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Deadline Day from Pg.641 - Summer 2025 Charlton Athletic Transfer Rumours
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I get your drift….golfaddick said:
Nothing to say that in 2 years time you could look at our current squad and see some of them plying their trade in League 2 or below.RedRyan said:I went and had a look at our squad from a couple years ago, and there are a horrendous number now in league 2 or non league. Just shows how far we've come, and how important that playoff win was for the direction of the club. The proof of the pudding will be in the eating etc but hopefully this window gives us plenty to enjoy gobbling up.
Kelman has no pedigree in anything but League 1. Same with Apter and Olaofe. Then there are our Academy players such as TC and Anderson.
As you say......the proof of the pudding is in the eating. I do hope I am eating my words along with a slice of humble pie in 2 years time...but I could also be right.2 -
I would guess NJ has seen enough of the two trialists by now, so they’ll either ended their trials or offered a deal with the hope they’ll sign in time for Saturday. I agree Bennett seems likely, Dexter didn’t impress and is still under contract at Wolves.fenaddick said:Going to keep my hopes down and assume it was Bennett who had the medical2 -
I'm not even saying that.eaststandmike said:
Twattish comment, Golfies comments could well turn out to be true.TheHerminator said:
Shut up you meltgolfaddick said:
Nothing to say that in 2 years time you could look at our current squad and see some of them plying their trade in League 2 or below.RedRyan said:I went and had a look at our squad from a couple years ago, and there are a horrendous number now in league 2 or non league. Just shows how far we've come, and how important that playoff win was for the direction of the club. The proof of the pudding will be in the eating etc but hopefully this window gives us plenty to enjoy gobbling up.
Kelman has no pedigree in anything but League 1. Same with Apter and Olaofe. Then there are our Academy players such as TC and Anderson.
As you say......the proof of the pudding is in the eating. I do hope I am eating my words along with a slice of humble pie in 2 years time...but I could also be right.As he says he hopes not but going on our past record with players it could easily happen.
We've signed some players over the seasons that have done well & then gone on to better things. We've also signed players that have bombed & as @RedRyan remarked they are now playing in lower divisions.
So, on balance, there is no knowing that some of the players that are in this seasons squad wont be plying their trade lower down the pyramid in a few years time.
Fuck me...its not hard to believe that surely. I'm not trying to be negative. This has been one of our best transfer windows that I can recall & we've still got 4 weeks of it to go.
And thank you @eaststandmike for reading & understanding what I said.28 -
Campbell was about the only creator we had last season and teams doubled up on him to try and contain him. And if that was not working they tried to kick him into submission.Southbank said:
Agree with this. My biggest question mark however is over our homegrown players. I am not sure that any of them have shown enough last season to think they can make it in the Champ, as first teamers I mean. I fact, NJ has brought in more experienced or better performing players in every position that they were in last season. The ones from League one, Kelman, Apter and Olaofe, made a bigger impact over the season than TC or Leaburn. Knibbs more than Anderson.ShootersHillGuru said:
I’ll give you some backup on this golfie. Although your argument is I think on the extreme side I do see where you are coming from. The main thrust of our recruitment has been to pick off the better league one players which I think you’ll agree was the way to go. We’ve supplemented that with some older experienced Championship players who in my humble opinion with the exception of Kaminski arnt names that would blow anyone’s socks off. Sound but probably not any better than those found in any Championship squad we’ll face. We need both sides of that equation to work and there’s probably more risk of that blowing up with the “exciting “ signings from league one, than the steady Eddie older payers. It’s absolutely terrific that for the first time in years we’ve actually gone and spent some decent money and we should enjoy it but I think a lot of people are getting carried away. This squad has if all works out given us a fighting chance of survival. For me that’s about it. Only for example but there’s as much chance of us lauding Fullah at the seasons end as it is Kelman or Apter. We’ve gambled and need to hope it works out.golfaddick said:
It's called a counter arguement. None of what I stated isn't true. Not saying those players will disappear off the face of the earth but no one can say 100% that they wont be below the Championship when their contracts are up.TheHerminator said:
Shut up you meltgolfaddick said:
Nothing to say that in 2 years time you could look at our current squad and see some of them plying their trade in League 2 or below.RedRyan said:I went and had a look at our squad from a couple years ago, and there are a horrendous number now in league 2 or non league. Just shows how far we've come, and how important that playoff win was for the direction of the club. The proof of the pudding will be in the eating etc but hopefully this window gives us plenty to enjoy gobbling up.
