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Sinner was two sets down when he played Dimitrov and was second best, so he was lucky to be in the final. He was the better player today though.0
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Different offences though, not all the same level; not condoning it but some worse than othersSELR_addicks said:Drug cheat wins Wimbledon. Another day.
Will always be people willing to stick their heads in the sand whilst every major sport is infected by artificial athletes at the top level.
An honest conversation needs to be had. Either you're allowing it and take the consequences that comes with it, or you ban it and actually ban it rather than allowing these cheats to prosper.1 -
Help needed please! Does anyone think that Darren Cahill resembles a former English football manager? I’m racking my brain trying to think who that guy is!0
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Tony Pulis?Bods64 said:Help needed please! Does anyone think that Darren Cahill resembles a former English football manager? I’m racking my brain trying to think who that guy is!3 -
Some doping offences are as a result of a mistake and no advantage was gained. Others are an obvious intention to cheat.PrincessFiona said:
Different offences though, not all the same level; not condoning it but some worse than othersSELR_addicks said:Drug cheat wins Wimbledon. Another day.
Will always be people willing to stick their heads in the sand whilst every major sport is infected by artificial athletes at the top level.
An honest conversation needs to be had. Either you're allowing it and take the consequences that comes with it, or you ban it and actually ban it rather than allowing these cheats to prosper.
I don't understand why people think they're all the same? Some of the arguments on here are utterly ludicrous.
I don't see any conclusive evidence that Sinner is a drugs cheat having read numerous articles on the matter. Maybe people on here know better?
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But can Sinner do it on a cold windy evening in Stoke?bolloxbolder said:
Tony Pulis?Bods64 said:Help needed please! Does anyone think that Darren Cahill resembles a former English football manager? I’m racking my brain trying to think who that guy is!0 -
Francesca Jones won the Challenger Event at Contrexeville and Jack Pinnington Jones won at Birmingham. Both working their way up the rankings.
Jones up to 104 in the rankings.3 -
Thoroughly enjoyed the men's final .. they both made a very difficult game to play well, look easy and showed terrific sportsmanship under great pressure.
Sinner picks up £3 Million, Alcaraz just over a mere £1.5 Million, nice1 -
Played in the right spirit - pity all sports can't follow the sportsmanship.Lincsaddick said:Thoroughly enjoyed the men's final .. they both made a very difficult game to play well, look easy and showed terrific sportsmanship under great pressure.
Sinner picks up £3 Million, Alcaraz just over a mere £1.5 Million, nice
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Alcaraz is such a happy guy and with 5 slams by 22 he doesn't need to cry when he loses. Enough money already to last a lifetime and the rivalry with Sinner the winner this time, could be around for a while as Carlos is a joy to watch.
I only saw a few games as was at the Kent cricket but why did Annabel Croft ask Alcaraz if he would be back next year ? Did she think she was talking to Djokovic!
Also Andrew Castle again did a Coleman ball with after talking about Arthur Ash and his sad demise said Alcaraz was taken too early 🤦🏼♂️0 -
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what were the views of his peers to the banhoof_it_up_to_benty said:
Some doping offences are as a result of a mistake and no advantage was gained. Others are an obvious intention to cheat.PrincessFiona said:
Different offences though, not all the same level; not condoning it but some worse than othersSELR_addicks said:Drug cheat wins Wimbledon. Another day.
Will always be people willing to stick their heads in the sand whilst every major sport is infected by artificial athletes at the top level.
An honest conversation needs to be had. Either you're allowing it and take the consequences that comes with it, or you ban it and actually ban it rather than allowing these cheats to prosper.
I don't understand why people think they're all the same? Some of the arguments on here are utterly ludicrous.
