Two things I noticed about Bree, watching back the highlights today:
- After Carey scores, despite him screaming for the pass in an open position to carry on the attack, he goes mental celebrating and runs straight over to him, and is the first man there.
- After he scores the third, he doesn't do much by way of celebration, and goes STRAIGHT over to Greg Docherty to hug him for the assist.
That feels like exactly the sort of character you want at your club. I am not usually one to set my stall out this early on a loanee but we should sign him permanently at the earliest available opportunity.
Southampton paid £750k for Bree from Luton two and a half years ago when NJ was manager.
He played 27 games last season in the Premier League including 90 minutes in a 0-0 draw with Man City in May.
We are 7th and Southampton are 19th and they haven't won since the opening game of the season.
He looks class both defending and going forward.
Either we're missing something or Will Still is. Well actually he is. Goes by the name of James Bree.
Bree's out of contract at the end of the season so we should be saying to Southampton that you can either take £100,000 from us in January or we'll sign him in June on a free. And just in case they have any doubt that he wants to come to us, let's remind them of what he said on joining us:
Bree is now enjoying his third spell under Nathan Jones, who signed the versatile defender for both Luton Town and Southampton previously.
"Obviously it came down to the last day and it was something that came about quite late for me and for the gaffer as well," explained Bree. "I think he was waiting for me to become available and I did with a couple of days left. Once we started speaking I was always confident that we were going to get it through and thankfully we did.
"To be fair to the gaffer I think he'd have been raging at me if I went anywhere else! He's been a massive influence on my career so far and I think I've played my best football underneath him. I enjoy working with him, I know how he works and what he likes to do and I think that suits me really well. Once I had the chance to work with him again it was something that I wanted to do."
Have to make sure we make it permanent in January, wouldn’t exactly fancy competing with half the other championship teams in the division to make it permanent in the summer. Whatever fee it would cost in January it’s worth as it probably would cost that in a signing on fee as a free agent alone
I just can't believe the loan isn't a quick fix in limited time and the transfer isn't already agreed to go through in January. Jones is too thorough for that not to be the case.
Hope we sign him but I wonder what % of his wages we are paying and what he expects going forwards. He clearly loves working with NJ but I can't help feel his wage expectations may be out of our range longer term.
Hope we sign him but I wonder what % of his wages we are paying and what he expects going forwards. He clearly loves working with NJ but I can't help feel his wage expectations may be out of our range longer term.
I get the feeling he's the type of person that is not in it just for the money as some others are. Sometimes feeling at home and loved by the fans can be enough. If he carries on the way he has started, I'm sure a reasonable offer will be made to him. But what do I know.
Very simple forget about the Japanese kid who we don’t know would settle or even be first team player and get Bree in on a permanent deal .. but of course his performances would not go unnoticed at Southampton so they might want him back or the fee suddenly increases ?
He feels a bit like the Kermorgant signing. Last minute, played previously with the manager but was underwhelming and unwanted at his previous club, whose fans really don't rate him.
But seems to have real class, makes an immediate impact with us and instantly feels a key piece of the jigsaw.
Two things I noticed about Bree, watching back the highlights today:
- After Carey scores, despite him screaming for the pass in an open position to carry on the attack, he goes mental celebrating and runs straight over to him, and is the first man there.
- After he scores the third, he doesn't do much by way of celebration, and goes STRAIGHT over to Greg Docherty to hug him for the assist.
That feels like exactly the sort of character you want at your club. I am not usually one to set my stall out this early on a loanee but we should sign him permanently at the earliest available opportunity.
Two things I noticed about Bree, watching back the highlights today:
- After Carey scores, despite him screaming for the pass in an open position to carry on the attack, he goes mental celebrating and runs straight over to him, and is the first man there.
- After he scores the third, he doesn't do much by way of celebration, and goes STRAIGHT over to Greg Docherty to hug him for the assist.
That feels like exactly the sort of character you want at your club. I am not usually one to set my stall out this early on a loanee but we should sign him permanently at the earliest available opportunity.
How much would he cost?
Don’t think transfer fee would be any issue, just the wages. He’ll be on a very good wage at Southampton so would likely have to take a pay cut wherever he goes next
Very simple forget about the Japanese kid who we don’t know would settle or even be first team player and get Bree in on a permanent deal .. but of course his performances would not go unnoticed at Southampton so they might want him back or the fee suddenly increases ?
Considering they loaned him out in the first place means the manager just doesn’t rate him especially when they went out and signed another fullback just to have an excuse to get rid of him. Feels very much like a T.Taylor situation, they also can’t exactly keep upping the fee as well as he’s gone in 6 months anyway and they’re forced to pay him 6 months wages to be not be used as well if they can’t find him a club.