Kelman has no pedigree in anything but League 1. Same with Apter and Olaofe. Then there are our Academy players such as TC and Anderson.
As you say......the proof of the pudding is in the eating. I do hope I am eating my words along with a slice of humble pie in 2 years time...but I could also be right.
I do hope that some at least keep progressing, although a full season on loan in a top league one side may suit most of them best.
The one who may make more of an impact than any is Fullah, because he has an x factor others do notHe played a full part in driving us up the league and into the Championship. If he didn’t play we looked poor.Huge impact last season.42 -
Stu_of_Kunming said:
We could sign Messi and golfie would moan he’s too old with no resale value.eaststandmike said:
Twattish comment, Golfies comments could well turn out to be true.TheHerminator said:
Shut up you meltgolfaddick said:
Nothing to say that in 2 years time you could look at our current squad and see some of them plying their trade in League 2 or below.RedRyan said:I went and had a look at our squad from a couple years ago, and there are a horrendous number now in league 2 or non league. Just shows how far we've come, and how important that playoff win was for the direction of the club. The proof of the pudding will be in the eating etc but hopefully this window gives us plenty to enjoy gobbling up.
Kelman has no pedigree in anything but League 1. Same with Apter and Olaofe. Then there are our Academy players such as TC and Anderson.
As you say......the proof of the pudding is in the eating. I do hope I am eating my words along with a slice of humble pie in 2 years time...but I could also be right.As he says he hopes not but going on our past record with players it could easily happen
Wouldn't pass the height test either.2 -
100% what you’ve just said. What I’m trying to say is suppose is that all of our “exciting” signings were good in league one. Wright-Phillips was excellent in league one but couldn’t make the step up to offer what we needed in The Championship. That goes for TC, Anderson, Coventry, Edward’s and Ramsay. Even Jones. We don’t have a tried Championship squad. I’m hopeful because I trust NJ and PC but I’d be very surprised if we’re not in a season long relegation battle. This group would be an awesome league one squad but very average where we currently are.Scoham said:
Your last sentence would be true whoever we signed, are you saying there was alternative strategy that wouldn’t have been a gamble, or less of a gamble?ShootersHillGuru said:
I’ll give you some backup on this golfie. Although your argument is I think on the extreme side I do see where you are coming from. The main thrust of our recruitment has been to pick off the better league one players which I think you’ll agree was the way to go. We’ve supplemented that with some older experienced Championship players who in my humble opinion with the exception of Kaminski arnt names that would blow anyone’s socks off. Sound but probably not any better than those found in any Championship squad we’ll face. We need both sides of that equation to work and there’s probably more risk of that blowing up with the “exciting “ signings from league one, than the steady Eddie older payers. It’s absolutely terrific that for the first time in years we’ve actually gone and spent some decent money and we should enjoy it but I think a lot of people are getting carried away. This squad has if all works out given us a fighting chance of survival. For me that’s about it. Only for example but there’s as much chance of us lauding Fullah at the seasons end as it is Kelman or Apter. We’ve gambled and need to hope it works out.golfaddick said:
It's called a counter arguement. None of what I stated isn't true. Not saying those players will disappear off the face of the earth but no one can say 100% that they wont be below the Championship when their contracts are up.TheHerminator said:
Shut up you meltgolfaddick said:
Nothing to say that in 2 years time you could look at our current squad and see some of them plying their trade in League 2 or below.RedRyan said:I went and had a look at our squad from a couple years ago, and there are a horrendous number now in league 2 or non league. Just shows how far we've come, and how important that playoff win was for the direction of the club. The proof of the pudding will be in the eating etc but hopefully this window gives us plenty to enjoy gobbling up.