I don't see any conclusive evidence that Sinner is a drugs cheat having read numerous articles on the matter. Maybe people on here know better?
were they, that's an obvious miscarriage of justice, or were they only three months and doesnt even miss a grand slam ?0 -
That's a separate issue as to how it was handled - undoubtedly players are not all treated equally when it comes to these issues and how quickly they they are resolved. Same in every sport.MrOneLung said:
what were the views of his peers to the banhoof_it_up_to_benty said:
Some doping offences are as a result of a mistake and no advantage was gained. Others are an obvious intention to cheat.PrincessFiona said:
Different offences though, not all the same level; not condoning it but some worse than othersSELR_addicks said:Drug cheat wins Wimbledon. Another day.
Will always be people willing to stick their heads in the sand whilst every major sport is infected by artificial athletes at the top level.
An honest conversation needs to be had. Either you're allowing it and take the consequences that comes with it, or you ban it and actually ban it rather than allowing these cheats to prosper.
I don't understand why people think they're all the same? Some of the arguments on here are utterly ludicrous.
I don't see any conclusive evidence that Sinner is a drugs cheat having read numerous articles on the matter. Maybe people on here know better?
were they, that's an obvious miscarriage of justice, or were they only three months and doesnt even miss a grand slam ?
Nobody has said he didn't commit an offence. The question is whether it was a mistake or deliberate cheating? Obviously there are different views on this.
From what I've read regarding the case I don't believe he is a drugs cheat.
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I know quite a bit about doping actually, more than the average person I would say.hoof_it_up_to_benty said:
Some doping offences are as a result of a mistake and no advantage was gained. Others are an obvious intention to cheat.PrincessFiona said:
Different offences though, not all the same level; not condoning it but some worse than othersSELR_addicks said:Drug cheat wins Wimbledon. Another day.
Will always be people willing to stick their heads in the sand whilst every major sport is infected by artificial athletes at the top level.
An honest conversation needs to be had. Either you're allowing it and take the consequences that comes with it, or you ban it and actually ban it rather than allowing these cheats to prosper.
I don't understand why people think they're all the same? Some of the arguments on here are utterly ludicrous.
I don't see any conclusive evidence that Sinner is a drugs cheat having read numerous articles on the matter. Maybe people on here know better?
I'll tell you now it is very hard to dope by 'mistake'. You don't just eat a banana and it's been jabbed with PEDs. Your coaches don't just accidentally give you drugs.
It's the same as when Canelo claimed the meat he ate was infected with clenbuterol, it is so much nonsense 😂
You are insanely rich as top athletes, you can afford the finest chefs and quality food, you managed to accidentally take drugs? I'm sorry but it is nonsense.
The likelihood is, Sinner was on more than was actually found, it's even the same for athletes who don't fail tests, they just aren't getting caught a lot of the time. There are ways to time cycles and counteract drugs.
In the famous words of Nate Diaz "Everybody's on steroids".0 -
Anyone can make allegations but ultimately you have to prove them. I'm under no illusion that a lot of athletes are using drugs but there has to be proof.Braziliance said:
I know quite a bit about doping actually, more than the average person I would say.hoof_it_up_to_benty said:
Some doping offences are as a result of a mistake and no advantage was gained. Others are an obvious intention to cheat.PrincessFiona said:
Different offences though, not all the same level; not condoning it but some worse than othersSELR_addicks said:Drug cheat wins Wimbledon. Another day.
Will always be people willing to stick their heads in the sand whilst every major sport is infected by artificial athletes at the top level.
An honest conversation needs to be had. Either you're allowing it and take the consequences that comes with it, or you ban it and actually ban it rather than allowing these cheats to prosper.
I don't understand why people think they're all the same? Some of the arguments on here are utterly ludicrous.
I don't see any conclusive evidence that Sinner is a drugs cheat having read numerous articles on the matter. Maybe people on here know better?
I'll tell you now it is very hard to dope by 'mistake'. You don't just eat a banana and it's been jabbed with PEDs. Your coaches don't just accidentally give you drugs.
It's the same as when Canelo claimed the meat he ate was infected with clenbuterol, it is so much nonsense 😂
You are insanely rich as top athletes, you can afford the finest chefs and quality food, you managed to accidentally take drugs? I'm sorry but it is nonsense.
