MATCH PREVIEW: Queens Park Rangers vs Charlton Athletic - Saturday 30th August 2025 - 12:30pm KO

0-1 Jones Masterclass 

We will score on 22 minutes and be better side for much of the game. 

Going for a win…what else!
I reckon we could get this 0-2, with a stout defensive line and hopefully some on target chances, not bothered who scores, but feel it’s Kelman time…✅Also, no reason for us not to be wearing RED!!

So COYR get yer arses in gear ffs

Anyone who watched Charlton Live knows their fans are not confident at this current stage of the season. Their fan was speaking about QPR's lack of fitness and a non existent midfield. If they can't battle with us and their fitness isn't up to par, then we could batter them again, as we all know that Jones's team are based on a physicality combined with relentless fitness (let's just forget Cambridge ).

You’d think Jones has them fired up for this one after midweek. Not that the Cambridge defeat was the fault of the11 who’ll start at QPR. 

Garrymanilow said:

Interesting this week, still plenty who don't see what Campbell offers but quieter shouts for Tanto to come in after his anonymous showing against Cambridge. I think one thing people don't see is how effective he is an an outball to allow our defence to get back into shape. We focus more of our play down the left than the right and Campbell always shows for the ball, draws players to him and runs, which allows us to get settled at the back again. We pretty much never get countered effectively if Campbell loses the ball because we're back set the way we need to be already. I think Campbell will continue to start because he offers us attacking threat as well as being a part of our solidity. I don't know if Tanto will offer that, he needs to pull wider and be available to receive a pass from Edwards or Bell constantly if he wants to get a run in the first team, maybe he will.

I also think taking TC out would allow teams to focus more on Apter and probably reduce his threat. TC is 100% in our best starting eleven at the moment, but I do think we should consider subbing him slightly earlier in games 

Our Ex-players always seem to score against us so does it work the other way with Kelman ?  Surely he must start in that case. 

Either way I cant see us winning this one. They will be so fired up & once we concede it will be same old same old.

2-0.

Scoham said:

Garrymanilow said:

Interesting this week, still plenty who don't see what Campbell offers but quieter shouts for Tanto to come in after his anonymous showing against Cambridge. I think one thing people don't see is how effective he is an an outball to allow our defence to get back into shape. We focus more of our play down the left than the right and Campbell always shows for the ball, draws players to him and runs, which allows us to get settled at the back again. We pretty much never get countered effectively if Campbell loses the ball because we're back set the way we need to be already. I think Campbell will continue to start because he offers us attacking threat as well as being a part of our solidity. I don't know if Tanto will offer that, he needs to pull wider and be available to receive a pass from Edwards or Bell constantly if he wants to get a run in the first team, maybe he will.

I get the feeling a lot of the criticism of TC comes from those frustrating basic errors he makes, for example the poor short passes that look simple.

Docherty was doing the same but cut them out vs Leicester so received more praise for his defensive work.

There’s then the strange idea that TC is lazy, which I think is more about a lack of confidence at times or not making the run off the ball that maybe he should. Maybe an expectation that he should track back like Apter, but we know he becomes a striker when we defend so isn’t supposed to.

There’s also the accusation about a lack of end product, but some have unrealistic expectations of players like TC. He’s not there to score 15+ but he can still get a decent return of goals and assists without getting them in every game.

I think for now he keeps his place, but that could change if Tanto starts making more impact from the bench than TC does when starting games.

And it is incredibly frustrating watching him carve a bit of space out for himself, send a defender the wrong way and then put the 5 yard pass behind the man and out of play. I imagine it's a bit of nerves stepping up into the Championship this season and it will hopefully go away with a bit of time. I don't see TC as the big goal scorer or assister, he only got one assist last season but his involvement in getting the ball up the pitch, turning and driving infield allows the rest of the team to come forward. If you look at something like Godden's goal against Stevenage at The Valley he's three passes before the goal but it all comes from him driving up from just inside their half and teasing the defender until Berry and Coventry break into the box so he can pass it on to them for the goal. We're a team that tends to move in chunks and he allows the chunks to move up into place. No reason Tanto can't do all that if he gets a chance but the yardsticks people use to judge whoever plays in that role generally aren't quite right. That player is the transition trigger

SELR_addicks said:

Scoham said:

Garrymanilow said:

Interesting this week, still plenty who don't see what Campbell offers but quieter shouts for Tanto to come in after his anonymous showing against Cambridge. I think one thing people don't see is how effective he is an an outball to allow our defence to get back into shape. We focus more of our play down the left than the right and Campbell always shows for the ball, draws players to him and runs, which allows us to get settled at the back again. We pretty much never get countered effectively if Campbell loses the ball because we're back set the way we need to be already. I think Campbell will continue to start because he offers us attacking threat as well as being a part of our solidity. I don't know if Tanto will offer that, he needs to pull wider and be available to receive a pass from Edwards or Bell constantly if he wants to get a run in the first team, maybe he will.

