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We were so good ....

mascot88
mascot88 Posts: 9,760
in General Charlton
After all these years I've finally been able to re watch the Prem years now the pain has evaporated - my word we were good. 

Absolutely fantastic football at times. 

The rebuilding of The Valley.

Curbishley driving all the growth.

Blooding the noses of everyone around us.

The rebuidling of these teams season after season. 

Some of goals are just unbelievable football - very high quality at times. 

So close to Europe a few times. 

I could just listen to Curbishley forever. 

These huge games for us - just wonderful. 

Oh the memories.


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  • Hal1x
    Hal1x Posts: 4,265
    edited January 6
    and yet he took us as far as he could, and we needed someone new to press on....but at least the grass was greener then.
  • Peter_G
    Peter_G Posts: 849
    Hal1x said:
    and yet he took us as far as he could, and we needed someone new to press on....but at least the grass was greener then.
    The grass was greener in more ways than one!
  • Mendonca In Asdas
    Mendonca In Asdas Posts: 22,708
    edited January 6
    Totally agree, I didn't realise how good Chris Powell was , until long after he had left us, they had a video playing in the club shop, and i'd forgotten little sojourns down the wing, and chips to the far post, to be nodded in.

    Kish or Kinsella completely taking an opponent out , Darren Bent running at lightspeed across the valley, (and that was only preseason!) to stick the ball in the net.

    JJ, what a finisher, the list goes on.

    I think i took it all a bit for granted, but saying that, i worked weekends, and the only reason i bought a season ticket, was because i knew i wouldn't get in the ground!
  • ShootersHillGuru
    ShootersHillGuru Posts: 50,676
    Always be grateful and proud of those years but to me at least it makes our current plight all the more painful. 
  • Swisdom
    Swisdom Posts: 14,980
    ShootersHillGuru said:
    Always be grateful and proud of those years but to me at least it makes our current plight all the more painful. 
    Alternatively, be grateful and proud of those years and know we can do it again.
    The comeback is greater than the setback
  • PopIcon
    PopIcon Posts: 5,970
    Swisdom said:
    ShootersHillGuru said:
    Always be grateful and proud of those years but to me at least it makes our current plight all the more painful. 
    Alternatively, be grateful and proud of those years and know we can do it again.
    The comeback is greater than the setback
    It won't happen again, not in our lifetimes. Let's just be happy they happened. 
  • SamB09
    SamB09 Posts: 901
    Hal1x said:
    and yet he took us as far as he could, and we needed someone new to press on....but at least the grass was greener then.
    Who would of taken us further without signifigant investment?
  • mascot88
    mascot88 Posts: 9,760
    I can finally watch it again without feeling acute pain. 

    We would outstanding! 

    So many fantastic moments.  


  • ShootersHillGuru
    ShootersHillGuru Posts: 50,676
    Swisdom said:
    ShootersHillGuru said:
    Always be grateful and proud of those years but to me at least it makes our current plight all the more painful. 
    Alternatively, be grateful and proud of those years and know we can do it again.
    The comeback is greater than the setback
    I’d love to believe that we will but the goalposts have moved in the intervening years. Unless you find a sugar daddy it’s virtually impossible to get on the boat now. We live in hope though.

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  • Chizz
    Chizz Posts: 28,462
    edited January 6

  • Pelling1993
    Pelling1993 Posts: 6,916
    Should never have sacked Curbishley should we?  ;)
  • AFKABartram
    AFKABartram Posts: 58,150
    Sadly feels a long time ago now. In my Facebook memories today from 2009 there’s a comment from @JohnBoyUK sarcastically talking with a Millwall mate about our demise. That ‘demise’ has since continued for another 16 years now and not showing any real sign of improving. 
  • Hal1x
    Hal1x Posts: 4,265
    Chunes said:
    Hal1x said:
    and yet he took us as far as he could, and we needed someone new to press on....but at least the grass was greener then.
    I don't think that was a view expressed by the wider fanbase at the time, thought it was just a few nutters phoning up Talksport.
    I think it was, it wasn't a view I shared personally but there was a definite undercurrent I think.
  • JohnBoyUK
    JohnBoyUK Posts: 9,125
    AFKABartram said:
    Sadly feels a long time ago now. In my Facebook memories today from 2009 there’s a comment from @JohnBoyUK sarcastically talking with a Millwall mate about our demise. That ‘demise’ has since continued for another 16 years now and not showing any real sign of improving. 
    Erm, wasn't you still in the PL then?  Or was that the first season back in the Championship?
    Only memory I have is the Berbatov goal in the game that banged the final nail in the relegation coffin but can't for the life of me remember when we sold him now. 

