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Wonder where you've ben. Hangover from the other threads.. no sock big enough...you keep pretending to be angry and I will just carry on with the workshop bants thsts stood me well for all these years.Rizzo said:
Tell you what Chippy, why don't you turn up to your next meeting, preferably one involving younger women you've never met before, wearing nothing but a sock over your cock. I'm sure everyone will be fine with it. Just 'bants' yeah?Chippycafc said:
No it's used by people who are sick anf tired of idiots who have nothing better to do all day who find trivial things to pretend to be angry about.ME14addick said:
Woke, a very overused word these days, to justify behaviour which is no longer acceptable.Chippycafc said:Instead of watching masterchef tonight. Switch over to that's TV and see till death us do part, benidorm and benny hill show.
Enjoy the times when people could laugh and not take life too seriously.
This fake anger woke nonsense has got to stop.
ffs...
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You are missing the key point - the people he "bullies" have signed up for it. Whether right or wrong, it's the nature of top end kitchens. You go into that profession knowing it. If you put your restaurant in front of him for inclusion in his content, then you know what you sign up for.kafka said:
Bullying (no inverted commas), racism, personal insults, that's what Ramsay trades off and we are all meant to find it amusing. Do you think this is ok and promotes his profession? Double standards going on here.SporadicAddick said:"Bullying" in a kitchen is quite different from inappropriate sexualisation of comments and physical actions that are unwarranted by the recipient.
If you work in a professional kitchen and the chef shouts, that's comes with the territory. Yes it will be upsetting for some, but you go into that end of the profession (and into a programme with Ramsay) knowing what's coming, and aware that the purpose is improvement.
The nature of 2G Greg's indiscretions are not about improvement, but potentially with another motivation, not anticipated by, nor signed up to by, the recipients.
Ben, you seriously surprise me(.Ben: Thank you chef) You surprise me in how shit you are.""Ah, fuck ME! SHIT! Bobby. I'm looking for someone to take control of this disgusting, embarrassing mess. He doesn't give a fuck, he's dreaming, he's standing there pissing his pants looking for his tartare caviar white chocolate crap, and he's just running around like a toilet brush! Is anyone gonna TAKE CONTROL?!"
"Fuck off, you fat useless sack of fucking yankee danky doodle shite"
"Would you mind taking your breasts off my hot plate? Yeah, look at that. How can I serve food with those fucking things there?"
"Overcooked on the bottom, crispy as fuck, and it looks like Gandhi's flip flop. What a shame"
Contestants don't go on Masterchef to hear Wallace make creepy statements about his sex life and his rape jokes.
It's fundamentally different...No double standards, just different standards depending on what you signed up for.4 -
Yeah I cant correlate the exaggerated stuff Gordon Ramsay does with the creepy, sex-case stuff anecdotally this sack of excrement has been up to. Its a behaviour I find rank to be honest as the first defence is always "That isn't what I meant" "I was only having a laugh" "its banter". No. Its creepy and suggestive, unsolicited creepiness. Its bad coming from anyone but especially from someone his age.
In the last decade we have had loads of women join what had traditionally been not only a male dominated workforce but a fairly toxic, and wannabe alpha environment too. And because of the Gregg Wallaces of this world I have spent most of today being patronised by an expensively educated horse molester telling me how to behave around the opposite sex.
Like, how about treating them as colleagues rather than the muppets who make slimy, gross remarks about how they fuck their wife. I’ve always called it out as selfishly it sickens me that type of chat and behaviour but also because I don't want to be part of a workplace like that. Things were a lot simpler when it was all blokes and genuine toxic masculinity was what we had to contend with or disgusting pranks, jokes and wind ups. Now Gregg, I can guarantee is the type of wanker that loves a wind up or a prank until it had him on the end of it, like all the wankers at work who try to bully others they turn tail, grass and bitch when someone gives it back to them.
Just a shame the BBC seems really keen on handling honest bad behaviour like Clarkson rightly or wrongly giving someone a slap or Danny Baker, they leapt, falsely on their moral high horse when he posted an innocent picture on twitter that was completely taken out of context and sacked him but behave like Huw Edwards, Gregg Wallace, Jimmy Saville, John Barrowman or Rolf Harris its a different game. They can't handle the worst sort of bully which is what people like Gregg Wallace are. The predatory, sneaky, slimy kind.7 -
Another band wagon jumper on.What utter bloocks.Chizz said:Melanie Sykes has revealed she made an informal complaint about Gregg Wallace, saying that having to work with him on Celebrity MasterChef in 2021 was the reason why she quit TV. "I said I didn’t want to make a formal complaint because I’d spend all my time in litigation and I think that is one of the reasons why people don’t go for it."Her comments came as Vanessa Feltz claimed that Wallace had, on first meeting a friend of hers, described in a BBC lift a sex act he had performed.
