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Players Marks: Stoke City v Charlton Athletic (closes Wednesday teatime)

lancashire lad
lancashire lad Posts: 15,686
edited November 26 in General Charlton

marks 0.5 to 10.0 please:

KAMINSKI:

RAMSAY:

JONES:

GILLESPHEY:

BREE:

COVENTRY:

DOCHERTY:

CAMPBELL:

CAREY:

BERRY:

LEABURN:

Referee:

Subs: KNIBBS:

R-C:

OLAOFE:

Apter: n/a

Anderson: n/a

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  • Jdredsox
    Jdredsox Posts: 537
    edited November 25
    KAMINSKI: 1
    RAMSAY: 5
    JONES: 4.5
    GILLESPHEY: 2
    BREE: 3
    COVENTRY: 6
    DOCHERTY: 5
    CAMPBELL: 4
    CAREY: 5
    BERRY: 5
    LEABURN: 3

    Referee: 7

    Subs: KNIBBS: 5
    R-C: 5
    OLAOFE: 5.5

    Apter: n/a

    Anderson: n/a
  • KAMINSKI: 2 third goal killed us 

    RAMSAY: 6

    JONES: 6

    GILLESPHEY: 5

    BREE: 6

    COVENTRY: 4

    DOCHERTY: 4

    CAMPBELL: 4

    CAREY: 4

    BERRY: 4

    LEABURN: 4

    Referee: 4

    Subs: KNIBBS: 

    R-C: 

    OLAOFE:

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  • MattTeesHeader
    MattTeesHeader Posts: 631
    edited November 25

    KAMINSKI: 4.5

    RAMSAY: 5

    JONES: 5

    GILLESPHEY: 4

    BREE:4

    COVENTRY: 5

    DOCHERTY: 4

    CAMPBELL:4

    CAREY: 5

    BERRY: 4

    LEABURN: 5

    Referee: 4

    Subs: KNIBBS:4

    R-C: 3

    OLAOFE: 4

  • Bedsaddick
    Bedsaddick Posts: 24,917
    edited November 25

    KAMINSKI: 4

    RAMSAY: 6.5

    JONES: 6

    GILLESPHEY: 4

    BREE: 5.5

    COVENTRY: 6

    DOCHERTY: 5.5

    CAMPBELL: 5

    CAREY: 6

    BERRY: 7 MOM

    LEABURN: 5

    Referee: 

