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Thierry Small - signed a 4 year deal with Preston (p36)
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Who’s the better then? I think this comment is very harsh! Has clearly been working on his right footed crossing and he has whipped some great balls into the danger area of late!jackmasterflash said:We can do better he has not provided many assists, flashy and fun to watch but unless he puts in more crosses and positions himself better to shoot, he will be of limited use5 -
All jokes aside, whatever he does or doesn’t do is his decision to make and either thrive upon or regret as it pans out but I think playing under Nathan and with the guys he’s got around him has been pretty good for him so far so another season, if we are in the Championship, or half season if we are in League one still (because we won’t hold on to him for much more than that) will give him that more time I think he still needs before he really is ready to step up.Henry Irving said:If he stays he's a great prospect buying into the project, sensible young man putting his career before money.
If he leaves he is an ungrateful, greedy, over rated snake who will crash and burn.
There is no middle ground
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I remember people saying T Campbell wasn't good enough, wasn't scoring or providing assists.
Some thought he shouldn't have been given a new contract in the summer
He always had the talent but he was young, in a new position and the team was struggling.
Now he'll walk young player of the year and some are even saying he should win Player of the Year.
Young players can improve, with time, patience, support and guidance of their manager, coaches and team mates.
Small can do the same.25 -
Unfortunately I think Small will be off. The draw of a juicy signing on fee in lieu of a transfer fee + potentially playing for a club in the top half of the championship will prove too much.
Would love for him to stay but also think he can be replaced. The last few seasons with Rak-sakyi, CBT and now TC, we seem to have been able to replace the wingers we couldn't keep hold of.1 -
He needs to play regularly - if he joins the wrong club and doesn't play regularly he'll go backwards. Plenty of young players move for money to the wrong clubs.Henry Irving said:I remember people saying T Campbell wasn't good enough, wasn't scoring or providing assists.
Some thought he shouldn't have been given a new contract in the summer
He always had the talent but he was young, in a new position and the team was struggling.
Now he'll walk young player of the year and some are even saying he should win Player of the Year.
Young players can improve, with time, patience, support and guidance of their manager, coaches and team mates.
Small can do the same.3 -
He would play left back in another team .ForeverAddickted said:
He's not even playing Left-Back though, he's been doing better at Right-Backwmcf123 said:Athletico Charlton said:I rate him and he has a very high ceiling but he is still very raw and gets away with some pretty poor distribution and passing because it's league 1.
If he goes elsewhere to a Championship team it will either rgo excellently or he will be bombed out within a few games I suspect
Should stay a couple of years and work on his foot all where he is first choice.
Good left backs are hard to find - he will play regularly somewhere .
Could make the argument that Edwards is the better Left-Back.1 -
Is he good enough defensively to play LB or even LWB in a decent Championship team at the moment?wmcf123 said:
He would play left back in another team .ForeverAddickted said:
He's not even playing Left-Back though, he's been doing better at Right-Backwmcf123 said:Athletico Charlton said:I rate him and he has a very high ceiling but he is still very raw and gets away with some pretty poor distribution and passing because it's league 1.
If he goes elsewhere to a Championship team it will either rgo excellently or he will be bombed out within a few games I suspect
Should stay a couple of years and work on his foot all where he is first choice.
Good left backs are hard to find - he will play regularly somewhere .
Could make the argument that Edwards is the better Left-Back.
His current role exploits his flair and he has the protection of the incredibly solid Ramsay behind him.3 -
Would be concerned by Small as a Championship left back. Think sides would exploit how much he likes to get forward. Ultimately I think his future is as more of a winger where he has someone that can protect behind him.1
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I think the fact we bought Edwards shows that NJ was concerned about Small being a LWB at L1 level let alone Championship level. I really like Small and I hope he stays but I also back NJ to find the right replacement if needed4
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A lot of teams play a similar kind of hybrid system to us. It’s not that unlikely that he can find a similar role somewhere where he’s a wing back that essentially has a back 4 to cover himkillerandflash said:
Is he good enough defensively to play LB or even LWB in a decent Championship team at the moment?wmcf123 said:
He would play left back in another team .ForeverAddickted said:
He's not even playing Left-Back though, he's been doing better at Right-Backwmcf123 said:Athletico Charlton said:I rate him and he has a very high ceiling but he is still very raw and gets away with some pretty poor distribution and passing because it's league 1.