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So if it is proven does it stop being pathetic?greenwichred68 said:
ALLEGED so nothing is proven then? Until it is then as i said absolutely pathetic.Bournemouth Addick said:
I can't decide whether you're just looking for a response or genuinely don't understand why his behaviour has (finally) resulted in consequences for him and his career.greenwichred68 said:
Oh is that it? Absolutely pathetic.SporadicAddick said:
Stayed in the 1980’sgreenwichred68 said:Im a bit confused or just getting old but what exactly has Greg Wallace done thats wrong?
But, even if we ignore the decade plus history of inappropriate and unwelcome comments in the workplace (many to much junior colleagues), he's also alleged to have simulated sex acts on female workers on the show, touched up others and danced around the studio wearing only a sock over his knob.
I've no idea what your workplace is like, but I'm pretty sure, even back in the 1980's when I entered the workplace, this sort of thing would have been frowned upon as a minimum, let alone be excused as banter or woke nonsense some 40 years later.
This is not to say I don't muck about, take the mickey, make innuendos, etc. with colleagues myself. I do. It's just I'd never dream of doing it with a person I had no existing relationship with, if it placed them in an embarrassing or awkward situation or essentially abused the workplace power imbalance.1 -
Why would they script that sh1t? I now know why I mainly stick to sport.North Lower Neil said:
I'm guessing 99% of it isn't really though, it's scripted.KBslittlesis said:Never watched Ramsey as I just want to punch him every time I see him.
Tried to watch the series with him, the French guy & the Italian and couldn’t believe it was real.
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Bullying in the workplace is never acceptable, whatever the profession, nobody signs up to be bullied.1
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greenwichred68 said:
Another band wagon jumper on.What utter bloocks.Chizz said:Melanie Sykes has revealed she made an informal complaint about Gregg Wallace, saying that having to work with him on Celebrity MasterChef in 2021 was the reason why she quit TV. "I said I didn’t want to make a formal complaint because I’d spend all my time in litigation and I think that is one of the reasons why people don’t go for it."Her comments came as Vanessa Feltz claimed that Wallace had, on first meeting a friend of hers, described in a BBC lift a sex act he had performed.
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"Another band wagon jumper on". Is that where we are right now, as a society? One woman explains what happened to her and she's traduced by ill-informed members of the public seeking to diminish and reduce her story. Instead of being listened to and, yes, believed.
You obviously didn't bother to read the story linked in the post. Had you done so, you would have seen that Melanie Sykes' incident was published not today, not yesterday, but last year. So, how does that align with your suggestion that she's a "band wagon jumper on"? She published it in her autobiography. It's in print. And has been for some time.
More? OK. The post and the article explains that she didn't want to make a formal complaint because it would cost too much time in litigation. Is that what we want? Men acting however they want to, to denigrate, embarrass, harass and scare women, safe in the knowledge that their harmful actions won't be treated with seriousness and the complaints of the women will be ignored? In fact, worse than ignored: they will be criticised by people who are fact-free, but bigoted opinion heavy.
If you don't mind me saying - and, in fact, even if you do mind me saying - I think your comment does you no credit at all, is embarrassing and should be treated with disdain by men and women everywhere.
In short, I think what you have written is "utter bloocks".
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I would have thought that GR’s behaviour has had a worse mental effect on people over the years than the majority of GW’s behaviour however bad, distasteful and creepy that may be.ME14addick said:Bullying in the workplace is never acceptable, whatever the profession, nobody signs up to be bullied.0 -
Of course they don't but human behaviour is what it is. I personally detest bullies, I think its the behaviour of an inadequate but it goes onME14addick said:Bullying in the workplace is never acceptable, whatever the profession, nobody signs up to be bullied.1 -
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No way did she quit tv due to what Gregg Wallace did. Utter BOLLOCKS.Chizz said:greenwichred68 said:
Another band wagon jumper on.What utter bloocks.Chizz said:Melanie Sykes has revealed she made an informal complaint about Gregg Wallace, saying that having to work with him on Celebrity MasterChef in 2021 was the reason why she quit TV. "I said I didn’t want to make a formal complaint because I’d spend all my time in litigation and I think that is one of the reasons why people don’t go for it."Her comments came as Vanessa Feltz claimed that Wallace had, on first meeting a friend of hers, described in a BBC lift a sex act he had performed.
