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  • WiganAddick
    WiganAddick Posts: 12
    Nowt on website yet! will be bagging the blue when its on!
  • fenaddick
    fenaddick Posts: 11,769
    WiganAddick said:
    Nowt on website yet! will be bagging the blue when its on!
    https://clubshop.cafc.co.uk/products/1991-92-woolwich-blue-away-shirt68919e07c9156247eb1abd97
  • Henry Irving
    Henry Irving Posts: 85,324
    Based on the originals loaned from the museum o
  • gringo
    gringo Posts: 635
    edited October 3
    Henry Irving said:
    Based on the originals loaned from the museum o
    well they got the FADS one completely wrong, their sponsors logo is just plain white. 
  • gringo
    gringo Posts: 635
    TelMc32 said:
    clive said:
    Two new Charlton Athletic retro shirts will go on sale today! 
    Both shirts are priced at £45 and go on sale at the below times: 
        •    Online: Available from 12pm on Friday, October 3rd via the official club shop website. Click here from 12pm to purchase yours online!
        •    In-store: Available from 12pm on Friday, October 3rd at The Valley Superstore
        •    Bluewater pop-up store: Available from 9am on Saturday, October 4th

    https://www.charltonafc.com/news/two-new-retro-shirts-sale-today
    That blue shirt left me scarred…almost literally! Wore it when playing in a game with work at Fisher Athletic many, many years ago. It was a night of absolute torrential rain, which didn’t work very well with the polyester of the shirt. The first O in Woolwich and the C turned red as the wet shirt rubbed my nipples and left them bleeding!!  Bloody painful for days after 🫣😱😬😂
    think you should sue the Woolwich for compo.
  • Elthamaddick
    Elthamaddick Posts: 15,870
    neither as good as the Osca ones in there
  • Talal
    Talal Posts: 11,524
    Elthamaddick said:
    neither as good as the Osca ones in there
    I think being able to use the Osca logo makes a big difference. Can't be helped but these just don't look great with a big empty space.
  • killerandflash
    killerandflash Posts: 70,036
    With these retro shirts, do they have to ask permission to use the sponsors logo?

    As it happens, most of our former sponsors no longer exist, but someone may still own the logo. Barclays own The Woolwich for example.
  • shine166
    shine166 Posts: 13,938
    edited October 3
    Yeah these 2 look like temu knockoffs, 2 stripes instead of 3 is a bovvy market special.
  • Red_Raver
    Red_Raver Posts: 467
    Would be nice if they could properly restock this season's kits. Haven't seen the away or third shirts in adult sizes for months :neutral:

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  • ElfsborgAddick
    ElfsborgAddick Posts: 29,245
    edited October 3
    shine166 said:
    Yeah these 2 look like temu knockoffs, 2 stripes instead of 3 is a bovvy market special.

    I am glad you have mentioned that, I thought it was only me.  I didn't buy them when they came out last time because of this, I would have bought both home and away last time if they were the 'proper' retro.
    For the life of me I do not know why the full amount of stripes are not used.
  • Talal
    Talal Posts: 11,524
    ElfsborgAddick said:
    shine166 said:
    Yeah these 2 look like temu knockoffs, 2 stripes instead of 3 is a bovvy market special.

    I am glad you have mentioned that, I thought it was only me.  I didn't buy them when they came out last time because of this, I would have bought both home and away last time if they were the 'proper' retro.
    For the life of me I do not know why the full amount of stripes are not used.
    Adidas wouldn't be best pleased. Obviously doesn't stop knock offs like red robins retro doing it but not something the club would want to try.
  • shine166
    shine166 Posts: 13,938
    Red_Raver said:
    Would be nice if they could properly restock this season's kits. Haven't seen the away or third shirts in adult sizes for months :neutral:
    Still waiting on kids sizes that have never been available at all. 
  • Rothko
    Rothko Posts: 18,829
    edited October 3
    The Admiral brand still very much exists and they do there own retro range

    https://admiralsports.com/collections/retro?page=2
  • shine166
    shine166 Posts: 13,938
    Rothko said:
    The Admiral brand still very much exists and they do there own retro range

    https://admiralsports.com/collections/retro?page=2
    They look quality, wonder if we reached out for a collab at all. 
  • Diebythesword
    Diebythesword Posts: 365
    Picked up a blue the Woolwich shirt. Would prefer they stock the red ones again tbh. 
  • sammy391
    sammy391 Posts: 3,800
    shine166 said:
    Rothko said:
    The Admiral brand still very much exists and they do there own retro range

    https://admiralsports.com/collections/retro?page=2
    They look quality, wonder if we reached out for a collab at all. 
    They were in discussions with the club a while back, but presumably the club found they could do it cheaper without! 

