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  • Do we still get the Joe Gomez sell in to cash in on? 😀😂

    In terms of the squad I’m sure you’ll get it bang on. 

    Off the top of my head I’d be giving upgrades to the players below compared to their ability in last years. 

    Mannion
    Ramsay
    L Jones
    A Mitchell
    Edwards
    Small
    TC

  • Callumcafc
    Callumcafc Posts: 63,749
    FM25 cancelled.



  • How annoying, I've been putting off starting a new save for the last few months thinking there's not much point. 
  • Big shame, by the time 26 comes out we will be in the prem anyway 😂
  • king addick
    king addick Posts: 3,698
    Piss poor this. Seems like they have overshot and paid the price.

    The game is good so just tweak it, didnt need a massive overhaul!
  • fenaddick
    fenaddick Posts: 10,968
    Think we all knew that was coming. They should’ve cancelled it at the 2nd delay and put all efforts into making FM26.
  • fenaddick
    fenaddick Posts: 10,968
    Also, crazy and cowardly decision to do that at 2:34am
  • fenaddick said:
    Also, crazy and cowardly decision to do that at 2:34am
    Looks like it was the earliest time they could announce it. Stakeholder obligations and stuff
  • Makes a change... Most games just get released buggy as shit these days, with the usual complaints that the Developer should have held off releasing until it was fixed - Just looks like SI have done exactly that?
  • cafctom
    cafctom Posts: 11,361
    It’s a real shame. Hopefully this doesn’t have long term implications for the studio. Sega, who own SI, obviously won’t be happy about what’s happened.
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  • JustFloydRoad
    JustFloydRoad Posts: 1,607
    edited February 7
    cafctom said:
    It’s a real shame. Hopefully this doesn’t have long term implications for the studio. Sega, who own SI, obviously won’t be happy about what’s happened.

    Saw an youtube video about this. Apparently they are contracted to make at least one game this year (hopefully they can put a patch onto FM24 to make up for it.

    In the most recent one  the youtuber goes into the reasons why this might of happened.


  • Garrymanilow
    Garrymanilow Posts: 13,158
    The real problem they've got now is they've actually got to make FM26 good. If they'd been able to get it together then FM25 could have been a bit of a free hit; it would have sold no matter what because of the name and with that they could have used the reactions of the very involved community to essentially beta test it and take the prevailing feedback from it. They could have answered a lot of the criticism by blaming the huge transition and promising improvement now that they had the code down and another year to take a good run at it. Any goodwill lost with a weak game could have been clawed back with a better follow-up and offset against strong sales based on the IP. 

    They've lost all that now. There's no goodwill, there's no buffer for an experimental step into a new engine and there's no second year to start to make back the money they've lost this year. Given SI's track record over the past 4 or 5 editions where they've just spun their wheels and ignored the increasing amounts of criticism that have come through about repeated stale aspects of the game I'm not sure they have it in their locker. 

    They've become obsessed with the match engine when I honestly don't think there's that many people watching 90 minute games and feeling like the game doesn't go through the thirds quite enough like the real thing. For the past couple of seasons I've been using a skin that has an instant result button because I'm far more interested in building a tactic and a team than I am watching tiny little man drawings visually confirm the goal I know I just conceded. I want the actual management simulation to be better; no more terrible press conferences with the same responses as they had in 2009, no more player interactions based on Miles Jacobson's inability to communicate with other humans ('you've trained well this week' 'This is an outrage, I can't recover from this insult and I'm going to see out my contract'), no more broken AI squad building, ridiculous focus on physical attributes over anything else and newgen faces that are somehow actually getting worse each year. I'm sure though that they will spend this additional time almost exclusively tinkering with the match engine making the game run as slowly as possible on weaker computers when the ability to play at a decent speed on a normal people laptop is one of the game's main draws, and not paying any attention to the stuff that actually takes up most of the entertaining management simulation aspect. SI won't die because they've completely cornered the market on this area and Sega won't let that go but the pressure on FM26 to be good is huge without any evidence that the people making it can actually pull it off.
  • CAFCDAZ
    CAFCDAZ Posts: 1,198
    FM25 cancelled.



