I would say that one person who thought it was a goal scoring opportunity was McIntyre, otherwise he wouldn't have handled it. Personally there is enough doubt. I don't think he would have but Mannion could have come out to it also.
I saw 'Ronnie Moore' say McIntyre "took one for the team" as we still won I had a chuckle at that comment. In the thousands of games I have watched in parks, stadiums and on TV i have seen players deliberately hand or palm the ball away when the ball is going towards the net but normally from a cross it's because they jump and their hands or arms inadvertently make contact with the ball from the momentum of their leap.
McIntyre's was deliberate from the cross and unless he was unaware of the rules when he could or should've been red carded then he must think Charlton keepers save penalties!
As I said earlier Steve Brown's leap down the Covered end was similar but a more crowded area from memory when he was red carded but Steve claimed he was fouled in jumping and that was a bizarre occasion with the Plane display which followed as Brownie was horizontal on the stretcher.
I would like to hear McIntyre's own the situation and explain in his own words what was his reason for the deliberate hand ball. It's a shame as he really should be good enough not to make the mistakes he did against Lincoln for the 2nd goal and the feeble attempt at a back pass against the Cobblers.
What’s happened to our press and urgency? And why are we returning to hoof ball?
1. we were 2nd best to Northampton in pressing and getting knockdowns tackles etc. That is the main asset of our team , on the day Northampton were better at it.
2.Hoofball never went away, it's there every game. I was shocked that we played 2 fluent passing moves in 2nd half. Thats rare
We do try and play more now but whenever we need a goal or struggle to play through a team we return to hoofball and it has usually worked
There's a subtle difference between hoof ball and a good long pass which goes where your central strikers are or the wide boys of TC or Thierry. The Mannion kick was so accurate that Chuks hardly had to move before the headed flick on to Matty Godden who's anticipation was of a sharp centre forward. It was just as well Aneke didn't have to move far !
Hoof balls if no pass is on from the back then no problem but if you have the extra second go for the angled long ball. In the ideal football world we pass our way up the field but when being quickly closed down that isn't always an option at league 1 level.
As we have accumulated the most points along with Birmingham since the Crawley home game so using the width and breath of the pitch especially at home has paid dividends whether playing short or long passes or even hoof ball !
Good call to replace McIntyre who made two big mistakes, one leading to the penalty and a miss kick back pass that we managed to survive.
I literally said to the guy next to me as McIntyre went for the falling ball, he's gonna scuff this... And boom he scuffs it. Poor player. Not sure what he adds.
Puzzled by McIntyre inclusion as well. Alex Mitchell must have turned into complete mess not to play. Also our academy players- there must be as good/better players there
I'd like to think that McIntyre's lack of game time over the season is the reason for his inconsistency. At times yesterday, he and Jones were going for the same ball and yet posters on here were stating that McIntyre favours his left foot, so him replacing Gillesphey should have been seamless, it wasn't. As for Mitchell's exclusion, he wouldn't have replaced Gillesphey yesterday, as Mitchell is definitely right footed. Kayne Ramsay now stands in the way of Mitchell and next season there will be two more contenders for that role, Josh Laqeretabua and Zach Mitchell.
Mitchell can easily play the left CB role that McIntyre played. Just as the left footed McIntyre played the right CB role when Jones was absent.
Perhaps I have it wrong then, you have three centre backs, the middle centre back is surely Lloyd Jones, left side is Gillisphey, right side Ramsay. So when McIntyre replaced Lloyd Jones, he occupied the central position, at least that's what it looked like to me. Back to Mitchell, we have never played him on the left because he is right footed and we've never played Gillisphey on the right because he is left footed.
The penalty incident was a clear handball - no need for Mr Magoo on VAR to give that one - but could you claim it was denying a clear goal-scoring opportunity?
You couldn't be certain that the Northampton player would have even got to the ball let alone score and given the flight of the ball and where the incident took place the best that could have happened for the oppo was a header or hook-back across goal.
If anything it was the handball that GAVE them the goal-scoring opportunity!
