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Scrap The International Break

AddickFC81
AddickFC81 Posts: 4,053
edited October 2012 in Other Football and Sports
It has been common for many seasons now in the top two leagues that everytime there is a round of international qualifiers for either World Cup or Euros the seasons stop for two full weeks. I personally think that this should stop. Not the qualifiers or the World Cup or Euros but stopping the league when the qualifiers are on.

Firstly from a Charlton perpective, if we lose to Blackpool on Saturday we have to wait two weeks before putting having a chance to put things and getting it out the system. If we draw which on paper would not be a bad result at Blackpool but would probably leave us lagging further behind other teams just above us again there is the wait. A win would be great but then having just go a bit of momentum would leave having to wait two weeks to build on it. It would also free up 3 midweek fixtures.

Secondly from a football point of view, with the Premier League season finishing so late not and having to fit the FA Cup Final into a weekend when there are league fixtures it makes it stupid. If the fixtures played later in May were moved to those international weekends then the Cup Final would still be tradional and the season could finish in time.

Now I know the higher you go up the more internation players you've got but if the Prem scrapped the 25 man squad rule then it leaves bigger squad and on those days of internations I think squads are still big enough and it would give younger fringe players a chance to shine and keep the other players on their toes. At Charlton at the moment we could fit in most our first choice squad. But it could still work at Mans City & United, Chelsea, Arsenal, Liverpool level. Afterall in rugby union where teams are made of 15 players, 4 bigger than football, rugby carries on when a lot of rugby clubs lose their players to the Six Nations.

Such a measure would keep the game flowing across the season.

Comments

  • BigRedEvil
    BigRedEvil Posts: 11,069
    Think we need a break gets JJ and Fuller fitter and 2 weeks closer to having Wiggins and Kerms back. But I do hate international football just don't care for it unless it's a major championship
  • golfaddick
    golfaddick Posts: 33,615
    I think you'll find its a UEFA or even a FIFA rule and all the other leagues abide by it around Europe and that there will not be any Serie A or La liga games next weekend for example. Remember it only exists for the top 2 divisons in England so next season you wont have any problems..............
  • AddickFC81
    AddickFC81 Posts: 4,053

    Think we need a break gets JJ and Fuller fitter and 2 weeks closer to having Wiggins and Kerms back. But I do hate international football just don't care for it unless it's a major championship

    That's the only advantage of it...

    I think you'll find its a UEFA or even a FIFA rule and all the other leagues abide by it around Europe and that there will not be any Serie A or La liga games next weekend for example. Remember it only exists for the top 2 divisons in England so next season you wont have any problems..............

    That's the only upside of League 1


    But I'm sure it would help with fixture conjestion across the whole of of Europe though if something like this is re examined.
  • AdTheAddicK
    AdTheAddicK Posts: 3,379
    Christ i'm actually struggling to get up for this now !

    Thanks to the international break ! Scrap it !
  • jimmymelrose
    jimmymelrose Posts: 9,748
    Bump.

    When this thread was started, at least you had an England match at the weekend. Now’s there’s nothing. I hate weekends in the middle of the season with no football at all. It just feels so flat, even if I don’t watch a match, I like Final Score, sports reports and TV highlights.

    This international weekend is a weekend of nothing. They used to play Saturday / Sunday -Tuesday/ Wednesday so I think it’s got even more boring since the starting of this thread.

    I wish they’d introduce a preliminary round to the qualifiers, and then have qualifying groups of even numbers to prevent empty slots or friendlies for some teams.
  • CaptainRobbo
    CaptainRobbo Posts: 601
    Bored
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    Had to spend today with the missus going shopping 🛒 🛍️ 
  • golfaddick
    golfaddick Posts: 33,615
    Qualifying should be just for the top clubs. Stop letting teams like Andora, Lichtenstein, San Marino etc play. It benefits no-one.....not the big teams who rack up 6's & 7's and certainly not the little teams.

    Qualifying can then be between the 12 teams who usually finish in the top 2 and split into 4 groups of 3. Play just 4 games. It will make it more competitive as virtually every game will be a must win. 

