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Deadline Day from Pg.641 - Summer 2025 Charlton Athletic Transfer Rumours

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  • ShootersHillGuru
    ShootersHillGuru Posts: 50,658
    Scoham said:
    Like JRC it’s going to be interesting to see what NJ says about Apter. A lot of possibilities.

    A very attacking RWB like Small, effectively playing as a RW.

    As a 10, either competing with Carey and Berry, or two 10s as we saw vs Dartford if we move from 3-5-2 to 3-4-2-1.

    Up front with freedom to drift wide, like TC, which can be in last seasons 3-5-2 but also an option in a 4-4-2 diamond.

    A lot less likely, a formation change to either 4-3-3 or 4-2-3-1. I don’t see that being anything more than an occasional option as we’ve brought in 2 CBs, and Bell is very much a LCB in a back 3, rather than a CB in a back four. 
    Why not just spread out ?
  • NabySarr
    NabySarr Posts: 4,380
    Personally can’t see 3-4-3 happening, Jones has always been a manger that likes to pack the middle of the pitch. Going to 2 CMs and Apter and TC out wide would be quite uncharacteristic of him. I suspect it was just a set up we used against Dartford to get all the players he wanted minutes 

    I think Apter will slot in to the Small role in most games. We then have Ramsay as an option there if we want to be more defensive against some of the bigger sides and then Apter might feature further forward 
  • mendonca
    mendonca Posts: 9,423
    edited July 15
    We are assembling a squad with Championship ambitions, focused on sustainable growth and long-term success. As NJ has stated, there is little room for emotional decisions. If players such as TC or Doc are having those anonymous moments that we know they can, we now have the squad depth to make changes.

    Also, there seems to be some misunderstanding amongst some fans around transfer fees. Nowadays, deals are rarely paid in full upfront. Most are structured with instalments, performance-based clauses, and add-ons. 
  • soapboxsam
    soapboxsam Posts: 23,239
    Scoham said:
    Like JRC it’s going to be interesting to see what NJ says about Apter. A lot of possibilities.

    A very attacking RWB like Small, effectively playing as a RW.

    As a 10, either competing with Carey and Berry, or two 10s as we saw vs Dartford if we move from 3-5-2 to 3-4-2-1.

    Up front with freedom to drift wide, like TC, which can be in last seasons 3-5-2 but also an option in a 4-4-2 diamond.

    A lot less likely, a formation change to either 4-3-3 or 4-2-3-1. I don’t see that being anything more than an occasional option as we’ve brought in 2 CBs, and Bell is very much a LCB in a back 3, rather than a CB in a back four. 
    Why not just spread out ?

    As well as play with a smile on the face just like Carlos Alcaraz whether he is winning or losing 😉
  • bolloxbolder
    bolloxbolder Posts: 7,986
    For me if we've paid £2m or more for Apter than it would have been better spent on Galbraith, who to me looks like the real deal. 

    Maybe he just didn't want to come, but to me his credentials are far stronger than Apter's.

    Still no stand out signing for me. I worry where the goals will come from in this squad. No proven championship striker, given Godden's age.

    I'm still excited that it will be championship football this season though, but I suspect we will be witnessing more grind out results football from us. Hopefully we can finish 21st.
  • charlton_hero
    charlton_hero Posts: 4,672
    Can someone check in on Belinda Keillor-Dunn to see who she's following on X.
    She started following Preston this morning 
  • soapboxsam
    soapboxsam Posts: 23,239
    Can we follow Henry's usual mantra for Rob Apter as there will be Omelette on faces if it doesn't become a done deal.
  • Yann897
    Yann897 Posts: 1,530
    For me if we've paid £2m or more for Apter than it would have been better spent on Galbraith, who to me looks like the real deal. 

    Maybe he just didn't want to come, but to me his credentials are far stronger than Apter's.

    Still no stand out signing for me. I worry where the goals will come from in this squad. No proven championship striker, given Godden's age.

    I'm still excited that it will be championship football this season though, but I suspect we will be witnessing more grind out results football from us. Hopefully we can finish 21st.
    If Godden gets a chance at any level I’d have confidence in him getting goals.

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  • NabySarr
    NabySarr Posts: 4,380
    edited July 15
    For me if we've paid £2m or more for Apter than it would have been better spent on Galbraith, who to me looks like the real deal. 

    Maybe he just didn't want to come, but to me his credentials are far stronger than Apter's.

    Still no stand out signing for me. I worry where the goals will come from in this squad. No proven championship striker, given Godden's age.

    I'm still excited that it will be championship football this season though, but I suspect we will be witnessing more grind out results football from us. Hopefully we can finish 21st.
    Galbraith was never going to want to come to us realistically. Nor will pretty much anyone who also has interest from teams with playoff aspirations. 

