space and role for active members who cannot commit time to attend all the board meets, etc., but who pursue specific "projects" where they have expertise, knowledge, or simply a great idea. We would really love to have one or two young 'digital' people with us, but we recognise they probably don't want to attend meetings with a load of old farts.

If that strikes a chord with anyone, just get in touch.

Give us a shout if you need an overseas consultant! Except for Australia...I refuse to acknowledge the wrong hemisphere.

Seriously though, I am so, so happy to hear you talking about a seat on the board. It's something I've banged on about on here, but hadn't seen anyone else mention (that said, I am not involved particularly involved in Trust matters so it's likely I've just missed it). I think having a supporters' representative on the board is crucial, and should be a requirement in this country. There are a limited number of things the FA can do right now to improve how football clubs are run, but that is definitely one.

Along with Leeds, I'd be happy to volunteer some time. I'm not local obviously, so it'd need to be web-based and don't know if there's a need for that, but always happy to help.

PragueAddick

@SDAddick

I will PM you. Cheers, mate.

Covered End

SDAddick said:

PragueAddick said:

Cardinal Sin said:

PragueAddick said:

There is a second reason why we need the numbers, and its possibly more important than that which @shirty5 mentions. It looks like no matter how strong our membership is, (and it remains one of the biggest, 3 x more members than Fulham or QPR), RD will not accept we are more than just vinegar pissers.

We have to look to the next owners. With them, we should aim to regain real supporter representation, ideally a seat on the Board. We have to show that we are reasonable people who understand the realities of the business of football, but we also need to show that we are genuinely are a big chunk of the fanbase. That is why every new and renewed member will increase our chances of renewing the fans' voice in the boardroom which was a big part of the most successful period of our modern history.

- Agree completely. The Trust is the biggest recognised supporters' body by a country mile and in the long term it will provide the means and the communication to engage the fanbase if and when the shit really hits the fan and the existence of the club or the Valley are seriously threatened. The bigger it is, the more authority it wields with whomever owns the club. It only costs a fiver per year (a pint in the West End) and that primarily covers admin costs for the updates, newsletters etc. Irrespective of differing views on specifics of how our club is run, we should all make the effort to join.

@Cardinal Sin

Thanks, and just to say, for those who want to join and be active, there is a space on the Board, and elections whenever there are more interested people than spaces. But in addition I think (and need to persuade the rest of the Board how this can work) that rather than it being The Board, and The Members, there should be a space and role for active members who cannot commit time to attend all the board meets, etc., but who pursue specific "projects" where they have expertise, knowledge, or simply a great idea. We would really love to have one or two young 'digital' people with us, but we recognise they probably don't want to attend meetings with a load of old farts.

If that strikes a chord with anyone, just get in touch.

Give us a shout if you need an overseas consultant! Except for Australia...I refuse to acknowledge the wrong hemisphere.

Seriously though, I am so, so happy to hear you talking about a seat on the board. It's something I've banged on about on here, but hadn't seen anyone else mention (that said, I am not involved particularly involved in Trust matters so it's likely I've just missed it). I think having a supporters' representative on the board is crucial, and should be a requirement in this country. There are a limited number of things the FA can do right now to improve how football clubs are run, but that is definitely one.

Along with Leeds, I'd be happy to volunteer some time. I'm not local obviously, so it'd need to be web-based and don't know if there's a need for that, but always happy to help.

It's a seat on the "Trust board" not the football club.

PragueAddick

Covered End said:

SDAddick said:

PragueAddick said:

Cardinal Sin said:

PragueAddick said:

There is a second reason why we need the numbers, and its possibly more important than that which @shirty5 mentions. It looks like no matter how strong our membership is, (and it remains one of the biggest, 3 x more members than Fulham or QPR), RD will not accept we are more than just vinegar pissers.

We have to look to the next owners. With them, we should aim to regain real supporter representation, ideally a seat on the Board. We have to show that we are reasonable people who understand the realities of the business of football, but we also need to show that we are genuinely are a big chunk of the fanbase. That is why every new and renewed member will increase our chances of renewing the fans' voice in the boardroom which was a big part of the most successful period of our modern history.

- Agree completely. The Trust is the biggest recognised supporters' body by a country mile and in the long term it will provide the means and the communication to engage the fanbase if and when the shit really hits the fan and the existence of the club or the Valley are seriously threatened. The bigger it is, the more authority it wields with whomever owns the club. It only costs a fiver per year (a pint in the West End) and that primarily covers admin costs for the updates, newsletters etc. Irrespective of differing views on specifics of how our club is run, we should all make the effort to join.

@Cardinal Sin

Thanks, and just to say, for those who want to join and be active, there is a space on the Board, and elections whenever there are more interested people than spaces. But in addition I think (and need to persuade the rest of the Board how this can work) that rather than it being The Board, and The Members, there should be a space and role for active members who cannot commit time to attend all the board meets, etc., but who pursue specific "projects" where they have expertise, knowledge, or simply a great idea. We would really love to have one or two young 'digital' people with us, but we recognise they probably don't want to attend meetings with a load of old farts.

If that strikes a chord with anyone, just get in touch.

Give us a shout if you need an overseas consultant! Except for Australia...I refuse to acknowledge the wrong hemisphere.

Seriously though, I am so, so happy to hear you talking about a seat on the board. It's something I've banged on about on here, but hadn't seen anyone else mention (that said, I am not involved particularly involved in Trust matters so it's likely I've just missed it). I think having a supporters' representative on the board is crucial, and should be a requirement in this country. There are a limited number of things the FA can do right now to improve how football clubs are run, but that is definitely one.

Along with Leeds, I'd be happy to volunteer some time. I'm not local obviously, so it'd need to be web-based and don't know if there's a need for that, but always happy to help.

It's a seat on the "Trust board" not the football club.

I believe @SDAddick is referring to our goal of regaining a seat on the Charlton board under new ownership, which I mentioned in my post as a key reason why we need a strong membership.

That is the goal of the entire Trust movement, btw.

Covered End

Sorry, I didn't read your post.