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Deadline Day from Pg.641 - Summer 2025 Charlton Athletic Transfer Rumours
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As you move up the leagues players are better. They look like they have more time on the ball because they actually do. That’s because they find more space and have a better first touch. That’s and the fact that their teammates find them with better balls in better positions.Southbank said:
I suspect that there are players in the Champ who look like they have more time on the ball simply because they are better players. It is a mark of better players in whatever position that they look like they have more time than others. Whether any of our midfielders have that quality is another matter. I have not seen it yet.Bedsaddick said:
I hate to say it but RM is correct. There will be more time on the ball in The Championship but it's what we do with it that counts. I also thing Terry Taylor hasn't been given a chance under Jones and when he was he performed pretty well but that was League one.AberystwythAddick said:
What are talking about more time on the ball. The championship you have even less time on the ball the pressing from teams is relentless. Everything needs to be a couple of seconds quicker to survive in this leagueRonnieMoore said:Think Taylor style of play may be more suited to the championship having a little more time on the ball then league one … saying that I don’t expect him to stay once fit ..2 -
That argument completely takes away the fact that defenders are better and make it harder to find that space. Modern pressing also means that space disappears in a flash. Interestingly in the CAST webinar last night all 3 journalists said that the Championship is a much quicker league, I’m tempted to believe themShootersHillGuru said:
As you move up the leagues players are better. They look like they have more time on the ball because they actually do. That’s because they find more space and have a better first touch. That’s and the fact that their teammates find them with better balls in better positions.Southbank said:
I suspect that there are players in the Champ who look like they have more time on the ball simply because they are better players. It is a mark of better players in whatever position that they look like they have more time than others. Whether any of our midfielders have that quality is another matter. I have not seen it yet.Bedsaddick said:
I hate to say it but RM is correct. There will be more time on the ball in The Championship but it's what we do with it that counts. I also thing Terry Taylor hasn't been given a chance under Jones and when he was he performed pretty well but that was League one.AberystwythAddick said:
What are talking about more time on the ball. The championship you have even less time on the ball the pressing from teams is relentless. Everything needs to be a couple of seconds quicker to survive in this leagueRonnieMoore said:Think Taylor style of play may be more suited to the championship having a little more time on the ball then league one … saying that I don’t expect him to stay once fit ..1 -
If you break it down the heatmaps are essentially the same10 -
Apart from the goalkeeper jersey, these days I don’t think you can read too much into the squad numbers (well with Ahadme @ 9 hopefully we can’t)
2025/26 squad numbers:
1. Thomas Kaminski
2. Kayne Ramsay
3. Macaulay Gillesphey
4. Alex Mitchell
5. Lloyd Jones
6. Conor Coventry
7. Tyreece Campbell
8. Luke Berry
9. Gassan Ahadme
10. Greg Docherty
11. Miles Leaburn
12. Terry Taylor
13. Kaheim Dixon
14. Sonny Carey
16. Josh Edwards
17. Amari’i Bell
18. Karoy Anderson
20. Zach Mitchell
21. Ashley Maynard-Brewer
22. Tanto Olaofe
23. Charlie Kelman
24. Matty Godden
25. Will Mannion
26. Joe Rankin-Costello
29. Daniel Kanu
30. Rob Apter
31. Tommy Reid
32. Reece Burke
33. Micah Mbick
34. Kai Enslin
35. Alan Mwamba
36. Keenan Gough
37. Ibrahim Fullah
38. Josh Laqeretabua
39. Henry Rylah
41. Harvey Knibbs5 -
Terry Taylor probably has the best passing range at the club.Chunes said:TT's passing is arguably a lot better and more probing than Coventry's, but I don't think NJ wants a deep-lying playmaker in that role because we don't play through the lines.
What's massively let him down is his injury issues, had he got a longer run in the team I think he would be starting or at the very least be on our bench.
Terry Taylor is our best centre midfield to cover Coventry or play with him if Costello is out and Knibbs plays the 10. He's genuinely a good defensive midfielder who can play.
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So he’s the fourth choiceBraziliance said:
Terry Taylor probably has the best passing range at the club.Chunes said:TT's passing is arguably a lot better and more probing than Coventry's, but I don't think NJ wants a deep-lying playmaker in that role because we don't play through the lines.
