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  • CAFCTrev
    CAFCTrev Posts: 6,032
    edited November 12
    If theres one thing away games tell you it's that just because someone supports Charlton it doesn't mean you'll have anything else in common with them, or even want to like them as a person. 
  • BJW
    BJW Posts: 74
    CAFCTrev said:
    If theres one thing away games tell you it's that just because someone supports Charlton it doesn't mean you'll have anything else in common with them, or even want to like them as a person. 
    Absolutely right. I often wonder why I associate myself with some of you.. 
  • Belv
    Belv Posts: 839
    Croydon said:
    Croydon said:
    It's an unwritten rule within it's self that you stand at away games - I think it adds to the atmosphere which makes away days so special.

    I do appreciate your situation though and I guess the best solution would be to buy tickets within the disabled area so you can comfortably watch the game and people can also stand.
    If you wanna stand, go find a ground with a terrace. I don't wanna book a space in the disabled bit and take away from someone who needs it. Thankfully for Coventry I've got decent seats and I've only got Swansea to worry about but I should be better by then.
    Fucking hell.
    Oh, I'm sorry for wanting a nice normal day of watching without having any jumped up dickheads around me. Would it be acceptable to twat them around the head with my crutches?
    You seem like a patronising prat who's only just discovered football away days, and if you're taking the tone you have on this thread into real life then I'm not surprised people aren't willing to accommodate you when you can't see at the match.

    Saying things like "if you wanna stand, go find a ground with a terrace" when you're in the minority of away travellers is as helpful as me telling you to stay at home because you want to sit.
    Been going since 2009! It wasn't a problem then, but now it is. There's definitely been a shift in the way people act since then, used to be nice, now it's calling everyone a c*nt and looking for fights when someone doesn't agree with you.
    I'm sure had you asked those in Row A to swap places with you so you could sit, I'm sure they would have been happy to, that way everyone is happy.
  • Belv
    Belv Posts: 839
    edited November 12

    What's happened to it? People in Row A standing, which caused a chain reaction, which meant me in Row C with crutches couldn't see and am unable to stand for long periods. Got abuse when I asked the two rows infront to sit down. You pay for a seat not a terrace spot ffs. In the end I moved to a couple of free seats in the disabled section. Makes me wonder why I'm even gonna bother with Coventry.

    Also, a lack of seat belt wearing on Coach 1. Pretty sure it was only me and the wife wearing them. I did take comfort knowing we'd be the only ones to make it out alive if anything did happen.

    This comparison to standing at matches and seatbelts on transport is an interesting one.

    Those not wearing seatbelts have obviously never found themselves hanging upside down in a crashed car like me. I'm astounded at their naivity as a result of my experiences.

    I always question why seatbelts are not on trains. It makes no sense to me how standing on trains is allowed. 

    In both the case of football and transport, if you pay for seat, you are entitled to a seat.
    If a coach or train crashes and rolls over, there's very little a seatbelt is going to do to help you. 
  • Chippycafc
    Chippycafc Posts: 14,188
    Sadly we have a lot of dick head fans  that follow our club. Even at home games some pricks dont seem to know the difference between entry and exit to the toilets.

    Its annoying when you purchase your seat in a row and spot of your choice only to find some drugged up knob sitting in it. 

    And to those twats who fill up the gangways.... Why... are you thick or something'. 
  • Chippycafc
    Chippycafc Posts: 14,188
    Croydon said:
    It's an unwritten rule within it's self that you stand at away games - I think it adds to the atmosphere which makes away days so special.

    I do appreciate your situation though and I guess the best solution would be to buy tickets within the disabled area so you can comfortably watch the game and people can also stand.
    If you wanna stand, go find a ground with a terrace. I don't wanna book a space in the disabled bit and take away from someone who needs it. Thankfully for Coventry I've got decent seats and I've only got Swansea to worry about but I should be better by then.
    Fucking hell.
    Oh, I'm sorry for wanting a nice normal day of watching without having any jumped up dickheads around me. Would it be acceptable to twat them around the head with my crutches?
    Yes but they wouldn't feel a thing..... Sadly they have the mentality that it's their day out and not everyone else's. Most fall into this entitled brigade that this country has let loose. 
  • OhMyGodden
    OhMyGodden Posts: 282
    Belv said:
    Croydon said:
    Croydon said:
    It's an unwritten rule within it's self that you stand at away games - I think it adds to the atmosphere which makes away days so special.

    I do appreciate your situation though and I guess the best solution would be to buy tickets within the disabled area so you can comfortably watch the game and people can also stand.
    If you wanna stand, go find a ground with a terrace. I don't wanna book a space in the disabled bit and take away from someone who needs it. Thankfully for Coventry I've got decent seats and I've only got Swansea to worry about but I should be better by then.
    Fucking hell.
    Oh, I'm sorry for wanting a nice normal day of watching without having any jumped up dickheads around me. Would it be acceptable to twat them around the head with my crutches?
    You seem like a patronising prat who's only just discovered football away days, and if you're taking the tone you have on this thread into real life then I'm not surprised people aren't willing to accommodate you when you can't see at the match.

