Deadline Day from Pg.641 - Summer 2025 Charlton Athletic Transfer Rumours

Callumcafc said:

sammy391 said:

Joe Gomez to RCD Mallorca? 

Where has that come from??? No chance Mallorca would have the money for what Liverpool want for him.

You’d think so. 🤔

Scoham said:

wmcf123 said:

eastterrace6168 said:

eaststandmike said:

eastterrace6168 said:

Henry Irving said:

gringo said:

Athletico Charlton said:

sam3110 said:

https://x.com/CAFCofficial/status/1955260483834892672?t=9I1pIOVXmLmAUDapEqDUqQ&s=19

That's it, call off the season, we're going down

Been here 18 months or so. Set piece and first team coach. I see the fans below are suggesting we bring in SCP as a replacement. That would be amazing.

was he hanging on until we actually scored from a set piece before quitting.

Shame you couldn't get a Wembley ticket

Great as Macca's free kick was for the winner at Wembley, and it was, yesterday's corner was more of a training ground routine, and perfectly executed...

Not if Jones never got his head on it as being suggested 

Bit pedantic there, the routine worked...

Thank goodness as the rest of our set pieces were woeful.  

Not according to this from March.

Think most of our set pieces goals though have come from just having quite a big physical side compared to the rest of the league. Besides Orient where there was a clear plan to hit it close to Keeley knowing he’s not a commanding keeper, Haven’t seen many other set piece wizardry other than playing a short corner and somehow end up recycling back to the halfway line 

Set piece routines are increasingly complex and varied. That's why you have a set piece coach, if the job was just 'cross that ball onto that bloke's head and he scores' then the role would never have developed. Knibbs' goal was part of a routine; Coventry played the ball over the keeper deep to the back post where it's hard to defend because it's so close to the line. Difficult to get hold of Jones if he's nearly off the pitch. In the meantime Docherty was a little gremlin blocking off the second man near Jones and then the keeper. Knibbs moved into the space where a knockdown was due and put it in. Classic set piece routine that will have been worked on in training.

I'm really not sure that we need many if any more signings unless the intention is to offload or loan more players out. Also, unlike previous seasons, we haven't had to resort to getting in loans so have plenty of options there as and when they are needed to plug any potential gaps. 

Addick Addict said:

I'm really not sure that we need many if any more signings unless the intention is to offload or loan more players out. Also, unlike previous seasons, we haven't had to resort to getting in loans so have plenty of options there as and when they are needed to plug any potential gaps. 

26 players used in the first two games of the season must be close to a record. And that's not taking into account the likes of AMB, Burke, Laqretabua, Dixon, Godden, Ahadme and Mbick, all meaning we have enough to fill three teams. We cannot carry a squad that big and certainly can't recruit many more, including loans where clubs will expect their players to be part of a match day squad, without off loading a few.   

Garrymanilow said:

Set piece routines are increasingly complex and varied. That's why you have a set piece coach, if the job was just 'cross that ball onto that bloke's head and he scores' then the role would never have developed. Knibbs' goal was part of a routine; Coventry played the ball over the keeper deep to the back post where it's hard to defend because it's so close to the line. Difficult to get hold of Jones if he's nearly off the pitch. In the meantime Docherty was a little gremlin blocking off the second man near Jones and then the keeper. Knibbs moved into the space where a knockdown was due and put it in. Classic set piece routine that will have been worked on in training.

I've been watching our corners & free kicks for far too long to think the delivery last Saturday was purposely made to go to tte far post & almost out of play. 

The one thing you get to remember when you dont go to games & have to rely on Twitter for updates is the number of times you read.....

"Charlton have a corner. Coventry takes. Comes to nothing". Virtually every time. Sometimes it might be varied with the corner taker.....and might even vary with the outcome, but only with the words..."goes out of play" or "keeper catches easily". 

soapboxsam said:

The reason Charlton are now a Championship side and not a League 1 team is because at the business end of last season we scored from set pieces. 
Godden again from open play but a vital component was putting the ball into the danger area from a dead ball.