What's massively let him down is his injury issues, had he got a longer run in the team I think he would be starting or at the very least be on our bench.
Terry Taylor is our best centre midfield to cover Coventry or play with him if Costello is out and Knibbs plays the 10. He's genuinely a good defensive midfielder who can play.0 -
We've kept some key shirt numbers for some not-so-key players.
My thinking is that NJ has told them to work for it again and/or numbers aren't important, it's the performance and you will keep your place regardless of the number.0 -
Well Knibbs is going to be our best player, Coventry is our engine, Costello has performed at a Champ level, no shame being behind those 3.AberystwythAddick said:
So he’s the fourth choiceBraziliance said:
Terry Taylor probably has the best passing range at the club.Chunes said:TT's passing is arguably a lot better and more probing than Coventry's, but I don't think NJ wants a deep-lying playmaker in that role because we don't play through the lines.
What's massively let him down is his injury issues, had he got a longer run in the team I think he would be starting or at the very least be on our bench.
Terry Taylor is our best centre midfield to cover Coventry or play with him if Costello is out and Knibbs plays the 10. He's genuinely a good defensive midfielder who can play.
If he got his chance here he would be rated. That's just how football goes sometimes.
Jones and Macca didn't look great to start with, particularly Macca, now Macca is accepted as a good player by the majority of Charlton fans.
Terry will do very well for a League 1 side if he can stay fit, and he has Championship potential. Done very well at Northampton last season in his role.1 -
Do remember him playing in that role for Tranmerecafcsinger said:Lazy research from me, but has Apter ever played RWB for Blackpool?0 -
I would of thought Apter will be playing a similar role to Small which is more attacking with the rest of our defence tucking over into a back 41
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What Nathan Jones has done this window and since he joined the club is to recruit players to fit a system - defensively we were tighter than a gnat's chuff last season and that will be the case this year although I'm not expecting 26 clean sheets or whatever it was. The defenders we've signed this window have that thin red line you will not get past me feel about them. Out wide he likes a bit of pace and some accuracy when crossing/shooting and everybody must have a bit of physique and be as well organised and possess the same work ethic work as a either Stakhanovite or last year's Sniffer Dog. He hasn't once ventured outside this template in any of the players he has signed.
Does Terry Taylor fit into his playing system? I don't see it, a shame he seems a good bloke and he's not devoid of talent just that he doesn't seem to be a square peg for a square hole. I don't see him scrapping for the ball in midfield in the manner of Coventry or Docherty.
The problem is that any club coming in for him will be League One level and won't be able to match the same wages as we're currently paying him, so it's likely he'll be loaned out rather than sold unless he wants to take a pay cut.1 -
Poor Tezza.FSLN1 said:What Nathan Jones has done this window and since he joined the club is to recruit players to fit a system - defensively we were tighter than a gnat's chuff last season and that will be the case this year although I'm not expecting 26 clean sheets or whatever it was. The defenders we've signed this window have that thin red line you will not get past me feel about them. Out wide he likes a bit of pace and some accuracy when crossing/shooting and everybody must have a bit of physique and be as well organised and possess the same work ethic work as a either Stakhanovite or last year's Sniffer Dog. He hasn't once ventured outside this template in any of the players he has signed.
Does Terry Taylor fit into his playing system? I don't see it, a shame he seems a good bloke and he's not devoid of talent just that he doesn't seem to be a square peg for a square hole. I don't see him scrapping for the ball in midfield in the manner of Coventry or Docherty.
The problem is that any club coming in for him will be League One level and won't be able to match the same wages as we're currently paying him, so it's likely he'll be loaned out rather than sold unless he wants to take a pay cut.
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Taylor is one of those players where I think he's a perfectly good player, but it's just not worked out for reasons completely aside from his ability.
He has been really unlucky with injuries, his direct competition is arguably our best player (Coventry) and now we've been promoted without him ever getting a chance to prove what he can do.
