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Daniel Kanu - season long loan to Walsall (p21)

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  • Scoham said:
    sam3110 said:
    Good chop back to lose the defender before tucking it away 
    0:58 here https://www.skysports.com/football/video/30998/13435090/walsall-4-2-tranmere-rovers-league-two-highlights
    Lovely movement and finish
  • Will be doing his confidence no end of good.  Hopefully he keeps on banging them in.
  • billysboots
    billysboots Posts: 1,596
    Great finish 
  • MarcusH26
    MarcusH26 Posts: 8,029
    edited September 20
    I assume because he's already played for us and it's a season long loan we can't recall him at all? Which is for the best really. 
  • fenaddick
    fenaddick Posts: 10,986
    MarcusH26 said:
    I assume because he's already played for us and it's a season long loan we can't recall him at all? Which is for the best really. 
    Well we can but only to play for us which seems pointless 
  • CAFC_boi
    CAFC_boi Posts: 269
    Another class goal - still seems ridiculous we played him for 30 minutes in the cup which prevents him moving to league one in January - which would be a much better test of his ability. 
  • Cracking goal by young Daniel. Oozing confidence with that one
  • MarcusH26 said:
    I assume because he's already played for us and it's a season long loan we can't recall him at all? Which is for the best really. 
    Would have a small amount of sympathy for Walsall if that happened, after last season with losing Nathan Lowe after January.
  • MarcusH26
    MarcusH26 Posts: 8,029
    MarcusH26 said:
    I assume because he's already played for us and it's a season long loan we can't recall him at all? Which is for the best really. 
    Would have a small amount of sympathy for Walsall if that happened, after last season with losing Nathan Lowe after January.
    Nathan Lowe was the exact scenario I was thinking. Would be shit to have to do it, would rather he went for the Golden Boot at that level than come back and bench warm for us. 
  • billysboots
    billysboots Posts: 1,596
    Happened with his last loan at  Southend scored 4 in one game , we had injuries so we recalled him 
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  • MarcusH26 said:
    I assume because he's already played for us and it's a season long loan we can't recall him at all? Which is for the best really. 
    Would have a small amount of sympathy for Walsall if that happened, after last season with losing Nathan Lowe after January.
    Let him stay and build his confidence, can only be good for us in the long-term
  • soapboxsam
    soapboxsam Posts: 23,229
    edited September 20
    Daniel was really unlucky with his two ankle injuries which affected the 2nd half of last season.
    I have always been confident Kanu would score regularly in the EFL at either League 1 or 2 but he needed to play every week to get his career back on track.
    Moving to the Midlands and playing for a decent Walsall team looks a good loan.
  • Callumcafc
    Callumcafc Posts: 63,755
    edited September 20
    Lovely lovely goal - like it was never in doubt as soon as he got the ball
  • Lovely lovely goal - like it was never in doubt as soon as he got the ball
    Check out Mbick's finish too, looking good for our future stars
  • Callumcafc
    Callumcafc Posts: 63,755
    edited September 20
    https://upthesaddlers.com/t/w-4-2-vs-tranmere-rovers-h-sat-20th-sept-3-00pm-league-two/13179/151

    Comments like “superb signing”, don’t fall in love”, “15 weeks until January”…
  • Sounds like they aren’t aware he can’t be loaned to league one so seems therefore almost 100pc unlikely he would be recalled 
  • jose
    jose Posts: 618
    Daniel was ridiculously prolific against his peers whilst coming through the ranks (like Patrick Casey has been actually), and sometimes it takes a while to be playing against age group peers in first teams.
    As always, and as Steve Brown said on our commentary yesterday, the hardest leap of all is youth to first teamer.
    However I know it is stating the obvious, but every good player was a youth player initially, I mean good players have to start off somewhere don’t they?
    Daniel Kanu is on that path.
    I notice with interest that Mason Burstow scored a banger yesterday, and of course our Micha.
    It is without a doubt in my mind that nurturing a great academy is both our USP and the way to go if you can’t spend millions on signings. Right now credible players that have come through and are ready for first team action somewhere decent are Mitchell, Maynard Brewer, Asiimwe, Kanu, M’bick, TC, Miles, Fullah and Anderson (who am I forgetting?).
    Kanu coming through was a goal machine, and he will be a very good credible goalscorer in the future.
  • Addick Addict
    Addick Addict Posts: 39,757
    I want him to see out the season because I think that it will do him so much good in the way it did Grant at Crawley (but also, selfishly, for the bets I've had on him).

