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Will Duchatelet’s ears be pricking up.🤔

I didn’t catch the whole of the piece on BBC news this morning but there was some mention of new legislation regarding freeing up playing fields and sports grounds for housing development.
I wonder will this in any way affect Sparrows Lane. 🫣
Airman/Prague one for you guys to ponder on maybe?

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  • stoneroses19
    stoneroses19 Posts: 7,357
    Haven't seen it, but presumably they weren't talking about professional sports grounds, and rather amateur/local venues. 

    There's no way there's legislation coming in which will allow owners to sell land/knock down professional sports grounds for development purposes. 
  • DOUCHER
    DOUCHER Posts: 8,225
    Please don't disturb Airman, he's fighting another good cause atm. I was working away with LBC on last week and he was in the process of undermining Farage with some unpaid or OTT event costs or similar  - 'Richard Everitt, described by Reform as a digruntled ex council employee' - water off a ducks back i'm sure.    
  • bobmunro
    bobmunro Posts: 21,107
    Haven't seen it, but presumably they weren't talking about professional sports grounds, and rather amateur/local venues. 

    There's no way there's legislation coming in which will allow owners to sell land/knock down professional sports grounds for development purposes. 

    Certainly not football grounds or anything to do with professional football with the IFR just able to show its teeth.
  • Rothko
    Rothko Posts: 18,876
    It’s about stripping Sport England of its statutory right to be consulted about planning applications on sports fields, not about major stadiums 
  • Richard J
    Richard J Posts: 8,042
    DOUCHER said:
    Please don't disturb Airman, he's fighting another good cause atm. I was working away with LBC on last week and he was in the process of undermining Farage with some unpaid or OTT event costs or similar  - 'Richard Everitt, described by Reform as a digruntled ex council employee' - water off a ducks back i'm sure.    
    Think that is a namesake and not Airman 

    Somehow I don't think he would ever have supported Farage as this ' disgruntled' gentleman had previously done 
  • DOUCHER
    DOUCHER Posts: 8,225
    Richard J said:
    DOUCHER said:
    Please don't disturb Airman, he's fighting another good cause atm. I was working away with LBC on last week and he was in the process of undermining Farage with some unpaid or OTT event costs or similar  - 'Richard Everitt, described by Reform as a digruntled ex council employee' - water off a ducks back i'm sure.    
    Think that is a namesake and not Airman 

    Somehow I don't think he would ever have supported Farage as this ' disgruntled' gentleman had previously done 
    he wasn't supporting Farage - the opposite 
  • Richard J
    Richard J Posts: 8,042
    DOUCHER said:
    Richard J said:
    DOUCHER said:
    Please don't disturb Airman, he's fighting another good cause atm. I was working away with LBC on last week and he was in the process of undermining Farage with some unpaid or OTT event costs or similar  - 'Richard Everitt, described by Reform as a digruntled ex council employee' - water off a ducks back i'm sure.    
    Think that is a namesake and not Airman 

    Somehow I don't think he would ever have supported Farage as this ' disgruntled' gentleman had previously done 
    he wasn't supporting Farage - the opposite 
    I understand that , but the allegations came from an ex member of Reform.
  • SoundAsaÂŁ
    SoundAsaÂŁ Posts: 22,586
    Haven't seen it, but presumably they weren't talking about professional sports grounds, and rather amateur/local venues. 

    There's no way there's legislation coming in which will allow owners to sell land/knock down professional sports grounds for development purposes. 
    I hope that’s the case mate.🤞
  • shirty5
    shirty5 Posts: 19,434

    I didn’t catch the whole of the piece on BBC news this morning but there was some mention of new legislation regarding freeing up playing fields and sports grounds for housing development.
    I wonder will this in any way affect Sparrows Lane. 🫣
    Airman/Prague one for you guys to ponder on maybe?

    Unless Greenwich Council want to once again be the biggest bunch of arseholes they was over 35 years ago then there is nothing to worry about 

    The Labour run council could not be that stupid could they 
  • TelMc32
    TelMc32 Posts: 9,170
    shirty5 said:

    I didn’t catch the whole of the piece on BBC news this morning but there was some mention of new legislation regarding freeing up playing fields and sports grounds for housing development.
    I wonder will this in any way affect Sparrows Lane. 🫣
    Airman/Prague one for you guys to ponder on maybe?