Kelman has no pedigree in anything but League 1. Same with Apter and Olaofe. Then there are our Academy players such as TC and Anderson.
As you say......the proof of the pudding is in the eating. I do hope I am eating my words along with a slice of humble pie in 2 years time...but I could also be right.1 -
As has been widely reported - even if we didn't go up - TC would still be playing in the Championship this season.14
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I’m confident Campbell and Anderson will have plenty of game time and will do very well.6
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Agreed - the strength of Jones sides is that when it comes together they tend to be better than the sum of its parts. In this case those parts are mostly very much an unknown quantity at this level.ShootersHillGuru said:
100% what you’ve just said. What I’m trying to say is suppose is that all of our “exciting” signings were good in league one. Wright-Phillips was excellent in league one but couldn’t make the step up to offer what we needed in The Championship. That goes for TC, Anderson, Coventry, Edward’s and Ramsay. Even Jones. We don’t have a tried Championship squad. I’m hopeful because I trust NJ and PC but I’d be very surprised if we’re not in a season long relegation battle. This group would be an awesome league one squad but very average where we currently are.Scoham said:
Your last sentence would be true whoever we signed, are you saying there was alternative strategy that wouldn’t have been a gamble, or less of a gamble?ShootersHillGuru said:
I’ll give you some backup on this golfie. Although your argument is I think on the extreme side I do see where you are coming from. The main thrust of our recruitment has been to pick off the better league one players which I think you’ll agree was the way to go. We’ve supplemented that with some older experienced Championship players who in my humble opinion with the exception of Kaminski arnt names that would blow anyone’s socks off. Sound but probably not any better than those found in any Championship squad we’ll face. We need both sides of that equation to work and there’s probably more risk of that blowing up with the “exciting “ signings from league one, than the steady Eddie older payers. It’s absolutely terrific that for the first time in years we’ve actually gone and spent some decent money and we should enjoy it but I think a lot of people are getting carried away. This squad has if all works out given us a fighting chance of survival. For me that’s about it. Only for example but there’s as much chance of us lauding Fullah at the seasons end as it is Kelman or Apter. We’ve gambled and need to hope it works out.golfaddick said:
It's called a counter arguement. None of what I stated isn't true. Not saying those players will disappear off the face of the earth but no one can say 100% that they wont be below the Championship when their contracts are up.TheHerminator said:
Shut up you meltgolfaddick said:
Nothing to say that in 2 years time you could look at our current squad and see some of them plying their trade in League 2 or below.RedRyan said:I went and had a look at our squad from a couple years ago, and there are a horrendous number now in league 2 or non league. Just shows how far we've come, and how important that playoff win was for the direction of the club. The proof of the pudding will be in the eating etc but hopefully this window gives us plenty to enjoy gobbling up.
Kelman has no pedigree in anything but League 1. Same with Apter and Olaofe. Then there are our Academy players such as TC and Anderson.
As you say......the proof of the pudding is in the eating. I do hope I am eating my words along with a slice of humble pie in 2 years time...but I could also be right.
I expect that MOST of them will indeed make the step up, but it would be naive to think they will all do so. I don't think personally we'll be in a relegation scrap all season but I do think we'll be down there for a good while and hopefully another late surge like last season to carry us to safety in the new year.
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In any case, Messi would fail the CL height test.Stu_of_Kunming said:
We could sign Messi and golfie would moan he’s too old with no resale value.eaststandmike said:
Twattish comment, Golfies comments could well turn out to be true.TheHerminator said:
Shut up you meltgolfaddick said:
Nothing to say that in 2 years time you could look at our current squad and see some of them plying their trade in League 2 or below.RedRyan said:I went and had a look at our squad from a couple years ago, and there are a horrendous number now in league 2 or non league. Just shows how far we've come, and how important that playoff win was for the direction of the club. The proof of the pudding will be in the eating etc but hopefully this window gives us plenty to enjoy gobbling up.
Kelman has no pedigree in anything but League 1. Same with Apter and Olaofe. Then there are our Academy players such as TC and Anderson.
