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Nathan Jones speculation - Cawley says indications are no chance Jones going to Cardiff (p20)
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Wonder away.UEAAddick said:
Never say 'we' or 'us' always say 'Charlton' or 'the Club'. Wonder why.Woodwork said:
I said Charlton have spent the majority of it playing League One football. Sorry, I should have been clearer. I meant that the division Charlton have spent the most time playing in, out of the four divisions (in the 21st century), is League One.Airman Brown said:
In the 25 years since the millennium, Charlton have spent seven years in the PL, seven in the Championship, 11 in League One. So not a majority of the 21 century at all.Woodwork said:
Having spent a lot of time at both The Valley and The Den, I actually think Millwall fans are more patient. They are certainly less entitled. I think that is what upset Jones. Charlton have spent the majority of the 21st Century playing League One football, & finished in its lowest position since having to apply for reelection in 1926. Yet despite not being out of touch of the play-offs, fans turned on him. Despite him having to rebuild squad & the whole club after a decade or more of neglect.DOUCHER said:
on that basis, no wonder he turned millwall down then and went to us despite being in a division lower - won't be surprised if he takes an assistants role at footscray lions girls under 9'sWoodwork said:
Playing devil’s advocate… Jones wasn’t happy with how quickly a significant amount of fans turned on him, before even half the season was out. In fact, he seemed fuming. So he may think that if things start to look sticky again, he’ll be turned on again.Northern_Monkey said:I’d be surprised if he went. The lure of Mansfield, Lincoln and the like vs the games in Championship doesn’t seem compelling, even as a fan. He has said the board are supportive, the fans are behind him, so why do that when he could always consider at a different time when further along with us?
If he does go that would probably sound alarm bells with the backing being given.I think the difference is, when Millwall fans turn on you, they really turn on you. And they also tend to turn on the players more often than the manager. I think that is because they think players should give their all, no matter who the manager is or how bad he is.@Henry Irving is this okay with you, sir? As I replied to a direct post. Doff my cap etc etcI can’t be bothered to work out average league position for Charlton and Millwall but my guess is that over your chosen time frame there’s not much in it.So from Jones’ pov, it probably did seem a bit extreme how quickly fans turned on him. Especially if you look at how Charlton have performed since 2009 (that’s 16 years!!). He came in after the club had finished in its lowest position since 1926. And with the club having a reputation for being a bit of a long running basket-case club to outsiders. To get absolute pelters in the middle of the huge task of turning the club around must have seemed crazy to him.Thing is, I haven't posted a single trolling or wind up post. Not one. When I used to lurk on here, I thought it was a bit bonkers, but in a good way. But my god, there are more serious & pompous middle-aged men in here than in a London to Brighton cycle race. Poor old Brazilliance is having a breakdown because of some of you & I’d argue that the man-boy DOUCHER is more of a bloody troll & WUM than anyone on this site. By far.Look, it is a great forum. I like AFKA, so out of respect I am not gonna reply to personal messages anymore. And if he thinks I am trolling, then I will shut up & leave. But I genuinely do not think I am. Just chatted stats, history titbits & given an honest opinion.11 -
The way I see it…..
Cardiff promised their fans a new manager and wanted a high profile manager such as Buckingham or the old Bolton manager but neither want to work for tan.
Cardiff have made up the jones rumour through a local journalist. They will appoint their youth coach or an unknown and say “we tried to get jones but Charlton wouldn’t let him join”.14 -
And as by magic, sky sports news are reporting that Cardiff have said that jones is an unrealistic target and are looking at other options such as Aaron Ramsey and Barry-Murphy8
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Sky now reporting that Cardiff are no longer pursuing Nathan Jones.21
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Todds_right_hook said:The way I see it…..
Cardiff promised their fans a new manager and wanted a high profile manager such as Buckingham or the old Bolton manager but neither want to work for tan.
Cardiff have made up the jones rumour through a local journalist. They will appoint their youth coach or an unknown and say “we tried to get jones but Charlton wouldn’t let him join”.
As I have said I believe Des Buckingham will take the job if offered as he is out of work and may not get offered a higher job in the football pyramid.
A promotion on his CV is good from League 1 with Oxford through the play offs and unlucky with getting the sack when it was always going to be a struggle over the 46 match Championship with the higher quality than the mediocre League 1; Charlton's turn to find out the difference in the two divisions soon.
The privilege few can sit and wait but not sure DB is in that position.
