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Row, row, row your boat…….🙄🤣🤣0
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clive said:Overheard conversation in the Hartlepool boardroom:“Right lads, how do we fix this PR disaster?”
”How about this - we claim that Stelling is an idiot who doesn’t know what he’s talking about because he got hoodwinked by some rando. We’ll frame it like it was someone pretending to be a potential buyer to make Stelling look like a foolish, gullible old man. Then we repeat all of the things we said in the letter, but this time we also say that none of the obvious negative undertones of the letter mean anything and say that our phrasing is fine, above board and the correct and professional thing to do. We’ll claim that we were being respectful and thinking of everyone’s best interests…”
”Including Jeff Stelling?”
”…YES! Great idea! If we say we’re also thinking of him, we’ll get the public onside. Also, we’ll brush over the bit where we ask clubs to make sure he’s seated away from us - Not sure we can spin that bit positively - hopefully everyone will be so distracted by how brilliantly we’ve proven ourselves not to be fuckwits that they won’t remember that bit.”
”Sounds good to me!”
”Brilliant, let’s get the statement on the website. This is perfect.”
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Hartlepool need to wise up.As if JS is not a dignitary anywhere he wants to go and watch a game.Sour grapes from their Board, can’t believe that JS doesn’t have their best interests at heart.3
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I was watching soccer saturday a few years back and we were 1-0 up at Hartlepool at HT, we then ran in three goals in about five minutes, Jeffs' response was "OK, we surrender, please stop" which we did. He deserves a car pass for that alone if you ask me.0
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Just how lucky are we as Charlton fans at this moment in time to have owners that appear to have the best interests of the club at heart?6
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Went to see his live show (anecdotes and a bit of a Q&A with Bianca Westwood) earlier this year, good bloke. What is the Hartlepool(s) owner thinking?1
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Let's be honest. The best interests of the club are also in the best interests of the owners. If they look after the club, and it becomes successful, it will grow in value and be worth more to them if/when it's sold. In terms of Friedman, this is how he's made his vast fortune.CaptainRobbo said:Just how lucky are we as Charlton fans at this moment in time to have owners that appear to have the best interests of the club at heart?3 -
Obviously they are very rich men and see it as an investment and so far it's paying off for both them and us.up_the_valley said:
Let's be honest. The best interests of the club are also in the best interests of the owners. If they look after the club, and it becomes successful, it will grow in value and be worth more to them if/when it's sold.CaptainRobbo said:Just how lucky are we as Charlton fans at this moment in time to have owners that appear to have the best interests of the club at heart?
Long may it last after all the years of crap we have had to endure.1 - Sponsored links:
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Have you forgotten ESI & Southall already?up_the_valley said:
Let's be honest. The best interests of the club are also in the best interests of the owners. If they look after the club, and it becomes successful, it will grow in value and be worth more to them if/when it's sold.CaptainRobbo said:Just how lucky are we as Charlton fans at this moment in time to have owners that appear to have the best interests of the club at heart?2 -
No. But what they were doing was not in the best interests of the club, nor was it going to increase it's value. They stole from the club. The current lot are investing to increase the value of their investment.Covered End said:
Have you forgotten ESI & Southall already?up_the_valley said:
Let's be honest. The best interests of the club are also in the best interests of the owners. If they look after the club, and it becomes successful, it will grow in value and be worth more to them if/when it's sold.CaptainRobbo said:Just how lucky are we as Charlton fans at this moment in time to have owners that appear to have the best interests of the club at heart?
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Correct, the best interests of the club and the owners aren't always aligned.up_the_valley said:
No. But what they were doing was not in the best interests of the club, nor was it going to increase it's value. They stole from the club. The current lot are investing to increase the value of their investment.Covered End said:
Have you forgotten ESI & Southall already?up_the_valley said:
Let's be honest. The best interests of the club are also in the best interests of the owners. If they look after the club, and it becomes successful, it will grow in value and be worth more to them if/when it's sold.CaptainRobbo said:Just how lucky are we as Charlton fans at this moment in time to have owners that appear to have the best interests of the club at heart?1 -
He claims it doesn't bother him but then says the "other thing that concerns me": so it does bother him then.
Mr Stelling was a VERY smooth, highly professional broadcaster.
He happens to support a football club. (Don't we all, big deal; that doesn't make him a decent bloke does it? Although I'm sure he's very personable).