    We are new to the league so therefore seen as a risk of relegation, any player will pick the established championship team over us this season, if we stay up then we can start to compete for that level of player next season
  • For me if we've paid £2m or more for Apter than it would have been better spent on Galbraith, who to me looks like the real deal. 

    Maybe he just didn't want to come, but to me his credentials are far stronger than Apter's.

    Still no stand out signing for me. I worry where the goals will come from in this squad. No proven championship striker, given Godden's age.

    I'm still excited that it will be championship football this season though, but I suspect we will be witnessing more grind out results football from us. Hopefully we can finish 21st.
    Galbraith didn’t want to come to us so you can it would have been better spent on him as much as you like but it wasn’t realistic. 
  • haff5
    haff5 Posts: 58
    For me if we've paid £2m or more for Apter than it would have been better spent on Galbraith, who to me looks like the real deal. 

    Maybe he just didn't want to come, but to me his credentials are far stronger than Apter's.

    Still no stand out signing for me. I worry where the goals will come from in this squad. No proven championship striker, given Godden's age.

    I'm still excited that it will be championship football this season though, but I suspect we will be witnessing more grind out results football from us. Hopefully we can finish 21st.
    Don't think the transfer fee was the issue with EG
  • Braziliance
    Braziliance Posts: 8,406
    edited July 15
    For me if we've paid £2m or more for Apter than it would have been better spent on Galbraith, who to me looks like the real deal. 

    Maybe he just didn't want to come, but to me his credentials are far stronger than Apter's.

    Still no stand out signing for me. I worry where the goals will come from in this squad. No proven championship striker, given Godden's age.

    I'm still excited that it will be championship football this season though, but I suspect we will be witnessing more grind out results football from us. Hopefully we can finish 21st.
    I think in this scenario we are paying for the 2* year age difference, Apters potential/sell on value is much higher than Galbraiths.

    I reckon the club genuinely set a price on this ocassion knowing JRC was the back up option if it fell through with Galbraith. When you compare their ages, and experience, not a terrible decision and could be quite shrewd, especially as Galbraith is technically unproven at Champ level (I suspect he will do well though)

    All I hope now is we have a one more trick up our sleeves. Still think we need a versatile forward (Keillor-Dunn is a dream) and still think we need an all action centre mid. Fingers crossed 🤞🏻 
  • Scoham
    Scoham Posts: 37,478
    mendonca said:
    We are assembling a squad with Championship ambitions, focused on sustainable growth and long-term success. As NJ has stated, there is little room for emotional decisions. If players such as TC or Doc are having those anonymous moments that we know they can, we now have the squad depth to make changes.

    Also, there seems to be some misunderstanding amongst some fans around transfer fees. Nowadays, deals are rarely paid in full upfront. Most are structured with instalments, performance-based clauses, and add-ons. 
    I think most are aware, the point is more we’ve spent significantly more on fees than last summer, and a lot more than many expected. How they’re structured and what clauses there are doesn’t change that point.
  • mendonca
    mendonca Posts: 9,423
    For me if we've paid £2m or more for Apter than it would have been better spent on Galbraith, who to me looks like the real deal. 

    Maybe he just didn't want to come, but to me his credentials are far stronger than Apter's.

    Still no stand out signing for me. I worry where the goals will come from in this squad. No proven championship striker, given Godden's age.

    I'm still excited that it will be championship football this season though, but I suspect we will be witnessing more grind out results football from us. Hopefully we can finish 21st.
    It’s unlikely to be as simple as choosing between Galbraith and Apter. Perhaps the final win meant they became very awkward to deal with as a club. 
  • Scoham
    Scoham Posts: 37,478
    https://x.com/cafc73828/status/1945038569514365073?s=46&t=A-w3Eq0EWWpjMxring904Q

    Some nice goals in there. Obviously his best bits and it doesn’t show the missed chances, but what sticks out for me is the composure he shows. A lot of calmly taken well placed finishes in there, looks to have a lot of potential as a goalscoring winger.

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  • Crispywood
    Crispywood Posts: 716
    haff5 said:
    I really think there’s something in the DKD link too. DKD behind Tanto, Godden or Leaburn with TC and Apter out wide is in my opinion about as good as we could hope for with our budget.

    If we sign DKD (unlikely), the board have gone massively above and beyond expectations
    Spent 6M on transfer fees alone think they’ve already done that without DKD 
  • eastterrace6168
    eastterrace6168 Posts: 22,891
    Let's not forger Messi is still available...🙄
  • eaststandmike
    eaststandmike Posts: 14,956
    haff5 said:
    I really think there’s something in the DKD link too. DKD behind Tanto, Godden or Leaburn with TC and Apter out wide is in my opinion about as good as we could hope for with our budget.

