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Micah Mbick - called up to the England U20s (p7)
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So why even mention a price then?Callumcafc said:At this point if a Premier League team wants him as a lottery ticket we should be asking for minimum £5m and a chunky sell on.
Just no need to even consider selling him at this point.
Honestly, people do it all the time. Seem to know the price of everything and the value of nothing.5 -
shirty5 said:Called up for the England Under 20’s for their friendly v Japan next Friday at DoncasterFeel for Mbick here, of all the places to play they choose Doncaster.3
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You're thinking of Paul Mortimore and he was a fullback 😜LenGlover said:
That was for his second spell.LargeAddick said:
Mortimer came in from Palace.jimmymelrose said:If we’re not signing another forward this summer then this means that NJ sees his progress in training as good enough to make league appearances. Players his age can make huge strides in short periods. Maybe we’ve been stuck in League One so long to forget that we once had young players stepping up to making regular appearances in even the top division.
I long for the days when for example Scott Minto came in from nowhere, looked so classy that Chelsea signed him, and so we just simply seemlessly brought in Anthony Barness.
Then there’s Lee, Stuart, Mortimer, Bennett, Konchesky and more recently Doughty (and loads of others) who broke into the 1st team at a young age and fitted in immediately. Why not Mbick or anyone else?
He had been at Fulham and was working in a bookshop when he came to us first.
Anyway this thread is not about Paul Mortimer.
Congratulations to Micah on selection for England Under 20s.3 -
Nice little ground that should be easy to fill for this match and, as we proved in the play off game, you can create a decent atmosphere.fenlandaddick said:shirty5 said:Called up for the England Under 20’s for their friendly v Japan next Friday at DoncasterFeel for Mbick here, of all the places to play they choose Doncaster.0 -
What’s that supposed to mean in this context? LolOff_it said:
So why even mention a price then?Callumcafc said:At this point if a Premier League team wants him as a lottery ticket we should be asking for minimum £5m and a chunky sell on.
Just no need to even consider selling him at this point.
Honestly, people do it all the time. Seem to know the price of everything and the value of nothing.
If you were in charge of Charlton, there’s a number you’d accept for him too. As is the case for any of our players.2 -
It’s also his birthday today so happy birthday Micah.4
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FFS😡Crispywood said:Curious to know what the price tag would be for him if a bigger club came calling considering he’s just turning 19 and proving he can manage L2 with ease1 -
No. Not necessarily. You’ve been in the States too long😉Callumcafc said:
What’s that supposed to mean in this context? LolOff_it said:
So why even mention a price then?Callumcafc said:At this point if a Premier League team wants him as a lottery ticket we should be asking for minimum £5m and a chunky sell on.
Just no need to even consider selling him at this point.
Honestly, people do it all the time. Seem to know the price of everything and the value of nothing.
If you were in charge of Charlton, there’s a number you’d accept for him too. As is the case for any of our players.
BTW Callum, as one of the few on here who actually study these things, was I not right to say that Sunderland did not sell a talented young player to fund their push to get out of the Championship? I’ve done my best to track their ins and outs - probably the biggest challenge I’ve ever set an AI platform, judging by the multiple mistakes, and I didnt see one. On the contrary, seems that Sunderland invested in several young players.
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Well they flogged Jack Clarke to Ipswich for a big fee but I don’t know if that was to fund a promotion push.PragueAddick said:
No. Not necessarily. You’ve been in the States too long😉Callumcafc said:
What’s that supposed to mean in this context? LolOff_it said:
So why even mention a price then?Callumcafc said:At this point if a Premier League team wants him as a lottery ticket we should be asking for minimum £5m and a chunky sell on.
Just no need to even consider selling him at this point.
Honestly, people do it all the time. Seem to know the price of everything and the value of nothing.
If you were in charge of Charlton, there’s a number you’d accept for him too. As is the case for any of our players.
