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Woolwich Ferry Roundabout

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  • OhMyGodden
    OhMyGodden Posts: 297
    And to now add to this, Woolwich Road is closed from the junction of Charlton Church Lane to the junction of Rathmore Road until next Monday due to a "gas leak"
  • Gribbo
    Gribbo Posts: 8,621
    E6ToSE3 said:
    shirty5 said:
    If coming from Woolwich via bus to the ground give yourself extra time for the coming months 
    Just walk. We always walked from East Ham via ferry or tunnel. 30 minutes very slow amble from Woolwich to ground, under 20 minutes brisk walk
    I've jogged it in 10, not counting the 3 week in cardio ICU
  • Elthamaddick
    Elthamaddick Posts: 15,919
    E6ToSE3 said:
    cafckev said:
    We already struggle to make progress in our Ambulance when on blue lights between Charlton and the Woolwich flyover because of the single lane in each direction because the buses stopping on the road.
    I bet the 20 or so bikes that will use those cycle lanes will be very happy though, so that’s ok.
    I may have to try to get a Road tax rebate at this rate because we are losing Road space at pace. Maybe it’s time to make cyclists pay to use the roads seen as though they are getting more and more tarmac now days.
    You know that's nonsense. At least one other reply has explained. Further west, at some times of day, hundreds of bikes use it the lanes - an impressive sight.
       No such thing as road tax. Cyclists pay tax, like everyone else but, apart from the very confident, have not got the road use for which they have paid in taxation. Bicycle riding saves fortunes for NHS in healthier people not needing it compared to drivers, so that's another way cyclists pay for road use.
       BTW, as a strong cyclist, even at 70, I hate bike lanes as they are slow, with added interfaces with vehicles turning across the lanes, other riders don't know Highway Code, ebikes are powerful, heavy, and reckless, and it was best for me when almost no other riders. But I concede they are better for thousands more people than me and my fellow long-termers
    eh?
  • randy andy
    randy andy Posts: 5,462
    E6ToSE3 said:
    cafckev said:
    We already struggle to make progress in our Ambulance when on blue lights between Charlton and the Woolwich flyover because of the single lane in each direction because the buses stopping on the road.
    I bet the 20 or so bikes that will use those cycle lanes will be very happy though, so that’s ok.
    I may have to try to get a Road tax rebate at this rate because we are losing Road space at pace. Maybe it’s time to make cyclists pay to use the roads seen as though they are getting more and more tarmac now days.
    You know that's nonsense. At least one other reply has explained. Further west, at some times of day, hundreds of bikes use it the lanes - an impressive sight.
       No such thing as road tax. Cyclists pay tax, like everyone else but, apart from the very confident, have not got the road use for which they have paid in taxation. Bicycle riding saves fortunes for NHS in healthier people not needing it compared to drivers, so that's another way cyclists pay for road use.
       BTW, as a strong cyclist, even at 70, I hate bike lanes as they are slow, with added interfaces with vehicles turning across the lanes, other riders don't know Highway Code, ebikes are powerful, heavy, and reckless, and it was best for me when almost no other riders. But I concede they are better for thousands more people than me and my fellow long-termers
    eh?
    There hasn't been a "road tax" since the 1930s, abolished because, ironically, people who paid it thought they owned the road. Since then there have been various vehicle duties instead, based on different things such as size/weight/power and most recently based on what comes out of the exhaust. There has never been a duty on bikes because they've always come (far) under whatever metric was used to calculate the duty.
  • Sage
    Sage Posts: 7,300
    All of these things will continue as Greenwich aim to hit their sustainability and green targets that are completely unreasonable and they don’t care about the real life impact it will inevitably have on everyone within the borough. Using roads is becoming seriously challenging and adding cycle lanes that ruin the flow of the roads further (that less than 1% of the population in the borough use), does nothing to help matters. 
  • clive
    clive Posts: 19,722
    Sage said:
    All of these things will continue as Greenwich aim to hit their sustainability and green targets that are completely unreasonable and they don’t care about the real life impact it will inevitably have on everyone within the borough. Using roads is becoming seriously challenging and adding cycle lanes that ruin the flow of the roads further (that less than 1% of the population in the borough use), does nothing to help matters. 