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"Another band wagon jumper on". Is that where we are right now, as a society? One woman explains what happened to her and she's traduced by ill-informed members of the public seeking to diminish and reduce her story. Instead of being listened to and, yes, believed.
You obviously didn't bother to read the story linked in the post. Had you done so, you would have seen that Melanie Sykes' incident was published not today, not yesterday, but last year. So, how does that align with your suggestion that she's a "band wagon jumper on"? She published it in her autobiography. It's in print. And has been for some time.
More? OK. The post and the article explains that she didn't want to make a formal complaint because it would cost too much time in litigation. Is that what we want? Men acting however they want to, to denigrate, embarrass, harass and scare women, safe in the knowledge that their harmful actions won't be treated with seriousness and the complaints of the women will be ignored? In fact, worse than ignored: they will be criticised by people who are fact-free, but bigoted opinion heavy.
If you don't mind me saying - and, in fact, even if you do mind me saying - I think your comment does you no credit at all, is embarrassing and should be treated with disdain by men and women everywhere.
In short, I think what you have written is "utter bloocks".
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Recently a new initiative by Kent Police was posted on a local Facebook page. The plan is for a plain clothed Police woman to walk along the streets and if she is subjected to lewd and abusive language, by men passing by in a vehicle, she will radio to colleagues, who will apprehend and charge the occupants. I was amazed at the number of men who thought this was entrapment, even when it was pointed out that if they didn't indulge in unacceptable behaviour, then they would face no action. The post was met with the usual comments of 'woke' and 'banter'.
Sadly, in 2024, there are many men who think it acceptable to abuse women and girls and pass it off as banter.3 -
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Wow. I’m quite shocked by this. I feel it’s entrapment too tbh.ME14addick said:Recently a new initiative by Kent Police was posted on a local Facebook page. The plan is for a plain clothed Police woman to walk along the streets and if she is subjected to lewd and abusive language, by men passing by in a vehicle, she will radio to colleagues, who will apprehend and charge the occupants. I was amazed at the number of men who thought this was entrapment, even when it was pointed out that if they didn't indulge in unacceptable behaviour, then they would face no action. The post was met with the usual comments of 'woke' and 'banter'.
Sadly, in 2024, there are many men who think it acceptable to abuse women and girls and pass it off as banter.4 -
Inclined to agree with this.EastTerrace said:
I would have thought that GR’s behaviour has had a worse mental effect on people over the years than the majority of GW’s behaviour however bad, distasteful and creepy that may be.ME14addick said:Bullying in the workplace is never acceptable, whatever the profession, nobody signs up to be bullied.
People don't go on Ramsey's show to be bullied, they go on there to try and make a name for themselves.
A lot like Jeremy Kyle, and let's not forget why that all ended...
2 G Greg deserves everything that's going to be thrown at him, but Kirsty Wark I think it was talked about feeling humiliated and I can completely understand why she feels that way.
The difference with Ramsey and Kyle is that they would humiliate you and then broadcast it to millions.
I do still feel like it's all been blown a bit out of proportion, but that's largely because 2G Greg missed a perfect opportunity to keep his mouth shut and is fueling the fire with his own stupidity.
He's just a neanderthal childish twat, they're ten a penny in that generation, most of them just don't get picked for television because they're too working class. If he touched my wife I'd punch him in the face (she'd probably break his nose first to be fair), but she's just said she would think he's "a weird sad little man" but wouldn't be offended at most of what he is claimed to have said. For both of us, the touching of people is what is completely unacceptable. I do agree though that when it comes to women feeling uncomfortable we need to go at the pace of the most sensitive, within reason, and Wallace undoubtedly has overstepped that line, habitually.
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That is entrapment thoughME14addick said:Recently a new initiative by Kent Police was posted on a local Facebook page. The plan is for a plain clothed Police woman to walk along the streets and if she is subjected to lewd and abusive language, by men passing by in a vehicle, she will radio to colleagues, who will apprehend and charge the occupants. I was amazed at the number of men who thought this was entrapment, even when it was pointed out that if they didn't indulge in unacceptable behaviour, then they would face no action. The post was met with the usual comments of 'woke' and 'banter'.
