The current plan is to monetise everything it seems.
Needs to be at a price that makes it feasible. Not like the club will get all that money some would go to the school and some go big parking. Given the lack of parking around the ground, this is a good compromise
On-street parking revenue in the UK must be used in accordance with the Road Traffic Regulation Act 1984 (RTRA 1984). Specifically, the income can be used to cover the costs of parking management, including enforcement, maintenance of parking facilities, and traffic management improvements. Surpluses from parking operations can be used for other transport-related purposes, such as public transport schemes or highway improvements. However, it's unlawful for local authorities to set parking charges with the primary goal of generating general revenue for other services.
We know you know your onions on local authority regulation. LBG aren't allowed to directly spend the parking taxes on non transport budgets. But we car users are still the softest target for cash revenue. If the enhanced surpluses are ringfenced for potholes, maintenance etc, there's more of the borough's overall budget for everything else. I don't suppose the elevated parking taxes will make LBG's roads self funding but we drivers remain a simple source of cash. The officers can chalk up an easy win and the politicians can smugly bleat on about the (highly debatable) green credentials. Meanwhile Charlton's businesses suffer the consequences of diminished footfall.
This season is an absolute free hit for LBG where CAFC is concerned cos they'll know fine well that attendances will be higher this season than last (til Christmas at least) and that will help to mask the reduction in people coming to games, whose only option is cars. CAFC need to be banging down LBG's doors reminding the lazy opportunists how important CAFC is to the whole borough.
I doubt if RBG or its councillors see Charlton fans as a revenue opportunity or have any understanding of the unsuitability of public transport options for many fans. I doubt if the club management has much grasp of the issues, either, to be honest.
Season parking in the Valley car park on match days last year was £690 or individual games £45. This did not include cup games or the play-off semi. This year there were no places being sold at the Valley (mainly due to the (not so) Fun Zone.
I've bought tickets for the game at Bristol City next Saturday. Looked online at Justpark and a few of the "regulated" parking sites such as schools & car parks were £15. Off street parking (I imagine peoples drives etc) varied from £12 to £40 !
I booked what looks like a rugby club car park for £10 about a 10 min walk away. Seems the going rate by looks of things.
I've bought tickets for the game at Bristol City next Saturday. Looked online at Justpark and a few of the "regulated" parking sites such as schools & car parks were £15. Off street parking (I imagine peoples drives etc) varied from £12 to £40 !
I booked what looks like a rugby club car park for £10 about a 10 min walk away. Seems the going rate by looks of things.
I’ve had the same issue Golfie, where did you book and was it through JustPark?
£15 is cheaper than a fine, a return train ticket for the whole family from Gravesend or what you'd pay in, for instance, The Valley car park
Yes all true.
But when you go on a day trip do you rock up at say Herne Bay or Brighton and think £15 to park that’s ok?
For 5-6 hours parking? Yes.
Parking in Bournemouth at The Pavillion is £21 for 6 hours for instance.
Parking at Westfield Stratford for up to 6 hours is £19.10, over 6 is £25.30
Incidentally an all day parking pass in some places in Herne Bay is indeed £15, so yes I'd say it's ok.
A half-day on the beach front in Brighton is £17.20, 4 hours at the shops is £16.60
Well I stand corrected. (Albeit I don’t think people think it’s ok).
Two wrongs don’t make a right.
I park in Herne Bay for free by the way within 5 mins walk of the ‘arcades’ for what it’s worth.
I guess my point is there doesn’t need to be profit in the parking for the club.
But if that’s going to be the going rate RBG will win and more will go with the public transport options. The few extra spaces will be used nonetheless I’m sure.
As others suggested some sort of arrangement on Woolwich common might be an idea once demand is consistently confirmed.
Now what can you do about the 20mph speed limit near that extra parking! 😉😆
The club trying to take profit on off-site parking is the same nonsense as trying to break even on Valley Express - a way of reducing its own ticket revenue.
Is the option disappearing to park the other side of Charlton Park?
It was always a bit of a slog back up the hill after the match (handy for me exiting Harvey Gardens from the East Stand), which might be a struggle for some. But never struggled to park around that area, and then just had to deal with Shooters Hill traffic back to the A2
The club trying to take profit on off-site parking is the same nonsense as trying to break even on Valley Express - a way of reducing its own ticket revenue.