    Ironically, Admiral actually make a lot of the merch for Barcelona, Madrid and other top teams- just as unbranded though 
  • ElfsborgAddick
    ElfsborgAddick Posts: 29,245
    Talal said:
    ElfsborgAddick said:
    shine166 said:
    Yeah these 2 look like temu knockoffs, 2 stripes instead of 3 is a bovvy market special.

    I am glad you have mentioned that, I thought it was only me.  I didn't buy them when they came out last time because of this, I would have bought both home and away last time if they were the 'proper' retro.
    For the life of me I do not know why the full amount of stripes are not used.
    Adidas wouldn't be best pleased. Obviously doesn't stop knock offs like red robins retro doing it but not something the club would want to try.

    Other clubs produce the Adidas retro with the correct amount of stripes, so why can't we?  A shame.
  • ElfsborgAddick
    ElfsborgAddick Posts: 29,245
    Rothko said:
    The Admiral brand still very much exists and they do there own retro range

    https://admiralsports.com/collections/retro?page=2

    The Admiral tops in the 70s and 80s were fantastic.  I still think the Coventry tops with Talbot as a sponsor were one of the best of all time.  I particularly liked the brown away top.
  • killerandflash
    killerandflash Posts: 70,036
    Rothko said:
    The Admiral brand still very much exists and they do there own retro range

    https://admiralsports.com/collections/retro?page=2
    That West Ham 76-80 shirt is nice. The wording mentions Hammers legends like Bonds, Lampard and Brooking who wore the shirt, but the photo is of someone even more familiar to us!



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  • Talal
    Talal Posts: 11,524
    edited October 3
    ElfsborgAddick said:
    Talal said:
    ElfsborgAddick said:
    shine166 said:
    Yeah these 2 look like temu knockoffs, 2 stripes instead of 3 is a bovvy market special.

    I am glad you have mentioned that, I thought it was only me.  I didn't buy them when they came out last time because of this, I would have bought both home and away last time if they were the 'proper' retro.
    For the life of me I do not know why the full amount of stripes are not used.
    Adidas wouldn't be best pleased. Obviously doesn't stop knock offs like red robins retro doing it but not something the club would want to try.

    Other clubs produce the Adidas retro with the correct amount of stripes, so why can't we?  A shame.
    Presumably Adidas are involved in that. I haven't checked but might be clubs that are currently supplied by them.
  • ElfsborgAddick
    ElfsborgAddick Posts: 29,245
    edited October 3
    Talal said:
    ElfsborgAddick said:
    Talal said:
    ElfsborgAddick said:
    shine166 said:
    Yeah these 2 look like temu knockoffs, 2 stripes instead of 3 is a bovvy market special.

    I am glad you have mentioned that, I thought it was only me.  I didn't buy them when they came out last time because of this, I would have bought both home and away last time if they were the 'proper' retro.
    For the life of me I do not know why the full amount of stripes are not used.
    Adidas wouldn't be best pleased. Obviously doesn't stop knock offs like red robins retro doing it but not something the club would want to try.

    Other clubs produce the Adidas retro with the correct amount of stripes, so why can't we?  A shame.
    Presumably Adidas are involved in that. I haven't checked but might be clubs that are currently supplied by them.
    These have the correct amount of stripes but may be a snide.





  • fenaddick
    fenaddick Posts: 11,769
    ElfsborgAddick said:
    Talal said:
    ElfsborgAddick said:
    Talal said:
    ElfsborgAddick said:
    shine166 said:
    Yeah these 2 look like temu knockoffs, 2 stripes instead of 3 is a bovvy market special.

    I am glad you have mentioned that, I thought it was only me.  I didn't buy them when they came out last time because of this, I would have bought both home and away last time if they were the 'proper' retro.
    For the life of me I do not know why the full amount of stripes are not used.
    Adidas wouldn't be best pleased. Obviously doesn't stop knock offs like red robins retro doing it but not something the club would want to try.

    Other clubs produce the Adidas retro with the correct amount of stripes, so why can't we?  A shame.
    Presumably Adidas are involved in that. I haven't checked but might be clubs that are currently supplied by them.
    This has the correct amount of stripes but may be a snide.