    Subs: KNIBBS: 5

    R-C: 4.5

    OLAOFE: 6



  • CafcSteve
    CafcSteve Posts: 782

    KAMINSKI: 2

    RAMSAY: 4

    JONES: 4

    GILLESPHEY: 3

    BREE: 4

    COVENTRY: 3

    DOCHERTY: 3

    CAMPBELL: 4

    CAREY: 5

    BERRY: 4

    LEABURN: 4

    KNIBBS: 4

    R-C: 3

    OLAOFE: 5

  • Crispywood
    Crispywood Posts: 817

    KAMINSKI: 3

    RAMSAY: 6

    JONES: 5

    GILLESPHEY: 3

    BREE: 4

    COVENTRY: 5

    DOCHERTY: 4

    CAMPBELL: 4

    CAREY: 5

    BERRY: 4

    LEABURN: 4

    Referee: 4

    Subs: KNIBBS: 5

    R-C: 5

    OLAOFE: 5

  • Essex_Al
    Essex_Al Posts: 3,589

    KAMINSKI:  4

    RAMSAY:  5.5

    JONES:  6

    GILLESPHEY:  5.5

    BREE:  5.5

    COVENTRY: 6

    DOCHERTY:  5

    CAMPBELL:  4

    CAREY:  5

    BERRY:  5

    LEABURN:  4

    Referee:  4

    Subs: KNIBBS:  4

    R-C:  4

    OLAOFE:  4

  • KAMINSKI: 2.5

    RAMSAY: 3.5

    JONES: 4

    GILLESPHEY: 3.5

    BREE: 3

    COVENTRY: 3

    DOCHERTY: 3

    CAMPBELL: 4

    CAREY: 3.5

    BERRY: 5

    LEABURN: 3

    Referee: 2

    Subs: KNIBBS: 3.5

    R-C: 2

    OLAOFE: 4

  • KAMINSKI: 2

    RAMSAY: 4

    JONES: 5

    GILLESPHEY: 2

    BREE: 3

    COVENTRY: 3

    DOCHERTY: 3

    CAMPBELL: 1

    CAREY: 3

    BERRY: 4

    LEABURN: 4

    Referee: 2

    Subs: KNIBBS: 3

    R-C: 3

    OLAOFE: 5

  • kentred2
    kentred2 Posts: 2,354

    KAMINSKI: 3

    RAMSAY: 6

    JONES: 4

    GILLESPHEY: 4

    BREE: 5

    COVENTRY: 6

    DOCHERTY: 4

    CAMPBELL: 3

    CAREY: 5

    BERRY: 5

    LEABURN: 4

    Referee: 

    Subs: KNIBBS: 4

    R-C: 4

    OLAOFE:4


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  • KAMINSKI: 3 Just dozy for the third goal

    RAMSAY: 6.5 Playing out of position but stuck to his task

    JONES: 6

    GILLESPHEY: 5

    BREE: 4

    COVENTRY: 5

    DOCHERTY: 5

    CAMPBELL: 4 Early shift to the right but still shy of going past his full back

    CAREY: 6

    BERRY: 6.5

    LEABURN: 5

    Referee: 5 Meh first half, better second

    Subs: KNIBBS: 5

    R-C: 4

    OLAOFE: 5

    Apter: n/a

    Anderson: n/a

  • Bailey
    Bailey Posts: 3,347

    KAMINSKI: 6, Not at fault for the first and if Ramsay heads the ball like everyone expected him to, he would not have been involved for the third

    RAMSAY:4, Two games, twice ducking out of headers, why is anyone's guess

    JONES: 6, Probably the best of the three

    GILLESPHEY:5, Exposed by almost playing full back against a lightening quick winger

    BREE:5, Still looks unfit

    COVENTRY: 5, Same as Saturday, overun

    DOCHERTY:5, As above

    CAMPBELL:5, Need him back up front when Kelman returns

    CAREY: 5, Has really suffered these last few weeks 

    BERRY:6, Tried but we gave the ball away too may times for him to have an impact

    LEABURN: 7, MOM, He run his heart out with little or no support

    Referee:4, Got conned for the second and was erratic throughout

    Subs: KNIBBS: 5, He was ok in a game that ended well before he arrived 

    R-C:, 5, Looks unfit and unhappy

    OLAOFE: 5, Should have shot when passing inside the box, nobody would have blamed him

    Apter: n/a Didn't see much of him 

    Anderson: n/a Baffles me that when we need energy in the midfield, he's been ignored. 

  • Garrymanilow
    Garrymanilow Posts: 13,371

    KAMINSKI: 4 - First goal was unavoidable but third was a real cock-up and killed the game

    RAMSAY: 5 - Where is the old Kayne Ramsay? didn't help Kaminski jumping in front of the third and generally looks scared and rubbish. Was better at LB 

    JONES: 5 - So soft for their first goal and looked spooked all game 

    GILLESPHEY:4.5 - Just too slow to cover that left side without serious support. Give him hamstrings to Amari'i Bell

    BREE: 4 - Really bad. Gave the ball away so many times 

    COVENTRY: 5 - Seems to be missing in the defensive phase at the moment

    DOCHERTY: 4 - Absent

    CAMPBELL: 5 - Didn't want to run at anyone first half, looked better when he did second.

    CAREY:5 - Best of the usual midfielders but that's no compliment

    BERRY: 6 - MOTM I guess? Ran at people, tried to be positive, had some shots

    LEABURN: 4.5 - Not great, directed his headers poorly. One shot 

    Referee: 5 - In a game where he had nothing to do he still wasted everyone's time with some very soft calls

    Subs: KNIBBS: 3 - He scored that goal against Watford and I genuinely am yet to see him do a single good thing since. 