You might have guessed that I'm not that keen on someone that, leveraging his unique position in the public eye, took Sky Bet's shilling* to encourage suckers to gamble, primarily on football. The type of gambling which has the worst return for punters and the best profit for turf accountants. Who remembers one of Stelling's adverts being banned for being socially irresponsible? He's an intelligent bloke - surely he must have known the impact his efforts were having destroying lives and families - or did he just not care?
*It's reasonable to assume in his case it was many shillings.
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Amen to that.CaptainRobbo said:Just how lucky are we as Charlton fans at this moment in time to have owners that appear to have the best interests of the club at heart?
Was listening to a report about the goings on at Morecambe FC the other day.
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Well, that's all perfectly clear then. Nothing to see there. We've all just clearly misunderstood the wording and tone of the club letter. All of us. Everyone who's read it has misunderstood.clive said:0 -
To the best of my knowledge gambling is legal, and bookmakers can legally advertise.cafcfan said:He claims it doesn't bother him but then says the "other thing that concerns me": so it does bother him then.
Mr Stelling was a VERY smooth, highly professional broadcaster.
He happens to support a football club. (Don't we all, big deal; that doesn't make him a decent bloke does it? Although I'm sure he's very personable).
You might have guessed that I'm not that keen on someone that, leveraging his unique position in the public eye, took Sky Bet's shilling* to encourage suckers to gamble, primarily on football. The type of gambling which has the worst return for punters and the best profit for turf accountants. Who remembers one of Stelling's adverts being banned for being socially irresponsible? He's an intelligent bloke - surely he must have known the impact his efforts were having destroying lives and families - or did he just not care?
*It's reasonable to assume in his case it was many shillings.Responsibility for “destroying lives and families” sits with the bookmakers customer, not the bookmakers - it is not in their interests for their product to be abused (in the same way brewers don’t want their customers to be alcoholics, and chocolate bar manufacturers don’t want their customers to be obese).0 -
In very much the same way that tobacco companies don't want smokers to be addicted to nicotine.Bookies, chocolate companies, brewers all very much like addicts imo just as long as their addiction doesn't kill or ruin them and thereby remove a source of income.4
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The key point here being “IMO”.0
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You don’t like someone because you don’t like one of the products they advertise ?cafcfan said:He claims it doesn't bother him but then says the "other thing that concerns me": so it does bother him then.
Mr Stelling was a VERY smooth, highly professional broadcaster.
He happens to support a football club. (Don't we all, big deal; that doesn't make him a decent bloke does it? Although I'm sure he's very personable).
You might have guessed that I'm not that keen on someone that, leveraging his unique position in the public eye, took Sky Bet's shilling* to encourage suckers to gamble, primarily on football. The type of gambling which has the worst return for punters and the best profit for turf accountants. Who remembers one of Stelling's adverts being banned for being socially irresponsible? He's an intelligent bloke - surely he must have known the impact his efforts were having destroying lives and families - or did he just not care?
*It's reasonable to assume in his case it was many shillings.
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always loathed that Shake-an-Vac woman!MrOneLung said:
You don’t like someone because you don’t like one of the products they advertise ?cafcfan said:He claims it doesn't bother him but then says the "other thing that concerns me": so it does bother him then.
Mr Stelling was a VERY smooth, highly professional broadcaster.
He happens to support a football club. (Don't we all, big deal; that doesn't make him a decent bloke does it? Although I'm sure he's very personable).
You might have guessed that I'm not that keen on someone that, leveraging his unique position in the public eye, took Sky Bet's shilling* to encourage suckers to gamble, primarily on football. The type of gambling which has the worst return for punters and the best profit for turf accountants. Who remembers one of Stelling's adverts being banned for being socially irresponsible? He's an intelligent bloke - surely he must have known the impact his efforts were having destroying lives and families - or did he just not care?
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It’s quite hard to draw a line on an individual level though. Everyone needs to earn money and Skybet is associated with SkySports. Jeff being employed by Sky is most likely going to have to participate with company initiatives that might not directly involve SkySports. I don’t know the ins and the outs of his contract, we don’t know if he’s pro/anti or neutral toward gambling. I’m not dismissing your view toward gambling, more highlighting that Jeff is just one bloke, working for an organisation and this is probably very much of his job.cafcfan said:He claims it doesn't bother him but then says the "other thing that concerns me": so it does bother him then.