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Mate, just stop posting incessantly about you know who, that is all.Woodwork said:
Wonder away.UEAAddick said:
Never say 'we' or 'us' always say 'Charlton' or 'the Club'. Wonder why.Woodwork said:
I said Charlton have spent the majority of it playing League One football. Sorry, I should have been clearer. I meant that the division Charlton have spent the most time playing in, out of the four divisions (in the 21st century), is League One.Airman Brown said:
In the 25 years since the millennium, Charlton have spent seven years in the PL, seven in the Championship, 11 in League One. So not a majority of the 21 century at all.Woodwork said:
Having spent a lot of time at both The Valley and The Den, I actually think Millwall fans are more patient. They are certainly less entitled. I think that is what upset Jones. Charlton have spent the majority of the 21st Century playing League One football, & finished in its lowest position since having to apply for reelection in 1926. Yet despite not being out of touch of the play-offs, fans turned on him. Despite him having to rebuild squad & the whole club after a decade or more of neglect.DOUCHER said:
on that basis, no wonder he turned millwall down then and went to us despite being in a division lower - won't be surprised if he takes an assistants role at footscray lions girls under 9'sWoodwork said:
Playing devil’s advocate… Jones wasn’t happy with how quickly a significant amount of fans turned on him, before even half the season was out. In fact, he seemed fuming. So he may think that if things start to look sticky again, he’ll be turned on again.Northern_Monkey said:I’d be surprised if he went. The lure of Mansfield, Lincoln and the like vs the games in Championship doesn’t seem compelling, even as a fan. He has said the board are supportive, the fans are behind him, so why do that when he could always consider at a different time when further along with us?
If he does go that would probably sound alarm bells with the backing being given.I think the difference is, when Millwall fans turn on you, they really turn on you. And they also tend to turn on the players more often than the manager. I think that is because they think players should give their all, no matter who the manager is or how bad he is.@Henry Irving is this okay with you, sir? As I replied to a direct post. Doff my cap etc etcI can’t be bothered to work out average league position for Charlton and Millwall but my guess is that over your chosen time frame there’s not much in it.So from Jones’ pov, it probably did seem a bit extreme how quickly fans turned on him. Especially if you look at how Charlton have performed since 2009 (that’s 16 years!!). He came in after the club had finished in its lowest position since 1926. And with the club having a reputation for being a bit of a long running basket-case club to outsiders. To get absolute pelters in the middle of the huge task of turning the club around must have seemed crazy to him.Thing is, I haven't posted a single trolling or wind up post. Not one. When I used to lurk on here, I thought it was a bit bonkers, but in a good way. But my god, there are more serious & pompous middle-aged men in here than in a London to Brighton cycle race. Poor old Brazilliance is having a breakdown because of some of you & I’d argue that the man-boy DOUCHER is more of a bloody troll & WUM than anyone on this site. By far.Look, it is a great forum. I like AFKA, so out of respect I am not gonna reply to personal messages anymore. And if he thinks I am trolling, then I will shut up & leave. But I genuinely do not think I am. Just chatted stats, history titbits & given an honest opinion.9 -
To be fair, whilst I don’t agree with it, that’s an excellent turn of phrase.Woodwork said:
Wonder away.UEAAddick said:
Never say 'we' or 'us' always say 'Charlton' or 'the Club'. Wonder why.Woodwork said:
I said Charlton have spent the majority of it playing League One football. Sorry, I should have been clearer. I meant that the division Charlton have spent the most time playing in, out of the four divisions (in the 21st century), is League One.Airman Brown said:
In the 25 years since the millennium, Charlton have spent seven years in the PL, seven in the Championship, 11 in League One. So not a majority of the 21 century at all.Woodwork said:
Having spent a lot of time at both The Valley and The Den, I actually think Millwall fans are more patient. They are certainly less entitled. I think that is what upset Jones. Charlton have spent the majority of the 21st Century playing League One football, & finished in its lowest position since having to apply for reelection in 1926. Yet despite not being out of touch of the play-offs, fans turned on him. Despite him having to rebuild squad & the whole club after a decade or more of neglect.DOUCHER said:
on that basis, no wonder he turned millwall down then and went to us despite being in a division lower - won't be surprised if he takes an assistants role at footscray lions girls under 9'sWoodwork said:
Playing devil’s advocate… Jones wasn’t happy with how quickly a significant amount of fans turned on him, before even half the season was out. In fact, he seemed fuming. So he may think that if things start to look sticky again, he’ll be turned on again.Northern_Monkey said:I’d be surprised if he went. The lure of Mansfield, Lincoln and the like vs the games in Championship doesn’t seem compelling, even as a fan. He has said the board are supportive, the fans are behind him, so why do that when he could always consider at a different time when further along with us?