Sadly, in 2024, there are many men who think it acceptable to abuse women and girls and pass it off as banter.
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Agree, which is why I put "bullied". Is Lee Bowyer shouting at Johnny Williams bullying or part of the expected workplace discourse?ME14addick said:Bullying in the workplace is never acceptable, whatever the profession, nobody signs up to be bullied.1 -
I was wondering if she gave the true reason to why she quit tv at the time? Na probably not.So yeah its band wagon jumping.Chizz said:greenwichred68 said:
Another band wagon jumper on.What utter bloocks.Chizz said:Melanie Sykes has revealed she made an informal complaint about Gregg Wallace, saying that having to work with him on Celebrity MasterChef in 2021 was the reason why she quit TV. "I said I didn’t want to make a formal complaint because I’d spend all my time in litigation and I think that is one of the reasons why people don’t go for it."Her comments came as Vanessa Feltz claimed that Wallace had, on first meeting a friend of hers, described in a BBC lift a sex act he had performed.
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"Another band wagon jumper on". Is that where we are right now, as a society? One woman explains what happened to her and she's traduced by ill-informed members of the public seeking to diminish and reduce her story. Instead of being listened to and, yes, believed.
You obviously didn't bother to read the story linked in the post. Had you done so, you would have seen that Melanie Sykes' incident was published not today, not yesterday, but last year. So, how does that align with your suggestion that she's a "band wagon jumper on"? She published it in her autobiography. It's in print. And has been for some time.
More? OK. The post and the article explains that she didn't want to make a formal complaint because it would cost too much time in litigation. Is that what we want? Men acting however they want to, to denigrate, embarrass, harass and scare women, safe in the knowledge that their harmful actions won't be treated with seriousness and the complaints of the women will be ignored? In fact, worse than ignored: they will be criticised by people who are fact-free, but bigoted opinion heavy.
If you don't mind me saying - and, in fact, even if you do mind me saying - I think your comment does you no credit at all, is embarrassing and should be treated with disdain by men and women everywhere.
In short, I think what you have written is "utter bloocks".0 -
Why don’t you believe her?greenwichred68 said:
No way did she quit tv due to what Gregg Wallace did. Utter BOLLOCKS.Chizz said:greenwichred68 said:
Another band wagon jumper on.What utter bloocks.Chizz said:Melanie Sykes has revealed she made an informal complaint about Gregg Wallace, saying that having to work with him on Celebrity MasterChef in 2021 was the reason why she quit TV. "I said I didn’t want to make a formal complaint because I’d spend all my time in litigation and I think that is one of the reasons why people don’t go for it."Her comments came as Vanessa Feltz claimed that Wallace had, on first meeting a friend of hers, described in a BBC lift a sex act he had performed.
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"Another band wagon jumper on". Is that where we are right now, as a society? One woman explains what happened to her and she's traduced by ill-informed members of the public seeking to diminish and reduce her story. Instead of being listened to and, yes, believed.
You obviously didn't bother to read the story linked in the post. Had you done so, you would have seen that Melanie Sykes' incident was published not today, not yesterday, but last year. So, how does that align with your suggestion that she's a "band wagon jumper on"? She published it in her autobiography. It's in print. And has been for some time.
More? OK. The post and the article explains that she didn't want to make a formal complaint because it would cost too much time in litigation. Is that what we want? Men acting however they want to, to denigrate, embarrass, harass and scare women, safe in the knowledge that their harmful actions won't be treated with seriousness and the complaints of the women will be ignored? In fact, worse than ignored: they will be criticised by people who are fact-free, but bigoted opinion heavy.
If you don't mind me saying - and, in fact, even if you do mind me saying - I think your comment does you no credit at all, is embarrassing and should be treated with disdain by men and women everywhere.
In short, I think what you have written is "utter bloocks".
You do realise who she is?
This tw@t was probably the straw that broke the camels back.
You're making yourself look like an arse quite frankly.6 -
I don't see how it is entrapment, the policewoman will be walking along a street just like any other woman. If a man in a car chooses to shout lewd or abusive comments, the that is on them.Arsenetatters said:
Wow. I’m quite shocked by this. I feel it’s entrapment too tbh.ME14addick said:Recently a new initiative by Kent Police was posted on a local Facebook page. The plan is for a plain clothed Police woman to walk along the streets and if she is subjected to lewd and abusive language, by men passing by in a vehicle, she will radio to colleagues, who will apprehend and charge the occupants. I was amazed at the number of men who thought this was entrapment, even when it was pointed out that if they didn't indulge in unacceptable behaviour, then they would face no action. The post was met with the usual comments of 'woke' and 'banter'.
