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After the Final Whistle tomorrow - Towards the Train Station

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  • Wouldn't be surprised if they leave barriers down and make everyone take the dreaded bridge of doom
  • Spoke to one of the directors about this who said that it was out of the club's hands and a police decision they weren't happy about.

    Police rationale was if the Spanners were kept in they'd smash the place up and/or fight the old bill.

    In case you want to let the crowd go the museum will be open after the game.
    So all other home fans in the Championship have to do this when Millwall visit ?  Don't  recall seeing it in the media over the past few years that Millwall fans have smashed up stadiums. 

    As well as that you can bet your life when the spanners were at Elland Road last season, and others, that THEY were kept in the ground whilst the home fans left the ground.
  • Spoke to one of the directors about this who said that it was out of the club's hands and a police decision they weren't happy about.

    Police rationale was if the Spanners were kept in they'd smash the place up and/or fight the old bill.

    In case you want to let the crowd go the museum will be open after the game.
    So all other home fans in the Championship have to do this when Millwall visit ?  Don't  recall seeing it in the media over the past few years that Millwall fans have smashed up stadiums. 
    Spoke to one of the directors about this who said that it was out of the club's hands and a police decision they weren't happy about.

    Police rationale was if the Spanners were kept in they'd smash the place up and/or fight the old bill.

    In case you want to let the crowd go the museum will be open after the game.
    So all other home fans in the Championship have to do this when Millwall visit ?  Don't  recall seeing it in the media over the past few years that Millwall fans have smashed up stadiums. 

    Mate this is a local derby that’s not been played for years .. 
  • edited September 12
    .....will they allow everyone to walk through Hickin and Gallon? Barney Close gonna be closed or everyone would just outflank road block by the Anti
  • SteveACS said:
    Off_it said:
    On a serious point, someone needs to make sure the level crossing is properly marshalled/policed. I seem to remember last time this happened that the coppers on the ground didn't even know there was a level crossing down the road they were telling everyone to go down!
    If there are no trains, what's to marshall?
    There are trains running via Blackheath, but not via Greenwich (bus replacement service).
  • SteveACS said:
    Off_it said:
    On a serious point, someone needs to make sure the level crossing is properly marshalled/policed. I seem to remember last time this happened that the coppers on the ground didn't even know there was a level crossing down the road they were telling everyone to go down!
    If there are no trains, what's to marshall?
    There are trains running via Blackheath, but not via Greenwich (bus replacement service).

    Such a surprise there is engineering work tomorrow.
  • Gribbo said:
    .....will they allow everyone to walk through Hickin and Gallon? Barney Close gonna be closed or everyone would just outflank road block by the Anti
    The OB probably don’t even know about that route.
  • Spoke to one of the directors about this who said that it was out of the club's hands and a police decision they weren't happy about.

    Police rationale was if the Spanners were kept in they'd smash the place up and/or fight the old bill.

    In case you want to let the crowd go the museum will be open after the game.
    So all other home fans in the Championship have to do this when Millwall visit ?  Don't  recall seeing it in the media over the past few years that Millwall fans have smashed up stadiums
    Because we haven’t. 
  • Spoke to one of the directors about this who said that it was out of the club's hands and a police decision they weren't happy about.

    Police rationale was if the Spanners were kept in they'd smash the place up and/or fight the old bill.

    In case you want to let the crowd go the museum will be open after the game.
    So all other home fans in the Championship have to do this when Millwall visit ?  Don't  recall seeing it in the media over the past few years that Millwall fans have smashed up stadiums. 
    Spoke to one of the directors about this who said that it was out of the club's hands and a police decision they weren't happy about.

    Police rationale was if the Spanners were kept in they'd smash the place up and/or fight the old bill.

    In case you want to let the crowd go the museum will be open after the game.
    So all other home fans in the Championship have to do this when Millwall visit ?  Don't  recall seeing it in the media over the past few years that Millwall fans have smashed up stadiums. 