I think honestly letting him go would be doing him a favor if it means he can establish himself and restart his career a bit.7 -
Same with McGrandles. Decent L1 player who didn't work out for us. Was good at Lincoln, good on loan at Cambridge and then has gone on to be good at Lincoln again. I think Taylor will go somewhere in L1 and be good there but it's not realistically going to happen herethenewbie said:Taylor is one of those players where I think he's a perfectly good player, but it's just not worked out for reasons completely aside from his ability.
He has been really unlucky with injuries, his direct competition is arguably our best player (Coventry) and now we've been promoted without him ever getting a chance to prove what he can do.
I think honestly letting him go would be doing him a favor if it means he can establish himself and restart his career a bit.4 -
Hmm...you've produced a heat map and some stats when he was playing for Northampton, that's not really conclusive.
Out of interest how does his heat map/stats compare with Conor Coventry? And how does it compare in the matches he played for Charlton and not Northampton Town? I'd prefer to compare like with like here - after all one team barely escaped relegation, the other got promoted so I think you might need a bit more than a gimmick to persuade me he's a better player than either of those two players
Still, good luck in persuading Nathan Jones to drop Doc or Coventry in favour of Terry Taylor...if you genuinely think he should be starting ahead of either Coventry or Doc then I'd like to see your reasoning, a few stats when playing for another club tell me absolutely nothing.
Ultimately they fit into NJ's system while TT doesn't, that's why I assume he was loaned out last season.
For me, Doc and Coventry start over him every time.
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I have not read every item and I apologise for that but can someone explain why Will Mannion who was our first choice goalkeeper last season is now only third choice.0
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He’s injured so he may well be second choicecallowendaddick said:I have not read every item and I apologise for that but can someone explain why Will Mannion who was our first choice goalkeeper last season is now only third choice.0 -
We will likely play a 3-5-2 with Apter RWB.
But if it makes you feel better you can also consider it a 4-2-3-1 with Apter RW (and TC or Olaofe LW) given how high up Apter will play.2 -
Just realised that was whilst playing for Northampton.Braziliance said:
Poor Tezza.FSLN1 said:What Nathan Jones has done this window and since he joined the club is to recruit players to fit a system - defensively we were tighter than a gnat's chuff last season and that will be the case this year although I'm not expecting 26 clean sheets or whatever it was. The defenders we've signed this window have that thin red line you will not get past me feel about them. Out wide he likes a bit of pace and some accuracy when crossing/shooting and everybody must have a bit of physique and be as well organised and possess the same work ethic work as a either Stakhanovite or last year's Sniffer Dog. He hasn't once ventured outside this template in any of the players he has signed.
Does Terry Taylor fit into his playing system? I don't see it, a shame he seems a good bloke and he's not devoid of talent just that he doesn't seem to be a square peg for a square hole. I don't see him scrapping for the ball in midfield in the manner of Coventry or Docherty.
The problem is that any club coming in for him will be League One level and won't be able to match the same wages as we're currently paying him, so it's likely he'll be loaned out rather than sold unless he wants to take a pay cut.
Taylor is a good player. Probably as good as Docherty. But he isn’t as good as Docherty in playing the way Jones wants to play which is pressing high and working hard off the ball.Taylor under another manager would undoubtedly look a better player than Docherty because his passing and set play distribution are so strong.
Jones likes players who are relentless off the ball and Taylor isn’t that. I would be staggered if we ever see him in a Charlton shirt again.8 -
I'm just going by what his previous manager (a certain Steve Bruce) said. Said he was an old fashioned winger who likes to take people on.TheHerminator said:
Yea all a bit odd this isn't it. He's literally been brought in to play there yet people think he's going to suddenly be playing up front?TeeC said:I’m finding it surprising the number of people who still haven’t realised Apter is our first choice RWB for the next 46 league games
Happy to be wrong & just hope people dont slate him when he fails to defend properly
Small was a defender who by luck/ necessity was played further upfield and it worked (to a certain degree).
I see Apter as a winger who will asked to defend.9 - Sponsored links:
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So no history or experience in playing as a WB.RonnieMoore said:
Perhaps cause Blackpool never played with WB ?cafcsinger said:Lazy research from me, but has Apter ever played RWB for Blackpool?