It was never a goal scoring opportunity, which made the decision making by McIntyre even more ridiculous. Obviously Northampton would say that it was a goal scoring opportunity so they can moan that it should have been a red, and obviously all Charlton fans will take the alternative view. But one of the few genuinely objective people in the stadium, the referee, clearly didn’t think it was and thus didn’t give a red card.
People would do well to remember that when McIntyre was hooked against Lincoln Mitchell came on and somehow managed to look decidedly worse than McIntyre. He's obviously having a bit of a confidence crisis at the moment and he's very unfortunate that he didn't really do much wrong to lose his spot, he's just not as brilliant as Ramsay, but he's not looking like a good option at the moment and the idea that we would replace Gillesphey at LCB with an out of form RCB rather than a left footed CB who has had as many man of the match performances as dodgy ones at centre back is insane.
I don't understand how Alex Mitchell has a reputation now for not being comfortable on the ball etc. He was playing absolutely fine, Jones had to find a way to get Edwards, Ramsay and Small on the pitch.
It was Gillesphey or Mitchell and Gillesphey has the edge for a natural left footer.
Mitchell looked very comfortable on the right hand side of the back 5 and rarely looked in bother to me across 25 games or so. Also part of the 2nd best defensive sides in Lincoln last season with 40 goals conceded, only Derby conceded less (37). Pompey conceded 41 for context.
Mitchell’s passing is definitely his weak link. There have been a few times he undercooked passes to the keeper and played inexplicable balls across the back line, one of which at least ended up as a goal (Preston maybe?). He also always looks to clear the ball into the stands instead of controlling it and finding a pass. That leads to him being fairly solid and shows he knows a weakness in his game but it also a) stops us having the chance to build and b) gives up a huge amount of territory. Those moments would be highlighted even more if he was playing on his weak side.
Out of curiosity I just looked at the pass accuracy of our CBs
Ramsay: 75.2%
Jones: 70.7%
Gillesphey: 65.1% (all those aimless diagonals earlier in the season) Mitchell: 67.3%
McIntyre: 75.2% (admittedly small sample size)
3% less accuracy than what is seen as our most comfortable centre back on the ball.
A lot of those passes would have been when we played a different style before we switched it up.
Just surprised at the stigma he appears to have obtained, as I'm not seeing what other people are seeing. He looked assured, relaxed and reliable to me. Played solid against the best team in the league at home and didn't really put a foot wrong. I remember all the confusion when was dropped one game earlier in the season after looking solid.
I just look at McIntyre and I see bottler written all over him, I look at Mitchell and I see a bloke with character that will step up.
Hopefully Gillesphey is back anyway and this conversation is for nothing.
Good call to replace McIntyre who made two big mistakes, one leading to the penalty and a miss kick back pass that we managed to survive.
I literally said to the guy next to me as McIntyre went for the falling ball, he's gonna scuff this... And boom he scuffs it. Poor player. Not sure what he adds.
Puzzled by McIntyre inclusion as well. Alex Mitchell must have turned into complete mess not to play. Also our academy players- there must be as good/better players there
I'd like to think that McIntyre's lack of game time over the season is the reason for his inconsistency. At times yesterday, he and Jones were going for the same ball and yet posters on here were stating that McIntyre favours his left foot, so him replacing Gillesphey should have been seamless, it wasn't. As for Mitchell's exclusion, he wouldn't have replaced Gillesphey yesterday, as Mitchell is definitely right footed. Kayne Ramsay now stands in the way of Mitchell and next season there will be two more contenders for that role, Josh Laqeretabua and Zach Mitchell.
Mitchell can easily play the left CB role that McIntyre played. Just as the left footed McIntyre played the right CB role when Jones was absent.
McIntyre never played RCB he was in the middle of a back 3 which is very different, Ramsay is the RCB
Ramsay isn't a pure RCB. For much of the time, he's RB, with Small as a right winger.
Pass accuracy stats are meaningless for defenders, as they don't differentiate between possession conceded by a terrible pass, and possession conceded by a long ball forward.
On Friday McIntyre just passed the ball sideways and backwards to other defenders , whereas Jones played it forward far more often, so will have worse passing stats
Good call to replace McIntyre who made two big mistakes, one leading to the penalty and a miss kick back pass that we managed to survive.
