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  • golfaddick
    golfaddick Posts: 33,863
    Yann897 said:
    Steven81 said:
    Sambcafc said:
    I’m honestly astounded at the level of negativity around our transfer business and the amount of moaning going on. Let’s remember where we have come from and how different it is now under this ownership who have already spent well over £2m this window. 

    It’s unbelievable how quick fans forget how bad it’s been before. We are now a well run club buying in experience and trying to sign youth. 

    We cannot get every target as we are now a little fish in a big pond. But lots seem to have forgotten this. 
    Agreed teams like Preston and Swansea are massive compared to us.
    No they’re not but they are established championship clubs we’ve got to build our way up again and signing experienced championship players is a good way to do that.
    4 players signed  

    2 with Championship experience.
    2 with league 1 experience.  
  • Crispy
    Crispy Posts: 589
    Yann897 said:
    Steven81 said:
    Sambcafc said:
    I’m honestly astounded at the level of negativity around our transfer business and the amount of moaning going on. Let’s remember where we have come from and how different it is now under this ownership who have already spent well over £2m this window. 

    It’s unbelievable how quick fans forget how bad it’s been before. We are now a well run club buying in experience and trying to sign youth. 

    We cannot get every target as we are now a little fish in a big pond. But lots seem to have forgotten this. 
    Agreed teams like Preston and Swansea are massive compared to us.
    No they’re not but they are established championship clubs we’ve got to build our way up again and signing experienced championship players is a good way to do that.
    4 players signed  

    2 with Championship experience.
    2 with league 1 experience.  
    Carey had a full season in the Championship with Blackpool so 2 with Premier League and Championship experience, 1 with Championship and 1 with League One
  • sam3110
    sam3110 Posts: 21,424
    Yann897 said:
    Steven81 said:
    Sambcafc said:
    I’m honestly astounded at the level of negativity around our transfer business and the amount of moaning going on. Let’s remember where we have come from and how different it is now under this ownership who have already spent well over £2m this window. 

    It’s unbelievable how quick fans forget how bad it’s been before. We are now a well run club buying in experience and trying to sign youth. 

    We cannot get every target as we are now a little fish in a big pond. But lots seem to have forgotten this. 
    Agreed teams like Preston and Swansea are massive compared to us.
    No they’re not but they are established championship clubs we’ve got to build our way up again and signing experienced championship players is a good way to do that.
    4 players signed  

    2 with Championship experience.
    2 with league 1 experience.  
    Actually Olaofe is the only one with no championship experience.

    Carey's played almost 50 games in it
  • crookester
    crookester Posts: 1,344
    Yann897 said:
    Steven81 said:
    Sambcafc said:
    I’m honestly astounded at the level of negativity around our transfer business and the amount of moaning going on. Let’s remember where we have come from and how different it is now under this ownership who have already spent well over £2m this window. 

    It’s unbelievable how quick fans forget how bad it’s been before. We are now a well run club buying in experience and trying to sign youth. 

    We cannot get every target as we are now a little fish in a big pond. But lots seem to have forgotten this. 
    Agreed teams like Preston and Swansea are massive compared to us.
    No they’re not but they are established championship clubs we’ve got to build our way up again and signing experienced championship players is a good way to do that.
    4 players signed  

    2 with Championship experience.
    2 with league 1 experience.  
    Carey has championship experience as well
  • Yann897 said:
    Bournesnr said:
    Steven81 said:
    Sambcafc said:
    I’m honestly astounded at the level of negativity around our transfer business and the amount of moaning going on. Let’s remember where we have come from and how different it is now under this ownership who have already spent well over £2m this window. 

    It’s unbelievable how quick fans forget how bad it’s been before. We are now a well run club buying in experience and trying to sign youth. 

    We cannot get every target as we are now a little fish in a big pond. But lots seem to have forgotten this. 
    Agreed teams like Preston and Swansea are massive compared to us.
    They are established championship sides who have built their squads over a number of years, prospective signings will look at us and think there’s a risk we may go straight back down.
    Do they think that way if it was Birmingham or Wrexham ? It’s purely about money. Pay enough and you’ll get the quality. 
    Both of those teams are much better than us already though, we are behind them in terms of quality massively. Not like a normal league one season, you had two teams far and away better than the rest with Birmingham being better than half the teams in the division above also. It’s not a fair comparison basing us against blues and Wrexham 
    Wrexham are not much better than us, once we clicked from January we got more point than them. 
    Might have been generalising but they are better than us by a fair bit. Our last game against them showed that. They have a big pull due to the hype around them. I think they will do well this season again. 
  • Yann897
    Yann897 Posts: 1,530
    Yann897 said:
    Bournesnr said:
    Steven81 said:
    Sambcafc said:
    I’m honestly astounded at the level of negativity around our transfer business and the amount of moaning going on. Let’s remember where we have come from and how different it is now under this ownership who have already spent well over £2m this window. 