I get the feeling a lot of the criticism of TC comes from those frustrating basic errors he makes, for example the poor short passes that look simple.

Docherty was doing the same but cut them out vs Leicester so received more praise for his defensive work.

There’s then the strange idea that TC is lazy, which I think is more about a lack of confidence at times or not making the run off the ball that maybe he should. Maybe an expectation that he should track back like Apter, but we know he becomes a striker when we defend so isn’t supposed to.

There’s also the accusation about a lack of end product, but some have unrealistic expectations of players like TC. He’s not there to score 15+ but he can still get a decent return of goals and assists without getting them in every game.

I think for now he keeps his place, but that could change if Tanto starts making more impact from the bench than TC does when starting games.

He had 1 assist the whole of last season in League One. 

He is there to hassle and score goals, and effectively get doubled up on to create chances and space elsewhere. He isn't a chance creator himself, which is part of the problem really. 

The 1 assist is a bit of a deceptive stat. He laid a lot of chances on a plate last season which didn't end in goals, I don't have the stats to hand but I'm pretty sure he was high up in the charts for chances created and big chances created. 

I'm sure there's a stat man here who can correct me, but I think his expected assists was much higher than 1, suggesting we missed a lot of the chances he created.

golfaddick said:

Our Ex-players always seem to score against us so does it work the other way with Kelman ?  Surely he must start in that case. 

Either way I cant see us winning this one. They will be so fired up & once we concede it will be same old same old.

2-0.

2-1. Field and Smyth for them, Kelman for us 

NabySarr said:

ElliotCAFC said:

SELR_addicks said:

Scoham said:

Garrymanilow said:

Interesting this week, still plenty who don't see what Campbell offers but quieter shouts for Tanto to come in after his anonymous showing against Cambridge. I think one thing people don't see is how effective he is an an outball to allow our defence to get back into shape. We focus more of our play down the left than the right and Campbell always shows for the ball, draws players to him and runs, which allows us to get settled at the back again. We pretty much never get countered effectively if Campbell loses the ball because we're back set the way we need to be already. I think Campbell will continue to start because he offers us attacking threat as well as being a part of our solidity. I don't know if Tanto will offer that, he needs to pull wider and be available to receive a pass from Edwards or Bell constantly if he wants to get a run in the first team, maybe he will.

I get the feeling a lot of the criticism of TC comes from those frustrating basic errors he makes, for example the poor short passes that look simple.

Docherty was doing the same but cut them out vs Leicester so received more praise for his defensive work.

There’s then the strange idea that TC is lazy, which I think is more about a lack of confidence at times or not making the run off the ball that maybe he should. Maybe an expectation that he should track back like Apter, but we know he becomes a striker when we defend so isn’t supposed to.

There’s also the accusation about a lack of end product, but some have unrealistic expectations of players like TC. He’s not there to score 15+ but he can still get a decent return of goals and assists without getting them in every game.

I think for now he keeps his place, but that could change if Tanto starts making more impact from the bench than TC does when starting games.

He had 1 assist the whole of last season in League One. 

He is there to hassle and score goals, and effectively get doubled up on to create chances and space elsewhere. He isn't a chance creator himself, which is part of the problem really. 

The 1 assist is a bit of a deceptive stat. He laid a lot of chances on a plate last season which didn't end in goals, I don't have the stats to hand but I'm pretty sure he was high up in the charts for chances created and big chances created. 

I'm sure there's a stat man here who can correct me, but I think his expected assists was much higher than 1, suggesting we missed a lot of the chances he created.

For league 1 last season he ranked 

31st for chances created (3rd for us) 
11th for Big Chances created (1st for us)
17th for xA (1st for us) 
13th for successful dribbles  (1st for us) 

Another thing that these stats don’t show but the eye does is that he wins us a lot of corners and free kicks to the side of the 18 yard box and we know how dangerous we are from those. 