Sadly, in 2024, there are many men who think it acceptable to abuse women and girls and pass it off as banter.
I saw a piece on tv the other week, where a woman who goes out jogging is subjected to comments from men she does not know, on almost a daily basis. That can't be right.2 - Sponsored links:
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Well Philip Schofield got cast away.clb74 said:
Thing is.kafka said:I agree, it's not the same and Wallace deserves everything coming his way. There is an overlap of behaviour though
What's coming his way?
If you do face 4 charges of touching 4 people up, what's the maximum sentence you'd receive?1 -
Tbh it’s no different then sending any undercover cop out to catch someone selling drugs, committing robbery etcME14addick said:
I don't see how it is entrapment, the policewoman will be walking along a street just like any other woman. If a man in a car chooses to shout lewd or abusive comments, the that is on them.Arsenetatters said:
Wow. I’m quite shocked by this. I feel it’s entrapment too tbh.ME14addick said:Recently a new initiative by Kent Police was posted on a local Facebook page. The plan is for a plain clothed Police woman to walk along the streets and if she is subjected to lewd and abusive language, by men passing by in a vehicle, she will radio to colleagues, who will apprehend and charge the occupants. I was amazed at the number of men who thought this was entrapment, even when it was pointed out that if they didn't indulge in unacceptable behaviour, then they would face no action. The post was met with the usual comments of 'woke' and 'banter'.
Sadly, in 2024, there are many men who think it acceptable to abuse women and girls and pass it off as banter.
I saw a piece on tv the other week, where a woman who goes out jogging is subjected to comments from men she does not know, on almost a daily basis. That can't be right.
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... and doing an incredibly good job of it.KBslittlesis said:
Why don’t you believe her?greenwichred68 said:
No way did she quit tv due to what Gregg Wallace did. Utter BOLLOCKS.Chizz said:greenwichred68 said:
Another band wagon jumper on.What utter bloocks.Chizz said:Melanie Sykes has revealed she made an informal complaint about Gregg Wallace, saying that having to work with him on Celebrity MasterChef in 2021 was the reason why she quit TV. "I said I didn’t want to make a formal complaint because I’d spend all my time in litigation and I think that is one of the reasons why people don’t go for it."Her comments came as Vanessa Feltz claimed that Wallace had, on first meeting a friend of hers, described in a BBC lift a sex act he had performed.
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"Another band wagon jumper on". Is that where we are right now, as a society? One woman explains what happened to her and she's traduced by ill-informed members of the public seeking to diminish and reduce her story. Instead of being listened to and, yes, believed.
You obviously didn't bother to read the story linked in the post. Had you done so, you would have seen that Melanie Sykes' incident was published not today, not yesterday, but last year. So, how does that align with your suggestion that she's a "band wagon jumper on"? She published it in her autobiography. It's in print. And has been for some time.
More? OK. The post and the article explains that she didn't want to make a formal complaint because it would cost too much time in litigation. Is that what we want? Men acting however they want to, to denigrate, embarrass, harass and scare women, safe in the knowledge that their harmful actions won't be treated with seriousness and the complaints of the women will be ignored? In fact, worse than ignored: they will be criticised by people who are fact-free, but bigoted opinion heavy.
If you don't mind me saying - and, in fact, even if you do mind me saying - I think your comment does you no credit at all, is embarrassing and should be treated with disdain by men and women everywhere.
In short, I think what you have written is "utter bloocks".
You do realise who she is?
This tw@t was probably the straw that broke the camels back.
You're making yourself look like an arse quite frankly.
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One of those characters who give me the urge to change channel whenever they're on. Others are Michael McIntyre, and that pub chef who now advertises poncy produce, not that I have anything against them, but they make my scales crawl and I just don't see what it is they have that makes them celebrities warranting air time, BUT I know many do. Still, it wouldn't do if we all saw the world and the characters in it the same way. I mean, we don't always see eye to eye on here for starters.
