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Coaching changes - Brayne left, Hylton promoted

SELR_addicks
SELR_addicks Posts: 15,524
edited August 12 in General Charlton

Charlton Athletic can announce that James Brayne has left the club to take up a new role at Premier League side Sunderland, with Danny Hylton promoted to Set-Piece Coach and First-Team Coach.

Brayne initially joined Charlton as the club’s Individual Development Coach in March 2024 before being promoted to Set Piece Coach and First-Team Coach that summer.

Hylton joined the Addicks as Player-Coach in September 2024 before transitioning to a full-time member of the men's first-team's coaching staff following his retirement in June.

Charlton Manager Nathan Jones said: "James is a very good coach who has progressed during his time at the football club. He came in to a development coaching role with no first-team experience and we saw what he could do and took a leap of faith, and he repaid that faith and played his part in our promotion-winning season. He’s a great lad, has been an excellent part of our coaching team and he goes with our best wishes.

"It is important we always have a succession plan in place, not just with players but with staff too. We have a history of educating and promoting from within, as we did with James. We earmarked Danny Hylton a long time ago as someone we wanted in our coaching environment and someone we wanted to give more responsibility to, and he is the natural successor to James. He’s someone we know very well and has the knowledge and ability to thrive in his new role."

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  • sam3110
    sam3110 Posts: 21,439
    Set pieces became a huge part of our success, hope it doesn't affect us too much
  • GreenWithEnvy
    GreenWithEnvy Posts: 1,851
    Just as we were getting going with our set pieces. Good luck to him at Sunderland and hopefully Hylts can make the step up quickly.
  • Henry Irving
    Henry Irving Posts: 85,358
    That's very sudden. 

    Bryne was profiled in the handbook with the other coaches.
  • swords_alive
    swords_alive Posts: 4,337
    There goes any chance of staying up.
  • clive
    clive Posts: 19,655

    Sunderland AFC is pleased to announce the appointment of Assistant Coach, James Brayne.

    Moving to Wearside from Charlton Athletic, Brayne joins Régis Le Bris’ backroom staff ahead of the 2025-26 Premier League season to lead the first-team’s set-piece coaching.

    https://www.safc.com/news/2025/august/12/james-brayne-appointed-set-piece-coach/

  • sam3110
    sam3110 Posts: 21,439
    The fact he's been headhunted by a PL team means we were doing something right. Hope we got come compo out of them at least
  • LoOkOuT
    LoOkOuT Posts: 10,890
    Brayne drain is inevitable once you're dealing with people who have proven they're very capable.

    I'm sure Hylton will bring some experience and nous (particularly in the dark arts) into role. Congrats Danny.
  • eaststandmike
    eaststandmike Posts: 14,956
    sam3110 said:
    The fact he's been headhunted by a PL team means we were doing something right. Hope we got come compo out of them at least
    Where does it state he was headhunted?
  • SELR_addicks
    SELR_addicks Posts: 15,524
    eaststandmike said:
    sam3110 said:
    The fact he's been headhunted by a PL team means we were doing something right. Hope we got come compo out of them at least
    Where does it state he was headhunted?
    If we signed a player and then they were signed by a PL team, you'd think we'd/they'd done something well enough to get promoted. 
  • sam3110
    sam3110 Posts: 21,439
    eaststandmike said:
    sam3110 said:
    The fact he's been headhunted by a PL team means we were doing something right. Hope we got come compo out of them at least
    Where does it state he was headhunted?
    Well they've decided to sign him whilst he's under contract to us... I can't imagine we've let him walk for the job

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  • eaststandmike
    eaststandmike Posts: 14,956
    sam3110 said:
    eaststandmike said:
    sam3110 said:
    The fact he's been headhunted by a PL team means we were doing something right. Hope we got come compo out of them at least
    Where does it state he was headhunted?
    Well they've decided to sign him whilst he's under contract to us... I can't imagine we've let him walk for the job
    He’s an employee not a player, could be any number of reasons he wanted to leave his employment and an amicable agreement was reached 

    Much like Tracey Leaburn deciding to leave I doubt we got compensation for either of them 
  • sam3110
    sam3110 Posts: 21,439
    eaststandmike said:
    sam3110 said:
    eaststandmike said:
    sam3110 said:
    The fact he's been headhunted by a PL team means we were doing something right. Hope we got come compo out of them at least
    Where does it state he was headhunted?
    Well they've decided to sign him whilst he's under contract to us... I can't imagine we've let him walk for the job
    He’s an employee not a player, could be any number of reasons he wanted to leave his employment and an amicable agreement was reached 

    Much like Tracey Leaburn deciding to leave I doubt we got compensation for either of them 
    I'd be amazed if a coach's contract is more like a player liaison's work contract than a footballer's contract
  • shine166
    shine166 Posts: 13,947
    eaststandmike said:
    sam3110 said:
    eaststandmike said:
    sam3110 said:
    The fact he's been headhunted by a PL team means we were doing something right. Hope we got come compo out of them at least
    Where does it state he was headhunted?
    Well they've decided to sign him whilst he's under contract to us... I can't imagine we've let him walk for the job
    He’s an employee not a player, could be any number of reasons he wanted to leave his employment and an amicable agreement was reached 

    Much like Tracey Leaburn deciding to leave I doubt we got compensation for either of them 
    Yeah but she's not left for another club out of the blue has she, very different situation. 
  • Mendonca In Asdas
    Mendonca In Asdas Posts: 22,676
    Its a shame, but at least its not Preston!
  • fenaddick
    fenaddick Posts: 12,019
    Just great to have had someone at the club who seems to be PL standard, we tend to promote from within so wonder if Hylton’s replacement will come from the academy 
  • mendonca
    mendonca Posts: 9,438
    Thanks and congrats on your move, Brayne.