As you say......the proof of the pudding is in the eating. I do hope I am eating my words along with a slice of humble pie in 2 years time...but I could also be right.As he says he hopes not but going on our past record with players it could easily happen
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Noël Hunt, the Reading manager still hoping to include Knibbs in his next match day squad.Henry Irving said:
Bit late for Knibbs now?John_Fitzpatrick1 said:Update:
The player with the meeting today is Knibbs.
However I have been informed a player had a medical Saturday.
Don't tell him! 😆
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ShootersHillGuru said:100% what you’ve just said. What I’m trying to say is suppose is that all of our “exciting” signings were good in league one. Wright-Phillips was excellent in league one but couldn’t make the step up to offer what we needed in The Championship. That goes for TC, Anderson, Coventry, Edward’s and Ramsay. Even Jones. We don’t have a tried Championship squad. I’m hopeful because I trust NJ and PC but I’d be very surprised if we’re not in a season long relegation battle. This group would be an awesome league one squad but very average where we currently are.Its easy to say but I think we just got to be patient with the team bedding in and have faith in NJ's management and when the inevitable 4-0 drubbing against one of the front runners for promotion happens - be prepared to not fall apart as a fanbase.This seems like a fever dream but I recall our last year in the Championship, it was October and I was sitting on a beach in Barbados and I think . . . . we were 2nd in the table having beaten . . . Derby (?) and I genuinely believed in that moment that I'd be watching Charlton play Premier League football again the next year and then we obviously barely won a game after that so my point is, whether we have a great or a poor start we got to keep focused and positive for the team for the season and keep our fingers crossed.Don't worry I'm not going Barbados this year.
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Incredible insight there and you are 100% correct.golfaddick said:
I'm not even saying that.eaststandmike said:
Twattish comment, Golfies comments could well turn out to be true.TheHerminator said:
Shut up you meltgolfaddick said:
Nothing to say that in 2 years time you could look at our current squad and see some of them plying their trade in League 2 or below.RedRyan said:I went and had a look at our squad from a couple years ago, and there are a horrendous number now in league 2 or non league. Just shows how far we've come, and how important that playoff win was for the direction of the club. The proof of the pudding will be in the eating etc but hopefully this window gives us plenty to enjoy gobbling up.
Kelman has no pedigree in anything but League 1. Same with Apter and Olaofe. Then there are our Academy players such as TC and Anderson.
As you say......the proof of the pudding is in the eating. I do hope I am eating my words along with a slice of humble pie in 2 years time...but I could also be right.As he says he hopes not but going on our past record with players it could easily happen.
We've signed some players over the seasons that have done well & then gone on to better things. We've also signed players that have bombed & as @RedRyan remarked they are now playing in lower divisions.
So, on balance, there is no knowing that some of the players that are in this seasons squad wont be plying their trade lower down the pyramid in a few years time.
Fuck me...its not hard to believe that surely. I'm not trying to be negative. This has been one of our best transfer windows that I can recall & we've still got 4 weeks of it to go.
And thank you @eaststandmike for reading & understanding what I said.
There is no knowing where some of our players will be playing in 2 years time.
