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I am going to say it!! Yes I am, Nathan Jones......................
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Would you still take Holden back?Bedsaddick said:
He's proving to be no better than the last 5 or six managers. In fact i'd take Holden back in a heartbeat.Leuth said:
What do we reckon folksthenewbie said:
It's absolutely a turnaround just based on the level of performance. Whether we can sustain it or was it just a one off, that really is down to the next few games.eaststandmike said:
Hardly a turnaround is it, one win after three defeats. Let’s take yesterday’s tactics, energy, and teamwork into the next three or four games and win them.Dazzler21 said:I didn't expect the turnaround.
I wonder if Nathan was being interfered with past couple of weeks? Whatever it was that caused that dip in effort and form, let's hope we kick on now... But we've seen all too many false dawns.
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I for one am glad we are stuck with all the shite he’s signed on long term contracts.Croydon said:Problem is, he has assembled a side if absolute garbage. So even if we did sack him, we're stuck with the shite he signed for the duration of the contracts.1 -
Tremendous moment in the last minute when the ball went in to the crowd behind the dug out and one of our fans immediatley returned the ball back to the waiting Wycombe player. Jones went absolutely bonkers at the fan - proper full melt down. Loved it.
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There’s a lot of humble pie on here and rightly so, not least from me . The team spirit and togetherness is remarkable . The problem he had at the time was that football was horrendous and we were not winning games - it’s not a good cocktail. Anyone can accept us being a hard and not aesthetically pleasing watch if we are winning .1
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Theres one bit on the highlights where Jones is going into full meltdown and the Charlton subs seem to pissing themselves laughing, before going mad themselves when the whistle blows... It must be like when you are at school and you snigger at the nutty teachers and their strange ways.
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The guy is a nutter, we all know that. If i was him i personally would've saved that kind of stuff for if we win the final, not scraping through a semi final. Ultimately we haven't achieved anything yet.
But they did say it's his first ever win in a play off (last night was his 6th match) so i can understand it after a very tense night.18 -
I think that's just who he is and how he works, Curbs mantra about highs and lows definitely doesn't appear to be one NJ subscribes to but it seems to work for him.Chris_from_Sidcup said:The guy is a nutter, we all know that. If i was him i personally would've saved that kind of stuff for if we win the final, not scraping through a semi final. Ultimately we haven't achieved anything yet.
But they did say it's his first ever win in a play off (last night was his 6th match) so i can understand it after a very tense night.0 -
Time to reflect and say well done to the bloke. Actually, not sure simply well done covers it. Yes, I doubted in October/November and a bit of December but he has shown he has got something about him. He is perfectly justified in throwing it back at us, but we were awful in those months to be fair. I think he was looking for that special something and clearly found it at Northampton and we never looked back.5
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You didn't want to sack Appleton!Callumcafc said:
Would you still take Holden back?Bedsaddick said:
He's proving to be no better than the last 5 or six managers. In fact i'd take Holden back in a heartbeat.Leuth said:
What do we reckon folksthenewbie said:
It's absolutely a turnaround just based on the level of performance. Whether we can sustain it or was it just a one off, that really is down to the next few games.eaststandmike said:
Hardly a turnaround is it, one win after three defeats. Let’s take yesterday’s tactics, energy, and teamwork into the next three or four games and win them.Dazzler21 said:I didn't expect the turnaround.
I wonder if Nathan was being interfered with past couple of weeks? Whatever it was that caused that dip in effort and form, let's hope we kick on now... But we've seen all too many false dawns.
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Can't image the amount of hard work he must have put in to get the team turned around, and then the self belief in his methods and the tough decisions he took on players. Just one more game. COYA1
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Personally I think its all gone downhill since Jose Riga left.Chunes said:
You didn't want to sack Appleton!Callumcafc said:
Would you still take Holden back?Bedsaddick said:
He's proving to be no better than the last 5 or six managers. In fact i'd take Holden back in a heartbeat.Leuth said:
What do we reckon folksthenewbie said:
It's absolutely a turnaround just based on the level of performance. Whether we can sustain it or was it just a one off, that really is down to the next few games.eaststandmike said:
Hardly a turnaround is it, one win after three defeats. Let’s take yesterday’s tactics, energy, and teamwork into the next three or four games and win them.Dazzler21 said:I didn't expect the turnaround.
I wonder if Nathan was being interfered with past couple of weeks? Whatever it was that caused that dip in effort and form, let's hope we kick on now... But we've seen all too many false dawns.
