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Loan watch 25/26

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  • 2121
    2121 Posts: 1,265
    Kanu again oh way oh way
  • Braziliance
    Braziliance Posts: 8,446
    As much as I say the gap is too big from League 2 to Championship, Kanu and Mbick couldn't do any worse than TC and Miles 
  • Fanny Fanackapan
    Fanny Fanackapan Posts: 18,804
    edited December 10
    clive said:
    Beat me to it , clive.

    S tkt holding son just text to ask what Pat was like.

    Hope he gets plenty of chances to show what he can do there - believe they also have an injury "crisis".
  • As much as I say the gap is too big from League 2 to Championship, Kanu and Mbick couldn't do any worse than TC and Miles 
    They would. The lack of chances created, decent balls into the box to attack and lack of possession in the final third is the problem. 

    Kanu and mbick would have similar lack of service and should be allowed to develop at L2 where they are both doing very well
  • 2121
    2121 Posts: 1,265
    Yeah its the second third thats the issue ive come to the realisation.
    jones would also know by now (or beginning of this season) if kanu/mbick could do better than leaburn/godden/kelman. 
    Still would recall one
  • SantaClaus
    SantaClaus Posts: 7,705
    It's ironic that If the club lined up a random, 21 year old league 2 striker with Kanu's scoring record most of the fanbase wouldn't be able to contain themselves.
  • NabySarr
    NabySarr Posts: 4,529
    League 2 to championship is a huge jump, very rare that players can do it. Macauley Langstaff scored 42 in the national league, then 28 in league 2, then he jumped straight to the championship where he has 2 goals in 46 appearances so far 
  • EugenesAxe
    EugenesAxe Posts: 3,526
    NabySarr said:
    League 2 to championship is a huge jump, very rare that players can do it. Macauley Langstaff scored 42 in the national league, then 28 in league 2, then he jumped straight to the championship where he has 2 goals in 46 appearances so far 
    and so far Kelman is doing similar from L1
  • Scoham
    Scoham Posts: 37,668
    NabySarr said:
    League 2 to championship is a huge jump, very rare that players can do it. Macauley Langstaff scored 42 in the national league, then 28 in league 2, then he jumped straight to the championship where he has 2 goals in 46 appearances so far 
    True, but Mbick’s only recently turned 19. Langstaff was in non-league at the same age and hadn’t even broken through, never mind scored goals and impressed with his all round game.
  • jose
    jose Posts: 834
    https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=RMr-LwERXTQ

    It is interesting to observe how Kanu has the football intelligence to suss out the promise of a breakaway, and be in the right place to deliver.

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  • fenaddick
    fenaddick Posts: 12,771
    jose said:
    https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=RMr-LwERXTQ

    It is interesting to observe how Kanu has the football intelligence to suss out the promise of a breakaway, and be in the right place to deliver.
    His football IQ is one of his biggest strengths, it’s why he’s such a brilliant presser. We saw that in the Birmingham home game last season 
  • Henry Irving
    Henry Irving Posts: 85,438
    A gift of a backpass but he'd made the run and finished well.

    That's his 10th goal for Warsaw in all competitions
  • Rothko
    Rothko Posts: 18,859
    part (a lot) of the problem since Kelman came off against Swansea, is the press is non-existent from Leaburn, and Dan would be ideal to fill that gap
  • Rothko
    Rothko Posts: 18,859
    the other bit is, we can call Kanu back and then if needs be, say Charlie is fit in January, send Dan back to Walsall for the rest of the season
  • fenaddick
    fenaddick Posts: 12,771
    He’s definitely who I’d recall if we had to recall one of them. I’m still anti the idea in general though 
  • cafc-4-life
    cafc-4-life Posts: 1,324
    A gift of a backpass but he'd made the run and finished well.

    That's his 10th goal for Warsaw in all competitions
    Can't believe he's scored 10 goals for a Polish club and also an English club this season. What a talent! But how is this allowed?
  • Crispywood
    Crispywood Posts: 827
    The question shouldn’t be can Kanu or Mbick make the step up to the championship the question should be would they improve our starting lineup/squad and make us a better side.
    We’re in a relegation battle like it or not this is not the time to think what’s better for the individual it should be what is best for the club. 
    If there’s not enough money in the bank or we need to focus on the defence and we think there’s a chance Mbick or Kanu can improve our odds of survival we have to be willing to take that risk. 
    There is also the option to reloan them back out to the club at the end of the window so the worse that can happen is we disrupt their development for what one month. 
  • LargeAddick
    LargeAddick Posts: 32,914
    And this is one reason why NJ isn’t a fan of loans I’d imagine, especially in the first half of the season. I’d also understand Walsall’s frustration, look how we felt when Gallagher was recalled.
  • Addick Addict
    Addick Addict Posts: 40,374
    And this is one reason why NJ isn’t a fan of loans I’d imagine, especially in the first half of the season. I’d also understand Walsall’s frustration, look how we felt when Gallagher was recalled.
    I think it's happened to Walsall four seasons on the trot. Freddie Draper (10), Danny Johnson (15), Nathan Lowe (18) and now potentially Kanu (10) all Walsall's top scorers when recalled.

    This situation is the polar opposite to that of Zach Mitchell who hasn't played a minute for the Hibs first team. 