    Is there one scenario, though, where he could leave Walsall in January? One where at the turn of the year we are struggling to find the net and/or Godden and another striker is out injured and we feel we need him to become part of our match day squad. He also offers us something a bit different to the others we have on the books. Clarification re the possibility of that happening would be handy. 
  • fenaddick
    fenaddick Posts: 10,986
    I want him to see out the season because I think that it will do him so much good in the way it did Grant at Crawley (but also, selfishly, for the bets I've had on him).

    Is there one scenario, though, where he could leave Walsall in January? One where at the turn of the year we are struggling to find the net and/or Godden and another striker is out injured and we feel we need him to become part of our match day squad. He also offers us something a bit different to the others we have on the books. Clarification re the possibility of that happening would be handy. 
    Yes it’s possible he comes back here but it’s unlikely. It’s what Walsall fans are concerned about after what happened with Stoke last year
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  • Addick Addict
    Addick Addict Posts: 39,757
    fenaddick said:
    I want him to see out the season because I think that it will do him so much good in the way it did Grant at Crawley (but also, selfishly, for the bets I've had on him).

    Is there one scenario, though, where he could leave Walsall in January? One where at the turn of the year we are struggling to find the net and/or Godden and another striker is out injured and we feel we need him to become part of our match day squad. He also offers us something a bit different to the others we have on the books. Clarification re the possibility of that happening would be handy. 
    Yes it’s possible he comes back here but it’s unlikely. It’s what Walsall fans are concerned about after what happened with Stoke last year
    In which case it's still a bit of a head scratcher as it why he remains do under the bookies' radar. Only BetVictor have re-priced their book but they have him now at 25/1 (1/4 odds 1-4). They have Cheek at 3/1.

    Cheek's record at that level is there for all to see. However, at the same stage, after Walsall's 9th league games last season Nathan Lowe had 2 goals whereas Cheek had 6 goals. Cheek would probably have been 3/1 again and Lowe probably 50/1 - Cheek finished with 25 goals whereas at the time Lowe left, following Walsall's game on 11th January, he had 15 goals in 22 games with Walsall still having another 22 matches to play. 

    There are a couple of advantages that Kanu has over Lowe too. Kanu is a year older and has more experience of playing and scoring goals whereas Lowe had just 2 league goals to his name when he arrived at Walsall last season. 

    Weight of money does also have a factor but the fact remains that Kanu is a single goal behind Cheek and is more than 8 times the price. If you had £20 at 3/1 on Cheek and £10 EW at 25/1 on Kanu, you will get almost as good a return for Kanu finishing 4th as you will for Cheek winning it. Betting is all about doing so at the right price and recognising when the traders have it wrong. They don't do it often and will rarely do so on a Premier League market because so much information is out there. The lower you go, the less they know.  I have already been in twice at 50/1 but will wait to see what the others now offer once they've re-opened their books. 
  • fenaddick
    fenaddick Posts: 10,986
    I am no expert in betting AA as I avoid it like the plague (it wouldn’t mix well with my addictive personality!) but I imagine it’s as simple as someone like Cheek having more of a track record and name recognition. If you look at Kanu’s numbers in the cold light of day his goals per game ratio isn’t particularly impressive but that doesn’t take into account he’s been playing above his current level. I assume he’ll be worth a flutter and you’ll make a decent amount off him 
  • IdleHans
    IdleHans Posts: 10,957
    DK shortened to 33/1 on bob's lot
  • fenaddick
    fenaddick Posts: 10,986
    clive said:
    Following Daniel winning this he’s been interviewed by NTT20 
  • NabySarr
    NabySarr Posts: 4,284
    Interview with Kanu on the NTT20 podcast talking about his award. Comes across really well as you’d expect 
  • Scoham
    Scoham Posts: 37,371
    NabySarr said:
    Interview with Kanu on the NTT20 podcast talking about his award. Comes across really well as you’d expect 
    I thought the same in his interview when he joined Walsall, speaks so well for his age.

    One of those players I think will make the most of his ability, I imagine he puts in the same effort off the pitch as he does on it.