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What if ...
Dave Rudd
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Not me, you understand, but a friend. Yes, a friend ... that's it.
What if ... you were researching your family tree and discovered that, when football was invented, all your family came from a different part of the country?
Don't you have to support that local club? Genetically, I mean.
My friend is keen to know.
What if ... you were researching your family tree and discovered that, when football was invented, all your family came from a different part of the country?
Don't you have to support that local club? Genetically, I mean.
My friend is keen to know.
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Where are you from then (sorry where's your friend from) ;-)0
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who cares0
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[cite]Posted By: uncle[/cite]Where are you from then (sorry where's your friend from) ;-)
Purely hypothetical, uncle. Purely hypothetical.
Let's say ... oh, I don't know ... Ipswich or somewhere.0 -
[cite]Posted By: Dave Rudd[/cite]Let's say ... oh, I don't know ... Ipswich or somewhere.
"Fertiliser, fertiliser ...". I wouldn't reveal too much, Dave - you'll have some fans singing THAT song.
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Do Jallaundar,Punjab,India have a team?0
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[cite]Posted By: Kap10[/cite]Do Jallaundar,Punjab,India have a team?
Yep, and they might be just too good for this Charlton team.0 -
Someone found in our family tree recently that one of my great relatives was trialed for murder at the Old Bailey.
Does that make me a murderer? I think it does.0 -
Dont say that Mr Rudd......Ive done my research and my family gravitated around the Middlesex area, being brickmakers as they were....sad thing is.....Tottenham was in Middlesex in those days...dear lord help me....lol0
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If it was your Great Grandad he had a bloody good lawyer!0
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Or he bred early!0
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Depending on which branch of the family I look at, I would have supported either Bantry Bay Rovers FC, Plymouth Argyle, Hartlepool. ... or Charlton ... therefore I consider that I am supporting one of my traditional local clubs0
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[cite]Posted By: stonemuse[/cite]Depending on which branch of the family I look at, I would have supported either Bantry Bay Rovers FC, Plymouth Argyle, Hartlepool. ... or Charlton ... therefore I consider that I am supporting one of my traditional local clubs
Now ... this raises a good point.
I reckon (sorry, my friend reckons) that you should look at the main paternal line. So, grandfather, great grandfather, great great grandfather etc.
Please tell me it's Bantry Bay Rovers, stonemuse!0 -
I think that would probably make me West Ham...
It's an interesting idea, but can we afford to lose any more fans?!0 -
Geographically, back in the mists of time, no branches of my family were from London but as one each of my 3X and 4X great grandfathers had the christian name Charlton I feel my allegiance is appropiate.0
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[cite]Posted By: Dave Rudd[/cite][cite]Posted By: stonemuse[/cite]Depending on which branch of the family I look at, I would have supported either Bantry Bay Rovers FC, Plymouth Argyle, Hartlepool. ... or Charlton ... therefore I consider that I am supporting one of my traditional local clubs
Now ... this raises a good point.
I reckon (sorry, my friend reckons) that you should look at the main paternal line. So, grandfather, great grandfather, great great grandfather etc.
Please tell me it's Bantry Bay Rovers, stonemuse!
If it is main paternal... then it is indeed Bantry Bay Rovers :-))0 -
I believe that quite a lot of football lovers have already adopted this philosophy, and now follow their "genetic" team.
Isn't it amazing how many people come from the Trafford area of Manchester?0 -
If only people did support a local team.. It would get rid of all the plastic man.ure fans from Essex0
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[cite]Posted By: Eddie Firmani[/cite]I believe that quite a lot of football lovers have already adopted this philosophy, and now follow their "genetic" team.
Isn't it amazing how many people come from the Trafford area of Manchester?
That IS amazing. Quite a few from north and west London too...0 -
I've been researching my family tree, really interesting.
Going back to the 1800s I had direct ancestors born all over the UK. Surrey, Essex, Nottinghamshire, Derbyshire, Somerset, Staffordshire, Suffolk, north and south Wales, Scotland, Ireland. Probably more than that who I haven't found yet.0 -
You (sorry, your friend) should always support your (sorry, their) team on a geographical basis, dependant on where you (sorry, your friend) was born. It is acceptable to adopt your (sorry, your friends) Fathers team on the provisor that he actually takes you (sorry, your friend) to games and the team is NOT Crystal Palace or Millwall.