    If we sign DKD (unlikely), the board have gone massively above and beyond expectations
    Spent 6M on transfer fees alone think they’ve already done that without DKD 
    Where have you got the 6m figure from?
  • For me if we've paid £2m or more for Apter than it would have been better spent on Galbraith, who to me looks like the real deal. 

    Maybe he just didn't want to come, but to me his credentials are far stronger than Apter's.

    Still no stand out signing for me. I worry where the goals will come from in this squad. No proven championship striker, given Godden's age.

    I'm still excited that it will be championship football this season though, but I suspect we will be witnessing more grind out results football from us. Hopefully we can finish 21st.
    I think in this scenario we are paying for the 2* year age difference, Apters potential/sell on value is much higher than Galbraiths.

    I reckon the club genuinely set a price on this ocassion knowing JRC was the back up option if it fell through with Galbraith. When you compare their ages, and experience, not a terrible decision and could be quite shrewd, especially as Galbraith is technically unproven at Champ level (I suspect he will do well though)

    All I hope now is we have a one more trick up our sleeves. Still think we need a versatile forward (Keillor-Dunn is a dream) and still think we need an all action centre mid. Fingers crossed 🤞🏻 
    Disagree with this, I think Galbraith will be playing prem football within 2 years. Plus they spent 1.5 mill on him, he will go for 10 mill plus 
  • haff5 said:
    I really think there’s something in the DKD link too. DKD behind Tanto, Godden or Leaburn with TC and Apter out wide is in my opinion about as good as we could hope for with our budget.

    If we sign DKD (unlikely), the board have gone massively above and beyond expectations
    Spent 6M on transfer fees alone think they’ve already done that without DKD 
    Where have you got the 6m figure from?
    Tanto - 1.5m
    Kaminski - 800k/1m
    Apter - 2m/2.5m
    JRC - 750k
    Burke - guessing 300k
     
    Its around the 6m mark

  • Yann897
    Yann897 Posts: 1,530
    haff5 said:
    I really think there’s something in the DKD link too. DKD behind Tanto, Godden or Leaburn with TC and Apter out wide is in my opinion about as good as we could hope for with our budget.

    If we sign DKD (unlikely), the board have gone massively above and beyond expectations
    Spent 6M on transfer fees alone think they’ve already done that without DKD 
    Where have you got the 6m figure from?
    It’s definitely around that .
    Olaofe - 1.5m
    kaminski - 1m
    Costeklo -750k
    Burke ( not sure but I’d say 500k at a guess )
    Apter - 2m-2.5m 
  • Callumcafc
    Callumcafc Posts: 63,858
    edited July 15
    Going to bang the xG drum so skip me if you don’t care for it.

    Over the last two seasons he has massively outperformed his xG both times. This indicates towards a player who, when he gets into a scoring position, tends to find the back of the net more often than other players.

    Finding a player like that is obviously good for any team but you’d think would be critical for a side expected to finish in the bottom half of the table and need to make the most out of limited attacking options against high quality opposition.

    Wish I could bookmark my own posts but I would not be at all shocked to see a few 0-1 or 1-1 scores next season where R. Apter is our only goalscorer.

    24/25: 8 goals from 4.83 xG in League One (69 shots total)
    23/24: 12 goals from 6.57 xG in League Two (103 shots total)
  • Pelling1993
    Pelling1993 Posts: 6,741
    Swisdom said:
    From looking at some of Apter's highlights he reminds me a bit of Mark Robson being a left footed right winger.  Placement rather than power with his shooting.  Very slight build so may get outmuscled but appears to be pretty tenacious too.

    And not being funny but some of those finishes - if it were Cole Palmer the pundits would be going mad.  Lovely direct runs into the box and a calm, slotted finish.  The boy has got skills.  I'll allow him to join
    He was brilliant for Tranmere on loan the season before albeit in League 2. Some nice goals in there too
  • fenaddick
    fenaddick Posts: 11,644
    Going to bang the xG drum so skip me if you don’t care for it.

    Over the last seasons he has massively outperformed his xG both times. This indicates towards a player who, when he gets into a scoring position, tends to find the back of the net more often than other players.

    Finding a player like that is obviously good for any team but you’d think would be critical for a side expected to finish in the bottom half of the table and need to make the most out of limited attacking options against high quality opposition.

    Wish I could bookmark my own posts but I would not be at all shocked to see a few 0-1 or 1-1 scores next season where R. Apter is our only goalscorer.

    24/25: 8 goals from 4.83 xG in League One (69 shots total)
    23/24: 12 goals from 6.57 xG in League Two (103 shots total)
    And not too dissimilar from TC's 24/25: 7 goals from 3.57xG (61 shots), similar finishes from what I can see too. Can see why NJ is interested for sure