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Well, you seem very well informed. She's said she finally decided to quit TV after taking part in Celebrity MasterChef. She was critical of the co-host Gregg Wallace, who she said told her the show would "do a lot for you", but actually it made her "decide to end my television career once and for all. I was done."greenwichred68 said:
No way did she quit tv due to what Gregg Wallace did. Utter BOLLOCKS.Chizz said:greenwichred68 said:
Another band wagon jumper on.What utter bloocks.Chizz said:Melanie Sykes has revealed she made an informal complaint about Gregg Wallace, saying that having to work with him on Celebrity MasterChef in 2021 was the reason why she quit TV. "I said I didn’t want to make a formal complaint because I’d spend all my time in litigation and I think that is one of the reasons why people don’t go for it."Her comments came as Vanessa Feltz claimed that Wallace had, on first meeting a friend of hers, described in a BBC lift a sex act he had performed.
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"Another band wagon jumper on". Is that where we are right now, as a society? One woman explains what happened to her and she's traduced by ill-informed members of the public seeking to diminish and reduce her story. Instead of being listened to and, yes, believed.
You obviously didn't bother to read the story linked in the post. Had you done so, you would have seen that Melanie Sykes' incident was published not today, not yesterday, but last year. So, how does that align with your suggestion that she's a "band wagon jumper on"? She published it in her autobiography. It's in print. And has been for some time.
More? OK. The post and the article explains that she didn't want to make a formal complaint because it would cost too much time in litigation. Is that what we want? Men acting however they want to, to denigrate, embarrass, harass and scare women, safe in the knowledge that their harmful actions won't be treated with seriousness and the complaints of the women will be ignored? In fact, worse than ignored: they will be criticised by people who are fact-free, but bigoted opinion heavy.
If you don't mind me saying - and, in fact, even if you do mind me saying - I think your comment does you no credit at all, is embarrassing and should be treated with disdain by men and women everywhere.
In short, I think what you have written is "utter bloocks".
But, apparently you know her motives better than she does.
So, please feel free to share what you know about her, how you know her and what was her motivation for leaving TV.1 -
2021 she quit tv.She could of said something then.No il wait 3 years till 2024.Utter tosh.Wasnt there a rumour that she quit tv was because of Keith Lemmon? As for making an arse of myself na i dont think i am.KBslittlesis said:
Why don’t you believe her?greenwichred68 said:
No way did she quit tv due to what Gregg Wallace did. Utter BOLLOCKS.Chizz said:greenwichred68 said:
Another band wagon jumper on.What utter bloocks.Chizz said:Melanie Sykes has revealed she made an informal complaint about Gregg Wallace, saying that having to work with him on Celebrity MasterChef in 2021 was the reason why she quit TV. "I said I didn’t want to make a formal complaint because I’d spend all my time in litigation and I think that is one of the reasons why people don’t go for it."Her comments came as Vanessa Feltz claimed that Wallace had, on first meeting a friend of hers, described in a BBC lift a sex act he had performed.
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"Another band wagon jumper on". Is that where we are right now, as a society? One woman explains what happened to her and she's traduced by ill-informed members of the public seeking to diminish and reduce her story. Instead of being listened to and, yes, believed.
You obviously didn't bother to read the story linked in the post. Had you done so, you would have seen that Melanie Sykes' incident was published not today, not yesterday, but last year. So, how does that align with your suggestion that she's a "band wagon jumper on"? She published it in her autobiography. It's in print. And has been for some time.
More? OK. The post and the article explains that she didn't want to make a formal complaint because it would cost too much time in litigation. Is that what we want? Men acting however they want to, to denigrate, embarrass, harass and scare women, safe in the knowledge that their harmful actions won't be treated with seriousness and the complaints of the women will be ignored? In fact, worse than ignored: they will be criticised by people who are fact-free, but bigoted opinion heavy.
If you don't mind me saying - and, in fact, even if you do mind me saying - I think your comment does you no credit at all, is embarrassing and should be treated with disdain by men and women everywhere.
In short, I think what you have written is "utter bloocks".
You do realise who she is?
This tw@t was probably the straw that broke the camels back.
You're making yourself look like an arse quite frankly.7 -
bobmunro said:
... and doing an incredibly good job of it.bobmunro said:KBslittlesis said:
Why don’t you believe her?greenwichred68 said:
No way did she quit tv due to what Gregg Wallace did. Utter BOLLOCKS.Chizz said:greenwichred68 said:
Another band wagon jumper on.What utter bloocks.Chizz said:Melanie Sykes has revealed she made an informal complaint about Gregg Wallace, saying that having to work with him on Celebrity MasterChef in 2021 was the reason why she quit TV. "I said I didn’t want to make a formal complaint because I’d spend all my time in litigation and I think that is one of the reasons why people don’t go for it."Her comments came as Vanessa Feltz claimed that Wallace had, on first meeting a friend of hers, described in a BBC lift a sex act he had performed.