    should have cancelled it in November when they pushed it back, worked doubled hard on FM26 and just added the releases to that. Would have been better for them to send players a major patch for the current season.
  • Braziliance
    Braziliance Posts: 8,342
    Those games come out too often anyway. Should just be a data base update every 2 or 3 years, then a new game, same goes for fifa and most of these sports games. 
  • Chunes
    Chunes Posts: 17,344
    I remember when Pro Evo announced they were skipping a year. I assumed the next game would be excellent with time for an engine rebuild. But it turned out to be the worst Pro Evo of all time. Let's hope this doesn't go the same way.
  • ForeverAddickted
    ForeverAddickted Posts: 94,288
    edited February 7
    To be fair just download the latest update for Championship Manager 01/02

    Still the greatest version they've ever released, its now free to download, and people are still modding it now to keep it up to date
  • JustFloydRoad
    JustFloydRoad Posts: 1,607
    To be fair just download the latest update for Championship Manager 01/02

    Still the greatest version they've ever released, its now free to download, and people are still modding it now to keep it up to date
    Got a link?
  • cafctom
    cafctom Posts: 11,361
    Those games come out too often anyway. Should just be a data base update every 2 or 3 years, then a new game, same goes for fifa and most of these sports games. 
    Like most things, its driven by revenue. And the brand name of "FIFA/EA FC" or Football Manager is enough for it to sell every single year with marginal differences in the actual product. 

    Sports Interactive absolutely have to deliver with FM26. They are a single game studio, and are owned by Sega. As a public company I expect they won't tolerate any further mess-ups. 
  • ForeverAddickted
    ForeverAddickted Posts: 94,288
    edited February 11
    To be fair just download the latest update for Championship Manager 01/02

    Still the greatest version they've ever released, its now free to download, and people are still modding it now to keep it up to date
    Got a link?
    Downloads - Championship Manager 2001/2002 Forums

    You'll need to sign up to the Forum, but Game can be downloaded from the "Game" Folder, and then the latest season from "Patches"
  • Scoham
    Scoham Posts: 37,364
    So, what we thinking...

    FM26
    Macaulay Gillesphey
    Free Kicks: 20

    Completely fair, right?
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  • North Lower Neil
    North Lower Neil Posts: 22,942
    To be fair just download the latest update for Championship Manager 01/02

    Still the greatest version they've ever released, its now free to download, and people are still modding it now to keep it up to date
    This is what I do - love it.

    I've not got time any more for hours and hours of training schedules and press stuff etc, and you can get a season done in a couple of sessions of playing.

    The updates with current players are great, makes it feel fresh again and also you don't know the cheap Swedish 19 year old wingers or Mike Duff etc off by heart!
  • ForeverAddickted
    ForeverAddickted Posts: 94,288
    To be fair just download the latest update for Championship Manager 01/02

    Still the greatest version they've ever released, its now free to download, and people are still modding it now to keep it up to date
    This is what I do - love it.

    I've not got time any more for hours and hours of training schedules and press stuff etc, and you can get a season done in a couple of sessions of playing.

    The updates with current players are great, makes it feel fresh again and also you don't know the cheap Swedish 19 year old wingers or Mike Duff etc off by heart!
    If you want to speed up the matches even more, use the tool below (Your browser might ask if you really want to keep it, as it might be harmful, but its just an .cfg file which you need to save / overwrite the original in your "Data" folder.

    I tend to set the Speed to "50" and then Download the file, makes subs a bit harder etc., but as a result you can usually get a single season completed within an hour or two as the matches themselves are a lot faster.