    You could make a case for Lloyd Jones being our set piece coach in both boxes!
  • eaststandmike
    eaststandmike Posts: 14,956
    sam3110 said:
    eaststandmike said:
    sam3110 said:
    eaststandmike said:
    sam3110 said:
    The fact he's been headhunted by a PL team means we were doing something right. Hope we got come compo out of them at least
    Where does it state he was headhunted?
    Well they've decided to sign him whilst he's under contract to us... I can't imagine we've let him walk for the job
    He’s an employee not a player, could be any number of reasons he wanted to leave his employment and an amicable agreement was reached 

    Much like Tracey Leaburn deciding to leave I doubt we got compensation for either of them 
    I'd be amazed if a coach's contract is more like a player liaison's work contract than a footballer's contract
    I wasn’t comparing his role to Tracey’s, more the circumstances around them both leaving.

    We will have to agree to disagree but I personally don’t think we would have received compensation for him 
  • robroy
    robroy Posts: 4,463
    I do think first team coaches are very different to just an employee, they probably had to pay the remainder of his contract up or the release clause. Will be peanuts though. 
  • bobmunro
    bobmunro Posts: 20,989
    edited August 12
    robroy said:
    I do think first team coaches are very different to just an employee, they probably had to pay the remainder of his contract up or the release clause. Will be peanuts though. 

    No.

    Head Coach/Manager are on different contracts, these may be based on LMA templates as a start point although that isn't always the case. In my experience, other coaches within the first team or academy set-ups are routinely on a standard Contract of Employment.
  • Mendonca In Asdas
    Mendonca In Asdas Posts: 22,676
    edited August 12
    Would love to know over the course of a season what percentage / how many of our goals are scored from set pieces?

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  • DOUCHER
    DOUCHER Posts: 7,972
    I’d say it’s more a case of making room for Hilton rather than the other way round but I’m only guessing 
  • fenaddick
    fenaddick Posts: 12,019
    DOUCHER said:
    I’d say it’s more a case of making room for Hilton rather than the other way round but I’m only guessing 
    Yes we asked Sunderland to take one of our coaches so that Hylton (who was already a coach) could take his role
  • ForeverAddickted
    ForeverAddickted Posts: 95,238
    We're going to get so many Red Cards:

    Hylton: Right what you want to do lads, is when the corner comes in, swing an arm at your marker
    Anderson: Erm... Dont think thats allowed Danny?
    Hylton: Shut up, and gimme your lunch money
  • DOUCHER
    DOUCHER Posts: 7,972
    edited August 12
    fenaddick said:
    DOUCHER said:
    I’d say it’s more a case of making room for Hilton rather than the other way round but I’m only guessing 
    Yes we asked Sunderland to take one of our coaches so that Hylton (who was already a coach) could take his role
    Hylton was employed as a player coach and is now a full time coach so presumably has more time on his hands than last season, smarty pants 
  • fenaddick
    fenaddick Posts: 12,019
    DOUCHER said:
    fenaddick said:
    DOUCHER said:
    I’d say it’s more a case of making room for Hilton rather than the other way round but I’m only guessing 
    Yes we asked Sunderland to take one of our coaches so that Hylton (who was already a coach) could take his role
    Hylton was employed as a player coach and is now a full time coach so presumably has more time on his hands than last season, smarty pants 
    But we all know he was mainly a coach, he was  often seen at away games going up to do the video analysis. He played 2 hours of football for us over the season. I get that he had to train etc. too but he was mainly a coach and we are now one staff member down however you look at it
  • Charlton and on
    Charlton and on Posts: 993
    Joining a prem team that's likely to get relegated might be a very short-term move.
  • PaddyP17
    PaddyP17 Posts: 13,054
    bobmunro said:
    robroy said:
    I do think first team coaches are very different to just an employee, they probably had to pay the remainder of his contract up or the release clause. Will be peanuts though. 

    No.

    Head Coach/Manager are on different contracts, these may be based on LMA templates as a start point although that isn't always the case. In my experience, other coaches within the first team or academy set-ups are routinely on a standard Contract of Employment.
    Yeah this is the case. My firm has done a few coaching appointments for English football clubs and very few non-playing staff outside of managers/head coaches are on FTCs in the same manner as players are.

    Release clauses in some form are more likely to exist though, to provide protection/insulation from scenarios like this, but they won't exactly be massive "transfer fees".
  • thenewbie
    thenewbie Posts: 11,042
    DOUCHER said:
    fenaddick said:
    DOUCHER said:
    I’d say it’s more a case of making room for Hilton rather than the other way round but I’m only guessing 
    Yes we asked Sunderland to take one of our coaches so that Hylton (who was already a coach) could take his role
    Hylton was employed as a player coach and is now a full time coach so presumably has more time on his hands than last season, smarty pants 
    Right, but that's not really the flawed part of your logic. At what point in this apparent plan to promote Hylton did anyone ring up Sunderland and ask if they needed a new assistant coach as we have a spare?
  • stoneroses19
    stoneroses19 Posts: 7,324
    Not quite coaching, but could be a big loss. 


  • killerandflash
    killerandflash Posts: 70,121
    sam3110 said:
    Set pieces became a huge part of our success, hope it doesn't affect us too much
    Of course it's not all down to the change, but we had SO many decent positions today, and the delivery was dreadful. And even when the delivery was ok, the opposition know what we like to do. We need more options than just aiming the ball towards Lloyd Jones.

    The long throws were hopeless too. There seemed to be no obvious signs that the players had worked on what to do with the throws, other than hoping for something to happen.

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