If he goes elsewhere to a Championship team it will either rgo excellently or he will be bombed out within a few games I suspect
Should stay a couple of years and work on his foot all where he is first choice.
Good left backs are hard to find - he will play regularly somewhere .
Could make the argument that Edwards is the better Left-Back.
His current role exploits his flair and he has the protection of the incredibly solid Ramsay behind him.2 - Sponsored links:
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Does it? We were never going to have a squad with only one left back.fenaddick said:I think the fact we bought Edwards shows that NJ was concerned about Small being a LWB at L1 level let alone Championship level. I really like Small and I hope he stays but I also back NJ to find the right replacement if needed5 -
I think it does, Edwards started the first two games and came straight back in after his injury. Jones clearly fancied him more than SmallScoham said:
Does it? We were never going to have a squad with only one left back.fenaddick said:I think the fact we bought Edwards shows that NJ was concerned about Small being a LWB at L1 level let alone Championship level. I really like Small and I hope he stays but I also back NJ to find the right replacement if needed2 -
Probably not a trust or attitude thing with Small v Edwards.
Edwards is 4 years older and 150-200 more senior appearances than Small3 -
“Keep him, would make a good squad player”
The irony this year is we actually have players we should and need to keep hold of. Hopefully we can get something sorted. Him, Ramsay, TC, Coventry, Edwards and Lloyd Jones really are the core players we’ve come to rely on.
Godden too, but he’s got a few more years on the above mentioned names.
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If he stays I’ll eat my hat.5
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Have you a supply of liquorice hats?ShootersHillGuru said:If he stays I’ll eat my hat.0 -
Ever the optimist 🙄ShootersHillGuru said:If he stays I’ll eat my hat.2 -
I would expect him to stay if we go up unless he gets a silly offer. Not sure that will happen. If we don't go up, he will have championship offers so you would think it is a no brainer for him if that is the case.1
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I like Small, but he is very hit and miss. Said to my dad at the weekend that he's no CBT who has struggled one div up, and he's certainly not at Tyreece levels. He has ability, but he's far from the finished article. I know everyone keeps saying he's a wing back, but he's played right wing pretty much since the "light bulb " moment of Northampton away. He's not actually very good at defending imho but has a lot of energy to get up and down the wing and is better going forward. Definitely a rough diamond who'd be better off getting a couple of seasons of proper football under his belt. Still a young man with a "high ceiling " as they say!3
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That’s because he plays at RWB when we don’t have the ball, and becomes a right winger when we get the ball.YTS1978 said:I like Small, but he is very hit and miss. Said to my dad at the weekend that he's no CBT who has struggled one div up, and he's certainly not at Tyreece levels. He has ability, but he's far from the finished article. I know everyone keeps saying he's a wing back, but he's played right wing pretty much since the "light bulb " moment of Northampton away. He's not actually very good at defending imho but has a lot of energy to get up and down the wing and is better going forward. Definitely a rough diamond who'd be better off getting a couple of seasons of proper football under his belt. Still a young man with a "high ceiling " as they say!0 - Sponsored links:
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In pre season I was chatting to Charlie and he told me Nathan had big plans for Tyreece. He said he expected this to be his breakout year. I think it’s safe to say Nathan knows what he’s talking about and clearly has an eye for talent.
Who would have thought a previously-troubled left back could actually become a talented right winger but he has.
if Small doesn’t see that this place has resurrected his career then I I don’t know what it will take for him to realise he’s been badly advised before now.23 -
Charlton Life transfer policy:cabbles said:“Keep him, would make a good squad player”
The irony this year is we actually have players we should and need to keep hold of. Hopefully we can get something sorted. Him, Ramsay, TC, Coventry, Edwards and Lloyd Jones really are the core players we’ve come to rely on.