    CM0102 Resources - Championship Manager Downloads, Tips, Cheats
  • fenaddick
    fenaddick Posts: 10,968
    Was concerned there would be no game but there was a lot of advertising for it yesterday so feeling more positive 
  • Scoham
    Scoham Posts: 37,364
    fenaddick said:
    Was concerned there would be no game but there was a lot of advertising for it yesterday so feeling more positive 
    I've been updating the squad, staff, club etc for FM26 during the last month, so all good as far as I can tell.
  • sam3110
    sam3110 Posts: 21,238
    Scoham said:
    fenaddick said:
    Was concerned there would be no game but there was a lot of advertising for it yesterday so feeling more positive 
    I've been updating the squad, staff, club etc for FM26 during the last month, so all good as far as I can tell.
    Is there a rating on the managers for Lunacy? 
  • addicktedjim
    addicktedjim Posts: 69
    Has anyone tried updating FM24 with the latest updates and patches on FM Scout etc. Saw a YouTube video with a guide showing how to update FM24 with transfers, results and the date, so that you can effectively play "FM26". 

    I don't own FM24 so keen to see if anyone, particularly any mac users, have tried this. Trying to figure out if this can be done whilst playing via Steam...
  • addicktedjim
    addicktedjim Posts: 69
    Here's the update tutorial for context

    https://youtu.be/SZHYu1TsNxs?si=LPBr6iRCs-niwx0g
  • Garrymanilow
    Garrymanilow Posts: 13,158
    Scoham said:
    So, what we thinking...

    FM26
    Macaulay Gillesphey
    Free Kicks: 20

    Completely fair, right?
    I wonder if there are any other players who have a better percentage rate of scored free kicks that absolutely should not have gone in?
  • cafctom
    cafctom Posts: 11,361
    Has anyone tried updating FM24 with the latest updates and patches on FM Scout etc. Saw a YouTube video with a guide showing how to update FM24 with transfers, results and the date, so that you can effectively play "FM26". 

    I don't own FM24 so keen to see if anyone, particularly any mac users, have tried this. Trying to figure out if this can be done whilst playing via Steam...
    Yes I’ve tried a couple of different versions of this.

    It works so that you can effectively play FM with this seasons squads, leagues etc but it isn’t perfect. The updates don’t include the data for the things that happened during the missing period. 

    A Charlton related example - Alfie May’s profile indicates that he never played for Charlton (because he came and went within that period).

    The game still starts in 2023, so a player like Myles Lewis-Skelley is still 16 years old and Euro 2024 hasn’t even happened.

    Not the end of the world, but I personally find it quite glaring when things like that aren’t covered - especially in a game where accuracy and detail is so central to the experience.


  • addicktedjim
    addicktedjim Posts: 69
    cafctom said:
    Has anyone tried updating FM24 with the latest updates and patches on FM Scout etc. Saw a YouTube video with a guide showing how to update FM24 with transfers, results and the date, so that you can effectively play "FM26". 

    I don't own FM24 so keen to see if anyone, particularly any mac users, have tried this. Trying to figure out if this can be done whilst playing via Steam...
    Yes I’ve tried a couple of different versions of this.

    It works so that you can effectively play FM with this seasons squads, leagues etc but it isn’t perfect. The updates don’t include the data for the things that happened during the missing period. 

    A Charlton related example - Alfie May’s profile indicates that he never played for Charlton (because he came and went within that period).

    The game still starts in 2023, so a player like Myles Lewis-Skelley is still 16 years old and Euro 2024 hasn’t even happened.

    Not the end of the world, but I personally find it quite glaring when things like that aren’t covered - especially in a game where accuracy and detail is so central to the experience.


    Thank you! Maybe I'll give it a go. This youtuber seemed to suggest with a combination of updates/patches he could even change the start date. I.e commence summer 2025. That would update player ages etc. May not get around the history issue you mention, but did seem to suggest the wonder kids were updated which must includes Myles Lewis Skelley. He uses the example of Chido Obi at United. But yes, not likely to be perfect.