Who do you detest most?

Friend Or Defoe · September 17

Millwall, although a lot of their local fans who support their local/family side rather than to try and act tough are decent, the rest are completely tragic failures in life. Pretty much every nigel i've met has been a complete dork!

Every time i've left the den i've always thought glad that i didn't end up supporting them, an embarrassment to football.

Dave2l · September 17

Sheffield Wednesday and Gillingham are also on "the list".

EugenesAxe · September 17

Wrexham

joking

Millwall scum, palace are irritating, Millwall just scum, yes got friends who are supporters, club is still scummy

DamoNorthStand · September 17

Well at least Millwall beat Palace in something in the last 24 hours. The current standings in this poll. I make it 17 to 7 Millwall.

TBH we have this everytime, and everytime they comfortably come out on top. Saturday re-enforced that. Felt like a proper Derby. Palace games never had that intensity - not even close.

Garrymanilow · September 17

I wonder if it depends on when you grew up. I was born in 1990 and not in South-East London so I was too young to engage with the games we played against Millwall up to 1996 and then we didn't play them again until 2009. They didn't really figure for me as a Charlton fan growing up, whereas we played Palace a few times in the Football League and then they made their way up to the Premier League until we sent them back down. Add to that learning about all the Selhurst stuff and they've always been more prominent as a direct rival for me.

Plus, I just look at them differently. Millwall are a scum club, everyone hates them. They're in everyone's top 5 hated clubs and their whole existence is built around it so it's almost boring to have them as your main rival. Palace I just find offensive in how cringe they are; new badge, new colours, new nickname, new location, new founding date, ridiculous 'rivalry' with a team 50 miles away, trying to build a European ultras section, just anything they can to artificially create relevance when they can't find it organically for themselves. If you were going to say anything positive about Millwall you can at least say they're authentic. Palace spend every waking moment trying to decide what kind of club they are and begging everyone else to believe them. It makes me feel embarrassed to live on the same planet.

JohnnyJoeyDeeDee · September 17

Millwall by a country mile (and a different spelling of country). The difficult truth is I’m rather jealous of Palace’s recent history and they are (I think) now only one season behind us in terms of total top flight football. I reckon 90% of the people I know who support Palace are decent folk but that percentage is far far lower for Millwall

swordfish · September 17

Neither, at least not enough to satisfy most on here. Brentford condemned us to our longest and most depressing spell in L1 in the last century by not beating Barnsley when they should have, and I don't have any friends who support them, so it's fair to say I don't like them. Who do they think they are?

Chizz · September 17

Millwall are a disgrace of a football club, propped up by a fanbase that seems to take pride in being the worst in the country. Their supporters aren’t passionate; they’re notorious for provoking mindless violence, clinging to a hooligan culture that most of football has tried to leave behind. Week in, week out, they tarnish the game with aggression, abuse and a warped sense of identity built on fear rather than loyalty. For Millwall fans, “support” too often translates into intimidation, fighting and dragging the sport’s reputation through the mud.

And then there’s The Den. Calling it a stadium is generous. It’s a crumbling, soulless box of concrete that offers nothing but hostility. It’s not famous for atmosphere in the footballing sense - it’s infamous as one of the ugliest, most unpleasant grounds in England. Away fans don’t dread The Den because of the team on the pitch; they dread it because of the baying mob in the stands, eager to provoke trouble before, during, after and, in some cases, instead of the match.

Millwall’s legacy isn’t trophies, glory or even good football. It’s the toxic culture of their fanbase and the miserable eyesore they call a stadium - a club defined not by success, but by the chaos and violence that surrounds it.

Millwall are hateful, hate-filled and abhorrent.

But Palace are worse.

SE10Addick · September 17

I hate Palace because I'm a Charlton fan, but I hate Millwall because I'm a decent human.

cafc999 · September 17

Palace for me

Absolute non entity of a club. A complete parody

shirty5 · September 17

Millwall by a country mile

MuttleyCAFC · September 17

I want a big punch up when they play each other where both sides have multiple sending offs. If it is a league game I want points deductions!

JustFloydRoad · September 17

golfaddick said:

Millwall obviously.

I mean Palace are good guys. They took us in when we needed a home.

(runs for cover)

Have a chat with Wimbledon (since it definitely did them the world of good) on your way out

Bod · September 17

Palace every time, then Millwall and if he's got time- Sheffield Wednesday.

Redvaliant · September 17

Millwall all day long, followed by West Ham, Palace are a nonentity.

MrWalker · September 17

The French

PaddyP17 · September 17

We are neither side's main rivals - we are treated as secondary to Brighton and West Ham - so it is somewhat fitting that we all seem to have different opinions on who we least prefer out of two appalling options.

For me though, it has to be Palace. They are the only club that I would not care about going out of existence. There is something inauthentic about them as a football club: the claims to be in proper London, the whole "oldest club" thing (absolutely not), their ramshackle excuse of a stadium, the perverse glee with which they exclaim "well you had to share with us" whenever we bring up our hatred of them... just everything about them feels insincere. Also, I'm a bit younger, being born in 1994, so I guess my formative experiences of rivalry in football have been against them rather than Millwall.

While I've said it has to be Palace - Millwall have got a lot closer after the weekend. Absolute scum to attack a family stand and a geezer whose arms were up having absolutely none of it. However, they are a club my granddad would have gone to in alternate weeks depending on who was at home, and there is little pretence about them. Don't get me wrong, they are in the main a violent, boorish, unsophisticated bunch, but you know where you stand.

MrOneLung · September 17

The only reason Palace are getting so many votes, is that for a lot of posters, we barely played Millwall whilst we we playing Palace in the Premier League years

Nug · September 17

Millwall by far, absolutely hate them and can't understand how anyone can be around the nonsense their fans bring to every game, but I'm assuming those that do, like the hard man image they think is associated with it. I dislike Palace but probably more because I'm envious of how far they've gone but generally feel nothing for them.