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Housing Developments in Kent

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  • ElfsborgAddick
    ElfsborgAddick Posts: 29,308
    Out of a housing development or a hospital I'd sooner have a hospital built. 
    A hospital is more important.
  • Carter
    Carter Posts: 14,301
    Out of a housing development or a hospital I'd sooner have a hospital built. 
    A hospital is more important.
    Agree

    In reality the choice isn’t as binary as that but hospitals don't or shouldn't generate revenue whereas sticking 500 timber framed boxes with postage stamp gardens that are overlooked by everyone else do generate revenue and don't anyone buy the line that developers aren't making money on developments. New builds sell at a premium, the token amounts given to local authorities for them to piss up the wall never tangibly improve or even not make worse, local infrastructure. There is one in Rainham, built in land wholly unsuitable for housing due to the water table but, whatever. And the cheapest place is 340k, the developers have made or have promised to make contributions to various funds but the tiny road that takes you to this estate has seen no improvement and due to the construction traffic is knackered now. Covered in a film of mud just in time for the weather to make a few statistics go up there but "we need houses" at any cost apparently. 


  • ElfsborgAddick
    ElfsborgAddick Posts: 29,308
    Carter said:
    Out of a housing development or a hospital I'd sooner have a hospital built. 
    A hospital is more important.
    Agree

    In reality the choice isn’t as binary as that but hospitals don't or shouldn't generate revenue whereas sticking 500 timber framed boxes with postage stamp gardens that are overlooked by everyone else do generate revenue and don't anyone buy the line that developers aren't making money on developments. New builds sell at a premium, the token amounts given to local authorities for them to piss up the wall never tangibly improve or even not make worse, local infrastructure. There is one in Rainham, built in land wholly unsuitable for housing due to the water table but, whatever. And the cheapest place is 340k, the developers have made or have promised to make contributions to various funds but the tiny road that takes you to this estate has seen no improvement and due to the construction traffic is knackered now. Covered in a film of mud just in time for the weather to make a few statistics go up there but "we need houses" at any cost apparently. 



    All the whilst the population figures are rising in thousands by the week.
  • DOUCHER
    DOUCHER Posts: 7,961
    orchard theatre site will be developed as flats - not related but i'm all for relaxing the green belt rules rather than building boxes in the sky - as long as the developments also provide infrastructure upgrades - schools and the like - it makes total sense - ideally however they should be built and owned by local authorities   
  • msomerton
    msomerton Posts: 3,016
    seth plum said:
    Isn't the problem world population increase, not national population increase?
    Not entirely. The world population may be gradually growing, but in addition there is also immigration from poorer countries to richer ones, and indeed from poorer regions to richer ones - I can't imagine many people leave London to go and work in Blackburn or Middlesbrough for example.

    To add more context to those figures, the net increase in UK population between 2022 and 2024 was 2.2 million people, with a population starting point for that period of 64 million people. So a growth in population of 3.6% in 3 years.
    No wonder house building has to rocket.
  • msomerton
    msomerton Posts: 3,016
    msomerton said:
    seth plum said:
    Isn't the problem world population increase, not national population increase?
    Not entirely. The world population may be gradually growing, but in addition there is also immigration from poorer countries to richer ones, and indeed from poorer regions to richer ones - I can't imagine many people leave London to go and work in Blackburn or Middlesbrough for example.

    To add more context to those figures, the net increase in UK population between 2022 and 2024 was 2.2 million people, with a population starting point for that period of 64 million people. So a growth in population of 3.6% in 3 years.
    No wonder house building has to rocket.
    The figures are those from the ONS.
  • golfaddick
    golfaddick Posts: 33,894
    msomerton said:
    seth plum said:
    Isn't the problem world population increase, not national population increase?
    Not entirely. The world population may be gradually growing, but in addition there is also immigration from poorer countries to richer ones, and indeed from poorer regions to richer ones - I can't imagine many people leave London to go and work in Blackburn or Middlesbrough for example.

    To add more context to those figures, the net increase in UK population between 2022 and 2024 was 2.2 million people, with a population starting point for that period of 64 million people. So a growth in population of 3.6% in 3 years.
    No wonder house building has to rocket.
    Precisely.

    But the left just keep on with their "let 'em in" mantra.
  • Hex
    Hex Posts: 1,908
    CPRE's Sevenoaks branch has contacted town and parish councils in the district about the new grey belt policy, which is causing a great deal of concern.

    CPRE Sevenoaks are supporting the petition to urge the government to rethink the grey belt policy, and encouraging residents to sign and support the petition which this group may find interesting.

    https://petition.parliament.uk/petitions/725558

    You can make your own grey belt land now.  If you own a bit of green belt land then just let it go wild for a couple of years and, hey presto !, it’s now grey belt and you can get planning approval.  I agree with the disused car park definition (a car park nobody wants to use - really !?), but the NPPF has gone much too far.
  • Baldybonce
    Baldybonce Posts: 9,688
    Carter said:
    Out of a housing development or a hospital I'd sooner have a hospital built. 
    A hospital is more important.
    Agree

    In reality the choice isn’t as binary as that but hospitals don't or shouldn't generate revenue whereas sticking 500 timber framed boxes with postage stamp gardens that are overlooked by everyone else do generate revenue and don't anyone buy the line that developers aren't making money on developments. New builds sell at a premium, the token amounts given to local authorities for them to piss up the wall never tangibly improve or even not make worse, local infrastructure. There is one in Rainham, built in land wholly unsuitable for housing due to the water table but, whatever. And the cheapest place is 340k, the developers have made or have promised to make contributions to various funds but the tiny road that takes you to this estate has seen no improvement and due to the construction traffic is knackered now. Covered in a film of mud just in time for the weather to make a few statistics go up there but "we need houses" at any cost apparently. 



    All the whilst the population figures are rising in thousands by the week.
    Houseboats?

     o:)