I literally said to the guy next to me as McIntyre went for the falling ball, he's gonna scuff this... And boom he scuffs it. Poor player. Not sure what he adds.
Puzzled by McIntyre inclusion as well. Alex Mitchell must have turned into complete mess not to play. Also our academy players- there must be as good/better players there
I'd like to think that McIntyre's lack of game time over the season is the reason for his inconsistency. At times yesterday, he and Jones were going for the same ball and yet posters on here were stating that McIntyre favours his left foot, so him replacing Gillesphey should have been seamless, it wasn't. As for Mitchell's exclusion, he wouldn't have replaced Gillesphey yesterday, as Mitchell is definitely right footed. Kayne Ramsay now stands in the way of Mitchell and next season there will be two more contenders for that role, Josh Laqeretabua and Zach Mitchell.
Mitchell can easily play the left CB role that McIntyre played. Just as the left footed McIntyre played the right CB role when Jones was absent.
McIntyre never played RCB he was in the middle of a back 3 which is very different, Ramsay is the RCB
Ramsay isn't a pure RCB. For much of the time, he's RB, with Small as a right winger.
That’s the system we play, it’s exactly what Mitchell did earlier in the season and what Gillesphey does on the left. There’s no way you’d want Mitchell to play in a role where he has to be LB for a chunk of the time
Out of curiosity I just looked at the pass accuracy of our CBs
Ramsay: 75.2%
Jones: 70.7%
Gillesphey: 65.1% (all those aimless diagonals earlier in the season) Mitchell: 67.3%
McIntyre: 75.2% (admittedly small sample size)
3% less accuracy than what is seen as our most comfortable centre back on the ball.
A lot of those passes would have been when we played a different style before we switched it up.
Just surprised at the stigma he appears to have obtained, as I'm not seeing what other people are seeing. He looked assured, relaxed and reliable to me. Played solid against the best team in the league at home and didn't really put a foot wrong. I remember all the confusion when was dropped one game earlier in the season after looking solid.
I just look at McIntyre and I see bottler written all over him, I look at Mitchell and I see a bloke with character that will step up.
Hopefully Gillesphey is back anyway and this conversation is for nothing.
What Id like to see (and don’t have the time to hunt out) is how many of each of their passes have been long balls as that would be useful context
The penalty incident was a clear handball - no need for Mr Magoo on VAR to give that one - but could you claim it was denying a clear goal-scoring opportunity?
You couldn't be certain that the Northampton player would have even got to the ball let alone score and given the flight of the ball and where the incident took place the best that could have happened for the oppo was a header or hook-back across goal.
If anything it was the handball that GAVE them the goal-scoring opportunity!
It was never a goal scoring opportunity, which made the decision making by McIntyre even more ridiculous. Obviously Northampton would say that it was a goal scoring opportunity so they can moan that it should have been a red, and obviously all Charlton fans will take the alternative view. But one of the few genuinely objective people in the stadium, the referee, clearly didn’t think it was and thus didn’t give a red card.
It was a cross. The ball wasn't going in but needed a touch to go in so no goal scoring opportunity.
It was a stupid penalty to give away (it was the correct decision to bring Chuks on at least he knows how to head the ball).
How can that not be a goal scoring opportunity when he’s pushed it away 2ft from the other fellas head, I swear that’s the other way round the flip flopping of opinions would be so different . does it have to be on a plate for it to be considered a chance , genuinely don’t know cos it may bobble , the player may be shit etc etc
How can that not be a goal scoring opportunity when he’s pushed it away 2ft from the other fellas head, I swear that’s the other way round the flip flopping of opinions would be so different . does it have to be on a plate for it to be considered a chance , genuinely don’t know cos it may bobble , the player may be shit etc etc
Agree. If the ball is crossed into the six yard box and you have two players in there attempting to get to it first then it’s a goal scoring opportunity, in my opinion.
The Valley struggles with 20k crowds now, maybe with 20k regulars (as in the PL days) it would be smoother, but now it feels really crowded.