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Is it possible to have a medical and still travel to Southend to play 16 minutes in the match? Possibly, I've no idea how intensive or long a medical is these days. Does seem weird for a trialist to play a match and have medical on the same day. Surely you'd book it for another day.sam3110 said:
Not sure that makes sense, surely you give at least a quick medical to anyone that comes on trial with you?fenaddick said:Going to keep my hopes down and assume it was Bennett who had the medical2 -
That's another thing that comes into it.SouthLincsAddick said:
Is it possible to have a medical and still travel to Southend to play 16 minutes in the match? Possibly, I've no idea how intensive or long a medical is these days. Does seem weird for a trialist to play a match and have medical on the same day. Surely you'd book it for another day.sam3110 said:
Not sure that makes sense, surely you give at least a quick medical to anyone that comes on trial with you?fenaddick said:Going to keep my hopes down and assume it was Bennett who had the medical
If someone had a medical on Saturday it would have been in the morning before anyone departed for Southend, as I'm sure many of the medical and physio team went to the game.0 -
Think of it as a second viewing on a house. The one where you spot the damp and the unusually high number of rat traps out the back.SouthLincsAddick said:
Is it possible to have a medical and still travel to Southend to play 16 minutes in the match? Possibly, I've no idea how intensive or long a medical is these days. Does seem weird for a trialist to play a match and have medical on the same day. Surely you'd book it for another day.sam3110 said:
Not sure that makes sense, surely you give at least a quick medical to anyone that comes on trial with you?fenaddick said:Going to keep my hopes down and assume it was Bennett who had the medical7 -
If NJ shows to much confidence in TC that could be a problem ..we have better players now that can play that role so no loyalty if TC finds the first few games a struggleChunes said:As has been widely reported - even if we didn't go up - TC would still be playing in the Championship this season.2 -
If we are very average surely we would finish slap bang in the middle of the table rather than in a season long relegation battle…?ShootersHillGuru said:
100% what you’ve just said. What I’m trying to say is suppose is that all of our “exciting” signings were good in league one. Wright-Phillips was excellent in league one but couldn’t make the step up to offer what we needed in The Championship. That goes for TC, Anderson, Coventry, Edward’s and Ramsay. Even Jones. We don’t have a tried Championship squad. I’m hopeful because I trust NJ and PC but I’d be very surprised if we’re not in a season long relegation battle. This group would be an awesome league one squad but very average where we currently are.Scoham said:
Your last sentence would be true whoever we signed, are you saying there was alternative strategy that wouldn’t have been a gamble, or less of a gamble?ShootersHillGuru said:
I’ll give you some backup on this golfie. Although your argument is I think on the extreme side I do see where you are coming from. The main thrust of our recruitment has been to pick off the better league one players which I think you’ll agree was the way to go. We’ve supplemented that with some older experienced Championship players who in my humble opinion with the exception of Kaminski arnt names that would blow anyone’s socks off. Sound but probably not any better than those found in any Championship squad we’ll face. We need both sides of that equation to work and there’s probably more risk of that blowing up with the “exciting “ signings from league one, than the steady Eddie older payers. It’s absolutely terrific that for the first time in years we’ve actually gone and spent some decent money and we should enjoy it but I think a lot of people are getting carried away. This squad has if all works out given us a fighting chance of survival. For me that’s about it. Only for example but there’s as much chance of us lauding Fullah at the seasons end as it is Kelman or Apter. We’ve gambled and need to hope it works out.golfaddick said:
It's called a counter arguement. None of what I stated isn't true. Not saying those players will disappear off the face of the earth but no one can say 100% that they wont be below the Championship when their contracts are up.TheHerminator said:
Shut up you meltgolfaddick said:
Nothing to say that in 2 years time you could look at our current squad and see some of them plying their trade in League 2 or below.RedRyan said:I went and had a look at our squad from a couple years ago, and there are a horrendous number now in league 2 or non league. Just shows how far we've come, and how important that playoff win was for the direction of the club. The proof of the pudding will be in the eating etc but hopefully this window gives us plenty to enjoy gobbling up.
Kelman has no pedigree in anything but League 1. Same with Apter and Olaofe. Then there are our Academy players such as TC and Anderson.
