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After the Millwall game - club reply to CAST p34, further CAST response p45
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12 stewards - and all on the Charlton side of the fence, again. That's absolutely pathetic. Are they supposed to be looking intimidating or something? If so, to who - the old folk in the East Stand?TootingRedArmy said:
Well the wall of stewards at Gate 21 yesterday continues to grow with yellow and blue and red jackets with green jacketed superviser. Question when gate can be opened on the other side where are the stewards?
Yesterday looked like around 10 police around the control room in JS & WS corner, presume these are paid for by the club, why aren't they standing in Away end?
Question for club and police is JS stand a Police No Go zone with Millwall fans?
I'm trying to think if there are other areas parts of UK which are Police No Go zones?
where they don't go as it may agiate the public or sit and wait 4 minutes before responding?
worrying response from the police why they stood back from arresting the Millwall fans attacking Charlton fans at Gate 21, would police stand back for 4 minutes when someone is attacked in a street? bank is raided?
No one has been able to answer what 300 police actually did or where they were at Millwall game or what it cost? How many were just sat in white vans doing nothing?
I was walking down the hill yesterday before turning off to walk towards the Sam Bartrum gate @ 2.15pm, five white vans with sirens blaring came down the hill in the direction of Royal Oak, was there trouble?5 -
To stop the home fans from marauding down to the gate looking for agg with the away fans .
I’m guessing they now block the exit side from the Jimmy Seed Stand to that no go zone .
what actually is there for the away fans , are there toilets or just nothing1 -
What do you think they should look like? They’re stewards, not the f***ing SASOff_it said:
12 stewards - and all on the Charlton side of the fence, again. That's absolutely pathetic. Are they supposed to be looking intimidating or something? If so, to who - the old folk in the East Stand?TootingRedArmy said:
Well the wall of stewards at Gate 21 yesterday continues to grow with yellow and blue and red jackets with green jacketed superviser. Question when gate can be opened on the other side where are the stewards?
Yesterday looked like around 10 police around the control room in JS & WS corner, presume these are paid for by the club, why aren't they standing in Away end?
Question for club and police is JS stand a Police No Go zone with Millwall fans?
I'm trying to think if there are other areas parts of UK which are Police No Go zones?
where they don't go as it may agiate the public or sit and wait 4 minutes before responding?
worrying response from the police why they stood back from arresting the Millwall fans attacking Charlton fans at Gate 21, would police stand back for 4 minutes when someone is attacked in a street? bank is raided?
No one has been able to answer what 300 police actually did or where they were at Millwall game or what it cost? How many were just sat in white vans doing nothing?
I was walking down the hill yesterday before turning off to walk towards the Sam Bartrum gate @ 2.15pm, five white vans with sirens blaring came down the hill in the direction of Royal Oak, was there trouble?0 -
SID said:
What do you think they should look like? They’re stewards, not the f***ing SASOff_it said:
12 stewards - and all on the Charlton side of the fence, again. That's absolutely pathetic. Are they supposed to be looking intimidating or something? If so, to who - the old folk in the East Stand?TootingRedArmy said:
Well the wall of stewards at Gate 21 yesterday continues to grow with yellow and blue and red jackets with green jacketed superviser. Question when gate can be opened on the other side where are the stewards?
Yesterday looked like around 10 police around the control room in JS & WS corner, presume these are paid for by the club, why aren't they standing in Away end?
Question for club and police is JS stand a Police No Go zone with Millwall fans?
I'm trying to think if there are other areas parts of UK which are Police No Go zones?
where they don't go as it may agiate the public or sit and wait 4 minutes before responding?
worrying response from the police why they stood back from arresting the Millwall fans attacking Charlton fans at Gate 21, would police stand back for 4 minutes when someone is attacked in a street? bank is raided?
No one has been able to answer what 300 police actually did or where they were at Millwall game or what it cost? How many were just sat in white vans doing nothing?
I was walking down the hill yesterday before turning off to walk towards the Sam Bartrum gate @ 2.15pm, five white vans with sirens blaring came down the hill in the direction of Royal Oak, was there trouble?
I think the point being made was that they were the wrong side of the fence.