Godden too, but he’s got a few more years on the above mentioned names.
On Terrel Thomas: "He only costs us a goal every 3rd or 4th game, plenty good enough for squad player. Verdict: Keep him!"
On Thierry Small: "Yes he can cover an entire flank singled handed, remains a threat even when doubled up on, and has loads of time and potential to get better, but sometimes he over hits his crosses. Verdict: Easily replaced - get rid!"14 -
But what would be a silly offer. He has a good few games under his belt and he would not carry a transfer fee, so he could pick up a package that a "bought" player could not.MuttleyCAFC said:I would expect him to stay if we go up unless he gets a silly offer. Not sure that will happen. If we don't go up, he will have championship offers so you would think it is a no brainer for him if that is the case.0 -
We would be due some sort of development fee so not totally free.Kap10 said:
But what would be a silly offer. He has a good few games under his belt and he would not carry a transfer fee, so he could pick up a package that a "bought" player could not.MuttleyCAFC said:I would expect him to stay if we go up unless he gets a silly offer. Not sure that will happen. If we don't go up, he will have championship offers so you would think it is a no brainer for him if that is the case.0 -
In what way are we due a development fee, he wasn't an academy product?LargeAddick said:
We would be due some sort of development fee so not totally free.Kap10 said:
But what would be a silly offer. He has a good few games under his belt and he would not carry a transfer fee, so he could pick up a package that a "bought" player could not.MuttleyCAFC said:I would expect him to stay if we go up unless he gets a silly offer. Not sure that will happen. If we don't go up, he will have championship offers so you would think it is a no brainer for him if that is the case.0 -
It’s purely down to age not what academy a player came through. Really easy to forget he’s only 20! We wouldn’t get a fee comparable to his transfer value though in part because of his short time with us I thinkeastterrace6168 said:
In what way are we due a development fee, he wasn't an academy product?LargeAddick said:
We would be due some sort of development fee so not totally free.Kap10 said:
But what would be a silly offer. He has a good few games under his belt and he would not carry a transfer fee, so he could pick up a package that a "bought" player could not.MuttleyCAFC said:I would expect him to stay if we go up unless he gets a silly offer. Not sure that will happen. If we don't go up, he will have championship offers so you would think it is a no brainer for him if that is the case.2 -
Unsure if this is a fair summary of the "Charlton Life transfer policy". You're stating two different opinions about two different players.Exiled_Addick said:
Charlton Life transfer policy:cabbles said:“Keep him, would make a good squad player”
The irony this year is we actually have players we should and need to keep hold of. Hopefully we can get something sorted. Him, Ramsay, TC, Coventry, Edwards and Lloyd Jones really are the core players we’ve come to rely on.
Godden too, but he’s got a few more years on the above mentioned names.
On Terrel Thomas: "He only costs us a goal every 3rd or 4th game, plenty good enough for squad player. Verdict: Keep him!"
On Thierry Small: "Yes he can cover an entire flank singled handed, remains a threat even when doubled up on, and has loads of time and potential to get better, but sometimes he over hits his crosses. Verdict: Easily replaced - get rid!"
Is the point that people on an internet forum having different opinions about different players makes the entire forum and every view within it somehow hypocritical?
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I think you now get a development fee for any period of time.a player plays for you when they are U24 or something.I looked it up at its 0.25% of the fee a year if the mive is between associations and as determined between clubs if within the UK ir by tribunal if they cant agree but takes into account length of time registered at former club1
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Ok, so something which probably equates to naff all in real terms...🙄Alwaysneil said:I think you now get a development fee for any period of time.a player plays for you when they are U21 or sonething. So only a small percentage of the total years development.0 -
Yeah i edited my post after looking it up because i couldnt remember the details0