BTW Callum, as one of the few on here who actually study these things, was I not right to say that Sunderland did not sell a talented young player to fund their push to get out of the Championship? I’ve done my best to track their ins and outs - probably the biggest challenge I’ve ever set an AI platform, judging by the multiple mistakes, and I didnt see one. On the contrary, seems that Sunderland invested in several young players.0 -
Taking 5 million would be thinking like a League One club. That's a squad-changing amount of money down there. It's not gonna get us much up here, and it's practically small change to the clubs who would be in a position to poach him anyway.
If he keeps progressing and one day proves himself a very good player at this level, his value would rocket. Unless the club's desperate for money, selling now would be cashing in too early, and for minimal benefit to the squad.
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Seems Mbick played as a 10 yesterday with Tovide ahead of him as the main striker and it didn’t work well.
Mbick interview on their defeat yesterday:
https://www.bbc.co.uk/sounds/play/p0mfjkxh
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This is the one big money outgoing I could find in the two sets of windows before this summer. But when you look at the list of players they brought in they were. a load of young players - actually younger than Clarke - including Jobe Bellingham, and Romaine Mundle. And Clarke himself was not one of their own, they got him from . Spurs who received an add-on fee. If we talk about sell-to-fund examples his case would be more equivalent to selling Carey, rather than Mbick or Fuller. But anyway if you compare the oft- quoted example of selling Jenkinson to get in mainly seasoned pros, it looks nothing like that at Sunderland. They have serious people funding the club, not a dodgy English property developer.LargeAddick said:
Well they flogged Jack Clarke to Ipswich for a big fee but I don’t know if that was to fund a promotion push.PragueAddick said:
No. Not necessarily. You’ve been in the States too long😉Callumcafc said:
What’s that supposed to mean in this context? LolOff_it said:
So why even mention a price then?Callumcafc said:At this point if a Premier League team wants him as a lottery ticket we should be asking for minimum £5m and a chunky sell on.
Just no need to even consider selling him at this point.
Honestly, people do it all the time. Seem to know the price of everything and the value of nothing.
If you were in charge of Charlton, there’s a number you’d accept for him too. As is the case for any of our players.
BTW Callum, as one of the few on here who actually study these things, was I not right to say that Sunderland did not sell a talented young player to fund their push to get out of the Championship? I’ve done my best to track their ins and outs - probably the biggest challenge I’ve ever set an AI platform, judging by the multiple mistakes, and I didnt see one. On the contrary, seems that Sunderland invested in several young players.
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Watched some of this yesterday. Mediocre performance overall perhaps by the Colchester team. losing to two quick Bromley goals, but they do seem to have such a well balanced team, back to front, moving the ball nicely in the bits i saw.Scoham said:Seems Mbick played as a 10 yesterday with Tovide ahead of him as the main striker and it didn’t work well.
Mbick interview on their defeat yesterday:
https://www.bbc.co.uk/sounds/play/p0mfjkxh0 -
Pretty sure Colchester are a bit injury depleted, including losing Payne who is important for them0
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I wasn’t arguing, I was just answering the question. They also sold Watson to Brighton for 10m.PragueAddick said:
This is the one big money outgoing I could find in the two sets of windows before this summer. But when you look at the list of players they brought in they were. a load of young players - actually younger than Clarke - including Jobe Bellingham, and Romaine Mundle. And Clarke himself was not one of their own, they got him from . Spurs who received an add-on fee. If we talk about sell-to-fund examples his case would be more equivalent to selling Carey, rather than Mbick or Fuller. But anyway if you compare the oft- quoted example of selling Jenkinson to get in mainly seasoned pros, it looks nothing like that at Sunderland. They have serious people funding the club, not a dodgy English property developer.LargeAddick said:
Well they flogged Jack Clarke to Ipswich for a big fee but I don’t know if that was to fund a promotion push.PragueAddick said:
No. Not necessarily. You’ve been in the States too long😉Callumcafc said:
What’s that supposed to mean in this context? LolOff_it said:
So why even mention a price then?Callumcafc said:At this point if a Premier League team wants him as a lottery ticket we should be asking for minimum £5m and a chunky sell on.
