Deadline Day from Pg.641 - Summer 2025 Charlton Athletic Transfer Rumours

DennisBooth said:

These Spurs players made available for loans. Apart from Donley who would you have?

#Tottenham players made available for loan

• Luka Vuskovic

• Jamie Donley

• Will Lankshear

• George Abbott

• Yang Min-hyeok

• Tyrese Hall

• Alfie Devine

• Dane Scarlett

sam3110 said:

Team gelling won't be a huge issue, half of them have played together before or played under Jones. 

Knibbs knows Mannion and Jones from Cambridge

Bell, Burke and Kaminski all know eachother, as well as Berry

Apter and Carey have eachother

Kelman has been in contact with Godden already about goalscoring

Rankin-Costello and Olaofe are probably the "odd ones out" in that respect, but I have no doubt we as fans place an awful lot more emphasis on the "team bonding" than most clubs actually do. 

I expect us to get off to a pretty good start actually, and use the positive momentum and positive crowds to our benefit

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RedRyan said:

I went and had a look at our squad from a couple years ago, and there are a horrendous number now in league 2 or non league. Just shows how far we've come, and how important that playoff win was for the direction of the club. The proof of the pudding will be in the eating etc but hopefully this window gives us plenty to enjoy gobbling up.

Nothing to say that in 2 years time you could look at our current squad and see some of them plying their trade in League 2 or below. 

Kelman has no pedigree in anything but League 1. Same with Apter and Olaofe. Then there are our Academy players such as TC and Anderson.

As you say......the proof of the pudding is in the eating. I do hope I am eating my words along with a slice of humble pie in 2 years time...but I could also be right. 

Shut up you melt 

It's called a counter arguement. None of what I stated isn't true. Not saying those players will disappear off the face of the earth but no one can say 100% that they wont be below the Championship when their contracts are up. 

I’ll give you some backup on this golfie. Although your argument is I think on the extreme side I do see where you are coming from. The main thrust of our recruitment has been to pick off the better league one players which I think you’ll agree was the way to go. We’ve supplemented that with some older experienced Championship players who in my humble opinion with the exception of Kaminski arnt names that would blow anyone’s socks off. Sound but probably not any better than those found in any Championship squad we’ll face. We need both sides of that equation to work and there’s probably more risk of that blowing up with the “exciting “ signings from league one, than the steady Eddie older payers. It’s absolutely terrific that for the first time in years we’ve actually gone and spent some decent money and we should enjoy it but I think a lot of people are getting carried away. This squad has if all works out given us a fighting chance of survival. For me that’s about it. Only for example but there’s as much chance of us lauding Fullah at the seasons end as it is Kelman or Apter. We’ve gambled and need to hope it works out. 

Your last sentence would be true whoever we signed, are you saying there was alternative strategy that wouldn’t have been a gamble, or less of a gamble?

100% what you’ve just said. What I’m trying to say is suppose is that all of our “exciting” signings were good in league one. Wright-Phillips was excellent in league one but couldn’t make the step up to offer what we needed in The Championship. That goes for TC, Anderson, Coventry, Edward’s and Ramsay. Even Jones. We don’t have a tried Championship squad. I’m hopeful because I trust NJ and PC but I’d be very surprised if we’re not in a season long relegation battle. This group would be an awesome league one squad but very average where we currently are.

But the thing is we don't know that. Putting together a squad that's greater than the sum of its parts, using the momentum of promotion you just don't know who will step up and who won't. Who honestly would have had a squad featuring the likes of Burke, Berry, Bell, Tom Lockyer, Dan Potts, Allan Campbell and Alfie Doughty getting promoted? Some of their players were signed when they were in L1 or L2 but they were the right players for the style of play and they were Premier League footballers by the next season. Kaminski was signed specifically to be a Premier League keeper for Luton. The reality is that football is weird and you just don't know who will surprise you; BWP wasn't great in the Championship but then Yann, Stephens and Hamer went on to play in the Premier League, and there were plenty on here in 11/12 who weren't sold on Hamer and Stephens at all. We don't know if this is an average team in the Championship, a rubbish one or something more. The fun will be in finding out, but I'm confident in the very least we've brought in the kind of players the manager wants for some fairly hefty fees and that's something to feel very positive about 

The issue for me is not our squad at all. We still have nearly the entire promotion winning team together (albeit they won't all start) and the additions we have made all very much fit the mould of "Jones players" - we've done everything we could hope to do to give us as good a chance as possible.

The issue is that even with all that we're in a league with teams who have got (former) Premier league players and Premier league money available. We've spent enough money that other teams fans are genuinely surprised, yet both of the teams that came up with us have spent EVEN MORE.

I'm positive about our chances but a "good" season for me is safety with a month or two to go.

The two teams who came up with us are a bit of a freak occurrence though. The team that used FFP loopholes to build a Championship team in L1 (which we still beat at home) and the daft Disney team who pay over the odds for some strange players. It's unfortunate but equally we've got a Sheffield Wednesday team who are currently circling the drain and a Hull side with a 3 window transfer ban which sort of levels things out in that respect. What's interesting is the fans of teams around us who are getting a bit hot under the collar about our signings. Oxford, Preston, Pompey, Derby, all these sorts of teams are pretty horrified and if you look at their transfers they haven't brought too many in. I agree, staying up is enough but I think we've done enough to have some teams seriously looking over their shoulders at us. A good start for us and I think there will be some real fear in them.

Agree, and for all the worries that we’re signing too many L1 players, I’m sure fans of those clubs would be happier if they were spending millions on the sort of players we’ve signed.

It’s a gamble but so would spending big wages on older players who might be past their peak and lost some of the energy and/or hunger they previously had.

We were never going to sign proven players who were regulars last season for Championship clubs (aside from those relegated), they would be well out of our price range. What we’ve done should mean we compete and have a chance of staying up as a bare minimum, but if enough settle well and make the step up, we could finish higher.