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Petition opposing the proposed parking charges, increased yellow lines & reduced parking in Charlton

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  • clive
    clive Posts: 19,722
    https://greenwichwire.co.uk/2025/09/26/greenwich-council-ltn-report-charlton-rat-running/
  • clive
    clive Posts: 19,722

    Greenwich LTN made permanent as pledges made to fix Charlton’s traffic

    https://greenwichwire.co.uk/2025/11/07/greenwich-ltn-approved-permanent-charlton-traffic/
  • Fortune 82nd Minute
    Fortune 82nd Minute Posts: 8,476
    Well there's a surprise.

    Said no-one.
  • stoneroses19
    stoneroses19 Posts: 7,328
    This bit made me laugh in frustration:

    council officers admitted in their report to Anthony Okereke, the council leader, that it “may have contributed to localised increased traffic pressures on some specific roads within the Charlton area.

    May have contributed?! It 100% contributed to the traffic pressures in Charlton. 
  • sam3110
    sam3110 Posts: 21,506
    And as they said all it's done is push it further East, guess what they'll do then? Probably bring in a new zone there, pushing it East again.

    Currently it pushes it to Victoria Way, which has a narrow bridge over the railway, forcing traffic into single lane, one way at a time crossing, making queues much longer. If they zone that, it'll push the traffic to Charlton Church Lane
  • SoundAsa£
    SoundAsa£ Posts: 22,547
    Done.
  • TootingRedArmy
    TootingRedArmy Posts: 519
    The current set up is easy to get around leave car @ 2.30-40pm in a bay with 2hrs free parking and you'll be fine. Quite simply its impossible for wardens to photo cars and get back @ 4.40- 5pm to check if you have exceeded 2hrs free parking. (Your allowed 10mins grace) You won't see a warden hanging around post match with thousands of fans coming out of the ground. Even better for evening games as you can park from 4.40pm onwards for free.
  • thai malaysia addick
    thai malaysia addick Posts: 18,480
    edited November 11
    It’s put me off coming to The Valley, to be honest. I missed the kick off for the Leicester game (something I never do) because I ended up parking in St John’s Park Road near Blackheath and walking from there. Is there anywhere closer to park (paid or unpaid)?
  • gringo
    gringo Posts: 675
    thai malaysia addick said:
    It’s put me off coming to The Valley, to be honest. I missed the kick off for the Leicester game (something I never do) because I ended up parking in St John’s Park Road near Blackheath and walking from there. Is there anywhere closer to park (paid or unpaid)?
    yes... but I'm keeping it!😒
  • ParkinsonOut
    ParkinsonOut Posts: 1,497
    thai malaysia addick said:
    It’s put me off coming to The Valley, to be honest. I missed the kick off for the Leicester game (something I never do) because I ended up parking in St John’s Park Road near Blackheath and walking from there. Is there anywhere closer to park (paid or unpaid)?
    Me too Thai. I’ve stopped attending because of this - I never thought that the scummy council would bring an end to my days of attending games 🤬🤬🤬🤬🤬🤬

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  • ParkinsonOut
    ParkinsonOut Posts: 1,497
    TootingRedArmy said:
    The current set up is easy to get around leave car @ 2.30-40pm in a bay with 2hrs free parking and you'll be fine. Quite simply its impossible for wardens to photo cars and get back @ 4.40- 5pm to check if you have exceeded 2hrs free parking. (Your allowed 10mins grace) You won't see a warden hanging around post match with thousands of fans coming out of the ground. Even better for evening games as you can park from 4.40pm onwards for free.
    I don’t know about Greenwich wardens, but in other councils their wardens ride around on mopeds - as I found out to my cost a few years ago 💰🤬
  • TootingRedArmy
    TootingRedArmy Posts: 519
    edited November 11
    ParkinsonOut said:
    TootingRedArmy said:
    The current set up is easy to get around leave car @ 2.30-40pm in a bay with 2hrs free parking and you'll be fine. Quite simply its impossible for wardens to photo cars and get back @ 4.40- 5pm to check if you have exceeded 2hrs free parking. (Your allowed 10mins grace) You won't see a warden hanging around post match with thousands of fans coming out of the ground. Even better for evening games as you can park from 4.40pm onwards for free.
    I don’t know about Greenwich wardens, but in other councils their wardens ride around on mopeds - as I found out to my cost a few years ago 💰🤬
    well have been parking in 2hr zone parking bays for several years - I park up in one bay so can enjoy pre match and move it to another road and bay just before KO and never had a prob, get into ground and in my seat by 2.45pm sure one day may get a ticket but highly unlikely - only seen a warden once before KO. The wardens scotter, foot, magic carpert etc they simply can't patrol all bays between 2.30-3pm and get back around 2+hrs later to check, your allowed 10 mins grace to. Plus no way wardens are sticking fines on cars around 4.45-5pm with thousands of fans coming out
  • WillmoreTheRed
    WillmoreTheRed Posts: 889
    Never once had a problem parking, sure there are days that are busier than some and I park a little further down the road but always get a spot without any restrictions so no worrying about tickets. 
  • iainment
    iainment Posts: 8,065
    How on earth did Charlton get those huge crowds before the ubiquity of cars?
    There are good public transport options to get people to the Valley as well as Shanks pony and cycling and taxis.
  • valleynick66
    valleynick66 Posts: 4,967
    What’s the logic for not needing the restrictions after 5pm?

    I know it’s to our advantage but can you trust the council not to nibble away at that in the future?
  • clive
    clive Posts: 19,722
    valleynick66 said:
    What’s the logic for not needing the restrictions after 5pm?

