most people that are involved in rucking at football will likely be getting up town as quick as possible, the only people affected are charlton fans as per usual.
Yep and it invariably never happens near the ground anyway 🙄 Just loads of arm waving and gesticulating over the old bills shoulder anywhere near the ground.
The time when we were kept in, the OB sent us down past the oak, where the barriers were down at the level crossing, but the OB still let people down the road causing problems at the bottleneck further down.
I am GENUINELY considering not going. I fucking hate this - id be quite happy to be let out together. They're not fucking invincible their a load of twats that dine out on 20 years ago's rep.
Regardless the police don't want the aggro or risk of it kicking off and logistically with their end right near Station it makes logical sense to clear 2k out asap on first trains than waiting for 20k to disperse and hold them in for longer.
Morally right no....but logically, rationally and logistically i.e. where the police look at it from a public disorder avoidance point of view it's sensible.
Please don't miss the game mate cos of something like this as irksome and seemingly unjust as it is.
This is absolutely ridiculous. Keep them in, lock them in the Jimmy Seed stand—if they do damage (as they inevitably will), send the bill to Millwall Football Club.
Why do we let Greenwich Police—or whoever—let us, the fans, be treated like this? This is scandalous.
I hope the supporters trust make a comment on this saying that they think it's ridiculous because if they've let this happen without a fight, they're pathetic.
I am GENUINELY considering not going. I fucking hate this - id be quite happy to be let out together. They're not fucking invincible their a load of twats that dine out on 20 years ago's rep.
Regardless the police don't want the aggro or risk of it kicking off and logistically with their end right near Station it makes logical sense to clear 2k out asap on first trains than waiting for 20k to disperse and hold them in for longer.
Morally right no....but logically, rationally and logistically i.e. where the police look at it from a public disorder avoidance point of view it's sensible.
Please don't miss the game mate cos of something like this as irksome and seemingly unjust as it is.
Not one single club in the country does this except us. No justification for it regardless of how you try and spin it.
An absolute farce of a situation purely because the police don't want to deal with the hassle of containing 3k Millwall fans for half an hour after the game.
This wouldn't happen at any other ground in the country.
I am GENUINELY considering not going. I fucking hate this - id be quite happy to be let out together. They're not fucking invincible their a load of twats that dine out on 20 years ago's rep.
Regardless the police don't want the aggro or risk of it kicking off and logistically with their end right near Station it makes logical sense to clear 2k out asap on first trains than waiting for 20k to disperse and hold them in for longer.
Morally right no....but logically, rationally and logistically i.e. where the police look at it from a public disorder avoidance point of view it's sensible.
Please don't miss the game mate cos of something like this as irksome and seemingly unjust as it is.
Not one single club in the country does this except us. No justification for it regardless of how you try and spin it.
I don't agree with it but can see why it's happening.
Just makes you appreciate and applaud the hoops we have to jump through just to support our beloved club, what with parking restrictions, crap KO times as is tomorrow at 12.30, now this bloody stupid idea...
Realistically, there is no way the best part of 20k Charlton fans are going to be walking on the pavement down Woolwich Road. That’s going to cause gridlock.
Surely the old bill, the club and national rail could speak to each other as there are no direct trains from Deptford before or after the game. All train are fast from Lewisham to London Bridge. There is a bus replacement service from Deptford to Charlton.
The only thing i can think of in terms of attending football that is worse than this is when i read that away fans at Blackburn-Burnley could only go if they went by supporters coaches. Fans were only given their match ticket when they got on the coach on the day of the game.
Some Burnley fans lived in Blackburn, so they had to go to Burnley to get a bus which took them back to where they'd come from. And after the game, despite some of them living just a few minutes walk from the ground, they were herded onto the same buses and driven back to Burnley.
Prague has made a good point about Mick not being there anymore. But I’d wager (as like the lock in last time) he would have had his objections noted in the minutes and they would have just done what in their eyes is easier.
How is it easier? The spanners should be kept in, like every other club in the country does with away fans. When the spanners play the likes of Leeds, they are bussed in and out of the ground.
I’ve already explained why. Damage. Busing is always easier when fans come from the motorways, they then get an escort to the ground by motorbikes. Id wager you wouldn’t get Millwall onto any coaches to come to the Valley or any coach company to take them tbh.
Enforce it then. If they refuse to use coaches then they don’t get in the ground.
If as a consequence coach companies refuse to take them then don’t give them any tickets.
They would soon have a change in mentality rather than just pandering to them.
I actually don’t think they’d even consider it tbh. Not all Millwall fans live in SE13. Are you going to insist they all go to the Den first to get on the coaches? It just creates more flashpoints and more policing. I may not agree with any of it but I can see why they have made the decision.
But to use it as an excuse for losing the game……..ffs, have a word with yourselves. It’s like really believing that your lucky shirt which is still in the wash so you can’t wear it will be the reason we roll over again 🙄
Wouldn’t they just use there coach pick up points as they would for any other away game?
I have no idea where these are to be honest but can’t see them being anywhere near SE7.
The only thing i can think of in terms of attending football that is worse than this is when i read that away fans at Blackburn-Burnley could only go if they went by supporters coaches. Fans were only given their match ticket when they got on the coach on the day of the game.
Some Burnley fans lived in Blackburn, so they had to go to Burnley to get a bus which took them back to where they'd come from. And after the game, despite some of them living just a few minutes walk from the ground, they were herded onto the same buses and driven back to Burnley.
Think they do the same for Swansea/ Cardiff games. Mind it’s a long bus ride from the NW down.
Just about every football club in England would hold the away fans back if they thought there could be trouble. But not us,old bill have decided to piss off the 20k home fans and give preferential treatment to the 3k away fans. Fucking disgraceful.
THIS.
Un-fucking-believable. AGAIN.
I've never heard of anywhere else in the country where 20k home fans would be held back/inconvenienced to accommodate 3k away fans.
The only thing i can think of in terms of attending football that is worse than this is when i read that away fans at Blackburn-Burnley could only go if they went by supporters coaches. Fans were only given their match ticket when they got on the coach on the day of the game.
Some Burnley fans lived in Blackburn, so they had to go to Burnley to get a bus which took them back to where they'd come from. And after the game, despite some of them living just a few minutes walk from the ground, they were herded onto the same buses and driven back to Burnley.
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Just loads of arm waving and gesticulating over the old bills shoulder anywhere near the ground.
Morally right no....but logically, rationally and logistically i.e. where the police look at it from a public disorder avoidance point of view it's sensible.
Please don't miss the game mate cos of something like this as irksome and seemingly unjust as it is.
Why do we let Greenwich Police—or whoever—let us, the fans, be treated like this? This is scandalous.
I hope the supporters trust make a comment on this saying that they think it's ridiculous because if they've let this happen without a fight, they're pathetic.
Normally I'd be taking the train back to London, but I had already decided to drive to this game, anticipating the hassle...
The smart move would be to keep them behind for 45 minutes or so, or in line with a few trains leaving, then give them their personal escort.
Their method just winds up the majority.
No justification for it regardless of how you try and spin it.
This wouldn't happen at any other ground in the country.
Some Burnley fans lived in Blackburn, so they had to go to Burnley to get a bus which took them back to where they'd come from. And after the game, despite some of them living just a few minutes walk from the ground, they were herded onto the same buses and driven back to Burnley.
Only way they will understand
Un-fucking-believable. AGAIN.
I've never heard of anywhere else in the country where 20k home fans would be held back/inconvenienced to accommodate 3k away fans.
The Trust have responded
Days/weeks after they knew of the arrangements?