If he does go that would probably sound alarm bells with the backing being given.I think the difference is, when Millwall fans turn on you, they really turn on you. And they also tend to turn on the players more often than the manager. I think that is because they think players should give their all, no matter who the manager is or how bad he is.@Henry Irving is this okay with you, sir? As I replied to a direct post. Doff my cap etc etcI can’t be bothered to work out average league position for Charlton and Millwall but my guess is that over your chosen time frame there’s not much in it.So from Jones’ pov, it probably did seem a bit extreme how quickly fans turned on him. Especially if you look at how Charlton have performed since 2009 (that’s 16 years!!). He came in after the club had finished in its lowest position since 1926. And with the club having a reputation for being a bit of a long running basket-case club to outsiders. To get absolute pelters in the middle of the huge task of turning the club around must have seemed crazy to him.Thing is, I haven't posted a single trolling or wind up post. Not one. When I used to lurk on here, I thought it was a bit bonkers, but in a good way. But my god, there are more serious & pompous middle-aged men in here than in a London to Brighton cycle race. Poor old Brazilliance is having a breakdown because of some of you & I’d argue that the man-boy DOUCHER is more of a bloody troll & WUM than anyone on this site. By far.6 -
Sky saw the Cawley tweet and then announced it.philcafc said:Sky now reporting that Cardiff are no longer pursuing Nathan Jones.
Proof that Cawley knows more than Sky.18 -
I agree, really quite splendid Uboat old chap.Uboat said:
To be fair, whilst I don’t agree with it, that’s an excellent turn of phrase.Woodwork said:
Wonder away.UEAAddick said:
Never say 'we' or 'us' always say 'Charlton' or 'the Club'. Wonder why.Woodwork said:
I said Charlton have spent the majority of it playing League One football. Sorry, I should have been clearer. I meant that the division Charlton have spent the most time playing in, out of the four divisions (in the 21st century), is League One.Airman Brown said:
In the 25 years since the millennium, Charlton have spent seven years in the PL, seven in the Championship, 11 in League One. So not a majority of the 21 century at all.Woodwork said:
Having spent a lot of time at both The Valley and The Den, I actually think Millwall fans are more patient. They are certainly less entitled. I think that is what upset Jones. Charlton have spent the majority of the 21st Century playing League One football, & finished in its lowest position since having to apply for reelection in 1926. Yet despite not being out of touch of the play-offs, fans turned on him. Despite him having to rebuild squad & the whole club after a decade or more of neglect.DOUCHER said:
on that basis, no wonder he turned millwall down then and went to us despite being in a division lower - won't be surprised if he takes an assistants role at footscray lions girls under 9'sWoodwork said:
Playing devil’s advocate… Jones wasn’t happy with how quickly a significant amount of fans turned on him, before even half the season was out. In fact, he seemed fuming. So he may think that if things start to look sticky again, he’ll be turned on again.Northern_Monkey said:I’d be surprised if he went. The lure of Mansfield, Lincoln and the like vs the games in Championship doesn’t seem compelling, even as a fan. He has said the board are supportive, the fans are behind him, so why do that when he could always consider at a different time when further along with us?
If he does go that would probably sound alarm bells with the backing being given.I think the difference is, when Millwall fans turn on you, they really turn on you. And they also tend to turn on the players more often than the manager. I think that is because they think players should give their all, no matter who the manager is or how bad he is.@Henry Irving is this okay with you, sir? As I replied to a direct post. Doff my cap etc etcI can’t be bothered to work out average league position for Charlton and Millwall but my guess is that over your chosen time frame there’s not much in it.So from Jones’ pov, it probably did seem a bit extreme how quickly fans turned on him. Especially if you look at how Charlton have performed since 2009 (that’s 16 years!!). He came in after the club had finished in its lowest position since 1926. And with the club having a reputation for being a bit of a long running basket-case club to outsiders. To get absolute pelters in the middle of the huge task of turning the club around must have seemed crazy to him.Thing is, I haven't posted a single trolling or wind up post. Not one. When I used to lurk on here, I thought it was a bit bonkers, but in a good way. But my god, there are more serious & pompous middle-aged men in here than in a London to Brighton cycle race. Poor old Brazilliance is having a breakdown because of some of you & I’d argue that the man-boy DOUCHER is more of a bloody troll & WUM than anyone on this site. By far.0 -
In my bedroom covered in baby oil as normal.Elthamaddick said:
where's Rachel Riley when you need herMendonca In Asdas said:Bring back the countdown to promotion thread!7 - Sponsored links:
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They never were …blackpool72 said:
Sky saw the Cawley tweet and then announced it.philcafc said:Sky now reporting that Cardiff are no longer pursuing Nathan Jones.