    But blimey, 16 years ago feels like a very long time ago now. 
  • MrLargo
    MrLargo Posts: 8,015
    JohnBoyUK said:
    AFKABartram said:
    Sadly feels a long time ago now. In my Facebook memories today from 2009 there’s a comment from @JohnBoyUK sarcastically talking with a Millwall mate about our demise. That ‘demise’ has since continued for another 16 years now and not showing any real sign of improving. 
    Erm, wasn't you still in the PL then?  Or was that the first season back in the Championship?
    Only memory I have is the Berbatov goal in the game that banged the final nail in the relegation coffin but can't for the life of me remember when we sold him now. 

    But blimey, 16 years ago feels like a very long time ago now. 
    Dropped from the Prem 06/07, dropped to League 1 08/09.
  • MrLargo
    MrLargo Posts: 8,015
    AFKABartram said:
    Looking back now I feel the Alan Pardew underperformance has gone a bit under the radar given time. 

    he failed to keep us up in the Prem, which was not fully his fault. However, he then failed to get us anywhere near play off contention the following season, and then was the architect of our relegation to L1 the following season. 

    Prem to L1 in just 2 years was an alarming fall for what should have been a stable club. Pardew didn’t just have to oversee a firesale that’s seen in some spiralling clubs, he was also well backed with numerous million pound + signings (Varney, McLeod, Zhi, Gray), what looks like now a very decent squad, and carte blanche to run the club how he liked, including stupid Feng Sui renovation of the training ground. 
    Much as I loathe the bloke, I thought he did well in the Prem - we looked dead and buried before he took over. Went down with 34 points, and 22 of them were earned under Pardew (he was in charge for 19 games, exactly half the season). Les Reed period was obviously a disaster, but Dowie squandered an absolute fortune in the summer. We can only dream of the signings Curbs would have made with £12m, but he definitely wouldn't have paid £2m each for Djimi Traore and Amdy Faye. 

    Was in contention in the Championship until Reid was sold, although play-off contention rather than top 2, so slightly under-achieving. After that, an absolute shambles. And he wasted a lot of money. Izale McLeod was a poor, expensive signing. When the funds ran out, he squandered what little he did have. £200k on Dean Sinclair from Barnet, who was never going to get anywhere near the first team, Stuart Fleetwood as well.

    That first relegation to League 1 felt like we'd hit rock bottom. Subsequently learned that rock bottom was a lot worse than that.
  • Friend Or Defoe
    Friend Or Defoe Posts: 18,182
    AFKABartram said:
    Looking back now I feel the Alan Pardew underperformance has gone a bit under the radar given time. 

    he failed to keep us up in the Prem, which was not fully his fault. However, he then failed to get us anywhere near play off contention the following season, and then was the architect of our relegation to L1 the following season. 

    Prem to L1 in just 2 years was an alarming fall for what should have been a stable club. Pardew didn’t just have to oversee a firesale that’s seen in some spiralling clubs, he was also well backed with numerous million pound + signings (Varney, McLeod, Zhi, Gray), what looks like now a very decent squad, and carte blanche to run the club how he liked, including stupid Feng Sui renovation of the training ground. 
    Disagree. The atmosphere was very poisonous during the end of Pardew's reign and he didn't receive the warmest of welcomes when he came back with Southampton! The fans were easy on Parkinson as we slid into League One knowing the damage had been done. 

    He then massively underperformed with Southampton, if there was no points deduction they would have still finished below us. He then gets a plumb job at Newcastle becauses football these days is pestilential.

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  • Karim_myBagheri
    Karim_myBagheri Posts: 13,171
    AFKABartram said:
    Looking back now I feel the Alan Pardew underperformance has gone a bit under the radar given time. 

    he failed to keep us up in the Prem, which was not fully his fault. However, he then failed to get us anywhere near play off contention the following season, and then was the architect of our relegation to L1 the following season. 

    Prem to L1 in just 2 years was an alarming fall for what should have been a stable club. Pardew didn’t just have to oversee a firesale that’s seen in some spiralling clubs, he was also well backed with numerous million pound + signings (Varney, McLeod, Zhi, Gray), what looks like now a very decent squad, and carte blanche to run the club how he liked, including stupid Feng Sui renovation of the training ground. 
    Bumped into him in the chaser shipbourne. He was with a couple of mates. Told him how disappointed I was with him as our manager. He just shrugged his shoulders. Then told him hope he fails at his job at palace. He smiled and said something about it being a better job than Charlton. Said is that because someone actually might like you as a person there? His rebuttal was lost in the sound of his loud mates and me walking away. 
  • lancashire lad
    lancashire lad Posts: 15,702
    don't forget Claus Jensen a cultured playmaker and that brill chip at the Arsenal, and yes Chris Powell was an outstanding wing back
  • AFKABartram
    AFKABartram Posts: 58,150
    Friend Or Defoe said:
    AFKABartram said:
    Looking back now I feel the Alan Pardew underperformance has gone a bit under the radar given time. 

    he failed to keep us up in the Prem, which was not fully his fault. However, he then failed to get us anywhere near play off contention the following season, and then was the architect of our relegation to L1 the following season. 