    That isn't official Man Utd stuff and even if it was their current contract is Adidas anyway so the 3 stripes wouldn't be an issue
  • sam3110
    sam3110 Posts: 21,390
    Adidas come down incredibly hard on anyone using the 3 stripes without their consent/knowledge
  • ElfsborgAddick
    ElfsborgAddick Posts: 29,245
    fenaddick said:
    ElfsborgAddick said:
    Talal said:
    ElfsborgAddick said:
    Talal said:
    ElfsborgAddick said:
    shine166 said:
    Yeah these 2 look like temu knockoffs, 2 stripes instead of 3 is a bovvy market special.

    I am glad you have mentioned that, I thought it was only me.  I didn't buy them when they came out last time because of this, I would have bought both home and away last time if they were the 'proper' retro.
    For the life of me I do not know why the full amount of stripes are not used.
    Adidas wouldn't be best pleased. Obviously doesn't stop knock offs like red robins retro doing it but not something the club would want to try.

    Other clubs produce the Adidas retro with the correct amount of stripes, so why can't we?  A shame.
    Presumably Adidas are involved in that. I haven't checked but might be clubs that are currently supplied by them.
    This has the correct amount of stripes but may be a snide.



    That isn't official Man Utd stuff and even if it was their current contract is Adidas anyway so the 3 stripes wouldn't be an issue

    So have I read your post correctly, in that we should be able to produce the full amount of stripes?
  • fenaddick
    fenaddick Posts: 11,769
    ElfsborgAddick said:
    fenaddick said:
    ElfsborgAddick said:
    Talal said:
    ElfsborgAddick said:
    Talal said:
    ElfsborgAddick said:
    shine166 said:
    Yeah these 2 look like temu knockoffs, 2 stripes instead of 3 is a bovvy market special.

    I am glad you have mentioned that, I thought it was only me.  I didn't buy them when they came out last time because of this, I would have bought both home and away last time if they were the 'proper' retro.
    For the life of me I do not know why the full amount of stripes are not used.
    Adidas wouldn't be best pleased. Obviously doesn't stop knock offs like red robins retro doing it but not something the club would want to try.

    Other clubs produce the Adidas retro with the correct amount of stripes, so why can't we?  A shame.
    Presumably Adidas are involved in that. I haven't checked but might be clubs that are currently supplied by them.
    This has the correct amount of stripes but may be a snide.



    That isn't official Man Utd stuff and even if it was their current contract is Adidas anyway so the 3 stripes wouldn't be an issue

    So have I read your post correctly, in that we should be able to produce the full amount of stripes?
    No you’ve completely missed the point. Man Utd could do it if they wanted because Adidas make their kits. We can’t because Reebok make ours, not Adidas 
  • ElfsborgAddick
    ElfsborgAddick Posts: 29,245
    fenaddick said:
    ElfsborgAddick said:
    fenaddick said:
    ElfsborgAddick said:
    Talal said:
    ElfsborgAddick said:
    Talal said:
    ElfsborgAddick said:
    shine166 said:
    Yeah these 2 look like temu knockoffs, 2 stripes instead of 3 is a bovvy market special.

    I am glad you have mentioned that, I thought it was only me.  I didn't buy them when they came out last time because of this, I would have bought both home and away last time if they were the 'proper' retro.
    For the life of me I do not know why the full amount of stripes are not used.
    Adidas wouldn't be best pleased. Obviously doesn't stop knock offs like red robins retro doing it but not something the club would want to try.

    Other clubs produce the Adidas retro with the correct amount of stripes, so why can't we?  A shame.
    Presumably Adidas are involved in that. I haven't checked but might be clubs that are currently supplied by them.
    This has the correct amount of stripes but may be a snide.



    That isn't official Man Utd stuff and even if it was their current contract is Adidas anyway so the 3 stripes wouldn't be an issue

    So have I read your post correctly, in that we should be able to produce the full amount of stripes?
    No you’ve completely missed the point. Man Utd could do it if they wanted because Adidas make their kits. We can’t because Reebok make ours, not Adidas 

    Aha, thank you.
    So then it comes down to a copyright issue, thus the lack of all the stripes?
  • fenaddick
    fenaddick Posts: 11,769
    ElfsborgAddick said:
    fenaddick said:
    ElfsborgAddick said:
    fenaddick said:
    ElfsborgAddick said:
    Talal said:
    ElfsborgAddick said:
    Talal said:
    ElfsborgAddick said:
    shine166 said:
    Yeah these 2 look like temu knockoffs, 2 stripes instead of 3 is a bovvy market special.