There were massive queues for the Upper CE again, were enough turnstiles built for that section? The Curbs concourse is completely clogged up, while the number of ladies toilets is clearly not enough now.
First time in years I've had someone sitting next to me alongside my dad, and well.. I felt squished, guess we'll have to get used to this!
What drives me insane is how bad phone signals are at The Valley, especially when it's busy at half time, we must have the worst 5G service in the world considering it's London!
The key decision of the game, namely the Tom McIntyre incident, hardly got a mention on this thread before today. Had TM got sent off, the roof on this thread would have exploded! The manager of Northampton was cautioned for dissent for claiming overvigorously that TM should have been sent off for denying a goal scoring opportunity. The Laws of the Game (Law 12) is not descriptive enough to make such a decision as definitive, so the decision becomes one of subjective.
For what it is worth, let me give my reasons why I support the retention of TM on the field of play. Normally a player considered to be in a goal scoring opportunity is one who (a) has control of the ball (usually with his feet) and (b) is at an angle to the goal whereby he can see most of the space between the posts, as opposed to a player wide of the goal, in a winger-type position, and the gets fouled by either the last outfield defender or the goalkeeper. In the case in question the player behind TM neither had the ball and was not in control of it. Also, it is very subjective to establish that the forward would have got a clean header and that he only had a limited amount of the goal to aim at. He was however very close to the goal. Given the amount of doubt (in my mind), I cannot see how the referee could have been sure that the criteria could be met to justify the sending off. Any alternative views, please?
This situation raises to other points: (1) there were loads of people on here who thought that the referee favoured Northampton and at least one used the word "bias". The one key decision in the game, which was one that could have impacted upon the game, was given in Charlton's favour; the other decisions such as time wasting are almost inconsequential compared with the potential sending off. Thus the decision of favouring Northampton is indefensible. (2) the people on here who marked the referee very low, presumably did so on the basis that, in their opinion, the referee got the key decision wrong and that TM should have been sent off. Otherwise to recognise that the key decision was right, but the mark awarded to the referee is low, is indefensible.
Have I got things wrong in my thinking?
Just because the referee got one key decision correct doesn't negate his other 90+ minutes of ineptdness.
The Valley struggles with 20k crowds now, maybe with 20k regulars (as in the PL days) it would be smoother, but now it feels really crowded.
There were massive queues for the Upper CE again, were enough turnstiles built for that section? The Curbs concourse is completely clogged up, while the number of ladies toilets is clearly not enough now.
First time in years I've had someone sitting next to me alongside my dad, and well.. I felt squished, guess we'll have to get used to this!
What drives me insane is how bad phone signals are at The Valley, especially when it's busy at half time, we must have the worst 5G service in the world considering it's London!
The signal was far worse at the Cambridge game, I had NO idea of the scores elsewhere until well away from the ground.
Which is slightly ironic considering that Cambridge is the technology centre of the UK, and probably invented some of the mobile phone technology
'Too easy to be self righteous today'.... then proceeds to bang on and be self righteous. Good manager and done unbelievable since Crawley but a absolute knobhead very frequently with his comments.
One day it'll click that most people were not pissed off with who he signed, but who he sold. I know it's all in the past, but he's made these points himself after wins on multiple occasions.
Well, at least it's something to moan about, eh? One day it will click that most people's priority is he has got us into the play-offs after a dismal start to the Season. And he has done it with the players he wanted. But yeah. Attack his character and insult him because of words he uses.
Weird, I'd always thought someone's words are part of a character. Yeah we are happy that he turned things around after a shocking start indeed and that the players he preaches over finally started playing.
If he wasn't moaning after a win and digging out fans with a snarky grin (again), fans wouldn't be commenting in his words.
I agree with you Shine.
Jones gives the impression that he may still be whinging in 30 years time, that some fans were vocal because we were arguably playing the worst football in Charlton's history.
Ok maybe a smallish number were a bit too vocal, but virtually every manager and player experiences this (not saying they should, saying they do).
I can't previously recall such an openly thin skinned manager in my lifetime.
Wait what is this... The long range guns are firing off the coast of Hastings? - There is to be no Easter resurrection for Northampton... and I may have missed this one, but still...