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I was referring to the looking intimidating part of the post. Presumably they were standing on the side of the gate they were instructed to. I don’t know why anymore than you or off it. I just don’t see the need to ridicule or take the piss of a bunch of people doing what they’ve been told to do.0
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SID said:I was referring to the looking intimidating part of the post. Presumably they were standing on the side of the gate they were instructed to. I don’t know why anymore than you or off it. I just don’t see the need to ridicule or take the piss of a bunch of people doing what they’ve been told to do.
I certainly was not, and it does not appear that way with @Off_it
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Wind your neck in. Nobody is taking the piss out of people just doing their job.SID said:I was referring to the looking intimidating part of the post. Presumably they were standing on the side of the gate they were instructed to. I don’t know why anymore than you or off it. I just don’t see the need to ridicule or take the piss of a bunch of people doing what they’ve been told to do.
But the way they're all stood there like that you would think there expecting trouble, and from the East Stand side of the gate. It just looks very odd.2 -
Totally agree. My first reaction was, 'Why are they all facing the wrong way'?Off_it said:
12 stewards - and all on the Charlton side of the fence, again. That's absolutely pathetic. Are they supposed to be looking intimidating or something? If so, to who - the old folk in the East Stand?TootingRedArmy said:
Well the wall of stewards at Gate 21 yesterday continues to grow with yellow and blue and red jackets with green jacketed superviser. Question when gate can be opened on the other side where are the stewards?
Yesterday looked like around 10 police around the control room in JS & WS corner, presume these are paid for by the club, why aren't they standing in Away end?
Question for club and police is JS stand a Police No Go zone with Millwall fans?
I'm trying to think if there are other areas parts of UK which are Police No Go zones?
where they don't go as it may agiate the public or sit and wait 4 minutes before responding?
worrying response from the police why they stood back from arresting the Millwall fans attacking Charlton fans at Gate 21, would police stand back for 4 minutes when someone is attacked in a street? bank is raided?
No one has been able to answer what 300 police actually did or where they were at Millwall game or what it cost? How many were just sat in white vans doing nothing?
I was walking down the hill yesterday before turning off to walk towards the Sam Bartrum gate @ 2.15pm, five white vans with sirens blaring came down the hill in the direction of Royal Oak, was there trouble?1 -
I don't disagree with any of this, but from what i saw online Palace fans were pretty inconvenienced as well. Held in the street for ages and couldn't access the station for almost an hour after the final whistle, and remember this was a night match too when all the vast majority of fans want to do is just get home as quick as possible.Off_it said:
I don't think there's any doubt that we will get our usual treatment at the Den.fenaddick said:Been communicated better by QPR but we're now starting to see a pattern of Millwall not being held back at London away games and fans being diverted, will be interesting to see what happens when they host a London club
https://www.qpr.co.uk/news/2025/october/16/road-closures-millwall-161025/
This isn't about the Met having a new treatment for policing London derbies, it's about the way they police Millwall away games in London.
They seem to be saying they can't control them any other way. Which seems to fly in the face of what their (tamer) fans tell us on here that they're all angels now.
Anyway, closing a few roads at Palace and QPR isn't the same as what happened at The Valley. The geography of our ground meant that just about all of our home fans were dangerously funnelled down one road and therefore inconvenienced in some way,all so as to give Millwall favourable treatment.
Not entirely the same at QPR or Palace where all their stands aren't emptying out into one bottleneck.
So, even more reason to hold Millwall back at the Valley than elsewhere , because of the potentially dangerous bottle neck they manufactured.1 -
I suppose because the trouble at the millwall game was initiated from our side of the gate.Major said:
Totally agree. My first reaction was, 'Why are they all facing the wrong way'?Off_it said:
12 stewards - and all on the Charlton side of the fence, again. That's absolutely pathetic. Are they supposed to be looking intimidating or something? If so, to who - the old folk in the East Stand?TootingRedArmy said:
Well the wall of stewards at Gate 21 yesterday continues to grow with yellow and blue and red jackets with green jacketed superviser. Question when gate can be opened on the other side where are the stewards?
Yesterday looked like around 10 police around the control room in JS & WS corner, presume these are paid for by the club, why aren't they standing in Away end?
Question for club and police is JS stand a Police No Go zone with Millwall fans?
I'm trying to think if there are other areas parts of UK which are Police No Go zones?
where they don't go as it may agiate the public or sit and wait 4 minutes before responding?
worrying response from the police why they stood back from arresting the Millwall fans attacking Charlton fans at Gate 21, would police stand back for 4 minutes when someone is attacked in a street? bank is raided?