Just no need to even consider selling him at this point.
Honestly, people do it all the time. Seem to know the price of everything and the value of nothing.
If you were in charge of Charlton, there’s a number you’d accept for him too. As is the case for any of our players.
BTW Callum, as one of the few on here who actually study these things, was I not right to say that Sunderland did not sell a talented young player to fund their push to get out of the Championship? I’ve done my best to track their ins and outs - probably the biggest challenge I’ve ever set an AI platform, judging by the multiple mistakes, and I didnt see one. On the contrary, seems that Sunderland invested in several young players.1 -
And I wasn't arguing with you! I'm just trying to point out that it looks a far different strategy to the Carl Jenkinson one. But I have to point out that they sold Watson in this summer's window, after he had helped them gain promotion. He scored the winning goal that took them up! (it says here...)LargeAddick said:
I wasn’t arguing, I was just answering the question. They also sold Watson to Brighton for 10m.PragueAddick said:
This is the one big money outgoing I could find in the two sets of windows before this summer. But when you look at the list of players they brought in they were. a load of young players - actually younger than Clarke - including Jobe Bellingham, and Romaine Mundle. And Clarke himself was not one of their own, they got him from . Spurs who received an add-on fee. If we talk about sell-to-fund examples his case would be more equivalent to selling Carey, rather than Mbick or Fuller. But anyway if you compare the oft- quoted example of selling Jenkinson to get in mainly seasoned pros, it looks nothing like that at Sunderland. They have serious people funding the club, not a dodgy English property developer.LargeAddick said:
Well they flogged Jack Clarke to Ipswich for a big fee but I don’t know if that was to fund a promotion push.PragueAddick said:
No. Not necessarily. You’ve been in the States too long😉Callumcafc said:
What’s that supposed to mean in this context? LolOff_it said:
So why even mention a price then?Callumcafc said:At this point if a Premier League team wants him as a lottery ticket we should be asking for minimum £5m and a chunky sell on.
Just no need to even consider selling him at this point.
Honestly, people do it all the time. Seem to know the price of everything and the value of nothing.
If you were in charge of Charlton, there’s a number you’d accept for him too. As is the case for any of our players.
BTW Callum, as one of the few on here who actually study these things, was I not right to say that Sunderland did not sell a talented young player to fund their push to get out of the Championship? I’ve done my best to track their ins and outs - probably the biggest challenge I’ve ever set an AI platform, judging by the multiple mistakes, and I didnt see one. On the contrary, seems that Sunderland invested in several young players.
EDIT: this article (which is a local source) indicates some parallels to Ibby Fullah and the lunatic idea that he could be sold this coming window (although I think his showing on Saturday has put paid to that nonsense anyway)0 -
A reminder that England U20's play Japan in Doncaster at 7:30pm3
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Ok, thanks.0
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What's their ground like for drainage ? With all this rain around could it be postponed ?fenaddick said:A reminder that England U20's play Japan in Doncaster at 7:30pm0 -
Memoriesgolfaddick said:
What's their ground like for drainage ? With all this rain around could it be postponed ?fenaddick said:A reminder that England U20's play Japan in Doncaster at 7:30pm
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Is there one of Jacko pouring water from his bottle onto the pitch 😂... classicScoham said:
Memoriesgolfaddick said:
What's their ground like for drainage ? With all this rain around could it be postponed ?fenaddick said:A reminder that England U20's play Japan in Doncaster at 7:30pm5 -
Radio coverage only by the looks of itjose said:
Do you know whether it will be shown on YouTube?fenaddick said:A reminder that England U20's play Japan in Doncaster at 7:30pm
https://x.com/EnglandAcad/status/1989057463501615199?t=qtDp9hsGzefBEBUVsXwlmQ&s=192 -
Feels almost impossible to find a line up for this game that starts in under 30 minutes 🤦1
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The radio coverage is happening, I don't know the teams, it is the Japanese National Anthem at the moment.0
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Micah on the bench3 -
M'bick is a sub.0
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Yeah sorry about that.2