Northampton you've been SUNK!!
I enjoy opening all the post-match threads purely to see this GIF 🤣
Does anyone know what ship that is?
It’s one of the four Iowa class. 9x16” guns. HMS Nelson and Rodney had the same number and size of guns, Rodney needed a rebuild after firing broadsides at Bismarck, you fear for the ship and the target with guns like these.
It was around 1978/79 and I was, and still am, a close friend of the then guvnor of The Antigallican. I was driving his car (he was pissed!) back from an away dart match and a car stopped to give way to me around a parked car. He used a phrase that I still use to this very day:
'Too easy to be self righteous today'.... then proceeds to bang on and be self righteous. Good manager and done unbelievable since Crawley but a absolute knobhead very frequently with his comments.
One day it'll click that most people were not pissed off with who he signed, but who he sold. I know it's all in the past, but he's made these points himself after wins on multiple occasions.
Well, at least it's something to moan about, eh? One day it will click that most people's priority is he has got us into the play-offs after a dismal start to the Season. And he has done it with the players he wanted. But yeah. Attack his character and insult him because of words he uses.
Weird, I'd always thought someone's words are part of a character. Yeah we are happy that he turned things around after a shocking start indeed and that the players he preaches over finally started playing.
If he wasn't moaning after a win and digging out fans with a snarky grin (again), fans wouldn't be commenting in his words.
I agree with you Shine.
Jones gives the impression that he may still be whinging in 30 years time, that some fans were vocal because we were arguably playing the worst football in Charlton's history.
Ok maybe a smallish number were a bit too vocal, but virtually every manager and player experiences this (not saying they should, saying they do).
I can't previously recall such an openly thin skinned manager in my lifetime.
I think its, probably, safe to say that Nathan bears a grudge!
Out of curiosity I just looked at the pass accuracy of our CBs
Ramsay: 75.2%
Jones: 70.7%
Gillesphey: 65.1% (all those aimless diagonals earlier in the season) Mitchell: 67.3%
McIntyre: 75.2% (admittedly small sample size)
3% less accuracy than what is seen as our most comfortable centre back on the ball.
A lot of those passes would have been when we played a different style before we switched it up.
Just surprised at the stigma he appears to have obtained, as I'm not seeing what other people are seeing. He looked assured, relaxed and reliable to me. Played solid against the best team in the league at home and didn't really put a foot wrong. I remember all the confusion when was dropped one game earlier in the season after looking solid.
I just look at McIntyre and I see bottler written all over him, I look at Mitchell and I see a bloke with character that will step up.
Hopefully Gillesphey is back anyway and this conversation is for nothing.
I agree Mitchell is a solid and reliable defender.
However he’s our least talented CB with the ball. He deals with this as a CB like him should, by keeping it simple and not taking risks. Nothing wrong with that, Jason Pearce was similar - he knew his limitations and didn’t try to be a ball playing CB.
I wouldn’t feel comfortable with Mitchell in the LCB position in a back three, but he’s good cover for Jones and Ramsay. Just don’t expect him to offer what they do with the ball. That’s fine as players of their quality aren’t going to be squad players in L1.
The key decision of the game, namely the Tom McIntyre incident, hardly got a mention on this thread before today. Had TM got sent off, the roof on this thread would have exploded! The manager of Northampton was cautioned for dissent for claiming overvigorously that TM should have been sent off for denying a goal scoring opportunity. The Laws of the Game (Law 12) is not descriptive enough to make such a decision as definitive, so the decision becomes one of subjective.
For what it is worth, let me give my reasons why I support the retention of TM on the field of play. Normally a player considered to be in a goal scoring opportunity is one who (a) has control of the ball (usually with his feet) and (b) is at an angle to the goal whereby he can see most of the space between the posts, as opposed to a player wide of the goal, in a winger-type position, and the gets fouled by either the last outfield defender or the goalkeeper. In the case in question the player behind TM neither had the ball and was not in control of it. Also, it is very subjective to establish that the forward would have got a clean header and that he only had a limited amount of the goal to aim at. He was however very close to the goal. Given the amount of doubt (in my mind), I cannot see how the referee could have been sure that the criteria could be met to justify the sending off. Any alternative views, please?