Proof that Cawley knows more than Sky.1 -
And then yes butRonnieMoore said:
They never were …blackpool72 said:
Sky saw the Cawley tweet and then announced it.philcafc said:Sky now reporting that Cardiff are no longer pursuing Nathan Jones.
Proof that Cawley knows more than Sky.2 -
It's that time of year when a certain type of journalist just makes anything up to fill space. Others then seize on it, social media magnifies it, a story does the round for 24-48 hours before it turns out to be complete tripe by which time more bullshit stories have taken its place. Trust good well-connected local journalism (ie Richard) and ignore the rest.blackpool72 said:
Sky saw the Cawley tweet and then announced it.philcafc said:Sky now reporting that Cardiff are no longer pursuing Nathan Jones.
Proof that Cawley knows more than Sky.2 -
I'm not saying he would have left, but thankfully Cardiff kept their potential pursuit of Jones to themselves before the playoff final!
Had we lost to orient, the chances of him leaving would significantly increase.
So much was riding on that 101 minutes of football at wembley.
I'm so very grateful and relieved we won that game!7 -
Spot on.Todds_right_hook said:The way I see it…..
Cardiff promised their fans a new manager and wanted a high profile manager such as Buckingham or the old Bolton manager but neither want to work for tan.
Cardiff have made up the jones rumour through a local journalist. They will appoint their youth coach or an unknown and say “we tried to get jones but Charlton wouldn’t let him join”.
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Good news but realistically it was a non-starter anyway.philcafc said:Sky now reporting that Cardiff are no longer pursuing Nathan Jones.
Jones is in the perfect place for redemption and he will be backed enough to show his worth.
Let's focus on the season now and not wet ourselves over a few twitter murmurs in the future.
Come on you Reds!4 -
Tell some of your previous panicked posts that! 😜Braziliance said:
Good news but realistically it was a non-starter anyway.philcafc said:Sky now reporting that Cardiff are no longer pursuing Nathan Jones.
Jones is in the perfect place for redemption and he will be backed enough to show his worth.
Let's focus on the season now and not wet ourselves over a few twitter murmurs in the future.
Come on you Reds!38 -
Tenner to Demelza says you do.Braziliance said:
Good news but realistically it was a non-starter anyway.philcafc said:Sky now reporting that Cardiff are no longer pursuing Nathan Jones.
Jones is in the perfect place for redemption and he will be backed enough to show his worth.
Let's focus on the season now and not wet ourselves over a few twitter murmurs in the future.
Come on you Reds!11 -
No chance, he won't leave us.2
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Then you wake up...😉TellyTubby said:
In my bedroom covered in baby oil as normal.Elthamaddick said:
where's Rachel Riley when you need herMendonca In Asdas said:Bring back the countdown to promotion thread!0 - Sponsored links:
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So called previous panicked postsThe Red Robin said:
Tell some of your previous panicked posts that! 😜Braziliance said:
Good news but realistically it was a non-starter anyway.philcafc said:Sky now reporting that Cardiff are no longer pursuing Nathan Jones.
Jones is in the perfect place for redemption and he will be backed enough to show his worth.
Let's focus on the season now and not wet ourselves over a few twitter murmurs in the future.
Come on you Reds!7 -
YOU SHALL NOT LEAVEKiwiValley said:Richard Cawley repels Charlton Life Jones-to-Cardiff hysteria
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Nathan saw the light and there was no going back, never was.
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It’s all done with ectoplasm.Garrymanilow said:
We'll need to employ someone to punch the players in the face on his behalf as well thenthenewbie said:Well I heard that he's definitely gone and the replacement at Charlton will be none other than Brian Clough, giving his instructions and team talks via a Ouija Board. Nailed on.
This IS the "absolute nonsense" thread right?!0 -
Lumping monkeys? There’s a man here from the RSPCA wants a word.scabbyhorse said:I’ve just lumped a monkey on Jones to Cardiff at 6/1. Kerching!
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The monkey was off Nathan's back after we achieved Promotion back to the Championship.
Heard on a podcast,* Ashley Williams criticism of NJ when he was at Stoke and the players were unsure how he wanted them to play.
Williams said Nathan kept going on about his success at Luton but he had come from Swansea so was used to the passing game from the back where Ryan Shawcross was used to playing a long ball.
Williams felt NJ was very insecure at that time and they were confused how he wanted them to play.
* Before Cafc '25' form and surge to the Championship.
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Charllon? I think this might be AIRaith_C_Chattonell said:Nathan saw the light and there was no going back, never was.5 -
There's a vacancy at Bristol City now, Nathan Jones was saving himself for that job
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Nathan Jones almost played for Bristol City as a youth but picked Cardiff instead, might be some unfinished business there from when he was a teenager.
Make of that what you will.8
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