No one has been able to answer what 300 police actually did or where they were at Millwall game or what it cost? How many were just sat in white vans doing nothing?
I was walking down the hill yesterday before turning off to walk towards the Sam Bartrum gate @ 2.15pm, five white vans with sirens blaring came down the hill in the direction of Royal Oak, was there trouble?
This is a show of 'look we're doing something'.
The stewards in future for 'risk' games should be some either side of the gate.2 -
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Good luck getting volunteers to go on the Millwall side next season.Baldybonce said:
I suppose because the trouble at the millwall game was initiated from our side of the gate.Major said:
Totally agree. My first reaction was, 'Why are they all facing the wrong way'?Off_it said:
12 stewards - and all on the Charlton side of the fence, again. That's absolutely pathetic. Are they supposed to be looking intimidating or something? If so, to who - the old folk in the East Stand?TootingRedArmy said:
Well the wall of stewards at Gate 21 yesterday continues to grow with yellow and blue and red jackets with green jacketed superviser. Question when gate can be opened on the other side where are the stewards?
Yesterday looked like around 10 police around the control room in JS & WS corner, presume these are paid for by the club, why aren't they standing in Away end?
Question for club and police is JS stand a Police No Go zone with Millwall fans?
I'm trying to think if there are other areas parts of UK which are Police No Go zones?
where they don't go as it may agiate the public or sit and wait 4 minutes before responding?
worrying response from the police why they stood back from arresting the Millwall fans attacking Charlton fans at Gate 21, would police stand back for 4 minutes when someone is attacked in a street? bank is raided?
No one has been able to answer what 300 police actually did or where they were at Millwall game or what it cost? How many were just sat in white vans doing nothing?
I was walking down the hill yesterday before turning off to walk towards the Sam Bartrum gate @ 2.15pm, five white vans with sirens blaring came down the hill in the direction of Royal Oak, was there trouble?
This is a show of 'look we're doing something'.
The stewards in future for 'risk' games should be some either side of the gate.0 -
Because someone yelled ‘cheese’ ! 😉Major said:
Totally agree. My first reaction was, 'Why are they all facing the wrong way'?Off_it said:
12 stewards - and all on the Charlton side of the fence, again. That's absolutely pathetic. Are they supposed to be looking intimidating or something? If so, to who - the old folk in the East Stand?TootingRedArmy said:
Well the wall of stewards at Gate 21 yesterday continues to grow with yellow and blue and red jackets with green jacketed superviser. Question when gate can be opened on the other side where are the stewards?
Yesterday looked like around 10 police around the control room in JS & WS corner, presume these are paid for by the club, why aren't they standing in Away end?
Question for club and police is JS stand a Police No Go zone with Millwall fans?
I'm trying to think if there are other areas parts of UK which are Police No Go zones?
where they don't go as it may agiate the public or sit and wait 4 minutes before responding?
worrying response from the police why they stood back from arresting the Millwall fans attacking Charlton fans at Gate 21, would police stand back for 4 minutes when someone is attacked in a street? bank is raided?
No one has been able to answer what 300 police actually did or where they were at Millwall game or what it cost? How many were just sat in white vans doing nothing?
I was walking down the hill yesterday before turning off to walk towards the Sam Bartrum gate @ 2.15pm, five white vans with sirens blaring came down the hill in the direction of Royal Oak, was there trouble?0 -
They could’ve been looking at someone who’d spilled their bovril or two dogs shagging for all you know. Is it possible to see anything of the pitch there? But somehow you’ve gleaned that they are looking intimidating towards Charlton fans.Off_it said:
Wind your neck in. Nobody is taking the piss out of people just doing their job.SID said:I was referring to the looking intimidating part of the post. Presumably they were standing on the side of the gate they were instructed to. I don’t know why anymore than you or off it. I just don’t see the need to ridicule or take the piss of a bunch of people doing what they’ve been told to do.
But the way they're all stood there like that you would think there expecting trouble, and from the East Stand side of the gate. It just looks very odd.I don’t know if you’re a mystic or a moron but see if you can get your deductive powers going and tell which one of the two I’d choose if I had to.0 -
I thought it looked very odd as we were leaving. There really is no need at all... unless you have dickhead fans on both sides goading each other all game and offering each other out...