    It’s unbelievable how quick fans forget how bad it’s been before. We are now a well run club buying in experience and trying to sign youth. 

    We cannot get every target as we are now a little fish in a big pond. But lots seem to have forgotten this. 
    Agreed teams like Preston and Swansea are massive compared to us.
    They are established championship sides who have built their squads over a number of years, prospective signings will look at us and think there’s a risk we may go straight back down.
    Do they think that way if it was Birmingham or Wrexham ? It’s purely about money. Pay enough and you’ll get the quality. 
    Both of those teams are much better than us already though, we are behind them in terms of quality massively. Not like a normal league one season, you had two teams far and away better than the rest with Birmingham being better than half the teams in the division above also. It’s not a fair comparison basing us against blues and Wrexham 
    Wrexham are not much better than us, once we clicked from January we got more point than them. 
    Might have been generalising but they are better than us by a fair bit. Our last game against them showed that. They have a big pull due to the hype around them. I think they will do well this season again. 
    Well it’s subjective and about opinions because I think our squad is probably better than theirs now as Dobson, Lee and the other ex players don’t get near ours . Plus you’re talking about a one off game , we beat Birmingham 1-0 but we’re not better than them.
  • Chris_from_Sidcup
    Chris_from_Sidcup Posts: 36,143
    Yann897 said:
    Bournesnr said:
    Steven81 said:
    Sambcafc said:
    I’m honestly astounded at the level of negativity around our transfer business and the amount of moaning going on. Let’s remember where we have come from and how different it is now under this ownership who have already spent well over £2m this window. 

    It’s unbelievable how quick fans forget how bad it’s been before. We are now a well run club buying in experience and trying to sign youth. 

    We cannot get every target as we are now a little fish in a big pond. But lots seem to have forgotten this. 
    Agreed teams like Preston and Swansea are massive compared to us.
    They are established championship sides who have built their squads over a number of years, prospective signings will look at us and think there’s a risk we may go straight back down.
    Do they think that way if it was Birmingham or Wrexham ? It’s purely about money. Pay enough and you’ll get the quality. 
    Both of those teams are much better than us already though, we are behind them in terms of quality massively. Not like a normal league one season, you had two teams far and away better than the rest with Birmingham being better than half the teams in the division above also. It’s not a fair comparison basing us against blues and Wrexham 
    Wrexham are not much better than us, once we clicked from January we got more point than them. 
    Might have been generalising but they are better than us by a fair bit. Our last game against them showed that. They have a big pull due to the hype around them. I think they will do well this season again. 
    A lot of hype for sure but they've only made 1 (admittedly very good) first team signing so far this summer.
  • Braziliance
    Braziliance Posts: 8,417
    edited July 7
    Sambcafc said:
    I’m honestly astounded at the level of negativity around our transfer business and the amount of moaning going on. Let’s remember where we have come from and how different it is now under this ownership who have already spent well over £2m this window. 

    It’s unbelievable how quick fans forget how bad it’s been before. We are now a well run club buying in experience and trying to sign youth. 

    We cannot get every target as we are now a little fish in a big pond. But lots seem to have forgotten this. 
    This is the most relaxed/positive Charlton life summer window thread I can remember reading. 
  • Braziliance
    Braziliance Posts: 8,417
    edited July 7
    thenewbie said:
    MarcusH26 said:
    Another CM in at Birmingham, surely a cheeky bid for Marc Leonard is worth it now? 
    It's quite frightening that Marc Leonard may not even get on Birmingham City's bench this season, but if he joined us he would probably be one of our best players if not the best.
    Absolutely agree (and we definitely should be making overtures to Leonard) but comparisons to Birmingham in terms of transfers etc are probably not helpful or even particularly useful.

    Outside of the teams with Premier league payments, no-one is going to realistically be anywhere near them in terms of spending etc nor should we realistically be trying to.

    Even Wrexham who have thrown lots of money at getting promotion to this level are well below Birmingham so far in spending etc.
    I wouldn't compare them to us or expect us to do what they're doing, they're in a much better position than us as a club financially and football wise etc.

    They are in the same league as us though, so I am more so just highlighting that that's some of our competition for next season, ridiculous expenditure, again.