Not just at Wembley from Gillesphey but a set pieces at the covered end when Macca scored from the sub Gilbert's corner plus the two Gilbert corners in the late, late show at Orient which gave our campaign such momentum. 
First Macca then Ramsay with headers and this for me was the match when we really believed we could ride the wave all the way to Wembley.

I think to call it “the reason” is a bit strong , but that Orient game was important .  

Garrymanilow said:

golfaddick said:

Garrymanilow said:

Set piece routines are increasingly complex and varied. That's why you have a set piece coach, if the job was just 'cross that ball onto that bloke's head and he scores' then the role would never have developed. Knibbs' goal was part of a routine; Coventry played the ball over the keeper deep to the back post where it's hard to defend because it's so close to the line. Difficult to get hold of Jones if he's nearly off the pitch. In the meantime Docherty was a little gremlin blocking off the second man near Jones and then the keeper. Knibbs moved into the space where a knockdown was due and put it in. Classic set piece routine that will have been worked on in training.

I've been watching our corners & free kicks for far too long to think the delivery last Saturday was purposely made to go to tte far post & almost out of play. 

The one thing you get to remember when you dont go to games & have to rely on Twitter for updates is the number of times you read.....

"Charlton have a corner. Coventry takes. Comes to nothing". Virtually every time. Sometimes it might be varied with the corner taker.....and might even vary with the outcome, but only with the words..."goes out of play" or "keeper catches easily". 

About 3% of corners lead to goals in the top 5 leagues If you're talking about a direct goal from a corner, so cross to head to goal, it's 1.5%. It's really hard to score a goal from a corner, the best players in world can barely do it. The fact that Twitter confirms this isn't a Charlton issue, it's a not understanding that corners very, very rarely lead to goals in football matches even if you bang a drum right before they're taken issue.

And the club noted as the best in the world at them right now is Arsenal. What has it got them? They haven't won a trophy since the 2020 FA Cup

soapboxsam said:

The reason Charlton are now a Championship side and not a League 1 team is because at the business end of last season we scored from set pieces. 
Godden again from open play but a vital component was putting the ball into the danger area from a dead ball.

Not just at Wembley from Gillesphey but a set pieces at the covered end when Macca scored from the sub Gilbert's corner plus the two Gilbert corners in the late, late show at Orient which gave our campaign such momentum. 
First Macca then Ramsay with headers and this for me was the match when we really believed we could ride the wave all the way to Wembley.

Defiantly the Orient game, people start believing, but I also think Bolton away was another, as we normally get battered by them at their ground, and to go behind, as we did against Orient, and then come back late on, as we did against Orient... I'm seeing a theme here

Orient must hate us, 92nd min winner at home, 2 90+min goals away and a winner at Wembley to get promoted, who'd be a football fan, eh!

I personally started to believe after Huddersfield at home, prior to that, I was still insisting on a mid-table finish as I was waiting for the "inevitable" fall-off after such a good run.

Before we had Lloyd Jones i reckon we conceded from more than 1.5% of corners against us.

He is a colossus. 

wmcf123 said:

Char1t0n said:

soapboxsam said:

The reason Charlton are now a Championship side and not a League 1 team is because at the business end of last season we scored from set pieces. 
Godden again from open play but a vital component was putting the ball into the danger area from a dead ball.

Not just at Wembley from Gillesphey but a set pieces at the covered end when Macca scored from the sub Gilbert's corner plus the two Gilbert corners in the late, late show at Orient which gave our campaign such momentum. 
First Macca then Ramsay with headers and this for me was the match when we really believed we could ride the wave all the way to Wembley.

Defiantly the Orient game, people start believing, but I also think Bolton away was another, as we normally get battered by them at their ground, and to go behind, as we did against Orient, and then come back late on, as we did against Orient... I'm seeing a theme here

Orient must hate us, 92nd min winner at home, 2 90+min goals away and a winner at Wembley to get promoted, who'd be a football fan, eh!

I personally started to believe after Huddersfield at home, prior to that, I was still insisting on a mid-table finish as I was waiting for the "inevitable" fall-off after such a good run.