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Oh, that's easy to answer - I'm a moron. A total buffoon. I'm well known for it.SID said:
They could’ve been looking at someone who’d spilled their bovril or two dogs shagging for all you know. Is it possible to see anything of the pitch there? But somehow you’ve gleaned that they are looking intimidating towards Charlton fans.Off_it said:
Wind your neck in. Nobody is taking the piss out of people just doing their job.SID said:I was referring to the looking intimidating part of the post. Presumably they were standing on the side of the gate they were instructed to. I don’t know why anymore than you or off it. I just don’t see the need to ridicule or take the piss of a bunch of people doing what they’ve been told to do.
But the way they're all stood there like that you would think there expecting trouble, and from the East Stand side of the gate. It just looks very odd.I don’t know if you’re a mystic or a moron but see if you can get your deductive powers going and tell which one of the two I’d choose if I had to.
Next question?1 -
It’s good to see the thread is still running – which indicates the strength of feeling – but inevitably we are short on practical ideas for doing something about it. I do understand that when it comes to pushing back on the police people, for various reasons, feel a bit cowed. FWIW, here are some thoughts on how we could proceed.
I think we have maximum leverage if we, the fans are addressing the police directly as citizens.
The club, all clubs, will feel their hands are tied. They run a commercial business which requires active and extensive police cooperation, which nowadays is paid for by the taxpayer. When planning matches with the police, the voice of the fans is filtered,diluted, because it is presented by representatives of organised groups, who in turn need to maintain good relations with their club.
If, however, the police are addressed by a very large number of angry citizens, who among many other things in their lives, are football fans, the dynamic changes.
So the best way to do that is for the organised groups of fans (CAST, FAB, supporter clubs) to get together and make their own representation to the police. A clear set of demands (principally, hold back Milwall, not home fans) tabled, and with evidence that the groups have a mandate for these demands from their members. Ideally, as I’ve said before, MP Matt Pennycook should back the approach. If this is now happening at Palace and QPR we can reach out to their supporters‘ trusts too (I’ve got a long standing contact with QPR thanks to the Olympic Stadium Coalition, although you won’t be surprised to hear the Palace ST at the time were a useless flock of pathetic sheep).
Comments, please?
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I’ve made my point many times - what makes Millwall and this police force special ? Why does it happen nowhere else in the country and it is unacceptable - if that is asked by the fan groups mentioned above and answered, we may get somewhere - if it isn’t then they will go round and round in circles - as I said from the outset - use your voice properly CAST etc or don’t bother1
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You would think that it's one for the Trust to get involved with - and a bit more forcefully than they have to date.3
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Baldybonce said:
I suppose because the trouble at the millwall game was initiated from our side of the gate.Major said:
Totally agree. My first reaction was, 'Why are they all facing the wrong way'?Off_it said:
12 stewards - and all on the Charlton side of the fence, again. That's absolutely pathetic. Are they supposed to be looking intimidating or something? If so, to who - the old folk in the East Stand?TootingRedArmy said:
Well the wall of stewards at Gate 21 yesterday continues to grow with yellow and blue and red jackets with green jacketed superviser. Question when gate can be opened on the other side where are the stewards?
Yesterday looked like around 10 police around the control room in JS & WS corner, presume these are paid for by the club, why aren't they standing in Away end?
Question for club and police is JS stand a Police No Go zone with Millwall fans?
I'm trying to think if there are other areas parts of UK which are Police No Go zones?
where they don't go as it may agiate the public or sit and wait 4 minutes before responding?
worrying response from the police why they stood back from arresting the Millwall fans attacking Charlton fans at Gate 21, would police stand back for 4 minutes when someone is attacked in a street? bank is raided?
No one has been able to answer what 300 police actually did or where they were at Millwall game or what it cost? How many were just sat in white vans doing nothing?
I was walking down the hill yesterday before turning off to walk towards the Sam Bartrum gate @ 2.15pm, five white vans with sirens blaring came down the hill in the direction of Royal Oak, was there trouble?
This is a show of 'look we're doing something'.
The stewards in future for 'risk' games should be some either side of the gate.
Police instead of stewards would be an awful lot better.