    Mate this is a local derby that’s not been played for years .. 
    mate, it isn’t the 70’s or 80’s, or even the 90’s or the 00’s. It’s 2025. Seriously, we’re not going to smash the ground up 😆
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  • Why are some people blaming the club. 
    We've been told it's a police decision and they have the final say. 
    It seems some so called Charlton "fans" just can't wait to have a dig. 
    Nobody is happy about it but if the police decide that's what is going to happen the club can do fuck all about it. 
    Because they have allowed this decision to be made.There isn't another club in the country  that would allow this to happen to their home fans. This will be the second time that it's happened to us and you can bet your bottom dollar it won't be the last. Grow some fucking balls  and keep them in, the club could always lose the keys to the gates.
    Obviously I wasn't in the safety meeting and I'm guessing you weren't either. 
    So, and I'm making a wild assumption, despite any protests the club may have made, they were told what was going to happen and that was that. 
    If any other club in the country are given instructions on how the crowd will be controlled outside of the ground then they would have to comply.
    The police will always have the final say. 
  • This is one game where old bill have to earn their money.Normally,fans are mingling without incident,now there could be problems and they have not got  a clue.Instead of just standing about chatting they "may" have something to do,and dont like it.
  • Would love to know what power the club have on the roads around Charlton that means they could have stopped the police doing this? 
  • Spoke to one of the directors about this who said that it was out of the club's hands and a police decision they weren't happy about.

    Police rationale was if the Spanners were kept in they'd smash the place up and/or fight the old bill.

    In case you want to let the crowd go the museum will be open after the game.
    So all other home fans in the Championship have to do this when Millwall visit ?  Don't  recall seeing it in the media over the past few years that Millwall fans have smashed up stadiums. 
    Spoke to one of the directors about this who said that it was out of the club's hands and a police decision they weren't happy about.

    Police rationale was if the Spanners were kept in they'd smash the place up and/or fight the old bill.

    In case you want to let the crowd go the museum will be open after the game.
    So all other home fans in the Championship have to do this when Millwall visit ?  Don't  recall seeing it in the media over the past few years that Millwall fans have smashed up stadiums. 

    Mate this is a local derby that’s not been played for years .. 
    mate, it isn’t the 70’s or 80’s, or even the 90’s or the 00’s. It’s 2025. Seriously, we’re not going to smash the ground up 😆
    Yeah but for Millwall fans it's still 1976 so you can understand our concern.
  • fenaddick said:
    Would love to know what power the club have on the roads around Charlton that means they could have stopped the police doing this? 
    None whatsoever
  • Off_it said:
    Why are some people blaming the club. 
    We've been told it's a police decision and they have the final say. 
    It seems some so called Charlton "fans" just can't wait to have a dig. 
    Nobody is happy about it but if the police decide that's what is going to happen the club can do fuck all about it. 
    "So called fans"?

    Embarrassing comment.
    Think the point is - whenever something goes wrong, the club getting it both barrels from the fans regardless whether they're at fault or not 🤷‍♂️
  • edited September 12
    So if Harvey Gardens and Floyd road are closed at 11.30, how do you get into the covered end and west stand after 11.30?
  • Gribbo said:
    Off_it said:
    Why are some people blaming the club. 
    We've been told it's a police decision and they have the final say. 
    It seems some so called Charlton "fans" just can't wait to have a dig. 
    Nobody is happy about it but if the police decide that's what is going to happen the club can do fuck all about it. 
    "So called fans"?

    Embarrassing comment.
    Think the point is - whenever something goes wrong, the club getting it both barrels from the fans regardless whether they're at fault or not 🤷‍♂️
    Well, even if the final decision was the OBs, the clubs comms and timings have hardly been the best, have they?

    And the other point is, "so called fans" seemingly can't wait to have a go at other fans by using the "so called fans" comment as soon as something happens they don't like. Works both ways.

    The comment is still embarrassing and the poster needs to have a word with themselves.
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  • To continue,if any Millwall fans are intent on causing problems,why not by pass the station continue to the Antigallican and "ambush " The held Charlton fans.This is a different era,yes there will be a small minority who fancy themselves as throwbacks to the nutters of 30-40 years ago,but by and large they will just be gobby kids who will run a mile from a fight.
    Another thing,if I was a criminal of any sort,I would certainly look to make hay tomorrow as the entire police force of S.E. England will be at football matches or demonstrations.

  • So if Harvey Gardens and Floyd road are closed at 11.30, how do you get into the covered end and west stand after 11.30?
    Walking, Harvey Gardens/ Floyd Road closed to traffic.
  • Spoke to one of the directors about this who said that it was out of the club's hands and a police decision they weren't happy about.

    Police rationale was if the Spanners were kept in they'd smash the place up and/or fight the old bill.

    In case you want to let the crowd go the museum will be open after the game.
    So all other home fans in the Championship have to do this when Millwall visit ?  Don't  recall seeing it in the media over the past few years that Millwall fans have smashed up stadiums. 
    Spoke to one of the directors about this who said that it was out of the club's hands and a police decision they weren't happy about.

