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Loan watch 25/26

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  • Certainly seems to be going well for Bower
  • If I’m being generous to Dixon on his missed one on one, it looks very awkward but I’m pretty sure he’s intentionally tried to dummy the keeper before rounding him when he’s on his backside.

    Unfortunately the keeper didn’t fully take the bait and was able to recover. 

    I’m sure he will learn for next time though. One thing that appeared is impressive was how he beat the offside trap to get through on goal in the first place.
  • Not directly related to us but Crawley have signed Ryan Loft from Cambridge who is very much a striker in the big lump style. Wonder how Dixon will play with him, a great opportunity to improve his crossing and learn to anticipate and read knock downs/flick ons 
  • Still possible that Rylah and others go on loan to National League sides although our U21 side is looking very short of forwards with PC, DK, MM and KD out on loan.
  • Still possible that Rylah and others go on loan to National League sides although our U21 side is looking very short of forwards with PC, DK, MM and KD out on loan.
    I’m doubtful any of them go, the U21 squad is small and clearly Jones wants Mwamba and Fullah at the very least to be around the first team, would imagine Enslin, Gough and Rylah are just behind the in the pecking order
  • edited September 2
    At the moment Casey is only on loan for a month. Maybe someone else will go out if he returns.
  • At the moment Casey is only on loan for a month. Maybe someone else will go out if he returns.
    Or he goes elsewhere, this move doesn’t seem to be working out. He needs to be playing men though, he’s in the middle ground where he’s too good for the u21s but not at senior level yet
  • Vurtue cup tonight. Any loanees featuring?
  • The Colchester FM researcher is expecting Mbick to be on the bench, they have two target men ahead of him (Tovide and Goodwin, who we've both been linked with). He said both are injury prone and one of the is out for another month. Mentioned Tovide could be sold in January, so things could change for him over the course of the season.
  • Vurtue cup tonight. Any loanees featuring?
    A Mitchell not involved for Plymouth, Ahadme starts for Stevenage v Asiimwe-less Wombles, Kanu misses out for Walsall, no Mbick for Colchester, no fixture for Northampton 
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  • fenaddick said:
    At the moment Casey is only on loan for a month. Maybe someone else will go out if he returns.
    Or he goes elsewhere, this move doesn’t seem to be working out. He needs to be playing men though, he’s in the middle ground where he’s too good for the u21s but not at senior level yet

    Having watched his debut, He is not up to the physical nature of non league whatsoever, needs to seriously hit the gym 
  • fenaddick said:
    At the moment Casey is only on loan for a month. Maybe someone else will go out if he returns.
    Or he goes elsewhere, this move doesn’t seem to be working out. He needs to be playing men though, he’s in the middle ground where he’s too good for the u21s but not at senior level yet
    Is he? A couple of years ago he looked like being a major prospect, but I don't recall him doing much in the last couple of years, with the likes of Mbick who's a year younger overtaking him.

    Casey has gone to a NLS club, Mbick has gone to a L2 club.
  • fenaddick said:
    At the moment Casey is only on loan for a month. Maybe someone else will go out if he returns.
    Or he goes elsewhere, this move doesn’t seem to be working out. He needs to be playing men though, he’s in the middle ground where he’s too good for the u21s but not at senior level yet
    Is he? A couple of years ago he looked like being a major prospect, but I don't recall him doing much in the last couple of years, with the likes of Mbick who's a year younger overtaking him.

    Casey has gone to a NLS club, Mbick has gone to a L2 club.
    Putting it another way, Casey needs to play senior football to develop.

    He can score goals at u21 level inside and outside the box because it’s not as physical and aggressive. If he’s going to make it in the EFL he needs to be stronger and hold up the ball well, and/or be very good at dropping deep and linking the play.

    He’s not going to be a Dixon running the channels and getting in behind. At any level a club is going to want a pacey striker to offer that.
  • An early rundown of the rest of the weeks fixtures

    Bermuda v Jamaica (Friday 11pm, World Cup Qualifier)

    Plymouth v Stockport (Sat 3pm)

    Bolton v Wimbledon (Sat 3pm)

    Walsall v Chesterfield (Sat 3pm)

    Colchester v Crewe (Sat 3pm)

    Farnborough v Dover (Sat 3pm)

    Maidstone v Horsham (Sat 3pm)

    Northampton & Stevenage games posptoned due to the international break. The Wimbledon game is on the main Sky Sports + channel, not sure if the other EFL games are or not
  • fenaddick said:
    An early rundown of the rest of the weeks fixtures

    Bermuda v Jamaica (Friday 11pm, World Cup Qualifier)

    Plymouth v Stockport (Sat 3pm)

    Bolton v Wimbledon (Sat 3pm)

    Walsall v Chesterfield (Sat 3pm)

    Colchester v Crewe (Sat 3pm)

    Farnborough v Dover (Sat 3pm)

    Maidstone v Horsham (Sat 3pm)

    Northampton & Stevenage games posptoned due to the international break. The Wimbledon game is on the main Sky Sports + channel, not sure if the other EFL games are or not
    They all should be available on Sky Sports +

    As the 3pm blackout doesn't come into effect if a certain percentage of games aren't being played in the top two Divisions. 
  • Maidstone were 3-0 down away at Weston-Super-Mare by the 48th minute. Casey came on just before the 80 minute mark. 