Agree
The way to go about this is to maximise attendance in the ground. Forgetting the years I was boycotting, since I'd say 2013 it has got harder and harder to reliably get to and from games be that driving or by virtue of southeastern/network rail mucking about
I'm not in anyway way qualified in the running of football clubs, at least not as much as anyone else is. What I'd say is engagement with police, the local council, train network operators is absolutely key to enabling people to regularly habitually attend games. I used to be one who would scoff at people doing what I'd see as making excuses for not going whereas now I can't safely do my days work with the little sleep I'd get returning home at midnight and being up at 5.30, weekday games are infinitely harder for me to attend than they were so whilst I don't like not going be that when we are shit or times like now its a grudgingly easy decision to not go which also means I'm less likely to buy a season ticket it I cant attend that many games.
By all means facilitate parking and I'll gladly give money to a school, factory, fire station, whatever within sensible reason to park if I drive but don't use it as a revenue stream
Is the option disappearing to park the other side of Charlton Park?
It was always a bit of a slog back up the hill after the match (handy for me exiting Harvey Gardens from the East Stand), which might be a struggle for some. But never struggled to park around that area, and then just had to deal with Shooters Hill traffic back to the A2
Ok for now. But whole of Charlton will be CPZ in latest forward thinking proposal by Greenwich Council.
Rumours coming out of a meeting at Woolwich Town Hall this evening that the council have abandoned plans for CPZ's in two areas Plumstead & Shooters Hill, maybe with enough public pressure the council will withdraw their plans for other areas.
Bloody great result!!! Get in. Well done to all those that protested!
We keep our proposals under constant review. Therefore, we have reconsidered our Sustainable Streets proposals and are adjusting our consultation to focus on the four areas we think could benefit most from the Sustainable Streets scheme.
This means we will be withdrawing the proposals in respect of Shooters Hill and Plumstead areas. The consultation in respect of these areas is closed and we will not be bringing forward permit parking proposals in these areas. This will have no bearing on already existing CPZs in those areas....
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Just park at B&Q, 4 hours for free, or Maccies, 3 hours free
Compared to the free on street that we were all used to, it’s a joke.
In the context of more than one person in that car, relative to the cost of public transport, it’s fairly good value.
Either way, if there is an issue, it’s wholly with RBG, and not the football club.
But when you go on a day trip do you rock up at say Herne Bay or Brighton and think £15 to park that’s ok?
Parking in Bournemouth at The Pavillion is £21 for 6 hours for instance.
Parking at Westfield Stratford for up to 6 hours is £19.10, over 6 is £25.30
Incidentally an all day parking pass in some places in Herne Bay is indeed £15, so yes I'd say it's ok.
A half-day on the beach front in Brighton is £17.20, 4 hours at the shops is £16.60
I booked what looks like a rugby club car park for £10 about a 10 min walk away. Seems the going rate by looks of things.
£15-£30 to park your car! 😢
It was always a bit of a slog back up the hill after the match (handy for me exiting Harvey Gardens from the East Stand), which might be a struggle for some. But never struggled to park around that area, and then just had to deal with Shooters Hill traffic back to the A2
The way to go about this is to maximise attendance in the ground. Forgetting the years I was boycotting, since I'd say 2013 it has got harder and harder to reliably get to and from games be that driving or by virtue of southeastern/network rail mucking about
I'm not in anyway way qualified in the running of football clubs, at least not as much as anyone else is. What I'd say is engagement with police, the local council, train network operators is absolutely key to enabling people to regularly habitually attend games. I used to be one who would scoff at people doing what I'd see as making excuses for not going whereas now I can't safely do my days work with the little sleep I'd get returning home at midnight and being up at 5.30, weekday games are infinitely harder for me to attend than they were so whilst I don't like not going be that when we are shit or times like now its a grudgingly easy decision to not go which also means I'm less likely to buy a season ticket it I cant attend that many games.
By all means facilitate parking and I'll gladly give money to a school, factory, fire station, whatever within sensible reason to park if I drive but don't use it as a revenue stream