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Deadline Day from Pg.641 - Summer 2025 Charlton Athletic Transfer Rumours

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  • Jac_52
    Jac_52 Posts: 1,464
    Laddick01 said:

    Interesting, we're still looking for a RB then! 
    I should bloody hope so we don't have one!
  • sam3110
    sam3110 Posts: 21,342
    If the squad doesn't change from here to Watford, I'd go 

    Kaminski 
    Ramsay Burke Jones Gillesphey Edwards 
    Docherty Coventry 
    Apter
    Godden Olaofe

    Apter and Olaofe to switch between a 3 up front in possession, and Apter dropping deeper when out of possession.
  • ForeverAddickted
    ForeverAddickted Posts: 94,728
    team v Watford 

                              kiminsky

    ramsay burke jones gillesphey Edwards

                      cov costello Carey

                                   apter 
                                     tanto




    Kaminski
    Burke - Jones - Gillesphey
    Ramsay - Coventry - Costello - Edwards
    Campbell - Godden - Olaofe

    OR

    Kaminski
    Ramsay - Jones - Gillesphey
    Apter - Coventry - Costello - Edwards
    Campbell - Godden - Olaofe
  • EugenesAxe
    EugenesAxe Posts: 3,352
  • Braziliance
    Braziliance Posts: 8,395
    NabySarr said:
    Wing backs need way more attacking output than Ramsay offers. He was brilliant defensively and in possession playing there in league 1 but the team didn’t have anywhere near enough threat. 

    At RCB he can still be brilliant defensively and in possession, he’s also a brilliant recovery defender which you don’t get with him further forward. 

    Right back in a back 4 is probably Ramsay’s best role but in a 3-5-2 he’s much better as the RCB than as the wing back. If we are playing Ipswich/Southampton etc then I could see him going to wing back for us being very defensive. Unless we are going to 3-4-3 and he has Apter in front of him then I can’t see him moving to wing back as a good move for us 
    If we are playing a 3421/343 I don't think we do. He will give Apter/TC/Carey/Tanto etc the freedom they may need, especially Apter.

    I also think I must watch a different version of Ramsay sometimes, he is absolutely fantastic at getting forwards, he makes it look effortless.

    As long as he can keep our right side safe and carry the ball out to give it to our attacking players, he will be fine. 

    I suspect you'd have been happy for us to sign Offiah to play right wing back instead? But if you look at Ramsay's stats compared to Offiah, they're practically identical. 



    Ramsay will be absolutely fine playing out wide if that is the plan, I would have 100% confidence in him. 

  • YannTheMann
    YannTheMann Posts: 1,044
    Jac_52 said:
    Laddick01 said:

    Interesting, we're still looking for a RB then! 
    I should bloody hope so we don't have one!
    We have 3 who can play there though in Ramsay, JRC & Apter. The fact we're after another suggests either someone is moving on or we have other plans for all the above players (or perhaps we want Ramsay out there and feel we need a replacement). Big change to the last few years when we went into multiple seasons without a single recognised senior LB. 
  • Onto the next we go. 
     
  • ForeverAddickted
    ForeverAddickted Posts: 94,728
    Holy sun tan in that second image whilst playing for Australia
  • RedRobin
    RedRobin Posts: 1,377
    Hibs fans are shocked they’ve turned a bid down, don’t rate him at all. 
  • The Prince-e-Paul
    The Prince-e-Paul Posts: 6,694
    Isn't Miller overpriced at £1m+ whilst in the last year of contract. 

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  • cabbles
    cabbles Posts: 15,261
    Surely it will be exits now in as much as incomings 

    i think 2 more incoming, but very dependent on who we can shift 
  • Braziliance
    Braziliance Posts: 8,395
    RedRobin said:
    Hibs fans are shocked they’ve turned a bid down, don’t rate him at all. 
    Mixed bag isn't it. Some are saying he is really good at right centre back, others are saying bite their hand off for a fee. 

    Most promising comments I've seen so far: 




    Hibs did finish 3rd tbf and are typically a decent side. Either way, in Jones we trust. 
  • Scoham
    Scoham Posts: 37,442
    Isn't Miller overpriced at £1m+ whilst in the last year of contract. 
    Depends how much serious interest I’d say.
  • NabySarr
    NabySarr Posts: 4,347
    NabySarr said:
    Wing backs need way more attacking output than Ramsay offers. He was brilliant defensively and in possession playing there in league 1 but the team didn’t have anywhere near enough threat. 