    R-C: 4 - There's a future where he's a solid right back for us but a dynamic midfielder he is not

    OLAOFE: 5 - One run where he should have shot but gave it away instead

    Apter: n/a 5 - Given a chance in an attacking role, decided not to bother

    Anderson: n/a 6 - At least some Stoke players will have some bruises thanks to him



  • RonnieMoore
    RonnieMoore Posts: 4,607

    KAMINSKI: 6  


    RAMSAY: 4 gone right off since Millwall game at fault for third goal 

    JONES: 6 not his commanding self . Was clearly fouled for the second goal 

    GILLESPHEY: 6 not a left back stop putting him there 

    BREE: 4 another poor game from Bree 

    COVENTRY: 6 tired but overrun no defending from the front 


    DOCHERTY: 6 same tired but overrun no defending from the front 

    CAMPBELL: 2 throught Saturday was bad tonight one cross and took till 25 min before he touched the ball .. 

    CAREY: 3 again really struggled .. not helped by no movement up front and gaps to run into 

    BERRY: 7 think he was our best player 

    LEABURN: 2 like Campbell should not have started after Saturday , no pressing does not hold the ball up which puts pressure on our mid and defence 

    Referee: 3 very poor .. missed the foul on Jones which led to the second goal 

    Subs: KNIBBS: 5 should start Saturday 

    R-C:5 tidy 

    OLAOFE 6 should start Saturday 

    Apter 5 should start Saturday 

  • Cafctekkers
    Cafctekkers Posts: 1,259
    KAMINSKI: 5

    RAMSAY: 6

    JONES: 5

    GILLESPHEY: 3

    BREE: 4

    COVENTRY: 5

    DOCHERTY: 3

    CAMPBELL: 3

    CAREY: 5

    BERRY: 4

    LEABURN: 3

    Referee: 4

    Subs: KNIBBS: 3

    R-C: 2

    OLAOFE: 4

    Apter: n/a

    Anderson: n/a
  • newyorkaddick
    newyorkaddick Posts: 3,056

    KAMINSKI: 4

    RAMSAY: 5

    JONES: 6

    GILLESPHEY: 3

    BREE: 4

    COVENTRY: 5

    DOCHERTY: 4

    CAMPBELL: 4

    CAREY: 5

    BERRY: 4

    LEABURN: 3

    Referee: 6

    Subs: KNIBBS: 4

    R-C: 4

    OLAOFE: 4

  • Talal
    Talal Posts: 11,551
    KAMINSKI: 4
    RAMSAY: 5
    JONES: 5
    GILLESPHEY: 4
    BREE: 4
    COVENTRY: 5
    DOCHERTY: 5
    CAMPBELL: 4
    CAREY: 5
    BERRY: 5
    LEABURN: 5
    Subs: KNIBBS: 4
    R-C: 4
    OLAOFE: 5
  • RedChaser
    RedChaser Posts: 19,897
    edited November 25

    KAMINSKI: 2 gifted them 2 presents 

    RAMSAY: 5.5 better than Sat did ok at LB 2nd half, needs to start there v Coventry

    JONES: 5.5 Got brushed off the ball for their 2nd

    GILLESPHEY: 4.5 got roasted again early doors at LB better when moved central but a lot of aimless balls forward 

    BREE: 4.5 Two goals came down his side from Thomas although main fault lies with goalie 

