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Daniel Kanu - season long loan to Walsall (p21)
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Your gift was probably just a month, might have run out? Any articles from Richard will be emailed to you so you can just read them in your inbox, nice and simplejose said:I was gifted a sub stack and joined.
But trying to read the article was impossible because it said you needed a paid subscription.
Eh?
The sub stack world seems confusing and impossible for me to navigate, for example there was a piece about buying groceries in America.
Sorry Richard, I rate you but until access is simplified I won’t be reading you.0 -
Yes it was a month, which I got this week.fenaddick said:
Your gift was probably just a month, might have run out? Any articles from Richard will be emailed to you so you can just read them in your inbox, nice and simplejose said:I was gifted a sub stack and joined.
But trying to read the article was impossible because it said you needed a paid subscription.
Eh?
The sub stack world seems confusing and impossible for me to navigate, for example there was a piece about buying groceries in America.
Sorry Richard, I rate you but until access is simplified I won’t be reading you.
I have tried to use the gift but gave up, I was even sent a verification code, put the numbers in little circular windows, but then it asked for a paid subscription.
At that point I have given up, but the whole sub stack site looks to me like a hugely American focused ball of confusion.
I am the wrong generation for this sort of thing.0 -
Kanu is just one behind Cheek and three behind the divisional top scorer, with only thee players ahead of him.Addick Addict said:
In which case it's still a bit of a head scratcher as it why he remains do under the bookies' radar. Only BetVictor have re-priced their book but they have him now at 25/1 (1/4 odds 1-4). They have Cheek at 3/1.fenaddick said:
Yes it’s possible he comes back here but it’s unlikely. It’s what Walsall fans are concerned about after what happened with Stoke last yearAddick Addict said:I want him to see out the season because I think that it will do him so much good in the way it did Grant at Crawley (but also, selfishly, for the bets I've had on him).
Is there one scenario, though, where he could leave Walsall in January? One where at the turn of the year we are struggling to find the net and/or Godden and another striker is out injured and we feel we need him to become part of our match day squad. He also offers us something a bit different to the others we have on the books. Clarification re the possibility of that happening would be handy.
Cheek's record at that level is there for all to see. However, at the same stage, after Walsall's 9th league games last season Nathan Lowe had 2 goals whereas Cheek had 6 goals. Cheek would probably have been 3/1 again and Lowe probably 50/1 - Cheek finished with 25 goals whereas at the time Lowe left, following Walsall's game on 11th January, he had 15 goals in 22 games with Walsall still having another 22 matches to play.
There are a couple of advantages that Kanu has over Lowe too. Kanu is a year older and has more experience of playing and scoring goals whereas Lowe had just 2 league goals to his name when he arrived at Walsall last season.
Weight of money does also have a factor but the fact remains that Kanu is a single goal behind Cheek and is more than 8 times the price. If you had £20 at 3/1 on Cheek and £10 EW at 25/1 on Kanu, you will get almost as good a return for Kanu finishing 4th as you will for Cheek winning it. Betting is all about doing so at the right price and recognising when the traders have it wrong. They don't do it often and will rarely do so on a Premier League market because so much information is out there. The lower you go, the less they know. I have already been in twice at 50/1 but will wait to see what the others now offer once they've re-opened their books.2 -
I said last year he was ahead of Leaburn and I still stand by that1
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If Kanu came back he’d probably compete with TC.Radostanradical said:I said last year he was ahead of Leaburn and I still stand by that
If Mbick comes back he’d be competing for the main striker spot.2 -
We know how shit league 1 is, imagine how shit league 2 is. Both Kanu and Mbick should be left exactly where they areRadostanradical said:I said last year he was ahead of Leaburn and I still stand by that
If Leaburn was in league 2 he’d be the best striker in the league by far. He was in league 1 at one point for a short period last season when he hit form and won player of the month. Kanu has never shown that level of performance even in league 2. The championship is just way way tougher than both league 1 and league 2
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What possible evidence could you have to say Leaburn would be the player in league 2? Awards are just peoples opinions, he had a few food games and got player of the month apart from that he was pretty average.NabySarr said:
We know how shit league 1 is, imagine how shit league 2 is. Both Kanu and Mbick should be left exactly where they areRadostanradical said:I said last year he was ahead of Leaburn and I still stand by that