    By the sounds of things Birmingham don't want to sell Leonard and only want to send him out on loan. 
  • Yann897 said:
    Yann897 said:
    Bournesnr said:
    Steven81 said:
    Sambcafc said:
    I’m honestly astounded at the level of negativity around our transfer business and the amount of moaning going on. Let’s remember where we have come from and how different it is now under this ownership who have already spent well over £2m this window. 

    It’s unbelievable how quick fans forget how bad it’s been before. We are now a well run club buying in experience and trying to sign youth. 

    We cannot get every target as we are now a little fish in a big pond. But lots seem to have forgotten this. 
    Agreed teams like Preston and Swansea are massive compared to us.
    They are established championship sides who have built their squads over a number of years, prospective signings will look at us and think there’s a risk we may go straight back down.
    Do they think that way if it was Birmingham or Wrexham ? It’s purely about money. Pay enough and you’ll get the quality. 
    Both of those teams are much better than us already though, we are behind them in terms of quality massively. Not like a normal league one season, you had two teams far and away better than the rest with Birmingham being better than half the teams in the division above also. It’s not a fair comparison basing us against blues and Wrexham 
    Wrexham are not much better than us, once we clicked from January we got more point than them. 
    Might have been generalising but they are better than us by a fair bit. Our last game against them showed that. They have a big pull due to the hype around them. I think they will do well this season again. 
    Well it’s subjective and about opinions because I think our squad is probably better than theirs now as Dobson, Lee and the other ex players don’t get near ours . Plus you’re talking about a one off game , we beat Birmingham 1-0 but we’re not better than them.
    We lost to them after we ‘clicked’ they were also better over the season. The ex players may not get in but plenty of their other players pull walk into our team, Smith, Rathbone, Cleworth, Hardie etc. nothing wrong in admitting they are a better team than us, it’s just the way it is 

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  • Garrymanilow
    Garrymanilow Posts: 13,277
    There's a lot of talk about which of our signings are the best and which aren't at the level we want but in the end you just don't know how these players are going to be until they're on the pitch. Our big marquee signings have typically been the disappointing ones in recent years.

    I wouldn't say Ahadme was a marquee signing but he was the most expensive and he didn't make the bench at Wembley. Terry Taylor was the exciting young player who we beat Championship teams to sign and Edun was the excellent L1 standout with Championship experience. McGrandles was a big get from a good side and Payne had been a big part of a team that got promoted to the Prem previously and had just scored 13 goals from midfield. Kirk, Fraser, Gilbey, Schwartz, Hemed, Stockley, Ajose, it's the big signings to tend to let us down and the unheralded ones who impress; Dobson, Gillesphey, Pratley, CBT, Ramsay, Small. We're just going to have to trust that Jones know what he needs and that we can get the right level of player that matches that
  • jondon76
    jondon76 Posts: 294
    Really think this Luton Town ex  player thing is getting a bit silly now,  why aren't we looking at Stoke and Southampton as well ?
  • MarcusH26
    MarcusH26 Posts: 8,147
    jondon76 said:
    Really think this Luton Town ex  player thing is getting a bit silly now,  why aren't we looking at Stoke and Southampton as well ?
    NJ wasn't at either long enough ;) and with Stokes squad and manager churn there's probably no one left he signed. 
  • Yann897
    Yann897 Posts: 1,530
    Yann897 said:
    Yann897 said:
    Bournesnr said:
    Steven81 said:
    Sambcafc said:
    I’m honestly astounded at the level of negativity around our transfer business and the amount of moaning going on. Let’s remember where we have come from and how different it is now under this ownership who have already spent well over £2m this window. 

    It’s unbelievable how quick fans forget how bad it’s been before. We are now a well run club buying in experience and trying to sign youth. 