    COVENTRY: 4.5 off the pace and early booking didn’t help

    DOCHERTY: 3 missing in action again 

    CAMPBELL: 4.5 no forward intent first half better second period and kept trying 

    CAREY: 5 best of a poor midfield 

    BERRY: 5 one decent effort 2nd half otherwise a bit of a luxury

    LEABURN: 5.5 worked hard and managed our first shot on target with back to goal

    Referee: 3 poor

    Subs: KNIBBS: 5 showed a bit more desire

    R-C: 4 running in treacle again

    OLAOFE: 4 poor final ball in good situations

  • Pavoren007
    Pavoren007 Posts: 2,547

    KAMINSKI: 3

    RAMSAY: 4

    JONES: 5

    GILLESPHEY: 3

    BREE: 4

    COVENTRY: 4

    DOCHERTY: 3

    CAMPBELL: 4

    CAREY: 3

    BERRY: 4

    LEABURN: 5

    Referee: 3

    Subs: KNIBBS: 3

    R-C: 3

    OLAOFE: 3

    Apter: n/a

    Anderson: n/a 

  • Rob7Lee
    Rob7Lee Posts: 9,772

    KAMINSKI: 3.5

    RAMSAY: 5

    JONES: 5

    GILLESPHEY: 4

    BREE:4

    COVENTRY: 5

    DOCHERTY: 4

    CAMPBELL:4

    CAREY: 4

    BERRY: 5

    LEABURN: 5

    Referee: 4

    Subs: KNIBBS:4

    R-C: 3

    OLAOFE: 4


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  • stop_shouting
    stop_shouting Posts: 3,697

    KAMINSKI: 2. Seemed to get a pass for the first goal on the comms but looked like he could have made more of an effort 

    RAMSAY: 5

    JONES: 5

    GILLESPHEY: 4

    BREE: 3

    COVENTRY: 6

    DOCHERTY: 4

    CAMPBELL: 2 - enough 

    CAREY: 4

    BERRY: 3

    LEABURN: 5

    Referee: 4

    Subs: KNIBBS: 4

    R-C: 4

    OLAOFE: 4


  • Nicholas
    Nicholas Posts: 7,662

    KAMINSKI: 3

    RAMSAY: 4

    JONES: 4

    GILLESPHEY: 2

    BREE: 3

    COVENTRY:4

    DOCHERTY: 2 Has looked lost for a while now

    CAMPBELL: 2 Shocking again, best performence this season when he came off the bench against Ipswich, has offered nothing for a while.

    CAREY: 3 Like Doc been struggling for a while.

    BERRY: 3

    LEABURN: 4 Was lost up there on his own today, no support, no service. 

    Referee: 1 Cock of a ref

    Subs: KNIBBS:3 Not sure what he brings but that's probably harsh as he has not been given much time.

    R-C: 2 Same as Knibbs

    OLAOFE: 3 Looks a handful in the little snippets we have seen but not sure he looks championship level

  • cafcsinger
    cafcsinger Posts: 5,598

    KAMINSKI: 1

    RAMSAY: 5

    JONES: 4

    GILLESPHEY: 3

    BREE: 2

    COVENTRY: 4

    DOCHERTY: 4

    CAMPBELL: 4

    CAREY: 5

    BERRY: 5

    LEABURN:4

    Referee: 5

    Subs: KNIBBS: 4

    R-C: 2

    OLAOFE: 5

  • CafcWest
    CafcWest Posts: 6,217

    KAMINSKI: 4

    RAMSAY: 6

    JONES: 6

    GILLESPHEY: 4.5

    BREE: 5.5

    COVENTRY: 6

    DOCHERTY: 5.5

    CAMPBELL: 5.5

    CAREY: 6

    BERRY: 7 

    LEABURN: 6

    Referee: 6

    Subs: KNIBBS: 5

    R-C: 4.5

    OLAOFE: 6

  • KAMINSKI: 2 Yikes

    RAMSAY: 5

    JONES: 5

    GILLESPHEY: 3 as much as he has put shifts in, he can’t start in the champ

    BREE: 3

    COVENTRY: 4

    DOCHERTY: 3

    CAMPBELL: 3 think he needs to be dropped and come off the bench last 20/30

    CAREY: 4

    BERRY: 5.5

    LEABURN: 5

    Referee: 5

    Subs: KNIBBS: 3

    R-C: 3 I put on the match thread, I don’t think I’ve seen him have a good first touch 