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For Millwall sure but for most games a few stewards is more than enough there, they just need to be prepared to hold the gate closedElfsborgAddick said:Baldybonce said:
I suppose because the trouble at the millwall game was initiated from our side of the gate.Major said:
Totally agree. My first reaction was, 'Why are they all facing the wrong way'?Off_it said:
12 stewards - and all on the Charlton side of the fence, again. That's absolutely pathetic. Are they supposed to be looking intimidating or something? If so, to who - the old folk in the East Stand?TootingRedArmy said:
Well the wall of stewards at Gate 21 yesterday continues to grow with yellow and blue and red jackets with green jacketed superviser. Question when gate can be opened on the other side where are the stewards?
Yesterday looked like around 10 police around the control room in JS & WS corner, presume these are paid for by the club, why aren't they standing in Away end?
Question for club and police is JS stand a Police No Go zone with Millwall fans?
I'm trying to think if there are other areas parts of UK which are Police No Go zones?
where they don't go as it may agiate the public or sit and wait 4 minutes before responding?
worrying response from the police why they stood back from arresting the Millwall fans attacking Charlton fans at Gate 21, would police stand back for 4 minutes when someone is attacked in a street? bank is raided?
No one has been able to answer what 300 police actually did or where they were at Millwall game or what it cost? How many were just sat in white vans doing nothing?
I was walking down the hill yesterday before turning off to walk towards the Sam Bartrum gate @ 2.15pm, five white vans with sirens blaring came down the hill in the direction of Royal Oak, was there trouble?
This is a show of 'look we're doing something'.
The stewards in future for 'risk' games should be some either side of the gate.
Police instead of stewards would be an awful lot better.0 -
DOUCHER said:I’ve made my point many times - what makes Millwall and this police force special ? Why does it happen nowhere else in the country and it is unacceptable - if that is asked by the fan groups mentioned above and answered, we may get somewhere - if it isn’t then they will go round and round in circles - as I said from the outset - use your voice properly CAST etc or don’t botherSince our game, the games with palice and QPR have both shown that home fans have been inconvenienced. HOWEVER, that does not change the fact that the layout of our ground is a recipe for disaster with congestion, this cannot be argued in any shape or form.Pay the police bill and keep the spanners in the ground, simple.PS, the club have treated us like s*** in so many ways with this game.1
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Off_it said:You would think that it's one for the Trust to get involved with - and a bit more forcefully than they have to date.
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I would like them to; however they may feel constrained by the fact that they sit in meetings with the police alongside the club. To make the point more forcibly they might need to make it clear that they are in this case acting independently from the club, and may need a mandate from their members for such a move. And I don't see why they should be left alone to do this. They should have alongside them the Fan Advisory Board (the fact that one of them co-chaired the meeting with the club is the first evidence I have seen that they actually still exist, since they were formed). And other supporter groups too. Then they can collectively claim that they speak on behalf of at least 3,000 registered fans.Off_it said:You would think that it's one for the Trust to get involved with - and a bit more forcefully than they have to date.0 -
Sorry to be a pedant but we do not have a Fan Advisory Board, we have an Advisory Board. I know it seems like a small difference but it is a significant one, not everyone on that board represents fans/a fan groupPragueAddick said:
I would like them to; however they may feel constrained by the fact that they sit in meetings with the police alongside the club. To make the point more forcibly they might need to make it clear that they are in this case acting independently from the club, and may need a mandate from their members for such a move. And I don't see why they should be left alone to do this. They should have alongside them the Fan Advisory Board (the fact that one of them co-chaired the meeting with the club is the first evidence I have seen that they actually still exist, since they were formed). And other supporter groups too. Then they can collectively claim that they speak on behalf of at least 3,000 registered fans.Off_it said:You would think that it's one for the Trust to get involved with - and a bit more forcefully than they have to date.1 -
OK. Well we have two fans on there who were directly voted on there by us. Presumably they are there because they are seen to represent a somehow different constituency of the fanbase than CAST (if not, I don't really see the point of them). So if that's the case then by joining in they widen the base of fans (aka citizens) who have an issue to address with the police.fenaddick said:
Sorry to be a pedant but we do not have a Fan Advisory Board, we have an Advisory Board. I know it seems like a small difference but it is a significant one, not everyone on that board represents fans/a fan groupPragueAddick said:
I would like them to; however they may feel constrained by the fact that they sit in meetings with the police alongside the club. To make the point more forcibly they might need to make it clear that they are in this case acting independently from the club, and may need a mandate from their members for such a move. And I don't see why they should be left alone to do this. They should have alongside them the Fan Advisory Board (the fact that one of them co-chaired the meeting with the club is the first evidence I have seen that they actually still exist, since they were formed). And other supporter groups too. Then they can collectively claim that they speak on behalf of at least 3,000 registered fans.Off_it said:You would think that it's one for the Trust to get involved with - and a bit more forcefully than they have to date.0 -
Its worth reading minutes from this meeting....5th item about Millwall game.