    Saying things like "if you wanna stand, go find a ground with a terrace" when you're in the minority of away travellers is as helpful as me telling you to stay at home because you want to sit.
    Been going since 2009! It wasn't a problem then, but now it is. There's definitely been a shift in the way people act since then, used to be nice, now it's calling everyone a c*nt and looking for fights when someone doesn't agree with you.
    I'm sure had you asked those in Row A to swap places with you so you could sit, I'm sure they would have been happy to, that way everyone is happy.
    I did and they just shrugged their shoulders snd turned around again to watch the match
  • One thing I don't understand is why folk stand in the stairs as well these days and not by their seats. But for me, away games are becoming a bit of a problem because I can't stand the whole game due to an ACL issue, but can't expect people to sit down either, so I just don't go to that many away games anymore sadly. 
  • ElfsborgAddick
    ElfsborgAddick Posts: 29,308
    edited November 12
    Of course this is not everybody's cup of tea, but sitting along the side with the home supporters could be an option.

    Better this than not going to the game?
  • ValleyGary
    ValleyGary Posts: 38,053
    These threads are brilliant cos you just know 30/40 years ago the miserable old boys said exactly the same thing about the Herbert’s then. 
    Now those Herbert’s are the miserable old boys and they don’t like it 🤣

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  • R0TW
    R0TW Posts: 1,699
    I disagree, there have always been miserable fuckers over Charlton from the first day I went.
  • jimmymelrose
    jimmymelrose Posts: 9,811
    edited November 12
    Belv said:

    What's happened to it? People in Row A standing, which caused a chain reaction, which meant me in Row C with crutches couldn't see and am unable to stand for long periods. Got abuse when I asked the two rows infront to sit down. You pay for a seat not a terrace spot ffs. In the end I moved to a couple of free seats in the disabled section. Makes me wonder why I'm even gonna bother with Coventry.

    Also, a lack of seat belt wearing on Coach 1. Pretty sure it was only me and the wife wearing them. I did take comfort knowing we'd be the only ones to make it out alive if anything did happen.

    This comparison to standing at matches and seatbelts on transport is an interesting one.

    Those not wearing seatbelts have obviously never found themselves hanging upside down in a crashed car like me. I'm astounded at their naivity as a result of my experiences.

    I always question why seatbelts are not on trains. It makes no sense to me how standing on trains is allowed. 

    In both the case of football and transport, if you pay for seat, you are entitled to a seat.
    If a coach or train crashes and rolls over, there's very little a seatbelt is going to do to help you. 
    Lol. Imagine two experiments:

    1. Taking a ride in a large indoor wheel, like a wheel at a fairground but indoors and strapped in.

    2. Same as 1 but not strapped in.

    Take a look inside at your clothes in a washing machine at a high speed. Imagine that you are one of the small items of clothing. Then consider that you are not bouncing around with other soft items but crashing into seats and other people. That's you in experiment 2. In experiment 1, don't you think you'd be helped by the seatbelt?
  • jimmymelrose
    jimmymelrose Posts: 9,811
    These threads are brilliant cos you just know 30/40 years ago the miserable old boys said exactly the same thing about the Herbert’s then. 
    Now those Herbert’s are the miserable old boys and they don’t like it 🤣
    30-40 years ago it was all standing and it was easier to move where you wanted because there weren't a load of unused seats getting in the way. For the 9 second jimmymelrose goal, for example, I left my brothers and went down to the front with other kids.
  • golfaddick
    golfaddick Posts: 33,893
    Croydon said:
    Croydon said:
    It's an unwritten rule within it's self that you stand at away games - I think it adds to the atmosphere which makes away days so special.

    I do appreciate your situation though and I guess the best solution would be to buy tickets within the disabled area so you can comfortably watch the game and people can also stand.
    If you wanna stand, go find a ground with a terrace. I don't wanna book a space in the disabled bit and take away from someone who needs it. Thankfully for Coventry I've got decent seats and I've only got Swansea to worry about but I should be better by then.
    Fucking hell.
    Oh, I'm sorry for wanting a nice normal day of watching without having any jumped up dickheads around me. Would it be acceptable to twat them around the head with my crutches?
    You seem like a patronising prat who's only just discovered football away days, and if you're taking the tone you have on this thread into real life then I'm not surprised people aren't willing to accommodate you when you can't see at the match.