Equally, there wasn’t anything special about those corners at Orient - if AMB had let 2 over his head like that, we’d have been fuming .  I would assume set piece coaches are as much about defending them as anything - there’s nothing groundbreaking about kicking the ball into the penalty area - ideally flat but clearing the first man.  They were praising the Arsenal guy a couple of years ago but the facts were that Rice and Saka were delivering the perfect corners 

Much more complicated than that, it’s about routines. Watch the goal from Saturday back, Doc moves at the perfect time to block off the keeper so that Jones can apply the pressure for the header back and also to drag a marker out of the centre of the goal. It’s all choreographed. You need good delivery too but that’s useless without the right movement.  

Garrymanilow said:

golfaddick said:

Garrymanilow said:

Set piece routines are increasingly complex and varied. That's why you have a set piece coach, if the job was just 'cross that ball onto that bloke's head and he scores' then the role would never have developed. Knibbs' goal was part of a routine; Coventry played the ball over the keeper deep to the back post where it's hard to defend because it's so close to the line. Difficult to get hold of Jones if he's nearly off the pitch. In the meantime Docherty was a little gremlin blocking off the second man near Jones and then the keeper. Knibbs moved into the space where a knockdown was due and put it in. Classic set piece routine that will have been worked on in training.

I've been watching our corners & free kicks for far too long to think the delivery last Saturday was purposely made to go to tte far post & almost out of play. 

The one thing you get to remember when you dont go to games & have to rely on Twitter for updates is the number of times you read.....

"Charlton have a corner. Coventry takes. Comes to nothing". Virtually every time. Sometimes it might be varied with the corner taker.....and might even vary with the outcome, but only with the words..."goes out of play" or "keeper catches easily". 

About 3% of corners lead to goals in the top 5 leagues If you're talking about a direct goal from a corner, so cross to head to goal, it's 1.5%. It's really hard to score a goal from a corner, the best players in world can barely do it. The fact that Twitter confirms this isn't a Charlton issue, it's a not understanding that corners very, very rarely lead to goals in football matches even if you bang a drum right before they're taken issue.

The analyst in me has a lot of issues with this because it has no context of how football is played across the continent. Here in England, there is a greater focus on set-pieces, how we put the ball in the box, the areas we aim for, the type of delivery, the need for a specialised set-piece coach, and how in other countries they focus more on possession and playing a short corner or free kick. In England, if there a free kick from 35-40 yards, it will likely go in the box, across the continent it's more likely to be passed and get into the flow of the game again. The importance of being good at them, offensively and defensively is greater here in England. We see far more often in this country where the difference in games is more often the success of a set-piece. So although on the whole it might be a low percentage, but it's not applicable entirely.

soapboxsam said:

wmcf123 said:

soapboxsam said:

The reason Charlton are now a Championship side and not a League 1 team is because at the business end of last season we scored from set pieces. 
Godden again from open play but a vital component was putting the ball into the danger area from a dead ball.

Not just at Wembley from Gillesphey but a set pieces at the covered end when Macca scored from the sub Gilbert's corner plus the two Gilbert corners in the late, late show at Orient which gave our campaign such momentum. 
First Macca then Ramsay with headers and this for me was the match when we really believed we could ride the wave all the way to Wembley.

I think to call it “the reason” is a bit strong , but that Orient game was important .  

An important component in our success was not only Macca's free kick goal at Wembley and the important free kicks in the Orient away game and the other late Gilbert assist but the defending of set pieces which also helped with the 25 odd clean sheets were definitely a reason for being in the championship now.
We spend a lot of time out of possession that closing down is another big reason why we were successful last campaign. The blocks were  from all players but the two from Ramsay in a couple of seconds epitomised the players resolve to protect our goal.

Obviously the powerful will to succeed and mentality came from Nathan and sorting out the shape after the first 18 games or so and the rest is history of our strong 2nd half to the 24/25 season.

Was nothing to do with any of that, I started going to more games after Christmas so it was all down to me