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"Another band wagon jumper on". Is that where we are right now, as a society? One woman explains what happened to her and she's traduced by ill-informed members of the public seeking to diminish and reduce her story. Instead of being listened to and, yes, believed.
You obviously didn't bother to read the story linked in the post. Had you done so, you would have seen that Melanie Sykes' incident was published not today, not yesterday, but last year. So, how does that align with your suggestion that she's a "band wagon jumper on"? She published it in her autobiography. It's in print. And has been for some time.
More? OK. The post and the article explains that she didn't want to make a formal complaint because it would cost too much time in litigation. Is that what we want? Men acting however they want to, to denigrate, embarrass, harass and scare women, safe in the knowledge that their harmful actions won't be treated with seriousness and the complaints of the women will be ignored? In fact, worse than ignored: they will be criticised by people who are fact-free, but bigoted opinion heavy.
If you don't mind me saying - and, in fact, even if you do mind me saying - I think your comment does you no credit at all, is embarrassing and should be treated with disdain by men and women everywhere.
In short, I think what you have written is "utter bloocks".
You do realise who she is?
This tw@t was probably the straw that broke the camels back.
You're making yourself look like an arse quite frankly.
How am.i? Explain please?
... and doing an incredibly good job of it.KBslittlesis said:
Why don’t you believe her?greenwichred68 said:
No way did she quit tv due to what Gregg Wallace did. Utter BOLLOCKS.Chizz said:greenwichred68 said:
Another band wagon jumper on.What utter bloocks.Chizz said:Melanie Sykes has revealed she made an informal complaint about Gregg Wallace, saying that having to work with him on Celebrity MasterChef in 2021 was the reason why she quit TV. "I said I didn’t want to make a formal complaint because I’d spend all my time in litigation and I think that is one of the reasons why people don’t go for it."Her comments came as Vanessa Feltz claimed that Wallace had, on first meeting a friend of hers, described in a BBC lift a sex act he had performed.
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"Another band wagon jumper on". Is that where we are right now, as a society? One woman explains what happened to her and she's traduced by ill-informed members of the public seeking to diminish and reduce her story. Instead of being listened to and, yes, believed.
You obviously didn't bother to read the story linked in the post. Had you done so, you would have seen that Melanie Sykes' incident was published not today, not yesterday, but last year. So, how does that align with your suggestion that she's a "band wagon jumper on"? She published it in her autobiography. It's in print. And has been for some time.
More? OK. The post and the article explains that she didn't want to make a formal complaint because it would cost too much time in litigation. Is that what we want? Men acting however they want to, to denigrate, embarrass, harass and scare women, safe in the knowledge that their harmful actions won't be treated with seriousness and the complaints of the women will be ignored? In fact, worse than ignored: they will be criticised by people who are fact-free, but bigoted opinion heavy.
If you don't mind me saying - and, in fact, even if you do mind me saying - I think your comment does you no credit at all, is embarrassing and should be treated with disdain by men and women everywhere.
In short, I think what you have written is "utter bloocks".
You do realise who she is?
This tw@t was probably the straw that broke the camels back.
You're making yourself look like an arse quite frankly.0 -
This will need to be carefully considered, for example how will the police woman be dressed because you say she will be walking along just like any other woman however if she is done up to the nines especially on a winter’s day I would say entrapment could come into playME14addick said:
I don't see how it is entrapment, the policewoman will be walking along a street just like any other woman. If a man in a car chooses to shout lewd or abusive comments, the that is on them.Arsenetatters said:
Wow. I’m quite shocked by this. I feel it’s entrapment too tbh.ME14addick said:Recently a new initiative by Kent Police was posted on a local Facebook page. The plan is for a plain clothed Police woman to walk along the streets and if she is subjected to lewd and abusive language, by men passing by in a vehicle, she will radio to colleagues, who will apprehend and charge the occupants. I was amazed at the number of men who thought this was entrapment, even when it was pointed out that if they didn't indulge in unacceptable behaviour, then they would face no action. The post was met with the usual comments of 'woke' and 'banter'.
Sadly, in 2024, there are many men who think it acceptable to abuse women and girls and pass it off as banter.