    At RCB he can still be brilliant defensively and in possession, he’s also a brilliant recovery defender which you don’t get with him further forward. 

    Right back in a back 4 is probably Ramsay’s best role but in a 3-5-2 he’s much better as the RCB than as the wing back. If we are playing Ipswich/Southampton etc then I could see him going to wing back for us being very defensive. Unless we are going to 3-4-3 and he has Apter in front of him then I can’t see him moving to wing back as a good move for us 
    If we are playing a 3421/343 I don't think we do. He will give Apter/TC/Carey/Tanto etc the freedom they may need, especially Apter.

    I also think I must watch a different version of Ramsay sometimes, he is absolutely fantastic at getting forwards, he makes it look effortless.

    As long as he can keep our right side safe and carry the ball out to give it to our attacking players, he will be fine. 

    I suspect you'd have been happy for us to sign Offiah to play right wing back instead? But if you look at Ramsay's stats compared to Offiah, they're practically identical. 



    Ramsay will be absolutely fine playing out wide if that is the plan, I would have 100% confidence in him. 

    Offiah would be the same dilemma, in a 3-5-2 his best role would be RCB rather than RWB. I said that when we were linked they are very similar players 

    Ramsay would be fine anywhere because he’s class, but it’s about what’s best for the team. As I said if we are playing a 3-4-3 then it would be fine, as we would have Apter in front of him so we would have the threat from that side. Ramsay is fantastic at carrying the ball forwards but at wing back you need more in the final third than he offers at the moment if it’s a 3-5-2 with him and Edwards wing backs I don’t think that’s enough final third threat, it wasn’t enough in league 1 let alone the championship 
  • Scoham said:
    Isn't Miller overpriced at £1m+ whilst in the last year of contract. 
    Depends how much serious interest I’d say.
    Galbraith was 1.5 
  • ShootersHillGuru
    ShootersHillGuru Posts: 50,656
    Miller thing is a bit odd to me. I wonder if perhaps we’ve had an enquiry for Ramsay and are now actively looking for a quality replacement. If there’s any truth in our bid I just don’t see where he fits in to what is increasingly looking like an overloaded or at least well stocked defence. Can’t see any other reason other than Ramsay replacement for the interest or bid. 
  • Oggy Red
    Oggy Red Posts: 44,962
    Isn't Miller overpriced at £1m+ whilst in the last year of contract. 
    But you can't blame Hibs for trying their luck to get the maximum fee.

    Perhaps the player has indicated that he wants to try his luck in England and doesn't want to stay?

    Hibs will know they'd get a much reduced fee in January, so maybe they'll cash in now if they can get the right replacement?



    PS:lend them Zach until Christmas 🙂
  • Redhenry
    Redhenry Posts: 5,362
    Really buzzing. We've made some great signings & pleased we are getting goals added to the squad.

    Don't expect too much more before the season starts. Maybe one or two as the window closes...probably at least one from the Prem. 

    Love it Golfy!

  • Talal
    Talal Posts: 11,511
    ButtleJR said:
    All I know about Miller is he has a ridiculous throw in, having that on both sides would be a threat. 
    Haven't had a proper long throw since Alfie May
  • CL_Phantom
    CL_Phantom Posts: 5,554
    edited July 17
    Ramsay would be fine at wingback, the emphasis on attacking threat is a bit of non argument imo, We / Jones wont "play" the ball forward for the most part, it'll be moved with runners/ pressing - Ramsay, Burke (based on his Luton goal and dover appearance), Edwards and Costello to bring the ball up field with Gillesphey's famous punt, Carey/ Apter/ Berry there as the outlet and to pick the final ball.


                    Kaminski
          Burke  Jones  Gillesphey
    Ramsay                      Edwards
             Costello Coventry
                      Carey
             Godden TC/Tanto

    Manion, Bell, Miller*, Doc, Anderson, Berry**, Apter, Leaburn, TC/Tanto

    * if signed obvs
    ** can see him missing out to a lump striker should we sign one


    Nice to have some options for this and other formations at least, been an age since we had proper depth and cover.