    We cannot get every target as we are now a little fish in a big pond. But lots seem to have forgotten this. 
    Agreed teams like Preston and Swansea are massive compared to us.
    They are established championship sides who have built their squads over a number of years, prospective signings will look at us and think there’s a risk we may go straight back down.
    Do they think that way if it was Birmingham or Wrexham ? It’s purely about money. Pay enough and you’ll get the quality. 
    Both of those teams are much better than us already though, we are behind them in terms of quality massively. Not like a normal league one season, you had two teams far and away better than the rest with Birmingham being better than half the teams in the division above also. It’s not a fair comparison basing us against blues and Wrexham 
    Wrexham are not much better than us, once we clicked from January we got more point than them. 
    Might have been generalising but they are better than us by a fair bit. Our last game against them showed that. They have a big pull due to the hype around them. I think they will do well this season again. 
    Well it’s subjective and about opinions because I think our squad is probably better than theirs now as Dobson, Lee and the other ex players don’t get near ours . Plus you’re talking about a one off game , we beat Birmingham 1-0 but we’re not better than them.
    We lost to them after we ‘clicked’ they were also better over the season. The ex players may not get in but plenty of their other players pull walk into our team, Smith, Rathbone, Cleworth, Hardie etc. nothing wrong in admitting they are a better team than us, it’s just the way it is 
    Yeah we also had players missing that game and we just didn’t show up, I’d take that we’re a similar level but they’re not better than us. They’ve got the potential to have a really strong window with the funds they have but I’d take our squad over theirs right now.
  • Callumcafc
    Callumcafc Posts: 63,910
    edited July 7
    Bournesnr said:
    Steven81 said:
    Sambcafc said:
    I’m honestly astounded at the level of negativity around our transfer business and the amount of moaning going on. Let’s remember where we have come from and how different it is now under this ownership who have already spent well over £2m this window. 

    It’s unbelievable how quick fans forget how bad it’s been before. We are now a well run club buying in experience and trying to sign youth. 

    We cannot get every target as we are now a little fish in a big pond. But lots seem to have forgotten this. 
    Agreed teams like Preston and Swansea are massive compared to us.
    They are established championship sides who have built their squads over a number of years, prospective signings will look at us and think there’s a risk we may go straight back down.
    Do they think that way if it was Birmingham or Wrexham ? It’s purely about money. Pay enough and you’ll get the quality. 
    Wrexham are struggling in this market - only signed two players, only one for a fee.

    Neither us, nor them, are going to go out and do what Birmingham are doing.
  • CoveredEndAndy
    CoveredEndAndy Posts: 106
    jondon76 said:
    Really think this Luton Town ex  player thing is getting a bit silly now,  why aren't we looking at Stoke and Southampton as well ?

    Because their players did'nt buy into jones as a manager.
  • Pelling1993
    Pelling1993 Posts: 6,785
    Bournesnr said:
    Steven81 said:
    Sambcafc said:
    I’m honestly astounded at the level of negativity around our transfer business and the amount of moaning going on. Let’s remember where we have come from and how different it is now under this ownership who have already spent well over £2m this window. 

    It’s unbelievable how quick fans forget how bad it’s been before. We are now a well run club buying in experience and trying to sign youth. 

    We cannot get every target as we are now a little fish in a big pond. But lots seem to have forgotten this. 
    Agreed teams like Preston and Swansea are massive compared to us.
    They are established championship sides who have built their squads over a number of years, prospective signings will look at us and think there’s a risk we may go straight back down.
    Do they think that way if it was Birmingham or Wrexham ? It’s purely about money. Pay enough and you’ll get the quality. 
    Wrexham are struggling in this market - only signed two players, only one for a fee.
    Brum being an exception but it seems to be the teams with wedge do their business a bit later in the window. Can't see Ipswich & Saints not going big but they've been very quiet so far.
  • letthegoodtimesroll
    letthegoodtimesroll Posts: 10,696
    jondon76 said:
    Really think this Luton Town ex  player thing is getting a bit silly now,  why aren't we looking at Stoke and Southampton as well ?
    The Luton players probably had a lot more buy in to what Nathan was trying to achieve, which is most likely why he/it succeeded at Luton and didn’t succeed at Stoke and Southampton.

    i would also guess the Stoke and Southampton players are on wages a lot higher than the Luton players even if they did recently spend a season in the PL.

    bringing in a core group from one team can be a good thing. It worked for us when we raided Ipswich when they were relegated. Pretty sure I can recall Sheff Wed did very well when they seemed to be nicking our best players once upon a time.
  • _MrDick
    _MrDick Posts: 13,136
    If we’re going after all of Luton’s assets, what about Alfie Doughty! 
  • DDOUBLEE
    DDOUBLEE Posts: 1,538
    Steven81 said:
    Sambcafc said:
    I’m honestly astounded at the level of negativity around our transfer business and the amount of moaning going on. Let’s remember where we have come from and how different it is now under this ownership who have already spent well over £2m this window. 

    It’s unbelievable how quick fans forget how bad it’s been before. We are now a well run club buying in experience and trying to sign youth. 