    OLAOFE: 5 put himself about

    Apter: n/a

    Anderson: n/a

  • killerandflash
    killerandflash Posts: 70,286
    KAMINSKI: 4
    RAMSAY: 5.5
    JONES: 5
    GILLESPHEY: 4 
    BREE: 4.5
    COVENTRY: 4.5
    DOCHERTY: 4
    CAMPBELL: 4
    CAREY: 4.5
    BERRY: 4.5
    LEABURN: 5
    Referee: 4
    Subs: KNIBBS: 3.5
    R-C: 3.5
    OLAOFE: 5
  • RugbyAddick
    RugbyAddick Posts: 2,088

    KAMINSKI: 3.5 first was a fluke. Second was at his near post. Third was pathetic  

    RAMSAY: 4 thought he done OK out of possession. Passing poor though

    JONES: 3.5 too weak for the second. Weak all game. Misplaced passes. Uncharacteristically had a stinker

    GILLESPHEY: 3.5 didn’t look up for it

    BREE: 3.5 not fit. Didn’t look up for it. Set pieces rubbish

    COVENTRY: 5 our midfield was overrun and he was having to cover the defence a lot who seemed out of position most of the time 

    DOCHERTY: 5 same as Cov

    CAMPBELL: 3 non existent first half. Scared to take players on. Thought he would look better this season as teams would give him more room. I was wrong

    CAREY: 5.5 only player who looked up for it second half. Only player to actually try and get us moving forward

    BERRY: 5 March sharpness isn’t there

    LEABURN: 4.5 again, unfortunately, I don’t think he’s good enough at the moment 

    Referee: 4 thought he was poor. Booked Berry for stopping the goal kick, then a minute later their man does the same as no booking

    Subs: KNIBBS: 4 not what was needed

    R-C: 4 not what was needed. Looked lightweight. Didn’t look interested and who can blame him… can’t even get a start after a 5-1 home battering

    OLAOFE: 4 was no improvement on what was already on the pitch

    Apter: n/a

    Anderson: n/a looked up for it 



    Two games don’t define a season, but I’m having flashbacks to the last time we were in the Championship, and the wheels fell off around this point in that season. 

  • vff
    vff Posts: 6,914
    edited November 25

    KAMINSKI: 3.5 - really poor third goal to concede that killed any remote chance of a result 

    RAMSAY: 6 - Steadied the defence on the left

    JONES: 6 -  pulled out of position

    GILLESPHEY: 3.5 - Should never be exposed be on the left side of defence without protection. 

    BREE: 5.5

    COVENTRY: 5.5

    DOCHERTY: 5

    CAMPBELL: 6

    CAREY: 5 

    BERRY: 6

    LEABURN: 5 - better later on but game was over by then.

    Referee: 4 - another arse of a referee

    Subs: KNIBBS: 5 

    R-C: 5.5 - better than on Saturday

    OLAOFE:5 - tried to play forward but passes didn't reach Charlton players.

    Jones - Poor team set up again. Playing Gillesephy on left side of defence without protection is poor.

  • jose
    jose Posts: 806

    KAMINSKI: 4

    RAMSAY: 5.5

    JONES: 5

    GILLESPHEY: 5

    BREE: 4.5

    COVENTRY: 5

    DOCHERTY: 4.5

    CAMPBELL: 5

    CAREY: 5

    BERRY: 5

    LEABURN: 5

    Referee: 6

    Subs: KNIBBS: 5

    R-C: 5

    OLAOFE: 5

  • mattwils
    mattwils Posts: 218

    KAMINSKI: 3

    RAMSAY: 4.5

    JONES: 5

    GILLESPHEY: 4

    BREE: 5

    COVENTRY: 4

    DOCHERTY: 4

    CAMPBELL: 4

    CAREY: 5

    BERRY: 5

    LEABURN: 5

    Referee: 7 mom 

    Subs: KNIBBS: 5.5

    R-C: 5

    OLAOFE: 5.5