https://www.charltonafc.com/news/supporter-forum-october-2025
Five spoke, three from club and two for supporters.....EW – Ed Warrick – Chief Financial and Operations Officer and Board Member,ME – Mick Everett – Head of Matchday safetyJB – Jon Blythe – Head of Operations,HA – Heather Alderson – Charlton Athletic Supporters’ Trust (CAST),PC – Peter Catlin – East Kent Addicks,
In a nutshell police decide how to police high profile games, they decide if Millwall fans leave or are shut in.
The club saying they are powerless to change this (really?)
Police don't do anything when Charlton fans are attacked at Gate 21 as by time their organised its over?
Two fans do question why etc...but looking at minutes there are 15 fans in attendance (2 chairs, rest fan reps)
what is also interesting is TR – Tom Rubashow – Head of External Relations,
says nothing about communication, before, during or post match or has anything to add in this part of the meeting?
also why didn't two chairs say anything?
Chairs: LB – Lucy Bishop – Charlton Athletic Fan Advocate, LC – Lewis Catt – Charlton Athletic Fan Advocate.
Lastly where are results of the survey which was issued following the Millwall match?2 -
But the club seems to not want to pay for police inside the ground .Talking to other fans at the Wednesday game, a few asked why did a group of our fans go down the steps and start the trouble by goading them ,I thought it was only 2 of our fans but apparently it was about 20ElfsborgAddick said:Baldybonce said:
I suppose because the trouble at the millwall game was initiated from our side of the gate.Major said:
Totally agree. My first reaction was, 'Why are they all facing the wrong way'?Off_it said:
12 stewards - and all on the Charlton side of the fence, again. That's absolutely pathetic. Are they supposed to be looking intimidating or something? If so, to who - the old folk in the East Stand?TootingRedArmy said:
Well the wall of stewards at Gate 21 yesterday continues to grow with yellow and blue and red jackets with green jacketed superviser. Question when gate can be opened on the other side where are the stewards?
Yesterday looked like around 10 police around the control room in JS & WS corner, presume these are paid for by the club, why aren't they standing in Away end?
Question for club and police is JS stand a Police No Go zone with Millwall fans?
I'm trying to think if there are other areas parts of UK which are Police No Go zones?
where they don't go as it may agiate the public or sit and wait 4 minutes before responding?
worrying response from the police why they stood back from arresting the Millwall fans attacking Charlton fans at Gate 21, would police stand back for 4 minutes when someone is attacked in a street? bank is raided?
No one has been able to answer what 300 police actually did or where they were at Millwall game or what it cost? How many were just sat in white vans doing nothing?
I was walking down the hill yesterday before turning off to walk towards the Sam Bartrum gate @ 2.15pm, five white vans with sirens blaring came down the hill in the direction of Royal Oak, was there trouble?
This is a show of 'look we're doing something'.
The stewards in future for 'risk' games should be some either side of the gate.
Police instead of stewards would be an awful lot better.0 -
To which they have done absolutely nothing to investigate and deal with the main perpetrator…..so exactly who was the Spanner in black???Uboat said:This wording is bizarre:
‘He said the police started to organise themselves to go there but it was resolved before they were needed.’resolved’ as in a violent crime has been committed.0 -
So has the Millwall fan who attacked the charlton fan (who was trying to reason with millwall fans) Arrested?
Social media showed footage of what happened and club have CCTV footage?
from minutes .....
https://www.charltonafc.com/news/supporter-forum-october-2025
EW said the club upgraded its CCTV system in the summer, so the club had shared footage with the police of those involved in the disorder. EW said some people within the stadium witnessed things that we do not wish people witness at the club’s home. He said that it is important that people feel safe at The Valley. EW said the club had been asked why police weren’t involved in the incident at Gate 21. EW said the police were in the club’s control room and by the time they had reviewed whether they’d intervene or not, the need for their intervention had dissipated. EW said the police make operational decisions on whether they intervene based on experience. ME said he’d read stuff on social media about the management of the gate incident that wasn’t true.
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