pet hate of mine - absolutely no excuse for not putting things in the bin, some of the shit left in Danson park on warm evenings beggers belief, walking the dogs early morning and there's crap everywhere
Just curious whether an increasing litter problem is simply a London issue or are other areas affected?
So much rubbish is not cleared up in Greenwich and Lewisham - assume this is all down to cost cutting.
My old man goes on morning walks with a bin bag and a litter picker down in East Grinstead and he comes back with a rammed bag pretty much every day. Very sad that people are just so selfish
I think it's a constant feature these days sadly. Like feet on seats on trains. But littering of the fly tipping variety has no doubt been aggravated by charges at council dumps/ 'recycling centres' in those areas that have that- i'm not sure if Greenwich or Lewisham do. For general littering and fly tipping and other things reportable to the council i use https://www.fixmystreet.co.uk and get a prompt response from Bexley. I don't think Greenwich use it- they have a different process i think.
Outside of London I've been amazed at litter on one Somerset beach. There the council just rely on the tide to come in and take it all away, and it mostly does, from what can be seen. They'd have to collect before high tide each day in the high season and the times do vary, but i'm sure they could do more. As it is they get away with doing nothing.
I think it's a constant feature these days sadly. Like feet on seats on trains. But littering of the fly tipping variety has no doubt been aggravated by charges at council dumps/ 'recycling centres' in those areas that have that- i'm not sure if Greenwich or Lewisham do. For general littering and fly tipping and other things reportable to the council i use https://www.fixmystreet.co.uk and get a prompt response from Bexley. I don't think Greenwich use it- they have a different process i think.
The West Norwood Recycling centre near me is absolutely shocking. Can't take anything vaguely useful to it. I have had to go all the way to Wandsworth to get rid of soil, garden trimmings etc.
Penalty for a second offence should be summary execution on the spot. That'll learn em.
Shop a fly tipper should get a council tax reduction for the person reporting imo. Liverpool council discussed this years ago, but it never made it through the relevant committee(s).
Mayow park in Sydenham yesterday was horrendous, quite a few bins were full so people very kindly piled their rubbish next to them, instead of going to fill the empty ones that were slightly out of their way.
Someone had even had a party there and cleared most of their stuff but in an act of extreme community spirit had left a large plastic patio table and Cinderella table cloth.
I think it's a constant feature these days sadly. Like feet on seats on trains. But littering of the fly tipping variety has no doubt been aggravated by charges at council dumps/ 'recycling centres' in those areas that have that- i'm not sure if Greenwich or Lewisham do. For general littering and fly tipping and other things reportable to the council i use https://www.fixmystreet.co.uk and get a prompt response from Bexley. I don't think Greenwich use it- they have a different process i think.
Outside of London I've been amazed at litter on one Somerset beach. There the council just rely on the tide to come in and take it all away, and it mostly does, from what can be seen. They'd have to collect before high tide each day in the high season and the times do vary, but i'm sure they could do more. As it is they get away with doing nothing.
Just curious whether an increasing litter problem is simply a London issue or are other areas affected?
So much rubbish is not cleared up in Greenwich and Lewisham - assume this is all down to cost cutting.
My old man goes on morning walks with a bin bag and a litter picker down in East Grinstead and he comes back with a rammed bag pretty much every day. Very sad that people are just so selfish
I do this, sometimes, when i can. Can't help myself. Then i read somewhere how good it can be for mental health for some, and i'll probably do it more and more as i get older, along with regular reporting to fixmystreet. The a*holes doing it aren't going to stop and we are in a throwaway society for the foreseeable.
I go out every Sunday morning with two bin bags and within a 150 yard stretch of my block of flats I'll fill at least one with rubbish. We suffer from a lack of house fronts nearby as well as a Travelodge on the corner whose patrons see fit to leave whatever they wish outside.
I get to strike up conversation with people and just being visible doing the job must make people think. I'd say the biggest menaces are foxes, people who empty the footwells of their cars onto the kerbside and dog walkers who think doing the bulk of the job by picking up and bagging their dog's excrement means it's then fair game to leave on walls, in bushes etc.
I enjoy the sense of having a clean street and am slowly galvanising my neighbours into joining my litter picking gang. Fella opposite saw me doing it years ago and introduced himself as a Bromley Council employee so he kindly provides decent bin bags and litter grabbers as and when I need them.
Just curious whether an increasing litter problem is simply a London issue or are other areas affected?
So much rubbish is not cleared up in Greenwich and Lewisham - assume this is all down to cost cutting.
Just down to ignorance of the perpetrator, and is everywhere, you just have to look at the reports of what people leave behind at Glastonbury, no excuse for dropping litter on any street, not just London...
Just curious whether an increasing litter problem is simply a London issue or are other areas affected?
So much rubbish is not cleared up in Greenwich and Lewisham - assume this is all down to cost cutting.
I've just come back from Italy , if you think London has a problem you should see the state of some of their big cities. Graffiti and Litter is shocking . London is paradise compared.
Seeing people drop litter is one of the occasions when I wish I was a double hard bastard who had the cojones to back up telling a scrote (or scrotess) to pick it up.
Anyone who loves their country doesn’t drop litter.
Anyone who is a guest in another country should not drop litter.
My pet hate is litter thrown from cars.
Why not keep until you get home or refuel and deposit then ?
I had some red mist descend once on seeing someone throw a can out the window of a moving car on the south circular many years ago. I pulled up alongside at the next lights and threw a paper cup into their open window except i missed, it was paper and didn't carry despite my best throw, so then i was the one littering and i pledged never to try that again.