    Wont ever happen because it's more down to inclusivity than actually playing meaningful games of football. 
  • bobmunro
    bobmunro Posts: 20,841
    Qualifying should be just for the top clubs. Stop letting teams like Andora, Lichtenstein, San Marino etc play. It benefits no-one.....not the big teams who rack up 6's & 7's and certainly not the little teams.

    Qualifying can then be between the 12 teams who usually finish in the top 2 and split into 4 groups of 3. Play just 4 games. It will make it more competitive as virtually every game will be a must win. 

    Wont ever happen because it's more down to inclusivity than actually playing meaningful games of football. 
    It gives those countries much needed revenue for their grass roots, and also keeps a dream alive for the minnows to play at stadiums like Wembley.
    Last time I looked it was called the WORLD Cup.

  • cafctom
    cafctom Posts: 11,364
    Fine as it is - the same way it has been for decades. 

    International football is so much more than just about pleasing people in England who are 'bored' at a weekend every now and then just because their club side isn't playing.

    It does wonders for the game the world over, and is one of the few areas of the sport that hasn't been completely manipulated by transfer fees and glory hunter fanbases.
  • shirty5
    shirty5 Posts: 19,215
    The fixtures came out in June. Plenty of time to arrange your time when the international breaks occur. 
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  • Henry Irving
    Henry Irving Posts: 85,211
    How short some memories are.

    It was only a few months ago we were a league one club wondering if we'd have enough call ups to cancel our game 

    Plenty of football still being played although watching Leagues 1 & 2 on SSN reminds me how happy I am that we're in the Championship.
  • DaveMehmet
    DaveMehmet Posts: 21,590
    I made the most of it. Went to Borough Market with my wife for brunch, then to The Tate Modern, got a few bits in the market for dinner and we’re now sitting in the garden getting slowly drunk. 
  • ValleyGary
    ValleyGary Posts: 37,973
    edited 4:46PM
    Get yourselves down and support your local on non Charlton weekends. Plenty of football about.
  • DaveMehmet
    DaveMehmet Posts: 21,590
    Get yourselves down and support your local on non Charlton weekends. Plenty of football about.
    Totally agree mate. Unfortunately welling didn’t have a game today 
  • Dave2l
    Dave2l Posts: 8,864
    edited 5:07PM
    I like the idea of all qualifiers being played within a small time frame. 

    Maybe all 8-10 games played after/before a season every other year.

    The players can at least form stronger bonds with each other.

    The qualifiers would be played once every 2 years when the world cup/euros aren't being played.

    Would give us plenty of time to fully prepare for a world Cup.

    International break is just a pain in the ass. I don't just mean for England fans.

    Friendlies would have to occur during a season, but maybe just once every 4/5 months 
  • Big William
    Big William Posts: 3,838
    They are here to stay I suppose, but they are generally bloody boring - no Charlton and endless one sided international matches/pointless friendlies. I was looking forward to the Serbia v England match as it might have been a contest, walked in before half time and it was already 3-0 to England.

    Bastards.
  • cblock
    cblock Posts: 1,959
    Just scrap meaningless tournaments and friendly games just for the sake of it.
  • swords_alive
    swords_alive Posts: 4,255
    edited 5:34PM
    Chelmsford had a cracking win in the cup, 4-3. I went to the library to do some studying and read some charlton life.
    International breaks serve as a good test as to where you've got to in life and I hate them.
  • jonseventyfive
    jonseventyfive Posts: 3,353
    Corby v Mickleover was our football feast for the day , 763 watched Mickleover win 1-0 , good burger and a nice pint.
  • Ross
    Ross Posts: 4,409
    From 2026, the traditional September and October windows will be combined into one extended block, with national teams permitted up to four fixtures across a 16-day camp. The November and March windows remain as two-match breaks.
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  • Chris_from_Sidcup
    Chris_from_Sidcup Posts: 35,994
    Ross said:
    From 2026, the traditional September and October windows will be combined into one extended block, with national teams permitted up to four fixtures across a 16-day camp. The November and March windows remain as two-match breaks.
    To be fair they could've just had all the qualifiers in one window in August before the start of the season. A 4 week window with all qualifiers then start the league seasons on 1 September when the transfer window has closed. Would also avoid club sides starting the season not knowing if some of their players might leave after 2-3 games.