I like to use the word facilitator for players like TC, he isn’t the creator who gets the assist but he helps others to do so with his movement or getting a pre-assist or winning a corner 

ElliotCAFC said:

SELR_addicks said:

Scoham said:

Garrymanilow said:

Interesting this week, still plenty who don't see what Campbell offers but quieter shouts for Tanto to come in after his anonymous showing against Cambridge. I think one thing people don't see is how effective he is an an outball to allow our defence to get back into shape. We focus more of our play down the left than the right and Campbell always shows for the ball, draws players to him and runs, which allows us to get settled at the back again. We pretty much never get countered effectively if Campbell loses the ball because we're back set the way we need to be already. I think Campbell will continue to start because he offers us attacking threat as well as being a part of our solidity. I don't know if Tanto will offer that, he needs to pull wider and be available to receive a pass from Edwards or Bell constantly if he wants to get a run in the first team, maybe he will.

I get the feeling a lot of the criticism of TC comes from those frustrating basic errors he makes, for example the poor short passes that look simple.

Docherty was doing the same but cut them out vs Leicester so received more praise for his defensive work.

There’s then the strange idea that TC is lazy, which I think is more about a lack of confidence at times or not making the run off the ball that maybe he should. Maybe an expectation that he should track back like Apter, but we know he becomes a striker when we defend so isn’t supposed to.

There’s also the accusation about a lack of end product, but some have unrealistic expectations of players like TC. He’s not there to score 15+ but he can still get a decent return of goals and assists without getting them in every game.

I think for now he keeps his place, but that could change if Tanto starts making more impact from the bench than TC does when starting games.

He had 1 assist the whole of last season in League One. 

He is there to hassle and score goals, and effectively get doubled up on to create chances and space elsewhere. He isn't a chance creator himself, which is part of the problem really. 

The 1 assist is a bit of a deceptive stat. He laid a lot of chances on a plate last season which didn't end in goals, I don't have the stats to hand but I'm pretty sure he was high up in the charts for chances created and big chances created. 

I'm sure there's a stat man here who can correct me, but I think his expected assists was much higher than 1, suggesting we missed a lot of the chances he created.

His pile-driver volley that crashed off the bar and rebounded to Berry to score also wasn't counted as an assist but clearly was.

crookester said:

ElliotCAFC said:

SELR_addicks said:

Scoham said:

Garrymanilow said:

Interesting this week, still plenty who don't see what Campbell offers but quieter shouts for Tanto to come in after his anonymous showing against Cambridge. I think one thing people don't see is how effective he is an an outball to allow our defence to get back into shape. We focus more of our play down the left than the right and Campbell always shows for the ball, draws players to him and runs, which allows us to get settled at the back again. We pretty much never get countered effectively if Campbell loses the ball because we're back set the way we need to be already. I think Campbell will continue to start because he offers us attacking threat as well as being a part of our solidity. I don't know if Tanto will offer that, he needs to pull wider and be available to receive a pass from Edwards or Bell constantly if he wants to get a run in the first team, maybe he will.

I get the feeling a lot of the criticism of TC comes from those frustrating basic errors he makes, for example the poor short passes that look simple.

Docherty was doing the same but cut them out vs Leicester so received more praise for his defensive work.

There’s then the strange idea that TC is lazy, which I think is more about a lack of confidence at times or not making the run off the ball that maybe he should. Maybe an expectation that he should track back like Apter, but we know he becomes a striker when we defend so isn’t supposed to.

There’s also the accusation about a lack of end product, but some have unrealistic expectations of players like TC. He’s not there to score 15+ but he can still get a decent return of goals and assists without getting them in every game.

I think for now he keeps his place, but that could change if Tanto starts making more impact from the bench than TC does when starting games.

He had 1 assist the whole of last season in League One. 

He is there to hassle and score goals, and effectively get doubled up on to create chances and space elsewhere. He isn't a chance creator himself, which is part of the problem really. 

The 1 assist is a bit of a deceptive stat. He laid a lot of chances on a plate last season which didn't end in goals, I don't have the stats to hand but I'm pretty sure he was high up in the charts for chances created and big chances created. 

I'm sure there's a stat man here who can correct me, but I think his expected assists was much higher than 1, suggesting we missed a lot of the chances he created.

His pile-driver volley that crashed off the bar and rebounded to Berry to score also wasn't counted as an assist but clearly was.

Or the one against Blackpool where he stung it across the face of goal and the Blackpool player turned it into his own net. Doesn't count as an assist as it's an own goal but he made it