If Leaburn was in league 2 he’d be the best striker in the league by far. He was in league 1 at one point for a short period last season when he hit form and won player of the month. Kanu has never shown that level of performance even in league 2. The championship is just way way tougher than both league 1 and league 2
He looked decent as a young man just coming in to the team but he has had some injuries which im sure dont help and he looks apprehensive now.0 -
Should be absolutely no chance of recalling either Kanu or Mbick just because they look good in League 2 bullying carthorse CBs that can't handle pace. Give them the whole season , let them score 15+ and see where they are at next season. I've still got faith in Miles working out , just needs to get a full season in without injuries.NabySarr said:
We know how shit league 1 is, imagine how shit league 2 is. Both Kanu and Mbick should be left exactly where they areRadostanradical said:I said last year he was ahead of Leaburn and I still stand by that
If Leaburn was in league 2 he’d be the best striker in the league by far. He was in league 1 at one point for a short period last season when he hit form and won player of the month. Kanu has never shown that level of performance even in league 2. The championship is just way way tougher than both league 1 and league 22 -
Well Kanu and Mbick are 2 of the best and I think Leaburn is still better than them. Don’t think that’s a controversial view at allRadostanradical said:
What possible evidence could you have to say Leaburn would be the player in league 2? Awards are just peoples opinions, he had a few food games and got player of the month apart from that he was pretty average.NabySarr said:
We know how shit league 1 is, imagine how shit league 2 is. Both Kanu and Mbick should be left exactly where they areRadostanradical said:I said last year he was ahead of Leaburn and I still stand by that
If Leaburn was in league 2 he’d be the best striker in the league by far. He was in league 1 at one point for a short period last season when he hit form and won player of the month. Kanu has never shown that level of performance even in league 2. The championship is just way way tougher than both league 1 and league 2
He looked decent as a young man just coming in to the team but he has had some injuries which im sure dont help and he looks apprehensive now.
Anytime Leaburn stayed fit and got a good run of games in league 1 he was pretty good. The problem was the constant injuries and then getting back up to speed. He's a good striker for that level and would be way too good for league 2
Even this season against Stevenage in the cup, Leaburn looked a level above and they are top 2 in league 11 -
Rumarn Burell scored 11 in L1 last season for burton last season, year before was playing Scottish League 1 which is probably equivalent of L2/NL and he’s currently on more goal contributions than Oloafe/Leaburn/Kelman/TC this year combined.Can’t rule out there is a chance Kanu and Mbick could offer more than what our current frontline offer and definitely have attributes that suit a Nathan Jones system0
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You’re leaning on the Stevenage game like it’s a thesis; it wasn’t — it was a highlight reel. Yes, Leaburn looked excellent that day and yes, he’s shown he can be a handful when fully fit. That’s the entire point: when fully fit. Availability is not a footnote in squad building — it’s the headline. A striker who can’t string together League One minutes is a luxury, not a solution.NabySarr said:
Well Kanu and Mbick are 2 of the best and I think Leaburn is still better than them. Don’t think that’s a controversial view at allRadostanradical said:
What possible evidence could you have to say Leaburn would be the player in league 2? Awards are just peoples opinions, he had a few food games and got player of the month apart from that he was pretty average.NabySarr said:
We know how shit league 1 is, imagine how shit league 2 is. Both Kanu and Mbick should be left exactly where they areRadostanradical said:I said last year he was ahead of Leaburn and I still stand by that
If Leaburn was in league 2 he’d be the best striker in the league by far. He was in league 1 at one point for a short period last season when he hit form and won player of the month. Kanu has never shown that level of performance even in league 2. The championship is just way way tougher than both league 1 and league 2
He looked decent as a young man just coming in to the team but he has had some injuries which im sure dont help and he looks apprehensive now.
Anytime Leaburn stayed fit and got a good run of games in league 1 he was pretty good. The problem was the constant injuries and then getting back up to speed. He's a good striker for that level and would be way too good for league 2
Even this season against Stevenage in the cup, Leaburn looked a level above and they are top 2 in league 1You admit the injury problem yourself. That’s not an aesthetic criticism, it’s a practical one. Managers don’t pick players for Instagram moments; they pick them for 90 minutes on Tuesday and Saturday. Kanu and Mbick have offered sustained minutes, loan returns and goal contributions that managers can plan around.Finally, claiming “he’d be way too good for League Two” is cute but speculative.0