    No idea how he played in the 10+ mins he got. 
  • Glad he got back on the pitch
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  • Gas should have had a Hattrick, both his goals were simple finishes but him being in the right place at the right time, first one following up a parried shot, second one making himself open square on for an open goal. 
  • Mitchell nominated for POTM at Plymouth and currently has 14% of the vote, Boateng has 63% so will obviously win

    https://x.com/Argyle/status/1963263214344401052
  • Looking at the title I thought I might be able to get a Rolex for the weekend. 😁
  • fenaddick said:
    An early rundown of the rest of the weeks fixtures

    Bermuda v Jamaica (Friday 11pm, World Cup Qualifier)

    Plymouth v Stockport (Sat 3pm)

    Bolton v Wimbledon (Sat 3pm)

    Walsall v Chesterfield (Sat 3pm)

    Colchester v Crewe (Sat 3pm)

    Farnborough v Dover (Sat 3pm)

    Maidstone v Horsham (Sat 3pm)

    Northampton & Stevenage games posptoned due to the international break. The Wimbledon game is on the main Sky Sports + channel, not sure if the other EFL games are or not
    Just a reminder of this and as FA said above all the EFL games will be on Sky Sports +.
  • 7 players now on loan at EFL or equivalent level. Really promising the amount of assets we have at the club now considering we’ve never been a great at selling. If these players don’t make it into the first team we’re going to make some very nice profit on them 
  • 7 players now on loan at EFL or equivalent level. Really promising the amount of assets we have at the club now considering we’ve never been a great at selling. If these players don’t make it into the first team we’re going to make some very nice profit on them 
    We shall make some money from them, which is always useful, but I am not sure you could call it "a very nice profit" bearing in mind the costs of running the academy.
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    wolfgang said:
    7 players now on loan at EFL or equivalent level. Really promising the amount of assets we have at the club now considering we’ve never been a great at selling. If these players don’t make it into the first team we’re going to make some very nice profit on them 
    We shall make some money from them, which is always useful, but I am not sure you could call it "a very nice profit" bearing in mind the costs of running the academy.
    Can't you? According to the club the average Cat 2 academy costs £1.6m a year to run. Let's assume ours is better and costs £2.5m. I think you could probably sell Asiimwe, Kanu, Mbick and Mitchell for a 7 figure sum combined, including future (non sell on) clauses. Then you combine the players actually in the first team from the academy like Leaburn, Campbell, Anderson and AMB and you probably do make a profit 

    https://www.charltonafc.com/fans/valley-gold/valley-gold
  • fenaddick said:
    wolfgang said:
    7 players now on loan at EFL or equivalent level. Really promising the amount of assets we have at the club now considering we’ve never been a great at selling. If these players don’t make it into the first team we’re going to make some very nice profit on them 
    We shall make some money from them, which is always useful, but I am not sure you could call it "a very nice profit" bearing in mind the costs of running the academy.
    Can't you? According to the club the average Cat 2 academy costs £1.6m a year to run. Let's assume ours is better and costs £2.5m. I think you could probably sell Asiimwe, Kanu, Mbick and Mitchell for a 7 figure sum combined, including future (non sell on) clauses. Then you combine the players actually in the first team from the academy like Leaburn, Campbell, Anderson and AMB and you probably do make a profit 

    https://www.charltonafc.com/fans/valley-gold/valley-gold
    Methven has said previously it costs 2M to run the academy a year. Not only do we have a couple of players in the first team which basically pays that off itself considering today’s market you also have the players like your Kanu’s Asiimwe’s that make money. In addition to that we have youngsters like Goukh, who get poached by other clubs who we may not even know about but they bring in money as well and we even get addons depending on future first team appearances international appearances etc. I’d be shocked if there wasn’t any benefit to the academy hence why we put in more money than other clubs 
  • fenaddick said:
    wolfgang said:
    7 players now on loan at EFL or equivalent level. Really promising the amount of assets we have at the club now considering we’ve never been a great at selling. If these players don’t make it into the first team we’re going to make some very nice profit on them 
    We shall make some money from them, which is always useful, but I am not sure you could call it "a very nice profit" bearing in mind the costs of running the academy.
    Can't you? According to the club the average Cat 2 academy costs £1.6m a year to run. Let's assume ours is better and costs £2.5m. I think you could probably sell Asiimwe, Kanu, Mbick and Mitchell for a 7 figure sum combined, including future (non sell on) clauses. Then you combine the players actually in the first team from the academy like Leaburn, Campbell, Anderson and AMB and you probably do make a profit 

    https://www.charltonafc.com/fans/valley-gold/valley-gold
    Methven has said previously it costs 2M to run the academy a year. Not only do we have a couple of players in the first team which basically pays that off itself considering today’s market you also have the players like your Kanu’s Asiimwe’s that make money. In addition to that we have youngsters like Goukh, who get poached by other clubs who we may not even know about but they bring in money as well and we even get addons depending on future first team appearances international appearances etc. I’d be shocked if there wasn’t any benefit to the academy hence why we put in more money than other clubs 
    Plus we get PL funding based on what the owners put in too. Not sure if that is included in the £2m figure or not 
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