    Prem to L1 in just 2 years was an alarming fall for what should have been a stable club. Pardew didn’t just have to oversee a firesale that’s seen in some spiralling clubs, he was also well backed with numerous million pound + signings (Varney, McLeod, Zhi, Gray), what looks like now a very decent squad, and carte blanche to run the club how he liked, including stupid Feng Sui renovation of the training ground. 
    Disagree. The atmosphere was very poisonous during the end of Pardew's reign
    Fair enough, but the atmosphere was very poisonous as we were doing so badly! 

    We were one of the teams predicted for the promotion race that season.  Looking back I don’t think a squad with the likes of Weaver, Holland, Ambrose, Shelvey, Todorov, Bailey, Zhi, Hudson, Primus, Semedo, Youga, Gray, Varney etc should have been 22nd in the Championship at the end of November. Thst to me was underperforming and I think Pardew has to take a lot of responsibility for that.

    Anyway, it doesn’t really matter. Just another trip down another unhappy lane! 
  • Taxi_Lad
    Taxi_Lad Posts: 3,803
    edited January 6
    A conversation about our Orem years cannot by without a special mention to Scott Parker. Was simply outstanding!
  • IdleHans
    IdleHans Posts: 11,102
    AFKABartram said:
    Looking back now I feel the Alan Pardew underperformance has gone a bit under the radar given time. 

    he failed to keep us up in the Prem, which was not fully his fault. However, he then failed to get us anywhere near play off contention the following season, and then was the architect of our relegation to L1 the following season. 

    Prem to L1 in just 2 years was an alarming fall for what should have been a stable club. Pardew didn’t just have to oversee a firesale that’s seen in some spiralling clubs, he was also well backed with numerous million pound + signings (Varney, McLeod, Zhi, Gray), what looks like now a very decent squad, and carte blanche to run the club how he liked, including stupid Feng Sui renovation of the training ground. 
    There's something in that Feng Shui thing though. For example, if you put a Pardew in the manager's office it will bring many years of bad luck
  • Hal1x
    Hal1x Posts: 4,265
    IdleHans said:
    AFKABartram said:
    Looking back now I feel the Alan Pardew underperformance has gone a bit under the radar given time. 

    he failed to keep us up in the Prem, which was not fully his fault. However, he then failed to get us anywhere near play off contention the following season, and then was the architect of our relegation to L1 the following season. 

    Prem to L1 in just 2 years was an alarming fall for what should have been a stable club. Pardew didn’t just have to oversee a firesale that’s seen in some spiralling clubs, he was also well backed with numerous million pound + signings (Varney, McLeod, Zhi, Gray), what looks like now a very decent squad, and carte blanche to run the club how he liked, including stupid Feng Sui renovation of the training ground. 
    There's something in that Feng Shui thing though. For example, if you put a Pardew in the manager's office it will bring many years of bad luck
    I think it was something to do with his Feng Shui, he had to turn at a odd angle to get his over inflated head through the door.
  • cafc_se7
    cafc_se7 Posts: 2,309
    edited January 6
    I have said this to quite a few friends recently, but to be honest I’m not envious of the sides who are both newly promoted to the Prem and established teams who are punching above their weight like we once were (Fulham, Bournemouth etc).

    I am 37 and I have conceded that I probably won’t see it again in my lifetime but even if it did, the game has changed dramatically. 

    I for one, am just delighted that my beloved team chose to excel in an era when football was exciting to watch and players that weren’t even classed as ‘world class’ players were better than most premiership footballers of today….Zola, Di Canio. And of course it goes without saying some of the teams and individuals I watched live as a young teenager who were just absolutely brilliant (Henry, Bergkamp, Vieira, Beckham, Scholes, Giggs, Lampard etc).
  • Friend Or Defoe
    Friend Or Defoe Posts: 18,182
    Taxi_Lad said:
    A conversation about our Orem years cannot by without a special mention to Scott Parker. Was simply outstanding!
    Best player i've ever seen play for us. Amazing!
  • MrOneLung
    MrOneLung Posts: 27,091
    To be fair ‘Alan Pardew’s having a party’ was a great chant. 
  • mascot88
    mascot88 Posts: 9,760
    Just fantastic football - 

    The heights we got to were significant - the quality of staff and players was at such at high level. 

    An utter joy. 

    It's really strange I can finally enjoy it again - for years I couldn't watch any of it. 

    I'm at the acceptance stage of my grief :) 

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