It's also acceptable to adopt a local team if you move but your (sorry, your friends) heart must always be with Charlton.0 -
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My paternal line through the generations has always been Charlton.
But my mother's family were all Cockneys, on the other side of the water ......and West Ham supporters.
My grandmother's brother played for West Ham just after the First World War - and her family were naturally all Hammers.
On a slightly different note........ Ron and Peter Springett, both 1960s goalkeepers were my Nan's cousin's sons.
Ron played for England 33 times; first choice keeper in the 1962 World Cup but kept out of the 1966 winning side by Gordon Banks, naturally.
Both brothers played for Sheffield Wednesday, and in 1967 they swapped clubs in a player exchange deal.0 -
[cite]Posted By: Oggy Red[/cite]My paternal line through the generations has always been Charlton.
But my mother's family were all Cockneys, on the other side of the water ......and West Ham supporters.
My grandmother's brother played for West Ham just after the First World War - and her family were naturally all Hammers.
On a slightly different note........ Ron and Peter Springett, both 1960s goalkeepers were my Nan's cousin's sons.
Ron played for England 33 times; first choice keeper in the 1962 World Cup but kept out of the 1966 winning side by Gordon Banks, naturally.
Both brothers played for Sheffield Wednesday, and in 1967 they swapped clubs in a player exchange deal.
Ron and Peter are your 2nd cousins once removed then...0 -
Seem to remember Ron at Wednesday as a kid...0
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Just remembered - I was once related to someone from Eltham who supported Arsenal because they originated in Woolwich. Not, of course, because they were always winning things.0
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[cite]Posted By: LenGlover[/cite]
Ron and Peter are your 2nd cousins once removed then...
Ah, so that's how "cousins once removed" is worked out? I've always wondered, Duh!
My Nan's maiden name was Springett. I remember my Nan telling me about them in the late 60s when I was a kid.
But because that side of my late Nan's family is so distant, I had never met them.
Peter Springett died from cancer in the middle 90s I remember, but older brother Ron is still going strong.0 -
[cite]Posted By: Eddie Firmani[/cite]Just remembered - I was once related to someone from Eltham who supported Arsenal because they originated in Woolwich. Not, of course, because they were always winning things.
I've got a friend who supports Arsenal on that basis - his great grandfather used to sell peanuts in the ground on matchdays apparently.0 -
[cite]Posted By: Saga Lout[/cite][cite]Posted By: Eddie Firmani[/cite]Just remembered - I was once related to someone from Eltham who supported Arsenal because they originated in Woolwich. Not, of course, because they were always winning things.
I've got a friend who supports Arsenal on that basis - his great grandfather used to sell peanuts in the ground on matchdays apparently.
I confess that I've never bothered to look at this, but where was the original Arsenal ground located? Plumstead Common rings a bell for some reason, but is there any remaining evidence of their old ground?0 -
[cite]Posted By: Dave Rudd[/cite][cite]Posted By: Saga Lout[/cite][cite]Posted By: Eddie Firmani[/cite]Just remembered - I was once related to someone from Eltham who supported Arsenal because they originated in Woolwich. Not, of course, because they were always winning things.
I've got a friend who supports Arsenal on that basis - his great grandfather used to sell peanuts in the ground on matchdays apparently.
I confess that I've never bothered to look at this, but where was the original Arsenal ground located? Plumstead Common rings a bell for some reason, but is there any remaining evidence of their old ground?
Bits of terracing buried in back gardens from what I've heard.
I could be wrong but I always thought their ground was in the Harrow Manorway area.0 -
Found this link.
http://www.arsenal.com/history/laying-the-foundations/woolwich-arsenal-play-their-first-game
The ground was called the Manor ground so could be Harrow Manorway area
EDIT: Could also be Plumstead Manor as the photo says Plumstead...0 -
http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:CousinTree_kinship.svg[cite]Posted By: Oggy Red[/cite]Ah, so that's how "cousins once removed" is worked out? I've always wondered, Duh!
There's a "cousin chart" on wikipedia that makes it a bit clearer0