The likelihood is, Sinner was on more than was actually found, it's even the same for athletes who don't fail tests, they just aren't getting caught a lot of the time. There are ways to time cycles and counteract drugs.
In the famous words of Nate Diaz "Everybody's on steroids".
If Sinner is a serial drugs cheat then I would imagine a journalist would be investigating this case and we will hear in due course.
What exactly is your knowledge of doping based on other than hearsay? Do you work in the field?
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This isn't an allegation though. I am saying in the examples of these athletes saying they were accidentally doping, it's just extremely unlikely.hoof_it_up_to_benty said:
Anyone can make allegations but ultimately you have to prove them. I'm under no illusion that a lot of athletes are using drugs but there has to be proof.Braziliance said:
I know quite a bit about doping actually, more than the average person I would say.hoof_it_up_to_benty said:
Some doping offences are as a result of a mistake and no advantage was gained. Others are an obvious intention to cheat.PrincessFiona said:
Different offences though, not all the same level; not condoning it but some worse than othersSELR_addicks said:Drug cheat wins Wimbledon. Another day.
Will always be people willing to stick their heads in the sand whilst every major sport is infected by artificial athletes at the top level.
An honest conversation needs to be had. Either you're allowing it and take the consequences that comes with it, or you ban it and actually ban it rather than allowing these cheats to prosper.
I don't understand why people think they're all the same? Some of the arguments on here are utterly ludicrous.
I don't see any conclusive evidence that Sinner is a drugs cheat having read numerous articles on the matter. Maybe people on here know better?
I'll tell you now it is very hard to dope by 'mistake'. You don't just eat a banana and it's been jabbed with PEDs. Your coaches don't just accidentally give you drugs.
It's the same as when Canelo claimed the meat he ate was infected with clenbuterol, it is so much nonsense 😂
You are insanely rich as top athletes, you can afford the finest chefs and quality food, you managed to accidentally take drugs? I'm sorry but it is nonsense.
The likelihood is, Sinner was on more than was actually found, it's even the same for athletes who don't fail tests, they just aren't getting caught a lot of the time. There are ways to time cycles and counteract drugs.
In the famous words of Nate Diaz "Everybody's on steroids".
If Sinner is a serial drugs cheat then I would imagine a journalist would be investigating this case and we will hear in due course.
What exactly is your knowledge of doping based on other than hearsay? Do you work in the field?
Tennis is worse off without Sinner, they will never make an example of a special talent who uses drugs, not at least while they are competing anyway, too much financial loss.
Yes I've worked in a field related to drugs/peds, some of my close friends use PEDs as bodybuilders, and the rest I'll keep schtum 😂
I don't really mind for what it's worth, just of the belief that once you pop, your career is tarnished as it poses question marks over everything.0 -
Thanks Bolloxbolder! That was really doing my head in!0
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I was thinking more Alan Knill than Tony PulisBods64 said:Thanks Bolloxbolder! That was really doing my head in!0 -
Alcaraz comes across as really likeable, that's why I wanted him to win. Good to see that they both get on so well on and off court.soapboxsam said:Alcaraz is such a happy guy and with 5 slams by 22 he doesn't need to cry when he loses. Enough money already to last a lifetime and the rivalry with Sinner the winner this time, could be around for a while as Carlos is a joy to watch.
I only saw a few games as was at the Kent cricket but why did Annabel Croft ask Alcaraz if he would be back next year ? Did she think she was talking to Djokovic!
Also Andrew Castle again did a Coleman ball with after talking about Arthur Ash and his sad demise said Alcaraz was taken too early 🤦🏼♂️1 -
Jan Choinski won his second Challenger Event in three weeks this weekend.