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  • killerandflash
    killerandflash Posts: 70,370
    And this is one reason why NJ isn’t a fan of loans I’d imagine, especially in the first half of the season. I’d also understand Walsall’s frustration, look how we felt when Gallagher was recalled.
    I think it's happened to Walsall four seasons on the trot. Freddie Draper (10), Danny Johnson (15), Nathan Lowe (18) and now potentially Kanu (10) all Walsall's top scorers when recalled.

    This situation is the polar opposite to that of Zach Mitchell who hasn't played a minute for the Hibs first team. 
    But they've benefited from having all those goals, scored by players that don't belong to them. They were lucky to get Kanu, as he's too good for L2, and it just needed a run of games to show his quality. I'm sure a few L1 clubs will have wondered how they missed out on him.

    Yes it was a disaster for us when Gallagher was recalled, but without his contributions in the first half of 19/20, we would have had fewer points and been much nearer the bottom 3 in January.

    The question shouldn’t be can Kanu or Mbick make the step up to the championship the question should be would they improve our starting lineup/squad and make us a better side.
    We’re in a relegation battle like it or not this is not the time to think what’s better for the individual it should be what is best for the club. 
    If there’s not enough money in the bank or we need to focus on the defence and we think there’s a chance Mbick or Kanu can improve our odds of survival we have to be willing to take that risk. 
    There is also the option to reloan them back out to the club at the end of the window so the worse that can happen is we disrupt their development for what one month. 
    I'd definitely recall Kanu as soon as we can (the 2nd January I think) as we need extra bodies in straight away, and who better than our own player, someone who will need no settling in period. Our squad when we play Blackburn on the 4th January will definitely look stronger with Kanu in it. And yes we can always send him back to Walsall later in the month.
  • wmcf123
    wmcf123 Posts: 5,857
    And this is one reason why NJ isn’t a fan of loans I’d imagine, especially in the first half of the season. I’d also understand Walsall’s frustration, look how we felt when Gallagher was recalled.
    I think it's happened to Walsall four seasons on the trot. Freddie Draper (10), Danny Johnson (15), Nathan Lowe (18) and now potentially Kanu (10) all Walsall's top scorers when recalled.

    This situation is the polar opposite to that of Zach Mitchell who hasn't played a minute for the Hibs first team. 
    But they've benefited from having all those goals, scored by players that don't belong to them. They were lucky to get Kanu, as he's too good for L2, and it just needed a run of games to show his quality. I'm sure a few L1 clubs will have wondered how they missed out on him.

    Yes it was a disaster for us when Gallagher was recalled, but without his contributions in the first half of 19/20, we would have had fewer points and been much nearer the bottom 3 in January.

    The question shouldn’t be can Kanu or Mbick make the step up to the championship the question should be would they improve our starting lineup/squad and make us a better side.
    We’re in a relegation battle like it or not this is not the time to think what’s better for the individual it should be what is best for the club. 
    If there’s not enough money in the bank or we need to focus on the defence and we think there’s a chance Mbick or Kanu can improve our odds of survival we have to be willing to take that risk. 
    There is also the option to reloan them back out to the club at the end of the window so the worse that can happen is we disrupt their development for what one month. 
    I'd definitely recall Kanu as soon as we can (the 2nd January I think) as we need extra bodies in straight away, and who better than our own player, someone who will need no settling in period. Our squad when we play Blackburn on the 4th January will definitely look stronger with Kanu in it. And yes we can always send him back to Walsall later in the month.
    I don't especially see Kanu as a Championship quality player, but I am not sure any of our other strikers are either. 
  • ateamofcorygibbs
    ateamofcorygibbs Posts: 1,218
    A gift of a backpass but he'd made the run and finished well.

    That's his 10th goal for Warsaw in all competitions
    He's really added some polish to his game this season
  • NabySarr
    NabySarr Posts: 4,529
    The question shouldn’t be can Kanu or Mbick make the step up to the championship the question should be would they improve our starting lineup/squad and make us a better side.
    We’re in a relegation battle like it or not this is not the time to think what’s better for the individual it should be what is best for the club. 
    If there’s not enough money in the bank or we need to focus on the defence and we think there’s a chance Mbick or Kanu can improve our odds of survival we have to be willing to take that risk. 
    There is also the option to reloan them back out to the club at the end of the window so the worse that can happen is we disrupt their development for what one month. 
    At the moment, Kanu would probably be starting games. As for recalling, I think it depends on the injury situation. If Kelman is back before January, then maybe Kanu wouldn’t be coming back and getting in our team and it would be best to leave him there

    Same with Asiimwe, if we had him at the moment he’d be starting most games at wing back. If we still don’t have a LWB fit on January 2nd I’d be recalling him and starting him against Blackburn 
  • Athletico Charlton
    Athletico Charlton Posts: 14,399
    And this is one reason why NJ isn’t a fan of loans I’d imagine, especially in the first half of the season. I’d also understand Walsall’s frustration, look how we felt when Gallagher was recalled.

    We would have been bottom without Gallagher first half of the season though.
    Whilst Walsall would be gutted if he is recalled, I reckon they would still be happy with the loan having given them such a good first half a season.
  • jose
    jose Posts: 834
    Daniel Kanu just turned 21 in November.
    Is he now at the right age to pigeon hole him and write him off, because after all he has already had 20 years to prove himself?
    Personally I think the right thing is to reserve judgement and observe.
    I love it that yet another Academy product is graduating into a credible pro footballer.
  • IdleHans
    IdleHans Posts: 11,086
    Don't bring him back, I've got him for league 2 top scorer at 50/1!