    Cycling group among 500 objectors to Woolwich Common cycle lane

     https://greenwichwire.co.uk/2025/11/10/woolwich-common-cycle-lane-trees-greenwich-cyclists/
  • Valleyfan2
    Valleyfan2 Posts: 228
    All this cost and disruption that is totally unnecessary as there is already an existing brilliant safer cycle path running along the side of the Thames just a stones throw from the proposed new one. When I use it there are usually quite a few cyclists in it which may be why so few use the road one. 
  • Crusty54
    Crusty54 Posts: 3,268
    All this cost and disruption that is totally unnecessary as there is already an existing brilliant safer cycle path running along the side of the Thames just a stones throw from the proposed new one. When I use it there are usually quite a few cyclists in it which may be why so few use the road one. 
    They're adding a link between existing lanes in Woolwich Road and the riverside down Anchor & Hope Lane (removing most of the 486 bus lane to Charlton Church Lane.

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  • Crusty54
    Crusty54 Posts: 3,268
    clive said:
    Sage said:
    All of these things will continue as Greenwich aim to hit their sustainability and green targets that are completely unreasonable and they don’t care about the real life impact it will inevitably have on everyone within the borough. Using roads is becoming seriously challenging and adding cycle lanes that ruin the flow of the roads further (that less than 1% of the population in the borough use), does nothing to help matters. 

    Cycling group among 500 objectors to Woolwich Common cycle lane

     https://greenwichwire.co.uk/2025/11/10/woolwich-common-cycle-lane-trees-greenwich-cyclists/
    The Woolwich Common cycle lane won't now be discussed next Tuesday. No reason given.
  • jose
    jose Posts: 812
    All this cost and disruption that is totally unnecessary as there is already an existing brilliant safer cycle path running along the side of the Thames just a stones throw from the proposed new one. When I use it there are usually quite a few cyclists in it which may be why so few use the road one. 
    Isn’t that Thameside path for both pedestrians and cyclists, or is it exclusively for cyclists?
    Ordinary pavements are exclusively for pedestrians, I don’t know if cyclists realise that.
  • Baldybonce
    Baldybonce Posts: 9,699
    jose said:
    All this cost and disruption that is totally unnecessary as there is already an existing brilliant safer cycle path running along the side of the Thames just a stones throw from the proposed new one. When I use it there are usually quite a few cyclists in it which may be why so few use the road one. 
    Isn’t that Thameside path for both pedestrians and cyclists, or is it exclusively for cyclists?
    Ordinary pavements are exclusively for pedestrians, I don’t know if cyclists realise that.
    Some are now shared.
  • jose
    jose Posts: 812
    jose said:
    All this cost and disruption that is totally unnecessary as there is already an existing brilliant safer cycle path running along the side of the Thames just a stones throw from the proposed new one. When I use it there are usually quite a few cyclists in it which may be why so few use the road one. 
    Isn’t that Thameside path for both pedestrians and cyclists, or is it exclusively for cyclists?
    Ordinary pavements are exclusively for pedestrians, I don’t know if cyclists realise that.
    Some are now shared.
    They probably are, especially if those pavements are properly marked and signposted.
    I am struggling to think where the shared pedestrian/cyclist pavements actually are in South East London.
    I very frequently see cyclists on pavements, many expecting me to make room for them as they cycle along, many on electric bikes.
    Cars make roads unsafe for cyclists is true, but cyclists make pavements unsafe for pedestrians is also true.
  • clive
    clive Posts: 19,722
    Crusty54 said:
    clive said:
    Sage said:
    All of these things will continue as Greenwich aim to hit their sustainability and green targets that are completely unreasonable and they don’t care about the real life impact it will inevitably have on everyone within the borough. Using roads is becoming seriously challenging and adding cycle lanes that ruin the flow of the roads further (that less than 1% of the population in the borough use), does nothing to help matters. 

    Cycling group among 500 objectors to Woolwich Common cycle lane

     https://greenwichwire.co.uk/2025/11/10/woolwich-common-cycle-lane-trees-greenwich-cyclists/
    The Woolwich Common cycle lane won't now be discussed next Tuesday. No reason given.
    https://greenwichwire.co.uk/2025/11/14/woolwich-common-trees-cycle-lane-stadium-road/
  • Baldybonce
    Baldybonce Posts: 9,699
    jose said:
    jose said:
    All this cost and disruption that is totally unnecessary as there is already an existing brilliant safer cycle path running along the side of the Thames just a stones throw from the proposed new one. When I use it there are usually quite a few cyclists in it which may be why so few use the road one. 
    Isn’t that Thameside path for both pedestrians and cyclists, or is it exclusively for cyclists?
    Ordinary pavements are exclusively for pedestrians, I don’t know if cyclists realise that.
    Some are now shared.
    They probably are, especially if those pavements are properly marked and signposted.
    I am struggling to think where the shared pedestrian/cyclist pavements actually are in South East London.

    Sidcup road near the Dutch house.