    I know it’s to our advantage but can you trust the council not to nibble away at that in the future?
    According to the borough website the hours for restrictions are 9am -6.30 pm Monday to Saturday.
    https://www.royalgreenwich.gov.uk/directory_record/1038778/charlton
  • TootingRedArmy
    TootingRedArmy Posts: 519
    edited November 11
    clive said:
    valleynick66 said:
    What’s the logic for not needing the restrictions after 5pm?

    I know it’s to our advantage but can you trust the council not to nibble away at that in the future?
    According to the borough website the hours for restrictions are 9am -6.30 pm Monday to Saturday.
    https://www.royalgreenwich.gov.uk/directory_record/1038778/charlton

    TOOTING RED ARMY: yes its 2hr window free between these hrs so just get a bay around 2.30-2.45 close to the ground and your fine, no warden is going to slap a ticket in few minutes you go over 2hrs plus you get 10mins grace on parking tickets so no problem - never seen a warden after a match in surrounding roads 
    evening matches are better just park anytime after 4.30 and then its free. 
  • southamptonaddick
    southamptonaddick Posts: 4,075
    iainment said:
    How on earth did Charlton get those huge crowds before the ubiquity of cars?
    There are good public transport options to get people to the Valley as well as Shanks pony and cycling and taxis.
    Good idea. 
    Me, my son and grandson will all get our bikes out and cycle up from Southampton. 
    I'm sure a taxi would be a reasonable price. 
    Or we could get the train paying £40 plus each. 
    Thanks for your suggestion. 
  • JohnnyH2
    JohnnyH2 Posts: 5,371
    TootingRedArmy said:
    The current set up is easy to get around leave car @ 2.30-40pm in a bay with 2hrs free parking and you'll be fine. Quite simply its impossible for wardens to photo cars and get back @ 4.40- 5pm to check if you have exceeded 2hrs free parking. (Your allowed 10mins grace) You won't see a warden hanging around post match with thousands of fans coming out of the ground. Even better for evening games as you can park from 4.40pm onwards for free.
    If everyone who came by car, did what you did, the vast majority would miss a big chunk of the game, as they would need to park in the first available spot which would not leave enough time to get back to the ground in time for kick off
  • Covered End
    Covered End Posts: 52,183
    The row behind me always arrive around 10 mins after KO & leave before the end.

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  • TootingRedArmy
    TootingRedArmy Posts: 519
    JohnnyH2 said:
    TootingRedArmy said:
    The current set up is easy to get around leave car @ 2.30-40pm in a bay with 2hrs free parking and you'll be fine. Quite simply its impossible for wardens to photo cars and get back @ 4.40- 5pm to check if you have exceeded 2hrs free parking. (Your allowed 10mins grace) You won't see a warden hanging around post match with thousands of fans coming out of the ground. Even better for evening games as you can park from 4.40pm onwards for free.
    If everyone who came by car, did what you did, the vast majority would miss a big chunk of the game, as they would need to park in the first available spot which would not leave enough time to get back to the ground in time for kick off

    TOOTING RED ARMY      Plenty of free spaces close to the ground, and i'm in my seat by 2.40pm.
  • iainment
    iainment Posts: 8,065
    southamptonaddick said:
    iainment said:
    How on earth did Charlton get those huge crowds before the ubiquity of cars?
    There are good public transport options to get people to the Valley as well as Shanks pony and cycling and taxis.
    Good idea. 
    Me, my son and grandson will all get our bikes out and cycle up from Southampton. 
    I'm sure a taxi would be a reasonable price. 
    Or we could get the train paying £40 plus each. 
    Thanks for your suggestion. 
    You’re welcome. 😎
  • iainment
    iainment Posts: 8,065
    edited November 14
    @southamptonaddick
    There’s plenty of free on road parking where I live in Plumstead. Bus or train from Plumstead to the Valley is good. 
    Look further afield for parking and you’ll be fine.
  • Bedsaddick
    Bedsaddick Posts: 24,923
    iainment said:
    @southamptonaddick
    There’s plenty of free on road parking where I live in Plumstead. Bus or train from Plumstead to the Valley is good. 
    Look further afield for parking and you’ll be fine.
    Not for long . Plumstead will be hit eventually 
  • iainment
    iainment Posts: 8,065
    Bedsaddick said:
    iainment said:
    @southamptonaddick
    There’s plenty of free on road parking where I live in Plumstead. Bus or train from Plumstead to the Valley is good. 
    Look further afield for parking and you’ll be fine.
    Not for long . Plumstead will be hit eventually 
    But not yet.
  • clive
    clive Posts: 19,722

    Three Greenwich Council car parks are set to be sold at auction next month – with the town hall hoping to net a total of £1.4 million from the sale.

    The car parks at Old Dover Road in Blackheath, Charlton Village and Plumstead High Street are being offloaded as part of a £33 million package of cuts approved by the Labour council’s cabinet in October last year.

    https://greenwichwire.co.uk/2025/11/25/greenwich-council-car-parks-sale-auction/

    https://www.fromthemurkydepths.co.uk/2025/11/27/greenwich-car-parks-up-for-sale-via-auction/

  • Dave Rudd
    Dave Rudd Posts: 2,882
    clive said:

    Three Greenwich Council car parks are set to be sold at auction next month – with the town hall hoping to net a total of £1.4 million from the sale.

    The car parks at Old Dover Road in Blackheath, Charlton Village and Plumstead High Street are being offloaded as part of a £33 million package of cuts approved by the Labour council’s cabinet in October last year.

    https://greenwichwire.co.uk/2025/11/25/greenwich-council-car-parks-sale-auction/

    https://www.fromthemurkydepths.co.uk/2025/11/27/greenwich-car-parks-up-for-sale-via-auction/


    With so little parking in the Borough, I could see some 'enterprising' developers buying up these sites and turning them into car parks.

    They'd make a fortune.

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