From the players own comments it seems Nathan Jones is a big pull for him. That certainly works in our favour. With only six months left on his contract I doubt the fee will be much of an issue but very often in the end wages are the deal maker or breaker. If we don’t offer enough he might well just sit his contract out. Hope it doesn’t come to that.
From the players own comments it seems Nathan Jones is a big pull for him. That certainly works in our favour. With only six months left on his contract I doubt the fee will be much of an issue but very often in the end wages are the deal maker or breaker. If we don’t offer enough he might well just sit his contract out. Hope it doesn’t come to that.
If that’s the case could just propose we take him on loan for the final 6 months of his contract anyway. Southampton save money by not paying his wages and we keep a good player. then we can go back in for him in the summer when our wage budget has increased. If we can’t get him still have Apter, Asiimwe and will be more options that pop up as well we’re in a very strong position whatever happens with him
Unless a deal has already been agreed, and maybe even if it has, Southampton will be looking to get the best financial deal possible for themselves, as they should.
If they can get a fee in January and free up his wages all good for them but the better he does for us the more likely, IMHO, that they try to squeeze us to either pay a bigger transfer fee or ask for a bigger loan fee and to have more of his wages paid come the new year.
Two things I noticed about Bree, watching back the highlights today:
- After Carey scores, despite him screaming for the pass in an open position to carry on the attack, he goes mental celebrating and runs straight over to him, and is the first man there.
- After he scores the third, he doesn't do much by way of celebration, and goes STRAIGHT over to Greg Docherty to hug him for the assist.
That feels like exactly the sort of character you want at your club. I am not usually one to set my stall out this early on a loanee but we should sign him permanently at the earliest available opportunity.
How much would he cost?
Don’t think transfer fee would be any issue, just the wages. He’ll be on a very good wage at Southampton so would likely have to take a pay cut wherever he goes next
I read that he signed a 4 year deal worth over 2 million. So 500k plus per year
I dont think there is or ever was any chance we would sign him in Jan. Southampton were clearly trying to get a fee for him this summer and only when something fell through was he available for loan. Even with 6 months left they will want a decent fee and i think his wage expectations will be far too high.
I dont think there is or ever was any chance we would sign him in Jan. Southampton were clearly trying to get a fee for him this summer and only when something fell through was he available for loan. Even with 6 months left they will want a decent fee and i think his wage expectations will be far too high.
Prepared to be pleasantly shocked though
This is what I'm thinking to but what we do have going for us is he's going to be loved here. After being at a club where you've fallen out of favour that can be massive and we know he loves NJ too. Part of me is resigned to not having him for the second half but maybe seeing him back in August
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- After Carey scores, despite him screaming for the pass in an open position to carry on the attack, he goes mental celebrating and runs straight over to him, and is the first man there.
- After he scores the third, he doesn't do much by way of celebration, and goes STRAIGHT over to Greg Docherty to hug him for the assist.
That feels like exactly the sort of character you want at your club. I am not usually one to set my stall out this early on a loanee but we should sign him permanently at the earliest available opportunity.
He played 27 games last season in the Premier League including 90 minutes in a 0-0 draw with Man City in May.
We are 7th and Southampton are 19th and they haven't won since the opening game of the season.
He looks class both defending and going forward.
Either we're missing something or Will Still is. Well actually he is. Goes by the name of James Bree.
Bree's out of contract at the end of the season so we should be saying to Southampton that you can either take £100,000 from us in January or we'll sign him in June on a free. And just in case they have any doubt that he wants to come to us, let's remind them of what he said on joining us:
Bree is now enjoying his third spell under Nathan Jones, who signed the versatile defender for both Luton Town and Southampton previously.
"Obviously it came down to the last day and it was something that came about quite late for me and for the gaffer as well," explained Bree. "I think he was waiting for me to become available and I did with a couple of days left. Once we started speaking I was always confident that we were going to get it through and thankfully we did.
"To be fair to the gaffer I think he'd have been raging at me if I went anywhere else! He's been a massive influence on my career so far and I think I've played my best football underneath him. I enjoy working with him, I know how he works and what he likes to do and I think that suits me really well. Once I had the chance to work with him again it was something that I wanted to do."
Nice one breezy, nice one breezy, does it, does it, does it every time!
Sometimes feeling at home and loved by the fans can be enough.
If he carries on the way he has started, I'm sure a reasonable offer will be made to him.
But what do I know.
But seems to have real class, makes an immediate impact with us and instantly feels a key piece of the jigsaw.
Eazy cheezy peazy Breezy! Only works for stickers for lampposts and pub toilets though...cant help with the songs I'm afraid.
If they can get a fee in January and free up his wages all good for them but the better he does for us the more likely, IMHO, that they try to squeeze us to either pay a bigger transfer fee or ask for a bigger loan fee and to have more of his wages paid come the new year.
Football is a cut throat business.
Prepared to be pleasantly shocked though
Along with Bree