    Police rationale was if the Spanners were kept in they'd smash the place up and/or fight the old bill.

    In case you want to let the crowd go the museum will be open after the game.
    So all other home fans in the Championship have to do this when Millwall visit ?  Don't  recall seeing it in the media over the past few years that Millwall fans have smashed up stadiums. 

    Mate this is a local derby that’s not been played for years .. 
    mate, it isn’t the 70’s or 80’s, or even the 90’s or the 00’s. It’s 2025. Seriously, we’re not going to smash the ground up 😆
    Yeah but for Millwall fans it's still 1976 so you can understand our concern.
    All jokes aside, there’s people on here who have called it, the vast majority of away fans there will be season ticket holders who have the required number of loyalty points. This won’t be like the old rent a mob crowd who would turn out for big games when tickets are readily available. I’m not saying there won’t be trouble, some isolated incidents, but grounds getting smashed up? Calm down my dear, it ain’t gonna happen 😆
    Someone should tell the Old Bill that. 
  • Why are some people blaming the club. 
    We've been told it's a police decision and they have the final say. 
    It seems some so called Charlton "fans" just can't wait to have a dig. 
    Nobody is happy about it but if the police decide that's what is going to happen the club can do fuck all about it. 
    Because they have allowed this decision to be made.There isn't another club in the country  that would allow this to happen to their home fans. This will be the second time that it's happened to us and you can bet your bottom dollar it won't be the last. Grow some fucking balls  and keep them in, the club could always lose the keys to the gates.
    Obviously I wasn't in the safety meeting and I'm guessing you weren't either. 
    So, and I'm making a wild assumption, despite any protests the club may have made, they were told what was going to happen and that was that. 
    If any other club in the country are given instructions on how the crowd will be controlled outside of the ground then they would have to comply.
    The police will always have the final say. 
    So, why is it, that Greenwich police think this is the way to handle the situation, when every other police force don't? 
  • clive said:
    So if Harvey Gardens and Floyd road are closed at 11.30, how do you get into the covered end and west stand after 11.30?
    Walking, Harvey Gardens/ Floyd Road closed to traffic.
    Thanks, it isn't clear that is traffic, thought that was always the case and hour before KO.
  • Off_it said:
    Gribbo said:
    Off_it said:
    Why are some people blaming the club. 
    We've been told it's a police decision and they have the final say. 
    It seems some so called Charlton "fans" just can't wait to have a dig. 
    Nobody is happy about it but if the police decide that's what is going to happen the club can do fuck all about it. 
    "So called fans"?

    Embarrassing comment.
    Think the point is - whenever something goes wrong, the club getting it both barrels from the fans regardless whether they're at fault or not 🤷‍♂️
    Well, even if the final decision was the OBs, the clubs comms and timings have hardly been the best, have they?

    And the other point is, "so called fans" seemingly can't wait to have a go at other fans by using the "so called fans" comment as soon as something happens they don't like. Works both ways.

    The comment is still embarrassing and the poster needs to have a word with themselves.
    I've had a little chat with myself and we both agreed it's not embarrassing at all. 
    We also both agreed that the clubs communications could have been better but that doesn't change the point that it's not the clubs fault and that some "so called fans" can't wait to have a dig at the club. 
  • Off_it said:
    Gribbo said:
    Off_it said:
    Why are some people blaming the club. 
    We've been told it's a police decision and they have the final say. 
    It seems some so called Charlton "fans" just can't wait to have a dig. 
    Nobody is happy about it but if the police decide that's what is going to happen the club can do fuck all about it. 
    "So called fans"?

    Embarrassing comment.
    Think the point is - whenever something goes wrong, the club getting it both barrels from the fans regardless whether they're at fault or not 🤷‍♂️
    Well, even if the final decision was the OBs, the clubs comms and timings have hardly been the best, have they?

    And the other point is, "so called fans" seemingly can't wait to have a go at other fans by using the "so called fans" comment as soon as something happens they don't like. Works both ways.

    The comment is still embarrassing and the poster needs to have a word with themselves.
    I've had a little chat with myself and we both agreed it's not embarrassing at all. 
    We also both agreed that the clubs communications could have been better but that doesn't change the point that it's not the clubs fault and that some "so called fans" can't wait to have a dig at the club. 
    That's just vile
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