Square pegs in round holes.....again 🙄.10 -
Most of our player are great when they're not playing.haff5 said:Are people aware that TT has played in 13 league games for Charlton in 2 years? I really don't get the love he gets.6 -
golfaddick said:
So no history or experience in playing as a WB.RonnieMoore said:
Perhaps cause Blackpool never played with WB ?cafcsinger said:Lazy research from me, but has Apter ever played RWB for Blackpool?
Square pegs in round holes.....again 🙄.I know what you mean. It was so frustrating last season when we put our right back Ramsay at centre back, our winger TC up front and our left back Small at RWB and...proceeded to shoot up the table, finish 4th and get promoted via the Play-offs, losing a grand total of 4 games from the 30 we played once we'd started doing that.45 -
Squad numbers literally mean nothing these days in terms of what we (supporters) deem to be key numbers. Won’t be long before a player is wearing 3 digits and we see American football style changes for attacking and defending corners.mendonca said:We've kept some key shirt numbers for some not-so-key players.
My thinking is that NJ has told them to work for it again and/or numbers aren't important, it's the performance and you will keep your place regardless of the number.
get it back to 1-11, 2 subs and sticking an outfield player in goal if the keeper gets injured.1 -
Is that you Steve?Brownie12 said:
Squad numbers literally mean nothing these days in terms of what we (supporters) deem to be key numbers. Won’t be long before a player is wearing 3 digits and we see American football style changes for attacking and defending corners.mendonca said:We've kept some key shirt numbers for some not-so-key players.
My thinking is that NJ has told them to work for it again and/or numbers aren't important, it's the performance and you will keep your place regardless of the number.
get it back to 1-11, 2 subs and sticking an outfield player in goal if the keeper gets injured.7 -
What about goals? I notice you didn't show that stat. Or don't you think goals matter?Braziliance said:
Poor Tezza.FSLN1 said:What Nathan Jones has done this window and since he joined the club is to recruit players to fit a system - defensively we were tighter than a gnat's chuff last season and that will be the case this year although I'm not expecting 26 clean sheets or whatever it was. The defenders we've signed this window have that thin red line you will not get past me feel about them. Out wide he likes a bit of pace and some accuracy when crossing/shooting and everybody must have a bit of physique and be as well organised and possess the same work ethic work as a either Stakhanovite or last year's Sniffer Dog. He hasn't once ventured outside this template in any of the players he has signed.
Does Terry Taylor fit into his playing system? I don't see it, a shame he seems a good bloke and he's not devoid of talent just that he doesn't seem to be a square peg for a square hole. I don't see him scrapping for the ball in midfield in the manner of Coventry or Docherty.
The problem is that any club coming in for him will be League One level and won't be able to match the same wages as we're currently paying him, so it's likely he'll be loaned out rather than sold unless he wants to take a pay cut.
Last season, Doc was playing as the box-to-box midfielder. His stats as a holding midfielder might be completely different. Yes, they may be worse, but you don't know that.0 -
@golfaddickCallumcafc said:We will likely play a 3-5-2 with Apter RWB.
But if it makes you feel better you can also consider it a 4-2-3-1 with Apter RW (and TC or Olaofe LW) given how high up Apter will play.
We will likely play a 3-5-2 with Apter RWB.
But if it makes you feel better you can also consider it a 4-2-3-1 with Apter RW (and TC or Olaofe LW) given how high up Apter will play.
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Is it time for me to moan, just asking?0
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Another belter from our mate Golfie. Season's not even started yet. Lovely stuffGarrymanilow said:golfaddick said:
So no history or experience in playing as a WB.RonnieMoore said:
Perhaps cause Blackpool never played with WB ?cafcsinger said:Lazy research from me, but has Apter ever played RWB for Blackpool?
Square pegs in round holes.....again 🙄.I know what you mean. It was so frustrating last season when we put our right back Ramsay at centre back, our winger TC up front and our left back Small at RWB and...proceeded to shoot up the table, finish 4th and get promoted via the Play-offs, losing a grand total of 4 games from the 30 we played once we'd started doing that.10 -
Conor Coventry our best player? People seem to forget that for the first half of the season he could barely manage a forward pass and was largely responsible for hoofball.36
