Tyreece Campbell thread

Scoham said:

Didn't watch the game but seems TC played very well for Jamaica.

Fans need to stop booing him and get behind him as he doesn't respond well to negativity and trust that Jones is doing the right thing by playing him

Amazing how differently a footballer can play when he's not visibly worried about the reaction he'll get from the stands if he doesn't do something game-changing every time he gets the ball

Sword65pf said:

Garrymanilow said:

Amazing how differently a footballer can play when he's not visibly worried about the reaction he'll get from the stands if he doesn't do something game-changing every time he gets the ball

I agree, however, it’s not realistic to expect everyone to not react to watching things that disappoint them about his game and don’t say anything in a football stadium. Absolutely there is no place for abuse, but shouting displeasure in performance is part of the game that these players are trained in how to deal with. If he can learn to deal with it better as a lot of other players do/ have(for example Beckham in the past of which I’ve never heard a player get so much abuse about him and his family in a football stadium and sadly it was at the valley,White at the moment) I’m sure he will improve and have more consistency. I reiterate before anyone jumps in, the abuse people mention is not acceptable, but for his own good he probably needs to have thicker skin and let the football do its talking.

It's thick as pigshit to watch a footballer who clearly plays better when people support him and retreats into his shell when he's abused and think that the best thing to do is shout abuse when he does something wrong. As a fan the sensible thing would be to do the thing that would get the best out of the player but instead far too many Charlton fans spot that weakness in Campbell and are just waiting for him to make a mistake, as a great many people have noticed at the stadium. Unfortunately that's just the nature of a lot of football fans though and we get what we deserve

Crispywood said:

Scoham said:

Didn't watch the game but seems TC played very well for Jamaica.

He was quality especially Considering he was up against arguably very good fullback in wan-bissaka, looks like he found it so much more conformtable when he wasn’t doubled/tripled up on 

Amazing what a player can do when they’re not played out of position.

The Red Robin said:

Crispywood said:

Scoham said:

Didn't watch the game but seems TC played very well for Jamaica.

He was quality especially Considering he was up against arguably very good fullback in wan-bissaka, looks like he found it so much more conformtable when he wasn’t doubled/tripled up on 

Amazing what a player can do when they’re not played out of position.

To be fair he’s not suddenly become CR7.😂

Watching the game last night it was a delight to see him worrying the life out of wan basaka but also infuriating as he just doesn’t do that for us made me think that he must be following orders to keep checking back all the time 

The Red Robin said:

Crispywood said:

Scoham said:

Didn't watch the game but seems TC played very well for Jamaica.

He was quality especially Considering he was up against arguably very good fullback in wan-bissaka, looks like he found it so much more conformtable when he wasn’t doubled/tripled up on 

Amazing what a player can do when they’re not played out of position.

Don’t understand why people keep going on about him being played out of position. I genuinely cannot remember him receiving the ball anywhere but the left wing since we started playing this system. 

AFKABartram said:

Garrymanilow said:

Sword65pf said:

Garrymanilow said:

Amazing how differently a footballer can play when he's not visibly worried about the reaction he'll get from the stands if he doesn't do something game-changing every time he gets the ball

I agree, however, it’s not realistic to expect everyone to not react to watching things that disappoint them about his game and don’t say anything in a football stadium. Absolutely there is no place for abuse, but shouting displeasure in performance is part of the game that these players are trained in how to deal with. If he can learn to deal with it better as a lot of other players do/ have(for example Beckham in the past of which I’ve never heard a player get so much abuse about him and his family in a football stadium and sadly it was at the valley,White at the moment) I’m sure he will improve and have more consistency. I reiterate before anyone jumps in, the abuse people mention is not acceptable, but for his own good he probably needs to have thicker skin and let the football do its talking.

It's thick as pigshit to watch a footballer who clearly plays better when people support him and retreats into his shell when he's abused and think that the best thing to do is shout abuse when he does something wrong. As a fan the sensible thing would be to do the thing that would get the best out of the player but instead far too many Charlton fans spot that weakness in Campbell and are just waiting for him to make a mistake, as a great many people have noticed at the stadium. Unfortunately that's just the nature of a lot of football fans though and we get what we deserve

As this rumbles on and on I notice more of a ‘it’s the fans fault’ narrative seems to be forming. If that’s your view, fair enough I’m not gonna look to seek to change your view. Personally I think it’s as nonsense as the fans forced Curbs out narrative. 

I sit in the East and I’ve never heard him ‘abused’ whenever he has played on that side of the pitch. If others say it happens elsewhere, I’ll have to take their word for it. I do remember the crowd singing his name though last game, as they have every single game, so let’s not make out there is some universal hate target at play. 

I’d like to think as a majority we have a lot of decent fans on this forum. Personally, I’d never boo or abuse a player in our shirt regardless of how I think about them as a player. I reckon the vast majority of posters on here are the same. 

After a big step forward last season, Campbell has had a disappointing year, a poor return of statistical game impacts has been matched with relatively low scoring in our Statbank. It’s generated split camps though, which have multiplied the focus and comment on it. It’s all getting a bit silly tbh

I don’t think Jones has helped him much tbh by rating him so highly and versatilely, whilst building a squad in style where Campbell is such a notable outliner (and in turn, relied on to ‘perform’ commodity).  