    I am glad you have mentioned that, I thought it was only me.  I didn't buy them when they came out last time because of this, I would have bought both home and away last time if they were the 'proper' retro.
    For the life of me I do not know why the full amount of stripes are not used.
    Adidas wouldn't be best pleased. Obviously doesn't stop knock offs like red robins retro doing it but not something the club would want to try.

    Other clubs produce the Adidas retro with the correct amount of stripes, so why can't we?  A shame.
    Presumably Adidas are involved in that. I haven't checked but might be clubs that are currently supplied by them.
    This has the correct amount of stripes but may be a snide.



    That isn't official Man Utd stuff and even if it was their current contract is Adidas anyway so the 3 stripes wouldn't be an issue

    So have I read your post correctly, in that we should be able to produce the full amount of stripes?
    No you’ve completely missed the point. Man Utd could do it if they wanted because Adidas make their kits. We can’t because Reebok make ours, not Adidas 

    Aha, thank you.
    So then it comes down to a copyright issue, thus the lack of all the stripes?
    Correct
  • ElfsborgAddick
    ElfsborgAddick Posts: 29,245
    fenaddick said:
    ElfsborgAddick said:
    fenaddick said:
    ElfsborgAddick said:
    fenaddick said:
    ElfsborgAddick said:
    Talal said:
    ElfsborgAddick said:
    Talal said:
    ElfsborgAddick said:
    shine166 said:
    Yeah these 2 look like temu knockoffs, 2 stripes instead of 3 is a bovvy market special.

    I am glad you have mentioned that, I thought it was only me.  I didn't buy them when they came out last time because of this, I would have bought both home and away last time if they were the 'proper' retro.
    For the life of me I do not know why the full amount of stripes are not used.
    Adidas wouldn't be best pleased. Obviously doesn't stop knock offs like red robins retro doing it but not something the club would want to try.

    Other clubs produce the Adidas retro with the correct amount of stripes, so why can't we?  A shame.
    Presumably Adidas are involved in that. I haven't checked but might be clubs that are currently supplied by them.
    This has the correct amount of stripes but may be a snide.



    That isn't official Man Utd stuff and even if it was their current contract is Adidas anyway so the 3 stripes wouldn't be an issue

    So have I read your post correctly, in that we should be able to produce the full amount of stripes?
    No you’ve completely missed the point. Man Utd could do it if they wanted because Adidas make their kits. We can’t because Reebok make ours, not Adidas 

    Aha, thank you.
    So then it comes down to a copyright issue, thus the lack of all the stripes?
    Correct

    Again, thank you.
    Am I right in thinking that if a kit manufacturer no longer exists then you can produce the exact one again?
  • fenaddick
    fenaddick Posts: 11,769
    ElfsborgAddick said:
    fenaddick said:
    ElfsborgAddick said:
    fenaddick said:
    ElfsborgAddick said:
    fenaddick said:
    ElfsborgAddick said:
    Talal said:
    ElfsborgAddick said:
    Talal said:
    ElfsborgAddick said:
    shine166 said:
    Yeah these 2 look like temu knockoffs, 2 stripes instead of 3 is a bovvy market special.

    I am glad you have mentioned that, I thought it was only me.  I didn't buy them when they came out last time because of this, I would have bought both home and away last time if they were the 'proper' retro.
    For the life of me I do not know why the full amount of stripes are not used.
    Adidas wouldn't be best pleased. Obviously doesn't stop knock offs like red robins retro doing it but not something the club would want to try.

    Other clubs produce the Adidas retro with the correct amount of stripes, so why can't we?  A shame.
    Presumably Adidas are involved in that. I haven't checked but might be clubs that are currently supplied by them.
    This has the correct amount of stripes but may be a snide.



    That isn't official Man Utd stuff and even if it was their current contract is Adidas anyway so the 3 stripes wouldn't be an issue

    So have I read your post correctly, in that we should be able to produce the full amount of stripes?
    No you’ve completely missed the point. Man Utd could do it if they wanted because Adidas make their kits. We can’t because Reebok make ours, not Adidas 

    Aha, thank you.
    So then it comes down to a copyright issue, thus the lack of all the stripes?
    Correct

    Again, thank you.
    Am I right in thinking that if a kit manufacturer no longer exists then you can produce the exact one again?
    Yes, which is what the club have done previously. I assume that's why we've also been reproducing kits with defunct sponsors (even if someone technically owns it as pointed out above. Barclays are highly unlikely to sue us for us of a logo they would never use anyway)

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