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Some proper hate for Jonesy on social media this morning over his celebrations. Not sure what people expected him to do1
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I think from the outside it's easy for people to go " oh he's doing it all for the cameras''. No that's genuinely just how he is. Don't think people have forgotten the Southampton stint and some of those press conferences either and that will always be used against himGribbo said:Some proper hate for Jonesy on social media this morning over his celebrations. Not sure what people expected him to do7 -
Its a classic case of neutral fans wanting to see a bit of passion in the game, and then seeing Jones: "No not like that"
He's definitely marmite, and talking with a Southampton fan on reddit last night, can see aspects of him in Interviews as to why people don't like him
He has a bit of a "Me against the world" attitude... I don't give a shit, but he really cant let go the comments made by doubters RE: Godden is a downgrade on May. Nor can he resist mentioning the fan unrest in November / December, although I do think that's more said in a banter type way now rather than wanting to dig,9 -
I suspect that most people would have cut NJ a bit more slack had we not been the victims of so many managers that either weren't good enough or the job with the resources available to them (i.e. players that they didn't want) was too big.
NJ is marmite and I suspect that's that case not just for fans but for players too. They either totally buy into him and his unique ways (as they did at Luton and have clearly done with us) or they they don't at all (as in the case at Southampton and Stoke).
It is a given that we all hope to win the play off final but, for me, it is then about layering that dynamism, on top of the existing solidity, that is missing which we will need to survive in the Championship and perhaps go even further. We are talking about spending something like £3m on say Keillor-Dunn. But, perhaps, that debates for another day. There is only one focus right now.2 -
ForeverAddickted said:Its a classic case of neutral fans wanting to see a bit of passion in the game, and then seeing Jones: "No not like that"
He's definitely marmite, and talking with a Southampton fan on reddit last night, can see aspects of him in Interviews as to why people don't like him
He has a bit of a "Me against the world" attitude... I don't give a shit, but he really cant let go the comments made by doubters RE: Godden is a downgrade on May. Nor can he resist mentioning the fan unrest in November / December, although I do think that's more said in a banter type way now rather than wanting to dig,
I did think you managed to find the only Southampton fan that actually seemed to have a fairly objective view of NJs time there and didn't just blame it all on him being a lunatic.
Completely agree on the Godden/May thing. If Godden scores the winner at Wembley, he'll bring it up again because he really can't let stuff like that go!1 -
All the OTT stuff is fine but it did look a little camera play and I’m gutted Sky chose to focus on that rather than the wider celebrations at the end.8
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Do you think he should try to move on from the criticism he received from fans when things were really falling apart at the end of last year? It's mentioned in almost every interview.3
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I do think his celebrations were a bit over the top last night & he loves the attention, but no doubting his passion.
I think he's the sort of guy you love if he's at your club, but would think he's a bit of a twat if you're a neutral.
That said, I love him but also think he's a bit of a twat 😊10 - Sponsored links:
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I stopped posting in support of Appleton towards the end because I saw the writing on the wall.Chunes said:
You didn't want to sack Appleton!Callumcafc said:
Would you still take Holden back?Bedsaddick said:
He's proving to be no better than the last 5 or six managers. In fact i'd take Holden back in a heartbeat.Leuth said:
What do we reckon folksthenewbie said:
It's absolutely a turnaround just based on the level of performance. Whether we can sustain it or was it just a one off, that really is down to the next few games.eaststandmike said:
Hardly a turnaround is it, one win after three defeats. Let’s take yesterday’s tactics, energy, and teamwork into the next three or four games and win them.Dazzler21 said:I didn't expect the turnaround.
I wonder if Nathan was being interfered with past couple of weeks? Whatever it was that caused that dip in effort and form, let's hope we kick on now... But we've seen all too many false dawns.
Thats a turnaround
There’s actually a great discussion on the Apples thread about managers turning it around after a really poor run of form. I gave Alex Ferguson and Chris Powell as examples but no one wanted to hear it. I suppose we can add Nathan Jones to the list.
I actually got to the same place with Jones after Crawley (stopping posting in support of him) which just goes to show how nonsense this all is.
In retrospect, giving Appleton as much time as we did was still enough for NJ to rescue us, and giving NJ as much time as we did was enough for him to turn it around and get us to a play off final. I think I’m a lot closer to being reasonable than people calling for a manager to be sacked after three losses in a row in October…2 -
Exactly this.Gravesend_Addick said:I do think his celebrations were a bit over the top last night & he loves the attention, but no doubting his passion.
I think he's the sort of guy you love if he's at your club, but would think he's a bit of a twat if you're a neutral.