    We cannot get every target as we are now a little fish in a big pond. But lots seem to have forgotten this. 
    Agreed teams like Preston and Swansea are massive compared to us.
    What a boring, ignorant comment 

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  • MarcusH26
    MarcusH26 Posts: 8,147
    _MrDick said:
    If we’re going after all of Luton’s assets, what about Alfie Doughty! 
    Looks like he's off to Boro to link back up with Rob Edwards. 
  • Leuth
    Leuth Posts: 23,406
    DDOUBLEE said:
    Steven81 said:
    Sambcafc said:
    I’m honestly astounded at the level of negativity around our transfer business and the amount of moaning going on. Let’s remember where we have come from and how different it is now under this ownership who have already spent well over £2m this window. 

    It’s unbelievable how quick fans forget how bad it’s been before. We are now a well run club buying in experience and trying to sign youth. 

    We cannot get every target as we are now a little fish in a big pond. But lots seem to have forgotten this. 
    Agreed teams like Preston and Swansea are massive compared to us.
    What a boring, ignorant comment 
    He was obviously being sarcastic, and people did have to point out that they are in fact established Championship sides 
  • charltonbob
    charltonbob Posts: 8,303
    We got Chappell and Dane in to get Luton players? How about some proper scouting for once ? 
    If we sign Burke that's 3 defenders that got relegated with Luton, I don't know much about any of them but anybody else slightly concerned ?  :#
  • MarcusH26
    MarcusH26 Posts: 8,147
    My only concern with Burke is the injury record , Will Abbott might be fantastic at his job but Luton fans saying we'll be lucky to get 15-20 games from him feels like massive gamble. Feels like the last thing we need is chopping and changing the backline around because someone is constantly breaking down. 
  • Rothko
    Rothko Posts: 18,830
    jondon76 said:
    Really think this Luton Town ex  player thing is getting a bit silly now,  why aren't we looking at Stoke and Southampton as well ?
    Cause they are in the Championship, and aren't flogging, letting go of people in league 1
  • TheHerminator
    TheHerminator Posts: 775
    Yann897 said:
    Steven81 said:
    Sambcafc said:
    I’m honestly astounded at the level of negativity around our transfer business and the amount of moaning going on. Let’s remember where we have come from and how different it is now under this ownership who have already spent well over £2m this window. 

    It’s unbelievable how quick fans forget how bad it’s been before. We are now a well run club buying in experience and trying to sign youth. 

    We cannot get every target as we are now a little fish in a big pond. But lots seem to have forgotten this. 
    Agreed teams like Preston and Swansea are massive compared to us.
    No they’re not but they are established championship clubs we’ve got to build our way up again and signing experienced championship players is a good way to do that.
    4 players signed  

    2 with Championship experience.
    2 with league 1 experience.  
    Not like you to get your facts wrong 
  • ShootersHillGuru
    ShootersHillGuru Posts: 50,669
    We got Chappell and Dane in to get Luton players? How about some proper scouting for once ? 
    If we sign Burke that's 3 defenders that got relegated with Luton, I don't know much about any of them but anybody else slightly concerned ?  :#
    Different manager. Team set up differently and different players in front of them. No. Not really.
  • killerandflash
    killerandflash Posts: 70,090
    Sambcafc said:
    I’m honestly astounded at the level of negativity around our transfer business and the amount of moaning going on. Let’s remember where we have come from and how different it is now under this ownership who have already spent well over £2m this window. 

    It’s unbelievable how quick fans forget how bad it’s been before. We are now a well run club buying in experience and trying to sign youth. 

    We cannot get every target as we are now a little fish in a big pond. But lots seem to have forgotten this. 
    I've not seen much negativity on here. There have been disagreements with some of the signings, but nothing unreasonable. It's perfectly reasonable to discuss or question each signing, otherwise what is the point of a discussion board?

    Not counting Hylton as he had a coaching role we well, NJ brought in 3 ex Luton players last summer. 1 was a total flop (Campbell), 1 was unfit (Potts) and the other a reasonable success (Berry), so it's not as if bringing in NJ's former players has always worked.
  • cafc_se7
    cafc_se7 Posts: 2,285
    MarcusH26 said:
    My only concern with Burke is the injury record , Will Abbott might be fantastic at his job but Luton fans saying we'll be lucky to get 15-20 games from him feels like massive gamble. Feels like the last thing we need is chopping and changing the backline around because someone is constantly breaking down. 
    To be fair though, Lloydy doesn’t seem to go long spells of games without breaking down. 
  • Chris_from_Sidcup
    Chris_from_Sidcup Posts: 36,143
    MarcusH26 said:
    My only concern with Burke is the injury record , Will Abbott might be fantastic at his job but Luton fans saying we'll be lucky to get 15-20 games from him feels like massive gamble. Feels like the last thing we need is chopping and changing the backline around because someone is constantly breaking down. 
    Bell's recent injury record isn't great either but we still signed him.