This situation raises to other points: (1) there were loads of people on here who thought that the referee favoured Northampton and at least one used the word "bias". The one key decision in the game, which was one that could have impacted upon the game, was given in Charlton's favour; the other decisions such as time wasting are almost inconsequential compared with the potential sending off. Thus the decision of favouring Northampton is indefensible. (2) the people on here who marked the referee very low, presumably did so on the basis that, in their opinion, the referee got the key decision wrong and that TM should have been sent off. Otherwise to recognise that the key decision was right, but the mark awarded to the referee is low, is indefensible.
Have I got things wrong in my thinking?
Well explained and to me (with limited knowledge of the laws of the game I enjoy watching) informed comment. Exposes the hypocrisy of most fans. I'm as guilty as many. We forget some decisions and remember the ones that annoy us. But I don't think I 've ever thought a ref was biased, but sometimes erratic.
I agree that refs aren't biased but some are better than others. Having said that, what about the ref in the Rangers game in Spain. The defender ripped a chunk of the striker's shirt off and the ref didn't give a foul/penalty and VAR didn't intervene. I presume that was a top level ref!
'Too easy to be self righteous today'.... then proceeds to bang on and be self righteous. Good manager and done unbelievable since Crawley but a absolute knobhead very frequently with his comments.
One day it'll click that most people were not pissed off with who he signed, but who he sold. I know it's all in the past, but he's made these points himself after wins on multiple occasions.
Well, at least it's something to moan about, eh? One day it will click that most people's priority is he has got us into the play-offs after a dismal start to the Season. And he has done it with the players he wanted. But yeah. Attack his character and insult him because of words he uses.
Weird, I'd always thought someone's words are part of a character. Yeah we are happy that he turned things around after a shocking start indeed and that the players he preaches over finally started playing.
If he wasn't moaning after a win and digging out fans with a snarky grin (again), fans wouldn't be commenting in his words.
I agree with you Shine.
Jones gives the impression that he may still be whinging in 30 years time, that some fans were vocal because we were arguably playing the worst football in Charlton's history.
Ok maybe a smallish number were a bit too vocal, but virtually every manager and player experiences this (not saying they should, saying they do).
I can't previously recall such an openly thin skinned manager in my lifetime.
I think it’s, probably, safe to say that Nathan bears a grudge!
I don’t blame the bloke tbh it’s only fair to give a bit back after the stick we gave him (me included) actually it makes me chuckle when he has his digs fair play to the bloke I think those taking offence are being a bit sensitive tbh
Another hard fought win. Didn't play well & although play offs are now secured I'm not sure we will be going into them as an "in form" team. Yes, we might not have lost recently but we're not playing with any type of swagger & last 2 games have been holding on to a single goal lead going into injury time.
Yes, call me a negative Nancy (I'm really not - just a realist) but it would be nice to win by more than a single goal & look comfortable with 10 mins to go.
Looking at other teams recent results I think we'll lose on Monday & Wycombe are now in the box seats for 2nd. Wrexham are now starting to bottle it & can see us winning up there.
Cant see is getting 2nd, especially as our GD is much worse than the other 3 teams around us who can grab it. Only way that will change is if we beat Wycombe & Wrexham by 3 or 4 clear goals, which ain't going to happen.
You are a lunatic. We have:
4 wins in 5. 9 wins in 12 1 defeat in 12. 2 defeats in 19. 56 points from our last 25 games, which averaged over a full season is 103 points.
But yeah, we're not an "in form" team.
Maybe "in form" wasn't the right word but currently I'd say if we played Stockport in the play offs we'd lose both games.
We are only just managing to beat the poor teams at the wrong end of the table. If we beat Burton 4-0 like we beat Rochdale at the end of the 18/19 season then I'll eat humble pie.
Granted it wasn't Burton, it was only 2nd placed Wycombe, and it wasn't the last game of the season it was our must-win away tie third from the end, but can I get you a fork @golfaddick?
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I saw 'Ronnie Moore' say McIntyre "took one for the team" as we still won I had a chuckle at that comment.