Mr Stelling was a VERY smooth, highly professional broadcaster.
He happens to support a football club. (Don't we all, big deal; that doesn't make him a decent bloke does it? Although I'm sure he's very personable).
You might have guessed that I'm not that keen on someone that, leveraging his unique position in the public eye, took Sky Bet's shilling* to encourage suckers to gamble, primarily on football. The type of gambling which has the worst return for punters and the best profit for turf accountants. Who remembers one of Stelling's adverts being banned for being socially irresponsible? He's an intelligent bloke - surely he must have known the impact his efforts were having destroying lives and families - or did he just not care?
*It's reasonable to assume in his case it was many shillings.
It’s not the same, but when the energy companies profited off the back of natural gas prices shooting up a few years back, I was like everyone else, up in arms at how much money they’d made. Yet at the same time, the company I work for were trying to speak to do and do business with all the offenders and sell them our software. As much as I thought the profits they were making were taking the piss, I would’ve celebrated seeing us win any of them as a client0 -
I don't really gamble myself but at the end of the day it is a legal activity in the UK (and most of the world), also millions of people gamble to a normal level. Most reasonable people understand the odds being in favour of the house, on the occassions i do/have gambled I've never seen it as a sustainable way to make money, i.e if i do a £5 accumulator or take £100 to a day at the horses i fully understand that i will mostly lose it but thats the price to pay for the fun. Yes there are many people who cant control themselves and have their lives damaged tgrough gambling but isnt that true of alcohol too, yet we still sell it at almost every sporting event ? Shops sell damaging amounts at very cheap levels ? Where do you want to draw the line between corperate and personal responsibility ?cafcfan said:He claims it doesn't bother him but then says the "other thing that concerns me": so it does bother him then.
Mr Stelling was a VERY smooth, highly professional broadcaster.
He happens to support a football club. (Don't we all, big deal; that doesn't make him a decent bloke does it? Although I'm sure he's very personable).
You might have guessed that I'm not that keen on someone that, leveraging his unique position in the public eye, took Sky Bet's shilling* to encourage suckers to gamble, primarily on football. The type of gambling which has the worst return for punters and the best profit for turf accountants. Who remembers one of Stelling's adverts being banned for being socially irresponsible? He's an intelligent bloke - surely he must have known the impact his efforts were having destroying lives and families - or did he just not care?
*It's reasonable to assume in his case it was many shillings.0 -
Lesbians love munching on a fleshy cleaned carpet.gringo said:
always loathed that Shake-an-Vac woman!MrOneLung said:
You don’t like someone because you don’t like one of the products they advertise ?cafcfan said:He claims it doesn't bother him but then says the "other thing that concerns me": so it does bother him then.
Mr Stelling was a VERY smooth, highly professional broadcaster.
He happens to support a football club. (Don't we all, big deal; that doesn't make him a decent bloke does it? Although I'm sure he's very personable).
You might have guessed that I'm not that keen on someone that, leveraging his unique position in the public eye, took Sky Bet's shilling* to encourage suckers to gamble, primarily on football. The type of gambling which has the worst return for punters and the best profit for turf accountants. Who remembers one of Stelling's adverts being banned for being socially irresponsible? He's an intelligent bloke - surely he must have known the impact his efforts were having destroying lives and families - or did he just not care?
*It's reasonable to assume in his case it was many shillings.1 -
Oh, so it's his fault people bet is it. It's not like there hasnt been bookmakers for centuries.cafcfan said:He claims it doesn't bother him but then says the "other thing that concerns me": so it does bother him then.
Mr Stelling was a VERY smooth, highly professional broadcaster.
He happens to support a football club. (Don't we all, big deal; that doesn't make him a decent bloke does it? Although I'm sure he's very personable).
You might have guessed that I'm not that keen on someone that, leveraging his unique position in the public eye, took Sky Bet's shilling* to encourage suckers to gamble, primarily on football. The type of gambling which has the worst return for punters and the best profit for turf accountants. Who remembers one of Stelling's adverts being banned for being socially irresponsible? He's an intelligent bloke - surely he must have known the impact his efforts were having destroying lives and families - or did he just not care?
*It's reasonable to assume in his case it was many shillings.
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