As you say......the proof of the pudding is in the eating. I do hope I am eating my words along with a slice of humble pie in 2 years time...but I could also be right.10 -
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In this town, Billy says, everybody's trying to tell you what to do...Uboat said:
Think of it as a second viewing on a house. The one where you spot the damp and the unusually high number of rat traps out the back.SouthLincsAddick said:
Is it possible to have a medical and still travel to Southend to play 16 minutes in the match? Possibly, I've no idea how intensive or long a medical is these days. Does seem weird for a trialist to play a match and have medical on the same day. Surely you'd book it for another day.sam3110 said:
Not sure that makes sense, surely you give at least a quick medical to anyone that comes on trial with you?fenaddick said:Going to keep my hopes down and assume it was Bennett who had the medical4 -
If what we have done is not comfortable to stay up I worry for every single L1 club that gets promoted from now on. Don’t expect it to be a cakewalk but this team on paper and manager looks far too good to be relegated33
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Not sure what else the club could've done to give us a great chance at staying up this season. Been a great effort so far. Time for us to get behind the teamCrispywood said:If what we have done is not comfortable to stay up I worry for every single L1 club that gets promoted from now on. Don’t expect it to be a cakewalk but this team on paper and manager looks far too good to be relegated42 -
Surely a very average league position from a very average squad would be around 12th which we all would be delighted with.ShootersHillGuru said:
100% what you’ve just said. What I’m trying to say is suppose is that all of our “exciting” signings were good in league one. Wright-Phillips was excellent in league one but couldn’t make the step up to offer what we needed in The Championship. That goes for TC, Anderson, Coventry, Edward’s and Ramsay. Even Jones. We don’t have a tried Championship squad. I’m hopeful because I trust NJ and PC but I’d be very surprised if we’re not in a season long relegation battle. This group would be an awesome league one squad but very average where we currently are.Scoham said:
Your last sentence would be true whoever we signed, are you saying there was alternative strategy that wouldn’t have been a gamble, or less of a gamble?ShootersHillGuru said:
I’ll give you some backup on this golfie. Although your argument is I think on the extreme side I do see where you are coming from. The main thrust of our recruitment has been to pick off the better league one players which I think you’ll agree was the way to go. We’ve supplemented that with some older experienced Championship players who in my humble opinion with the exception of Kaminski arnt names that would blow anyone’s socks off. Sound but probably not any better than those found in any Championship squad we’ll face. We need both sides of that equation to work and there’s probably more risk of that blowing up with the “exciting “ signings from league one, than the steady Eddie older payers. It’s absolutely terrific that for the first time in years we’ve actually gone and spent some decent money and we should enjoy it but I think a lot of people are getting carried away. This squad has if all works out given us a fighting chance of survival. For me that’s about it. Only for example but there’s as much chance of us lauding Fullah at the seasons end as it is Kelman or Apter. We’ve gambled and need to hope it works out.golfaddick said:
It's called a counter arguement. None of what I stated isn't true. Not saying those players will disappear off the face of the earth but no one can say 100% that they wont be below the Championship when their contracts are up.TheHerminator said:
Shut up you meltgolfaddick said:
Nothing to say that in 2 years time you could look at our current squad and see some of them plying their trade in League 2 or below.RedRyan said:I went and had a look at our squad from a couple years ago, and there are a horrendous number now in league 2 or non league. Just shows how far we've come, and how important that playoff win was for the direction of the club. The proof of the pudding will be in the eating etc but hopefully this window gives us plenty to enjoy gobbling up.
Kelman has no pedigree in anything but League 1. Same with Apter and Olaofe. Then there are our Academy players such as TC and Anderson.
As you say......the proof of the pudding is in the eating. I do hope I am eating my words along with a slice of humble pie in 2 years time...but I could also be right.10 -
Just goes to show how Football has progressed, and how fucked it is
Did we ever really have to spend £10m in the Premier League, just to be able to finish at least 17th
Whereas that's what we've clearly had to do this summer, but in the f**king Championship13 -
And still buying itUboat said:
Think of it as a second viewing on a house. The one where you spot the damp and the unusually high number of rat traps out the back.SouthLincsAddick said:
Is it possible to have a medical and still travel to Southend to play 16 minutes in the match? Possibly, I've no idea how intensive or long a medical is these days. Does seem weird for a trialist to play a match and have medical on the same day. Surely you'd book it for another day.sam3110 said:
Not sure that makes sense, surely you give at least a quick medical to anyone that comes on trial with you?fenaddick said:Going to keep my hopes down and assume it was Bennett who had the medical2 -
Think he'd be a decent squad signing...... 9 on the bench and all that....... to me he hasn't looked any more out of place than the Mitchell brothers for example....John_Fitzpatrick1 said:
I think the same tbhfenaddick said:Going to keep my hopes down and assume it was Bennett who had the medical0 -
I don't think he will..... judging by the signings he's made so far..... and I think he plays who he judges to be the best pick given whatever circumstances...?RonnieMoore said:
If NJ shows to much confidence in TC that could be a problem ..we have better players now that can play that role so no loyalty if TC finds the first few games a struggleChunes said:As has been widely reported - even if we didn't go up - TC would still be playing in the Championship this season.4 -
This ✊🏻TheHerminator said:
Not sure what else the club could've done to give us a great chance at staying up this season. Been a great effort so far. Time for us to get behind the teamCrispywood said:If what we have done is not comfortable to stay up I worry for every single L1 club that gets promoted from now on. Don’t expect it to be a cakewalk but this team on paper and manager looks far too good to be relegated1 -
But the thing is we don't know that. Putting together a squad that's greater than the sum of its parts, using the momentum of promotion you just don't know who will step up and who won't. Who honestly would have had a squad featuring the likes of Burke, Berry, Bell, Tom Lockyer, Dan Potts, Allan Campbell and Alfie Doughty getting promoted? Some of their players were signed when they were in L1 or L2 but they were the right players for the style of play and they were Premier League footballers by the next season. Kaminski was signed specifically to be a Premier League keeper for Luton. The reality is that football is weird and you just don't know who will surprise you; BWP wasn't great in the Championship but then Yann, Stephens and Hamer went on to play in the Premier League, and there were plenty on here in 11/12 who weren't sold on Hamer and Stephens at all. We don't know if this is an average team in the Championship, a rubbish one or something more. The fun will be in finding out, but I'm confident in the very least we've brought in the kind of players the manager wants for some fairly hefty fees and that's something to feel very positive aboutShootersHillGuru said:
100% what you’ve just said. What I’m trying to say is suppose is that all of our “exciting” signings were good in league one. Wright-Phillips was excellent in league one but couldn’t make the step up to offer what we needed in The Championship. That goes for TC, Anderson, Coventry, Edward’s and Ramsay. Even Jones. We don’t have a tried Championship squad. I’m hopeful because I trust NJ and PC but I’d be very surprised if we’re not in a season long relegation battle. This group would be an awesome league one squad but very average where we currently are.Scoham said:
Your last sentence would be true whoever we signed, are you saying there was alternative strategy that wouldn’t have been a gamble, or less of a gamble?ShootersHillGuru said:
I’ll give you some backup on this golfie. Although your argument is I think on the extreme side I do see where you are coming from. The main thrust of our recruitment has been to pick off the better league one players which I think you’ll agree was the way to go. We’ve supplemented that with some older experienced Championship players who in my humble opinion with the exception of Kaminski arnt names that would blow anyone’s socks off. Sound but probably not any better than those found in any Championship squad we’ll face. We need both sides of that equation to work and there’s probably more risk of that blowing up with the “exciting “ signings from league one, than the steady Eddie older payers. It’s absolutely terrific that for the first time in years we’ve actually gone and spent some decent money and we should enjoy it but I think a lot of people are getting carried away. This squad has if all works out given us a fighting chance of survival. For me that’s about it. Only for example but there’s as much chance of us lauding Fullah at the seasons end as it is Kelman or Apter. We’ve gambled and need to hope it works out.golfaddick said:
It's called a counter arguement. None of what I stated isn't true. Not saying those players will disappear off the face of the earth but no one can say 100% that they wont be below the Championship when their contracts are up.TheHerminator said:
Shut up you meltgolfaddick said:
Nothing to say that in 2 years time you could look at our current squad and see some of them plying their trade in League 2 or below.RedRyan said:I went and had a look at our squad from a couple years ago, and there are a horrendous number now in league 2 or non league. Just shows how far we've come, and how important that playoff win was for the direction of the club. The proof of the pudding will be in the eating etc but hopefully this window gives us plenty to enjoy gobbling up.
Kelman has no pedigree in anything but League 1. Same with Apter and Olaofe. Then there are our Academy players such as TC and Anderson.
As you say......the proof of the pudding is in the eating. I do hope I am eating my words along with a slice of humble pie in 2 years time...but I could also be right.28