    Unless Greenwich Council want to once again be the biggest bunch of arseholes they was over 35 years ago then there is nothing to worry about 

    The Labour run council could not be that stupid could they 
    I wonder if they’ll still be in charge after May, but don’t want to think of anyone else who might think alienating our fanbase - again - would be a good idea.

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  • SoundAsaÂŁ
    SoundAsaÂŁ Posts: 22,586
    edited December 23
    TelMc32 said:
    shirty5 said:

    I didn’t catch the whole of the piece on BBC news this morning but there was some mention of new legislation regarding freeing up playing fields and sports grounds for housing development.
    I wonder will this in any way affect Sparrows Lane. 🫣
    Airman/Prague one for you guys to ponder on maybe?

    Unless Greenwich Council want to once again be the biggest bunch of arseholes they was over 35 years ago then there is nothing to worry about 

    The Labour run council could not be that stupid could they 
    I wonder if they’ll still be in charge after May, but don’t want to think of anyone else who might think alienating our fanbase - again - would be a good idea.
    Well yes and no.
    Surely it depends on what the legislation says…..it may openly allow sales of private sports grounds which were previously protected in one way or another, thus giving local councils little or no say in the matter.
    I have no idea…..maybe I am worrying about nothing.🫤
  • Rothko
    Rothko Posts: 18,876
    TelMc32 said:
    shirty5 said:

    I didn’t catch the whole of the piece on BBC news this morning but there was some mention of new legislation regarding freeing up playing fields and sports grounds for housing development.
    I wonder will this in any way affect Sparrows Lane. 🫣
    Airman/Prague one for you guys to ponder on maybe?

    Unless Greenwich Council want to once again be the biggest bunch of arseholes they was over 35 years ago then there is nothing to worry about 

    The Labour run council could not be that stupid could they 
    I wonder if they’ll still be in charge after May, but don’t want to think of anyone else who might think alienating our fanbase - again - would be a good idea.
    Well yes and no.
    Surely it depends on what the legislation says…..it may openly allow sales of private sports grounds which were previously protected in one way or another.
    I have no idea…..maybe I am worrying about nothing.🫤
    It’s got nothing to do with the Valley, it’s a change to who gets consulted and Sport Englands ability to veto development 
  • SoundAsaÂŁ
    SoundAsaÂŁ Posts: 22,586
    Rothko said:
    TelMc32 said:
    shirty5 said:

    I didn’t catch the whole of the piece on BBC news this morning but there was some mention of new legislation regarding freeing up playing fields and sports grounds for housing development.
    I wonder will this in any way affect Sparrows Lane. 🫣
    Airman/Prague one for you guys to ponder on maybe?

    Unless Greenwich Council want to once again be the biggest bunch of arseholes they was over 35 years ago then there is nothing to worry about 

    The Labour run council could not be that stupid could they 
    I wonder if they’ll still be in charge after May, but don’t want to think of anyone else who might think alienating our fanbase - again - would be a good idea.
    Well yes and no.
    Surely it depends on what the legislation says…..it may openly allow sales of private sports grounds which were previously protected in one way or another.
    I have no idea…..maybe I am worrying about nothing.🫤
    It’s got nothing to do with the Valley, it’s a change to who gets consulted and Sport Englands ability to veto development 
    I’m reffering to Sparrows Lane, not The Valley.
  • Rothko
    Rothko Posts: 18,876
    But it’s in active use, the changes are
    there to speed up development on dead sites which have no opportunity of coming back. Sport England would go, it was once and could again, so no to the development 
  • Sword65pf
    Sword65pf Posts: 427
    Rothko said:
    TelMc32 said:
    shirty5 said:

    I didn’t catch the whole of the piece on BBC news this morning but there was some mention of new legislation regarding freeing up playing fields and sports grounds for housing development.
    I wonder will this in any way affect Sparrows Lane. 🫣
    Airman/Prague one for you guys to ponder on maybe?

    Unless Greenwich Council want to once again be the biggest bunch of arseholes they was over 35 years ago then there is nothing to worry about 

    The Labour run council could not be that stupid could they 
    I wonder if they’ll still be in charge after May, but don’t want to think of anyone else who might think alienating our fanbase - again - would be a good idea.
    Well yes and no.
    Surely it depends on what the legislation says…..it may openly allow sales of private sports grounds which were previously protected in one way or another.
    I have no idea…..maybe I am worrying about nothing.🫤
    It’s got nothing to do with the Valley, it’s a change to who gets consulted and Sport Englands ability to veto development 
    I’m reffering to Sparrows Lane, not The Valley.
    If there was the slightest chance of losing sparrows lane to the property market they wouldn’t bother improving the current facility , so I’d say the legal side of things are pretty clued up on all of this. These people at the club aren’t for pissing money up the wall. 
  • JustFloydRoad
    JustFloydRoad Posts: 1,906
    Haven't seen it, but presumably they weren't talking about professional sports grounds, and rather amateur/local venues. 