I think this is a lot of conflation of things to cover up for the fact that some people at games are really unpleasant and it clearly affects some players more than others. No-one has ever said TC is a universal hate target just like no-one actually associated with Charlton has ever said that the fans wanted Curbishley out, but everyone would agree that there were a vocal minority saying it. It's the same at games with TC, there are groups who are just waiting for him to make a mistake, who booed when he wasn't substituted recently, who give him more grief than anyone else would get if he loses the ball. It can't be pretended that it's just not happening because it isn't everyone. I'd also say that while this thread pipes up regularly in a way it doesn't for other players when TC gets something wrong the people on this forum are a million miles better than the worst elements at a game, I'd be surprised if some of them could actually use the internet. I don't think there's a narrative that it's the fans' fault, pretty much everyone who points out the abuse accepts that he's had bad performances this season, but it's undeniable that he reacts to getting grief from the stands badly and it makes no sense to be adding to the problem but the conversation regularly gets turned away from that for whatever reason

AFKABartram said:

Garrymanilow said:

Sword65pf said:

Garrymanilow said:

Amazing how differently a footballer can play when he's not visibly worried about the reaction he'll get from the stands if he doesn't do something game-changing every time he gets the ball

I agree, however, it’s not realistic to expect everyone to not react to watching things that disappoint them about his game and don’t say anything in a football stadium. Absolutely there is no place for abuse, but shouting displeasure in performance is part of the game that these players are trained in how to deal with. If he can learn to deal with it better as a lot of other players do/ have(for example Beckham in the past of which I’ve never heard a player get so much abuse about him and his family in a football stadium and sadly it was at the valley,White at the moment) I’m sure he will improve and have more consistency. I reiterate before anyone jumps in, the abuse people mention is not acceptable, but for his own good he probably needs to have thicker skin and let the football do its talking.

It's thick as pigshit to watch a footballer who clearly plays better when people support him and retreats into his shell when he's abused and think that the best thing to do is shout abuse when he does something wrong. As a fan the sensible thing would be to do the thing that would get the best out of the player but instead far too many Charlton fans spot that weakness in Campbell and are just waiting for him to make a mistake, as a great many people have noticed at the stadium. Unfortunately that's just the nature of a lot of football fans though and we get what we deserve

As this rumbles on and on I notice more of a ‘it’s the fans fault’ narrative seems to be forming. If that’s your view, fair enough I’m not gonna look to seek to change your view. Personally I think it’s as nonsense as the fans forced Curbs out narrative. 

I sit in the East and I’ve never heard him ‘abused’ whenever he has played on that side of the pitch. If others say it happens elsewhere, I’ll have to take their word for it. I do remember the crowd singing his name though last game, as they have every single game, so let’s not make out there is some universal hate target at play. 

I’d like to think as a majority we have a lot of decent fans on this forum. Personally, I’d never boo or abuse a player in our shirt regardless of how I think about them as a player. I reckon the vast majority of posters on here are the same. 

After a big step forward last season, Campbell has had a disappointing year, a poor return of statistical game impacts has been matched with relatively low scoring in our Statbank. It’s generated split camps though, which have multiplied the focus and comment on it. It’s all getting a bit silly tbh

I don’t think Jones has helped him much tbh by rating him so highly and versatilely, whilst building a squad in style where Campbell is such a notable outliner (and in turn, relied on to ‘perform’ commodity).  

If you measure his year purely on goals and assists then maybe. I think he's had another year where he's been a key part of a system in a team that has over-achieved. He's one of 3 players (alongside Jones and Carey) to have played every single game this season, if he was as bad as some make out on here then we'd surely not be doing this well if he's on the pitch every game? If people were expecting him to score and assist more while jumping up a level then your expectations were probably unrealistic to start with

I've never heard the East stand make any noise so I'm not surprised there's no abuse from there. In the North Upper and every away game there is plenty of it and it has been getting worse and worse each game recently

Try sitting in the Covered End @AFKABartram

I haven’t been over to the Valley in a couple of months.  Have the fans really been abusive lately? From what I have seen this year, fans would voice their displeasure when he over hit a cross or didn’t track back quick enough but that is part and parcel to being a professional footballer.  If he can’t handle that then there is a bigger problem.

if there is actual abuse happening (ie slurs, profanity/name calling etc) then I would be really disappointed in our fan base. While there has been an uptick in fans who just who want to be angry all the time and act like idiots (both at the club and across football).  I would hope it hadn’t gotten to a level where it is anything other than a small outlier at the Valley

Must be a very short list of strikers to have played 40 games this season and have 3 goals in total. 

Not his fault, he's not a striker by any stretch of the imagination. Trying to shoehorn him into this role is pointless when it leaves Dykes playing alongside no-one. 

Fortune 82nd Minute said:

May I be the first to say that was an effing appalling miss by Campbell today.

Careful....calling it as you see it can get you in trouble on here.. especially when it involves Campbell 

Leuth said:

We're a better side when he's on the pitch 

A very low bar indeed