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Starinnaddick
Starinnaddick Posts: 4,345
edited July 1 in General Charlton
As a supporter I realise that the manager of a promoted team has to be ruthless and lack sentiment but what does it do to team spirit. For example do the other players accept Kaminski coming in to rival Mannion and AMB or does the arrival of new players upset the team spirit built up over time. It can't be easy to keep everyone happy and singing from the same hymn sheet. 

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  • bobmunro
    bobmunro Posts: 20,846
    If the new recruits prove successful on the pitch then that has far more effect on team spirit (positively).
    Managers have to make difficult decisions and players accept that in the main - especially if previously the manager has had their full support. These are professional footballers who know the score.
  • Brownie12
    Brownie12 Posts: 1,525
    edited July 1
    Depends what you want from the season I guess. Loyalty would get us relegated. 
    Players come and go but as a supporter you are stuck with it.  I like Mannion but I wouldn’t like to be going in to a championship season with him as Number 1. 
    If a player isn’t happy, generally he moves on. Don’t think it upsets team spirit or moral. They soon move on.


  • Bedsaddick
    Bedsaddick Posts: 24,741
    You have to be ruthless if you want to progress . No time for sentiment. 
    AMB isn’t good enough in my opinion and will probably go out on loan and Mannion will push Thomas all the way as number one . 
  • Henry Irving
    Henry Irving Posts: 85,225
    edited July 1
    On the other hand not adding to the squad leaves it stale and may make existing players feel there is no ambition.

    That's why good team management is more than matchday tactics or fitness 
  • thenewbie
    thenewbie Posts: 11,001
    Honestly you'd expect professional football players to know that this is what happens. It's not always easy or pleasant but ultimately that's just the way the game goes.
  • Starinnaddick
    Starinnaddick Posts: 4,345
    It must be demoralising when chasing promotion to realise that your services may be dispensed with if you are successful. 
  • Dazzler21
    Dazzler21 Posts: 51,344
    Starinnaddick said:
    As a supporter I realise that the manager of a promoted team has to be ruthless and lack sentiment but what does it do to team spirit. For example do the other players accept Kaminski coming in to rival Mannion and AMD or does the arrival of new players upset the team spirit built up over time. It can't be easy to keep everyone happy and singing from the same hymn sheet. 
    I think AMD are busy competing with Nvidia... 

    With regards to AMB he's not as good as Mannion so now we have two decent keepers competing for that GK spot. AMB Should probably look to move to a L1 side on loan as a minimum. 

    It's also a given in football that you could lose out to your own success as @thenewbie says. 

  • mendonca
    mendonca Posts: 9,405
    This model was proven to fail by Duchâtelet in our previous Championship season, despite being instigated by a different reason. 
  • Scoham
    Scoham Posts: 37,376
    For me summer we should look to improve, which means replacing those who have left such as Small, but also improving on some our weaker regular starters with them becoming squad players.
  • ShootersHillGuru
    ShootersHillGuru Posts: 50,622
    If the ambition is there to do better season on season then it’s inevitable that players better than what you have will be needed. 
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  • killerandflash
    killerandflash Posts: 69,851
    I always find it quite amusing when people want us to strengthen our team after promotion,  but not at the expense of the existing players, when that's exactly how football works. 
  • YoungFishCosta4tune
    YoungFishCosta4tune Posts: 124
    If you've ever had a kickabout with mates (5-a-side, Sunday league etc.) you can love them dearly but recognise their shortcomings on the pitch.
    Amplify that by a gazillion when it comes to professional footballers hoping their team will improve it's prospects season on season.
    For the player who's position is under threat, they either take on the challenge or seek pastures new.
    Goalkeepers are a unique breed and seem to display a union mentality of togetherness & friendly rivalry.
    Highly doubt that Mannion will have been blindsided by this and hopefully he relishes the prospect of raising the bar (pun intended).
  • Callumcafc
    Callumcafc Posts: 63,766
    “We come out of every window categorically stronger than when we entered it”
  • Garrymanilow
    Garrymanilow Posts: 13,171
    It's a balancing act. The best players want to play with the best players so the likes of TC, Coventry, Lloyd Jones etc will expect there to be improvements around them or they will be frustrated at a lack of progress. Top players also expect to keep their place and relish a bit of competition so bringing in someone to challenge them for their place can bring out even more from them. You want your core players to remain in some capacity so the new players settle quickly into the style and you don't have 11 strangers trying to learn the system all at once - think about how long it took our team to figure out what Jones wanted them to do - and you want new players to buy into the culture that's already there rather than a new one form as a result of too much change. I think Jones will strike the right balance with it as the culture is so important to him but we'll definitely see our players fighting for their spot and some moving on when the opportunities dry up
  • blackpool72
    blackpool72 Posts: 23,679
    I just hope if we sign another striker that it doesn't upset Ahadme. 

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