Seeing people drop litter is one of the occasions when I wish I was a double hard bastard who had the cojones to back up telling a scrote (or scrotess) to pick it up.
Reminded of the time i saw a woman (while on her mobile) throw a bottle into a bush in Sydenham near where i lived. I managed to politely ask her to pick it up. She climbed over a small fence and picked up several discarded cans nearby explaining that she couldn't find hers. I thanked her. These days i offer to pick it up for people as a way to avoid escalation and still make the ever more subtle point.
Down at durdle door right now after being at a wedding in Portland over the weekend. Arrived last night and wondered down to the beach as most people were clearing out and the amount of litter left everywhere was horrendous. They do have litter pickers but it's one or 2 staff in the morning. No way they can do the entire beach, path and car park.
Pissed us off so much we went to the little shop got some gloves and bin bags then after a run and swim this morning spent an hour picking up what we could. Filled 5 bags.
Makes me angry. Haven't seen a beach this bad before. Given its such a beautiful tourist spot it's a shame.
I think the issue here is that a lot of people have gone on the back of seeing it on social media and aren't prepared for the pretty tough walk down and back up to the car park. Most people don't have proper shoes for the climb back up so they can't be arsed to carry their rubbish up as well.
I think it's a constant feature these days sadly. Like feet on seats on trains. But littering of the fly tipping variety has no doubt been aggravated by charges at council dumps/ 'recycling centres' in those areas that have that- i'm not sure if Greenwich or Lewisham do. For general littering and fly tipping and other things reportable to the council i use https://www.fixmystreet.co.uk and get a prompt response from Bexley. I don't think Greenwich use it- they have a different process i think.
Outside of London I've been amazed at litter on one Somerset beach. There the council just rely on the tide to come in and take it all away, and it mostly does, from what can be seen. They'd have to collect before high tide each day in the high season and the times do vary, but i'm sure they could do more. As it is they get away with doing nothing.
Next time I walk down the Thames towpath from Greenwich I'll send some pictures of all the rubbish that's been dumped or not collected. It's a disgrace...
Seeing people drop litter is one of the occasions when I wish I was a double hard bastard who had the cojones to back up telling a scrote (or scrotess) to pick it up.
Ha ha but you don’t need to be a hard bastard. I remember my Dad once picking up something that was thrown out of a car window and throwing it back in, lol.
I have once or twice picked things up and taken them back to the person who dropped it, saying something politely like ’sorry but you dropped this.’
I live on Salford Quays - on a nice day, people that work in the offices will have their lunch on the Quays and the amount of people that leave their food packaging on a bench, quite literally next to a bin, is fucking infuriating.
Seeing people drop litter is one of the occasions when I wish I was a double hard bastard who had the cojones to back up telling a scrote (or scrotess) to pick it up.
Even if you was mate there's no guarantees they're not carrying knife.
As tempting as it is it's just not worth the risk.
The riverside down in Eynsford used to be a nice place to sit and watch the world go by. Now it’s full of rubbish and yobs chucking water in people’s open top cars. Apparently a bride and groom coming out of the nearby church got a bucket of water over them too.
Having said that, I’m outside Cobham services at the moment and a group of kids around 12yrs old were just leaving and one of them left some rubbish on the table. The others had a right go at her and she put it in a bin.
I was walking through the park near me the other day and saw a family having a party of some sort. All seemed good natured. About 20 people. Disposable BBQs and such. The following morning I walked past the spot again and they had apparently bagged up all their rubbish, filled the nearest litter bin and left all the stuff that didn't fit in next to the bin. About 3-4 black sacks worth. Animals or wind got involved overnight and their rubbish was all over the place.
It really bugged me that they'd been so childish as to think "we've put it next to a bin, so we've done our bit!". And it also bugged me that so many of us were walking around the rubbish, feeling like it's not our problem 'cos we didn't create the mess, and we don't work for the council.
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Outside of London I've been amazed at litter on one Somerset beach. There the council just rely on the tide to come in and take it all away, and it mostly does, from what can be seen. They'd have to collect before high tide each day in the high season and the times do vary, but i'm sure they could do more. As it is they get away with doing nothing.
https://www.royalgreenwich.gov.uk/parking-transport-and-streets/report-issues-street
I get to strike up conversation with people and just being visible doing the job must make people think. I'd say the biggest menaces are foxes, people who empty the footwells of their cars onto the kerbside and dog walkers who think doing the bulk of the job by picking up and bagging their dog's excrement means it's then fair game to leave on walls, in bushes etc.
I enjoy the sense of having a clean street and am slowly galvanising my neighbours into joining my litter picking gang. Fella opposite saw me doing it years ago and introduced himself as a Bromley Council employee so he kindly provides decent bin bags and litter grabbers as and when I need them.
Pissed us off so much we went to the little shop got some gloves and bin bags then after a run and swim this morning spent an hour picking up what we could. Filled 5 bags.
Makes me angry. Haven't seen a beach this bad before. Given its such a beautiful tourist spot it's a shame.
I think the issue here is that a lot of people have gone on the back of seeing it on social media and aren't prepared for the pretty tough walk down and back up to the car park. Most people don't have proper shoes for the climb back up so they can't be arsed to carry their rubbish up as well.
Also a seems to be a ridiculous amount of dogshit left on the pavement in SE London as well. Social contract falling apart
I have once or twice picked things up and taken them back to the person who dropped it, saying something politely like ’sorry but you dropped this.’
As tempting as it is it's just not worth the risk.
It really bugged me that they'd been so childish as to think "we've put it next to a bin, so we've done our bit!". And it also bugged me that so many of us were walking around the rubbish, feeling like it's not our problem 'cos we didn't create the mess, and we don't work for the council.