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  • killerandflash
    killerandflash Posts: 69,960
    Yes we have more income in the Championship,  and yes we clearly need to spend more to survive,  but this does feel like quite a change in strategy by the owners, even from January when we just brought in two squad filling loan players,  rather than "statement " signings. 
  • fenaddick
    fenaddick Posts: 11,403
    edited July 17
    Comments under Miller’s contract extension in April are very positive

    https://x.com/hibernianfc/status/1914620780601655565?s=46&t=MojDVxh_AjG5taAWPQn6Tw
  • blackpool72
    blackpool72 Posts: 23,717
    I'm delighted we have made so many what on paper at least look very good signings. 
    Can't say I'm surprised though because NJ would not have signed a long-term contract unless he was promised these sort of signings. 
    Things starting to look very promising at long last. 
  • cafcdave123
    cafcdave123 Posts: 11,491
    All my mums side of the family are Hibs and I got this from my cousin who’s a ST holder at Easter road 


  • wmcf123
    wmcf123 Posts: 5,834
    Ramsay would be fine at wingback, the emphasis on attacking threat is a bit of non argument imo, We / Jones wont "play" the ball forward for the most part, it'll be moved with runners/ pressing - Ramsay, Burke (based on his Luton goal and dover appearance), Edwards and Costello to bring the ball up field with Gillesphey's famous punt, Carey/ Apter/ Berry there as the outlet and to pick the final ball.


                    Kaminski
          Burke  Jones  Gillesphey
    Ramsay                      Edwards
             Costello Coventry
                      Carey
             Godden TC/Tanto

    Manion, Bell, Miller*, Doc, Anderson, Berry**, Apter, Leaburn, TC/Tanto

    * if signed obvs
    ** can see him missing out to a lump striker should we sign one


    Nice to have some options for this and other formations at least, been an age since we had proper depth and cover.
    If you’re playing 5 defenders , you need three attacking players .  
  • Braziliance
    Braziliance Posts: 8,395
    edited July 17
    Miller thing is a bit odd to me. I wonder if perhaps we’ve had an enquiry for Ramsay and are now actively looking for a quality replacement. If there’s any truth in our bid I just don’t see where he fits in to what is increasingly looking like an overloaded or at least well stocked defence. Can’t see any other reason other than Ramsay replacement for the interest or bid. 
    We are so damaged that our fans have forgot what it feels like to have squad depth. 

    We have no right back other than Ramsay (unless you count Asiimwe), no right wing back, one left back, 2 if you count Bell.

    Edwards, Bell, Gillesphey, Jones, Burke, Mitchell (s) and Ramsay, to cover 5 defensive slots. One more is normal squad numbers when you consider injuries and 46 games. 

    I would more lean towards one of the Mitchell's going out on loan than selling Ramsay. 

    Having this many options is very normal and how proper clubs are run, competition for spots and squad depth. 
  • NabySarr
    NabySarr Posts: 4,347
    edited July 17
    Ramsay would be fine at wingback, the emphasis on attacking threat is a bit of non argument imo, We / Jones wont "play" the ball forward for the most part, it'll be moved with runners/ pressing - Ramsay, Burke (based on his Luton goal and dover appearance), Edwards and Costello to bring the ball up field with Gillesphey's famous punt, Carey/ Apter/ Berry there as the outlet and to pick the final ball.


                    Kaminski
          Burke  Jones  Gillesphey
    Ramsay                      Edwards
             Costello Coventry
                      Carey
             Godden TC/Tanto

    Manion, Bell, Miller*, Doc, Anderson, Berry**, Apter, Leaburn, TC/Tanto

    * if signed obvs
    ** can see him missing out to a lump striker should we sign one


    Nice to have some options for this and other formations at least, been an age since we had proper depth and cover.
    We’ve just spent our biggest fee in a decade on Apter, so he’s definitely going to be in the team on the right as that’s his best position. So he’s either going to replace Small in that role or we are going to play 3-4-3/3-4-2-1 and he will play with Ramsay behind him 
  • Chris_from_Sidcup
    Chris_from_Sidcup Posts: 36,090
    Ramsay would be fine at wingback, the emphasis on attacking threat is a bit of non argument imo, We / Jones wont "play" the ball forward for the most part, it'll be moved with runners/ pressing - Ramsay, Burke (based on his Luton goal and dover appearance), Edwards and Costello to bring the ball up field with Gillesphey's famous punt, Carey/ Apter/ Berry there as the outlet and to pick the final ball.


                    Kaminski
          Burke  Jones  Gillesphey
    Ramsay                      Edwards
             Costello Coventry
                      Carey
             Godden TC/Tanto

    Manion, Bell, Miller*, Doc, Anderson, Berry**, Apter, Leaburn, TC/Tanto

    * if signed obvs
    ** can see him missing out to a lump striker should we sign one


    Nice to have some options for this and other formations at least, been an age since we had proper depth and cover.
    I can't imagine we've spent 2-2.5m on Apter to sit him on the bench.