    Saying things like "if you wanna stand, go find a ground with a terrace" when you're in the minority of away travellers is as helpful as me telling you to stay at home because you want to sit.
    I must be an old fogey because I thought after Hillsborough (you know, the place where 96 people died because they were crushed to death) all SEATER stadiums were mandatory. I know a few grounds now have "safe" standing, but for all intent & purposes 90% of grounds in the top leagues in England have seats that are meant to be sat in.

    I have no problem with people standing if ALL around them are standing also. But even if a few are seated I think its only right and LAWFUL that you sit down. 

    As an aside......how would you react if I sat in the back of your car & didnt wear a seatbelt.I mean, it's only a law....innit.
  • Shrew
    Shrew Posts: 5,753
    At Wrexham, last year I was completely prepared to spend the match standing and chanting with the rest of the supporters and then....the guys in front of me decided to spend the match standing on their seats ...FFS
  • paulsturgess
    paulsturgess Posts: 3,905
    CAFCTrev said:
    If theres one thing away games tell you it's that just because someone supports Charlton it doesn't mean you'll have anything else in common with them, or even want to like them as a person. 
    Try following England mate!
  • These threads are brilliant cos you just know 30/40 years ago the miserable old boys said exactly the same thing about the Herbert’s then. 
    Now those Herbert’s are the miserable old boys and they don’t like it 🤣
    30-40 years ago it was all standing and it was easier to move where you wanted because there weren't a load of unused seats getting in the way. For the 9 second jimmymelrose goal, for example, I left my brothers and went down to the front with other kids.
    When it was all standing those who were old & knackered had the option of leaning on one of the crush barriers. And anyone who was worried about being barged into when we were celebrating a goal could choose to stand immediately in front of one. Pretty much everyone was Ok with that.
  • se9addick said:
    I always though the understood rule for away days was those wishing to stand go to the back rows, this wishing to sit go to the front rows. 
    I've always assumed that was how it worked, and when I went to Wrexham I knew I'd almost certainly have to stand because my seat was near the back. That was my choice, and if I chose to sit down when there wasn't much happening that was also my choice and no fault of the people standing in front of me.

    The thing was, because the front row of seats at Wrexham is slightly below pitch level, the whole of the lower tier was standing. I can't say I really blame anyone for that, except the muppet who designed Wrexham's stand, but it did mean anyone who actually needed to sit was going to struggle to find anywhere.

    I know it's tricky for the club because they can't really condone standing but perhaps there would be a way of warning fans which games are likely not to have seats at the front with decent views?
  • JohnnyH2
    JohnnyH2 Posts: 5,356
    These threads are brilliant cos you just know 30/40 years ago the miserable old boys said exactly the same thing about the Herbert’s then. 
    Now those Herbert’s are the miserable old boys and they don’t like it 🤣
    30-40 years ago it was all standing and it was easier to move where you wanted because there weren't a load of unused seats getting in the way. For the 9 second jimmymelrose goal, for example, I left my brothers and went down to the front with other kids.
    When it was all standing those who were old & knackered had the option of leaning on one of the crush barriers. And anyone who was worried about being barged into when we were celebrating a goal could choose to stand immediately in front of one. Pretty much everyone was Ok with that.
    It was also very rare for the away team not to have access to an allocation of seats as well as terrace spaces
  • Not starting a new thread just linked to this. Standing at home games. The entrance to the ground is a ticket and a seat. The Millwall game lots of standing. This is selfish and unfair. Not everyone wants to stand. It also makes it that children, that are the future of the club, cannot see.
    when this starts stewards should enforce seating.

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  • shirty5
    shirty5 Posts: 19,319
    Not starting a new thread just linked to this. Standing at home games. The entrance to the ground is a ticket and a seat. The Millwall game lots of standing. This is selfish and unfair. Not everyone wants to stand. It also makes it that children, that are the future of the club, cannot see.
    when this starts stewards should enforce seating.

  • bobmunro
    bobmunro Posts: 20,982
    I have no problem with people standing at away games - it definitely helps the atmosphere, and we would usually choose seats at the back where we know most if not all will be standing. 

    My gripe is not with people standing, it is people who are sitting or standing in our designated seats. It's not a problem where we've sold 500 tickets in a section that houses 1,000, we can easily find three spaces together, but it is a problem where we have sold out an allocation and therefore the number of seats available equates to the number of fans there. Sit, stand, do hand stands if you want - but do it in the seat that's printed on your ticket. I invariably go to away games with my two sons and we want to stand together! It happened at Wrexham - two of our three seats were empty, but not the third and thankfully the guy in one of our seats moved, but that isn't always the case and is a recipe for unnecessary arguments.

    Don't get me started on England games!!