In the thousands of games I have watched in parks, stadiums and on TV i have seen players deliberately hand or palm the ball away when the ball is going towards the net but normally from a cross it's because they jump and their hands or arms inadvertently make contact with the ball from the momentum of their leap.
McIntyre's was deliberate from the cross and unless he was unaware of the rules when he could or should've been red carded then he must think Charlton keepers save penalties!
As I said earlier Steve Brown's leap down the Covered end was similar but a more crowded area from memory when he was red carded but Steve claimed he was fouled in jumping and that was a bizarre occasion with the Plane display which followed as Brownie was horizontal on the stretcher.
I would like to hear McIntyre's own the situation and explain in his own words what was his reason for the deliberate hand ball.
It's a shame as he really should be good enough not to make the mistakes he did against Lincoln for the 2nd goal and the feeble attempt at a back pass against the Cobblers.
There's a subtle difference between hoof ball and a good long pass which goes where your central strikers are or the wide boys of TC or Thierry. The Mannion kick was so accurate that Chuks hardly had to move before the headed flick on to Matty Godden who's anticipation was of a sharp centre forward. It was just as well Aneke didn't have to move far !
Hoof balls if no pass is on from the back then no problem but if you have the extra second go for the angled long ball. In the ideal football world we pass our way up the field but when being quickly closed down that isn't always an option at league 1 level.
As we have accumulated the most points along with Birmingham since the Crawley home game so using the width and breath of the pitch especially at home has paid dividends whether playing short or long passes or even hoof ball !
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It was Gillesphey or Mitchell and Gillesphey has the edge for a natural left footer.
Mitchell looked very comfortable on the right hand side of the back 5 and rarely looked in bother to me across 25 games or so. Also part of the 2nd best defensive sides in Lincoln last season with 40 goals conceded, only Derby conceded less (37). Pompey conceded 41 for context.
Ramsay: 75.2%
Mitchell: 67.3%
A lot of those passes would have been when we played a different style before we switched it up.
Just surprised at the stigma he appears to have obtained, as I'm not seeing what other people are seeing. He looked assured, relaxed and reliable to me. Played solid against the best team in the league at home and didn't really put a foot wrong. I remember all the confusion when was dropped one game earlier in the season after looking solid.
I just look at McIntyre and I see bottler written all over him, I look at Mitchell and I see a bloke with character that will step up.
Hopefully Gillesphey is back anyway and this conversation is for nothing.
On Friday McIntyre just passed the ball sideways and backwards to other defenders , whereas Jones played it forward far more often, so will have worse passing stats
It was a cross. The ball wasn't going in but needed a touch to go in so no goal scoring opportunity.
It was a stupid penalty to give away (it was the correct decision to bring Chuks on at least he knows how to head the ball).
does it have to be on a plate for it to be considered a chance , genuinely don’t know cos it may bobble , the player may be shit etc etc
What drives me insane is how bad phone signals are at The Valley, especially when it's busy at half time, we must have the worst 5G service in the world considering it's London!
Which is slightly ironic considering that Cambridge is the technology centre of the UK, and probably invented some of the mobile phone technology
Jones gives the impression that he may still be whinging in 30 years time, that some fans were vocal because we were arguably playing the worst football in Charlton's history.
Ok maybe a smallish number were a bit too vocal, but virtually every manager and player experiences this (not saying they should, saying they do).
I can't previously recall such an openly thin skinned manager in my lifetime.
However he’s our least talented CB with the ball. He deals with this as a CB like him should, by keeping it simple and not taking risks. Nothing wrong with that, Jason Pearce was similar - he knew his limitations and didn’t try to be a ball playing CB.
I wouldn’t feel comfortable with Mitchell in the LCB position in a back three, but he’s good cover for Jones and Ramsay. Just don’t expect him to offer what they do with the ball. That’s fine as players of their quality aren’t going to be squad players in L1.
Exposes the hypocrisy of most fans. I'm as guilty as many. We forget some decisions and remember the ones that annoy us.
But I don't think I 've ever thought a ref was biased, but sometimes erratic.