    There's no way there's legislation coming in which will allow owners to sell land/knock down professional sports grounds for development purposes. 
    BBC Report:


    The Guardian Article




  • JustFloydRoad
    JustFloydRoad Posts: 1,906
    edited December 24
    but presumably they weren't talking about professional sports grounds, and rather amateur/local venues. 

    There's no way there's legislation coming in which will allow owners to sell land/knock down professional sports grounds for development purposes. 
    I had a guess it to make it easier for the council to build on something (speaking about my local community here) like the old Hare and Hounds ground. I might be getting the wrong end of the stick (and that land is owned by the local Indian restaurant), but it is depressing passing by what was once a operational football ground (that I proudly saw my school friends play at) just turned into a car park.

    I guess something like that is something that is lost to time: Leyton FC is now Walthamstow FC, Clapton CC (formally Hackney Wick) play in Forest Gate, and the nearest thing there is to a phoenix team is that AFC Leyton team (which is basically just a grassroots women's club that is affiliated to London City, not Millwall, Lionesses) who ironically don't have a proper stadium but play off Chingford playing fields.

     


  • Haven't seen it, but presumably they weren't talking about professional sports grounds, and rather amateur/local venues. 

    There's no way there's legislation coming in which will allow owners to sell land/knock down professional sports grounds for development purposes. 
    BBC Report:


    The Guardian Article




    That's such a misguided proposal:

    To remove the need for consultation on whether to build on sports fields from the one body whose purpose is to fight for sports fields!

    Aren't there enough brownfield sites, underused carparks, derelict shopping centres, underused offices, etc on which to build more housing?
  • Solidgone
    Solidgone Posts: 10,271
    ROLAND OUT FOREVER!!!
  • Greenwich lost a battle years ago about building on the old GAA sports ground off Avery Hill Road - that's now a development called Holland Gardens after a planning inspector overruled its objections. 

    There's currently a plan in to build on the STC sports ground in New Eltham, across the other side of Footscray Road: https://benews.co.uk/sigma-submits-plans-for-new-eltham-homes/

    What a planning inspector would think, heaven knows, but I think being in the middle of a lot of uninterrupted green space would probably work in favour of protecting Sparrows Lane, and being metropolitan open land counts for a lot. But it's all hypothetical until someone picks up the phone to the council and says "we have an idea for this land..."

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  • SoundAsaÂŁ
    SoundAsaÂŁ Posts: 22,586
    edited December 24


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  • SoundAsaÂŁ
    SoundAsaÂŁ Posts: 22,586
    edited December 24
    Sword65pf said:
    Rothko said:
    TelMc32 said:
    shirty5 said:

    I didn’t catch the whole of the piece on BBC news this morning but there was some mention of new legislation regarding freeing up playing fields and sports grounds for housing development.
    I wonder will this in any way affect Sparrows Lane. 🫣
    Airman/Prague one for you guys to ponder on maybe?

    Unless Greenwich Council want to once again be the biggest bunch of arseholes they was over 35 years ago then there is nothing to worry about 

    The Labour run council could not be that stupid could they 
    I wonder if they’ll still be in charge after May, but don’t want to think of anyone else who might think alienating our fanbase - again - would be a good idea.
    Well yes and no.
    Surely it depends on what the legislation says…..it may openly allow sales of private sports grounds which were previously protected in one way or another.
    I have no idea…..maybe I am worrying about nothing.🫤
    It’s got nothing to do with the Valley, it’s a change to who gets consulted and Sport Englands ability to veto development 
    I’m reffering to Sparrows Lane, not The Valley.
    If there was the slightest chance of losing sparrows lane to the property market they wouldn’t bother improving the current facility , so I’d say the legal side of things are pretty clued up on all of this. These people at the club aren’t for pissing money up the wall. 
    Ermmmm……..that work was carried out sometime back when there was no suggestion that Sparrows Lane could ever be sold for housing development.
    So, sorry to say, your comment is somewhat irrelevant.