That said, I love him but also think he's a bit of a twat 😊
Last night was a bit ridiculous and over the top, but I really, really don't care because whatever he's doing he's getting the results!
Whereas if Glasner did similar near the final whistle on Sunday I'd 100% think he was a bit of a twat.3 -
Sure, feeling like you've got a point to prove is always good, but I think to keep referencing it is a bit unnecessary.Scoham said:
Not if it helps motivate him.Gribbo said:Do you think he should try to move on from the criticism he received from fans when things were really falling apart at the end of last year? It's mentioned in almost every interview.
Anyway, don't want to seem like I'm knocking the bloke, especially today. Genuinely a big fan of his7 -
Thing is, nobody posts about him going mental during games on the sideline or getting booked during pre season friendlies so it just looks incredibly contrived from those on the outside and that have people with zero personality in charge.MarcusH26 said:
I think from the outside it's easy for people to go " oh he's doing it all for the cameras''. No that's genuinely just how he is. Don't think people have forgotten the Southampton stint and some of those press conferences either and that will always be used against himGribbo said:Some proper hate for Jonesy on social media this morning over his celebrations. Not sure what people expected him to do3 -
Memories of him screaming RELAX on the touchline whilst in Sloveniashine166 said:
Thing is, nobody posts about him going mental during games on the sideline or getting booked during pre season friendlies so it just looks incredibly contrived from those on the outside and that have people with zero personality in charge.MarcusH26 said:
I think from the outside it's easy for people to go " oh he's doing it all for the cameras''. No that's genuinely just how he is. Don't think people have forgotten the Southampton stint and some of those press conferences either and that will always be used against himGribbo said:Some proper hate for Jonesy on social media this morning over his celebrations. Not sure what people expected him to do
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Whilst I always stuck up for Nathan, I might have been persuaded he had to go after that terrible night in December. But thankfully he stayed, and I would like to say thank you to him for the pleasure him and his team gave me last night. That must have been one, if not the best night in over 66 years of supporting the Addicts, if you read this you made an old man very happy, thank you again.13
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I agree, is he a bit of a lunatic, probably yes but he's OUR lunatic. I definitely wouldn't want to work for him myself but you have to respect his achievements over the season as a wholeGravesend_Addick said:I do think his celebrations were a bit over the top last night & he loves the attention, but no doubting his passion.
I think he's the sort of guy you love if he's at your club, but would think he's a bit of a twat if you're a neutral.
That said, I love him but also think he's a bit of a twat 😊0 -
Proper weird trawling back through the thread to dig out other posters when we were playing some of the worst football known to man and losing to shite like Crawley @ home when those sorts of comments were posted. As Chunes said, you didn’t want Appleton sacked ffs.Callumcafc said:
Would you still take Holden back?Bedsaddick said:
He's proving to be no better than the last 5 or six managers. In fact i'd take Holden back in a heartbeat.Leuth said:
What do we reckon folksthenewbie said:
It's absolutely a turnaround just based on the level of performance. Whether we can sustain it or was it just a one off, that really is down to the next few games.eaststandmike said:
Hardly a turnaround is it, one win after three defeats. Let’s take yesterday’s tactics, energy, and teamwork into the next three or four games and win them.Dazzler21 said:I didn't expect the turnaround.
I wonder if Nathan was being interfered with past couple of weeks? Whatever it was that caused that dip in effort and form, let's hope we kick on now... But we've seen all too many false dawns.
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Point scoring from posts made almost half a year ago?
Dunno about that, we're at Wembley, let's enjoy the ocassion.
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Maybe, but hasn’t Callum had it the other way when things have gone badly after he’s been optimistic?arny23394 said:
Proper weird trawling back through the thread to dig out other posters when we were playing some of the worst football known to man and losing to shite like Crawley @ home when those sorts of comments were posted. As Chunes said, you didn’t want Appleton sacked ffs.Callumcafc said:
Would you still take Holden back?Bedsaddick said:
He's proving to be no better than the last 5 or six managers. In fact i'd take Holden back in a heartbeat.Leuth said:
What do we reckon folksthenewbie said:
It's absolutely a turnaround just based on the level of performance. Whether we can sustain it or was it just a one off, that really is down to the next few games.eaststandmike said:
Hardly a turnaround is it, one win after three defeats. Let’s take yesterday’s tactics, energy, and teamwork into the next three or four games and win them.Dazzler21 said:I didn't expect the turnaround.
I wonder if Nathan was being interfered with past couple of weeks? Whatever it was that caused that dip in effort and form, let's hope we kick on now... But we've seen all too many false dawns.
Thats a turnaround8