I saw a piece on tv the other week, where a woman who goes out jogging is subjected to comments from men she does not know, on almost a daily basis. That can't be right.1 -
I understand Melanie Sykes reported this a while ago but didn't want it taken any further at that time. A common reason cited for women failing to report sexual assault is the fear of them not being believed, and sadly there are still many (mainly men) whose first reaction is 'she's a liar'. You are the perfect embodiment of that.greenwichred68 said:
2021 she quit tv.She could of said something then.No il wait 3 years till 2024.Utter tosh.Wasnt there a rumour that she quit tv was because of Keith Lemmon? As for making an arse of myself na i dont think i am.KBslittlesis said:
Why don’t you believe her?greenwichred68 said:
No way did she quit tv due to what Gregg Wallace did. Utter BOLLOCKS.Chizz said:greenwichred68 said:
Another band wagon jumper on.What utter bloocks.Chizz said:Melanie Sykes has revealed she made an informal complaint about Gregg Wallace, saying that having to work with him on Celebrity MasterChef in 2021 was the reason why she quit TV. "I said I didn’t want to make a formal complaint because I’d spend all my time in litigation and I think that is one of the reasons why people don’t go for it."Her comments came as Vanessa Feltz claimed that Wallace had, on first meeting a friend of hers, described in a BBC lift a sex act he had performed.
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"Another band wagon jumper on". Is that where we are right now, as a society? One woman explains what happened to her and she's traduced by ill-informed members of the public seeking to diminish and reduce her story. Instead of being listened to and, yes, believed.
You obviously didn't bother to read the story linked in the post. Had you done so, you would have seen that Melanie Sykes' incident was published not today, not yesterday, but last year. So, how does that align with your suggestion that she's a "band wagon jumper on"? She published it in her autobiography. It's in print. And has been for some time.
More? OK. The post and the article explains that she didn't want to make a formal complaint because it would cost too much time in litigation. Is that what we want? Men acting however they want to, to denigrate, embarrass, harass and scare women, safe in the knowledge that their harmful actions won't be treated with seriousness and the complaints of the women will be ignored? In fact, worse than ignored: they will be criticised by people who are fact-free, but bigoted opinion heavy.
If you don't mind me saying - and, in fact, even if you do mind me saying - I think your comment does you no credit at all, is embarrassing and should be treated with disdain by men and women everywhere.
In short, I think what you have written is "utter bloocks".
You do realise who she is?
This tw@t was probably the straw that broke the camels back.
You're making yourself look like an arse quite frankly.
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This will need to be carefully considered, for example how will the police woman be dressed because you say she will be walking along just like any other woman however if she is done up to the nines especially on a winter’s day I would say entrapment could come into playME14addick said:
I don't see how it is entrapment, the policewoman will be walking along a street just like any other woman. If a man in a car chooses to shout lewd or abusive comments, the that is on them.Arsenetatters said:
Wow. I’m quite shocked by this. I feel it’s entrapment too tbh.ME14addick said:Recently a new initiative by Kent Police was posted on a local Facebook page. The plan is for a plain clothed Police woman to walk along the streets and if she is subjected to lewd and abusive language, by men passing by in a vehicle, she will radio to colleagues, who will apprehend and charge the occupants. I was amazed at the number of men who thought this was entrapment, even when it was pointed out that if they didn't indulge in unacceptable behaviour, then they would face no action. The post was met with the usual comments of 'woke' and 'banter'.
Sadly, in 2024, there are many men who think it acceptable to abuse women and girls and pass it off as banter.
I saw a piece on tv the other week, where a woman who goes out jogging is subjected to comments from men she does not know, on almost a daily basis. That can't be right.The initiative by Kent Police does not meet the legal definition of entrapment.
Entrapment occurs when law enforcement induces or coerces someone to commit a crime they would not have otherwise committed. The key element of entrapment is that the person was not predisposed to commit the offence but was persuaded or pressured into doing so by law enforcement.
In the case of the policewoman walking in plain clothes, she is not encouraging, inciting, or pressuring anyone to engage in lewd or abusive behaviour. Instead, she is acting as a passive observer, creating an opportunity to detect and respond to unlawful behaviour that individuals choose to commit on their own. If someone makes the choice to direct inappropriate comments at her, they are engaging in behaviour they would likely have done regardless of the officer's presence.
Ultimately, the initiative is about enforcing existing laws and protecting individuals from abusive behaviour, not coercing anyone into unlawful acts.
If it works, and it results in men being prosecuted, then good. And if men in Kent think they might fall foul of what they consider (wrongly) to be entrapment and decide to counter this by changing their behaviour, then very good.
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