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lancashire lad
lancashire lad Posts: 15,649
edited November 1 in General Charlton

Jones said:

"“Conor is a six and Doc is more of a six/eight while the other two are eight/tens. We were very, very bold in trying that. I was pleased with how we came through that because it shows we have other things we can do."

what is he on about re 6/8 and 8/10?

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  • superclive98
    superclive98 Posts: 4,806
    Positions.
    Holding midfielder, up and down midfielder, attacking midfielder.
  • MrOneLung
    MrOneLung Posts: 26,920
    He was getting his stats in LL

    Dont forget to add them to the player marks. 
  • Macronate
    Macronate Posts: 12,914
    How handsome they are?
  • golfaddick
    golfaddick Posts: 33,776
    Back in the day players had shirt numbers 1-11 and someone wearing a number between 2 & 6 was a defender. Anyone wearing a number 9, 10 or 11 was an attacker. 

    Nowadays players wear whatever number they like so coaches have to delve back into the past to explain their tactics/formations.

    Like XG it's all crap.
  • Stig
    Stig Posts: 29,113
    edited November 1
    Extract below from Wiki, though the full article is worth a scan as there are loads of exceptions and differences around the world:https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Squad_number_(association_football)

    Interesting to note that The Massives are cited as early influencers on the numbering front, I'm sure that's the sort of thing our slurry cousins would love to have a claim to. 


  • Stig
    Stig Posts: 29,113
    Back in the day players had shirt numbers 1-11 and someone wearing a number between 2 & 6 was a defender. Anyone wearing a number 9, 10 or 11 was an attacker. 

    Nowadays players wear whatever number they like so coaches have to delve back into the past to explain their tactics/formations.

    Like XG it's all crap.
    I'm not sure that's quite right otherwise there'd be players wearing the same number. I much prefer the squad numbering system to positional numbering. It's very helpful for people to know who they are watching, whereas if you want to know what position they are playing it's generally better to look at the place they take on the pitch. 
  • Chizz
    Chizz Posts: 28,356
    6-7 

    IYKYK
  • aliwibble
    aliwibble Posts: 26,498
    My attempt would probably be Coventry is a Kish, Doc is a Kinsella, and the other two are Graham Stuarts, but that doesn't feel quite right.
  • killerandflash
    killerandflash Posts: 70,008
    6 is Claude Makelele
    8 is a Brian Robson
    10 is a Lionel Messi
  • jimmymelrose
    jimmymelrose Posts: 9,775
    edited November 1
    As someone said above it differs from country to country so in modern professional football it’s a nonsense for a manager to make reference to these numbers. He could inadvertently be giving the wrong instructions to his foreign players.  The big difference in France is that the 4 & 6 are reversed. Do they explain this to players to France, North and West Africa. I doubt it. 
    Personally I can’t really relate to 6, 8 ,10 and all that stuff anymore when there are top players permanently wearing numbers over 20. In fact I considered it old hat once Balmer was playing as no1.

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  • thenewbie
    thenewbie Posts: 11,027
    edited November 1
    As someone said above it differs from country to country so in modern professional football it’s a nonsense for a manager to make reference to these numbers. He could inadvertently be giving the wrong instructions to his foreign players.  The big difference in France is that the 4 & 6 are reversed. Do they explain this to players to France, North and West Africa. I doubt it. 
    Personally I can’t really relate to 6, 8 ,10 and all that stuff anymore when there are top players permanently wearing numbers over 20. In fact I considered it old hat once Balmer was playing as no1.
    I'd be very surprised indeed if the actual instructions he's giving the players are just "you are the 6, he's the 8."

    It makes a decent shorthand for interviews and press stuff but given how exacting Jones is about how the players all have specific roles you can bet he's very clear indeed what he wants them to do in training/during matches.
  • Pelling1993
    Pelling1993 Posts: 6,739
    6 is Claude Makelele
    8 is a Brian Robson
    10 is a Lionel Messi
    Don’t disrespect Sonny by comparing him to that Argentine fraud!
  • MrOneLung
    MrOneLung Posts: 26,920
    Chizz said:
    6-7 

    IYKYK
    Chizz is down with the kids 
  • MrOneLung
    MrOneLung Posts: 26,920
    Never understood why the centre backs skip number 4 and randomly go 5/6
  • Peter_G
    Peter_G Posts: 841
    When they first allowed teams to change from the old 1-11 numbers, Charlton allocated the shirt numbers in alphabetical order. Stuart Balmer took the no 1 shirt! 
  • cantersaddick
    cantersaddick Posts: 17,030
    Stig said:
    Extract below from Wiki, though the full article is worth a scan as there are loads of exceptions and differences around the world:https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Squad_number_(association_football)

    Interesting to note that The Massives are cited as early influencers on the numbering front, I'm sure that's the sort of thing our slurry cousins would love to have a claim to. 


    The 6 and 4 have swapped in the last decade or so. 4 is now the CB and 6 the DM.

    I quite like it as an easy way to differentiate the different type of roles a manager expects his midfielders to be playing. For example we play with a number 10, but compared to a lot of other teams our 10 plays much more like a cross between a 10 and an 8 in that he's expected to have a much higher off the ball work rate and more defensive responsibilities. 
  • Fumbluff
    Fumbluff Posts: 10,150
    It’s actually how many Creme Eggs they can fit up their arses….
  • jimmymelrose
    jimmymelrose Posts: 9,775
    Peter_G said:
    When they first allowed teams to change from the old 1-11 numbers, Charlton allocated the shirt numbers in alphabetical order. Stuart Balmer took the no 1 shirt! 
    As I had already said beford you.
  • ElfsborgAddick
    ElfsborgAddick Posts: 29,208
    Positions.
    Holding midfielder, up and down midfielder, attacking midfielder.

    What to make of a player if he's described as a number two.
  • charltonbob
    charltonbob Posts: 8,289
    Positions.
    Holding midfielder, up and down midfielder, attacking midfielder.

    What to make of a player if he's described as a number two.
    He used to be shite, but now he's alright.

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  • Redvaliant
    Redvaliant Posts: 517
    In old football language, a 6 was a left wing half, an 8 was inside right and a 10 was an inside left. 
  • ElfsborgAddick
    ElfsborgAddick Posts: 29,208
    In old football language, a 6 was a left wing half, an 8 was inside right and a 10 was an inside left. 

    Centre half, up front and midfield.