    Some of the Euro groups are 6 games only, but they're spread across 3 international breaks. Could've just played those 6 games in 3 weeks, and for the groups with 8 games, in 4 weeks.

    The problem is that other continents play a lot more qualifiers so this wouldn't really help them.
  • Chris_from_Sidcup
    Chris_from_Sidcup Posts: 35,994
    That said i think this international break came at a good time for us after a few games in a short space of time as we looked tired at Preston. Gives most of our squad (Jamaicans excluded) a chance to rest up and recover.
  • jimmymelrose
    jimmymelrose Posts: 9,748
    cafctom said:
    Fine as it is - the same way it has been for decades. 

    International football is so much more than just about pleasing people in England who are 'bored' at a weekend every now and then just because their club side isn't playing.

    It does wonders for the game the world over, and is one of the few areas of the sport that hasn't been completely manipulated by transfer fees and glory hunter fanbases.
    No it isn’t. International breaks didn’t exist until this century. 
  • jimmymelrose
    jimmymelrose Posts: 9,748
    bobmunro said:
    Qualifying should be just for the top clubs. Stop letting teams like Andora, Lichtenstein, San Marino etc play. It benefits no-one.....not the big teams who rack up 6's & 7's and certainly not the little teams.

    Qualifying can then be between the 12 teams who usually finish in the top 2 and split into 4 groups of 3. Play just 4 games. It will make it more competitive as virtually every game will be a must win. 

    Wont ever happen because it's more down to inclusivity than actually playing meaningful games of football. 
    It gives those countries much needed revenue for their grass roots, and also keeps a dream alive for the minnows to play at stadiums like Wembley.
    Last time I looked it was called the WORLD Cup.


    They aren’t good reasons not to have preliminaries . Would you use your argument to get rid of the preliminary round in the FA Cup just so 17 stone Bob Jones, of the Dog and Duck, can fulfill his dream of playing at Arsenal in the 1st round of the FA Cup. A first round of 8,388,608 teams incidentally. 
  • Chris_from_Sidcup
    Chris_from_Sidcup Posts: 35,994
    There should definitely be a preliminary round. Use the Nations league group D as the way to qualify for the main draws.

    Let's be honest if Gibraltar and Liechtenstein can't finish above San Marino (who won one of the D groups) then they've got no business being in any main draws for tournaments.
  • Off_it
    Off_it Posts: 28,838
    Get yourselves down and support your local on non Charlton weekends. Plenty of football about.
    Totally agree mate. Unfortunately welling didn’t have a game today 
    I was thinking of going to a local non-league game with my son. But when we looked it seemed like all of the local clubs were either not playing or were away from home.
  • cafctom
    cafctom Posts: 11,364
    cafctom said:
    Fine as it is - the same way it has been for decades. 

    International football is so much more than just about pleasing people in England who are 'bored' at a weekend every now and then just because their club side isn't playing.

    It does wonders for the game the world over, and is one of the few areas of the sport that hasn't been completely manipulated by transfer fees and glory hunter fanbases.
    No it isn’t. International breaks didn’t exist until this century. 
    My comment was more in relation to the broader concept of international football rather than the way the breaks are organised.

    Either way, it’s still fine as it is. The importance of international football in the sport is far greater than alleviating someone’s boredom because EFL Championship games aren’t on. 
  • Croydon
    Croydon Posts: 12,725
    edited 8:59PM
    One thing that isn't being spoken about on here is the fact that for the second international break in a row, ITV aren't bothering with their EFL highlights show. Really hope they don't renew their deal 
  • iainment
    iainment Posts: 8,039
    I made the most of it. Went to Borough Market with my wife for brunch, then to The Tate Modern, got a few bits in the market for dinner and we’re now sitting in the garden getting slowly drunk. 
    I went to Tate Modern this week. Wonderful, those who haven’t been should go. The, marionette, film about the Crusades from an Arab perspective was great.