Evans, Norrie and Harris in action at the Citi Open in Washington. Harris came through qualifying and faces Norrie.1 -
Boulter also in action today at the Citi Open. Raducanu plays tomorrow.0
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Sinner, Alcaraz, Draper and Djokovic have all pulled out of the Toronto Masters. Leaves Zverev and Fritz as the only competitors from inside the world’s top 6. Sponsors won’t be happy.1
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If a sport is 'dirty' then would that put off sponsors? If it's shown to be clean and bans druggies then that may attract more sponsors/finance?Braziliance said:
This isn't an allegation though. I am saying in the examples of these athletes saying they were accidentally doping, it's just extremely unlikely.hoof_it_up_to_benty said:
Anyone can make allegations but ultimately you have to prove them. I'm under no illusion that a lot of athletes are using drugs but there has to be proof.Braziliance said:
I know quite a bit about doping actually, more than the average person I would say.hoof_it_up_to_benty said:
Some doping offences are as a result of a mistake and no advantage was gained. Others are an obvious intention to cheat.PrincessFiona said:
Different offences though, not all the same level; not condoning it but some worse than othersSELR_addicks said:Drug cheat wins Wimbledon. Another day.
Will always be people willing to stick their heads in the sand whilst every major sport is infected by artificial athletes at the top level.
An honest conversation needs to be had. Either you're allowing it and take the consequences that comes with it, or you ban it and actually ban it rather than allowing these cheats to prosper.
I don't understand why people think they're all the same? Some of the arguments on here are utterly ludicrous.
I don't see any conclusive evidence that Sinner is a drugs cheat having read numerous articles on the matter. Maybe people on here know better?
I'll tell you now it is very hard to dope by 'mistake'. You don't just eat a banana and it's been jabbed with PEDs. Your coaches don't just accidentally give you drugs.
It's the same as when Canelo claimed the meat he ate was infected with clenbuterol, it is so much nonsense 😂
You are insanely rich as top athletes, you can afford the finest chefs and quality food, you managed to accidentally take drugs? I'm sorry but it is nonsense.
The likelihood is, Sinner was on more than was actually found, it's even the same for athletes who don't fail tests, they just aren't getting caught a lot of the time. There are ways to time cycles and counteract drugs.
In the famous words of Nate Diaz "Everybody's on steroids".
If Sinner is a serial drugs cheat then I would imagine a journalist would be investigating this case and we will hear in due course.
What exactly is your knowledge of doping based on other than hearsay? Do you work in the field?
Tennis is worse off without Sinner, they will never make an example of a special talent who uses drugs, not at least while they are competing anyway, too much financial loss.
Yes I've worked in a field related to drugs/peds, some of my close friends use PEDs as bodybuilders, and the rest I'll keep schtum 😂
I don't really mind for what it's worth, just of the belief that once you pop, your career is tarnished as it poses question marks over everything.0 -
Evans and Norrie won their opening matches at Washington.
Boulter out in straight sets.0 -
Evans, Norrie and Raducanu playing today. All facing seeded players.0
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Cracking victory for Norrie - knocks out No2 seed Musetti
Raducanu beats Kostyuk the no 7 seed in straight sets.4 -
Evans through to last 16 beating no 13 seed Michelsen.3
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Mad stat - Was reading the BBC’s report and said Norrie only had three winners in first set and two of them were aces !hoof_it_up_to_benty said:Cracking victory for Norrie - knocks out No2 seed Musetti
Raducanu beats Kostyuk the no 7 seed in straight sets.0 -
Norrie back inside the top 40 in the live rankings - was down to 91 earlier in the year.
Raducanu will overtake Boulter if she bears Osaka in the next round.2 -
Great to see Evans progressing in an event,hoof_it_up_to_benty said:Evans through to last 16 beating no 13 seed Michelsen.1 -
Raducanu goes above Osaka in the live rankings, Osaka is few places above her in the current (weekly) ones - I assume Osaka has more points to defend.hoof_it_up_to_benty said:Norrie back inside the top 40 in the live rankings - was down to 91 earlier in the year.
Raducanu will overtake Boulter if she bears Osaka in the next round.
Good to see Raducanu playing in the women's doubles too - highly likely her team believe she is capable of more game time and her back is not a problem - so that is some positive progress2