    Yours sincerely
    An old fart
  • fenaddick
    fenaddick Posts: 12,002
    The seat thing should have been sorted by the new ticketing system but doesn’t seem to be working. That said, there have been numerous times where someone’s been in my seat at The Valley too. Not sure there’s a proper solution unfortunately 
  • 2121
    2121 Posts: 1,225
    I can see it from both sides / points of view tbf although i would prefer to stand at away games although my dad would want to sit. 

    thought the club now allows you to pick your away seat?
    if so, it seems obvious (theres likely obvious reasons why not) that they reserve first 5 rows as seated, 1st release over 65s or children (or with a concession), 2nd release those who wish to sit etc 
  • bobmunro
    bobmunro Posts: 20,982
    fenaddick said:
    The seat thing should have been sorted by the new ticketing system but doesn’t seem to be working. That said, there have been numerous times where someone’s been in my seat at The Valley too. Not sure there’s a proper solution unfortunately 

    If someone was sitting in my seat (ST) at The Valley there is a solution - but maybe not proper :)
  • killerandflash
    killerandflash Posts: 70,112
    edited November 13
    Not starting a new thread just linked to this. Standing at home games. The entrance to the ground is a ticket and a seat. The Millwall game lots of standing. This is selfish and unfair. Not everyone wants to stand. It also makes it that children, that are the future of the club, cannot see.
    when this starts stewards should enforce seating.
    In the Family, West and East stands, everyone sits. I think the same applies to the NW quadrant.

    In the Covered End, many people will stand. 

    That seems a fair split of the ground.
  • CAFCTrev
    CAFCTrev Posts: 6,032
    A hearty "SIDDDAAAAARN" works every time. 
  • stoneroses19
    stoneroses19 Posts: 7,322
    Croydon said:
    It's an unwritten rule within it's self that you stand at away games - I think it adds to the atmosphere which makes away days so special.

    I do appreciate your situation though and I guess the best solution would be to buy tickets within the disabled area so you can comfortably watch the game and people can also stand.
    If you wanna stand, go find a ground with a terrace. I don't wanna book a space in the disabled bit and take away from someone who needs it. Thankfully for Coventry I've got decent seats and I've only got Swansea to worry about but I should be better by then.
    Fucking hell.
    Oh, I'm sorry for wanting a nice normal day of watching without having any jumped up dickheads around me. Would it be acceptable to twat them around the head with my crutches?
    No need for calling fellow fans dickheads, is there? Maybe think for a second before clicking post. 

    Plenty of people who prefer to stand at away games have posted decent comments on this thread about how to make the situation best for everyone. If you're someone at the game calling people names like above, then you're the one causing issues. 
  • stoneroses19
    stoneroses19 Posts: 7,322
    Croydon said:
    Croydon said:
    It's an unwritten rule within it's self that you stand at away games - I think it adds to the atmosphere which makes away days so special.

    I do appreciate your situation though and I guess the best solution would be to buy tickets within the disabled area so you can comfortably watch the game and people can also stand.
    If you wanna stand, go find a ground with a terrace. I don't wanna book a space in the disabled bit and take away from someone who needs it. Thankfully for Coventry I've got decent seats and I've only got Swansea to worry about but I should be better by then.
    Fucking hell.
    Oh, I'm sorry for wanting a nice normal day of watching without having any jumped up dickheads around me. Would it be acceptable to twat them around the head with my crutches?
    You seem like a patronising prat who's only just discovered football away days, and if you're taking the tone you have on this thread into real life then I'm not surprised people aren't willing to accommodate you when you can't see at the match.

    Saying things like "if you wanna stand, go find a ground with a terrace" when you're in the minority of away travellers is as helpful as me telling you to stay at home because you want to sit.
    Been going since 2009! It wasn't a problem then, but now it is. There's definitely been a shift in the way people act since then, used to be nice, now it's calling everyone a c*nt and looking for fights when someone doesn't agree with you.
    If Charlton away games were really this bad, someone would have made a thread a long time ago and there would be 100s of new posts every time we play away.
  • Kap10
    Kap10 Posts: 15,614
    Croydon said:
    It's an unwritten rule within it's self that you stand at away games - I think it adds to the atmosphere which makes away days so special.

    I do appreciate your situation though and I guess the best solution would be to buy tickets within the disabled area so you can comfortably watch the game and people can also stand.
    If you wanna stand, go find a ground with a terrace. I don't wanna book a space in the disabled bit and take away from someone who needs it. Thankfully for Coventry I've got decent seats and I've only got Swansea to worry about but I should be better by then.
    Fucking hell.
    Oh, I'm sorry for wanting a nice normal day of watching without having any jumped up dickheads around me. Would it be acceptable to twat them around the head with my crutches?
    No need for calling fellow fans dickheads, is there? Maybe think for a second before clicking post. 

    Plenty of people who prefer to stand at away games have posted decent comments on this thread about how to make the situation best for everyone. If you're someone at the game calling people names like above, then you're the one causing issues. 
    But there is no denying like every club we do have a few  :p