Former ref David Coote - charged with possession of CSA material (p14)
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He's fortunate to live on our part of planet Earth where boring people also live side by side with the party people.arny23394 said:
You might possibly be the most boring person on planet earthME14addick said:
It's an illegal Class A drug.CAFCsayer said:Not sure why he is getting ostracised for a bit of gear. I think half the refs at The Valley this season have been on ket judging by their performances
If David Cootes allows himself to be compromised in this manner may be he is not suitable to be refereeing. What people do in their private lives I don't really care too much about until it impacts on others. If you have a job where someone may want to exploit or blackmail you through a video or leak stories to the gutter press its my view you have crossed a lined, (or maybe snorted). There are plenty of jobs and professions where there is zero tolerance to drug taking and or putting your employer or your profession into disrepute.
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It may be boring to be reminded of the effects of using cocaine, but this is what the NHS Scotland says about it.
Cocaine
Cocaine (hydrochloride) is a highly addictive drug. It acts as a short lived central nervous system stimulant and local anaesthetic.
It’s extracted from the leaves of coca plants and is usually snorted.
Crack cocaine is the smokable form of the drug and comes as crystals known as rocks or stones. Crack and cocaine powder can be injected but doing this is linked to many harmful effects.
Effects of cocaine
Common effects of cocaine include:
- anxiety
- confidence
- dilated pupils
- energy
- euphoria
- increased heart rate
- paranoia
- restlessness
Long term effects of using cocaine
Longer term effects of using cocaine can include:
- dependency
- damage to the heart
- mood swings
- poor sleeping patterns
- impotence
- malnutrition due to suppressed appetite
- difficulties manging your mental health which may affect mental health conditions
- damage to the lips, mouth and lungs caused by smoking cocaine
- needle-related injuries like infections and, in extreme cases, amputation of limbs
Soft tissue damage
When snorted, cocaine causes the blood vessels to contract. This reduces blood flow to the nose. Repeated use can then damage the nasal structure and tissues. This can cause holes or perforations in the septum (the cartilage between the nostrils).
Common cocaine cutting agents, like levamisole, can also cause soft tissue damage. This includes rashes, wounds and skin damage.
If left untreated this damage can be irreparable so it’s important to speak to your GP as soon as problems arise.
Risks of mixing cocaine with other substances
Using alcohol and cocaine together has a bigger risk. They mix together in the body to produce a toxic chemical called cocaethylene. This affects the cardiovascular system and increases the risk of overdose.
Using heroin with cocaine has a much greater risk. This can increase the likelihood of an overdose. Each drug puts a lot of pressure on the central nervous system and the heart. This can result in respiratory failure.
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Just Say No5
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As next week is road safety week, it doesn't hurt to be reminded of the toll of drug & drink driving:
https://www.brake.org.uk/get-involved/take-action/mybrake/knowledge-centre/drug-driving
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Shocking judgement to be snorting coke during a tournament, when he was paid by UEFA and in UEFA accommodation.
It gives the impression of treating it as a bit of a lads holiday.7 -
Someone really is out to get him here, what with the way this is all being drip fed
Referee David Coote 'tried to organise drugs party' before Tottenham vs Man City game while fourth official | TalkSPORT1 -
Thats a lot easier to say than to do. I read somewhere, a drug taker can tell you the first time he took drugs but cant tell you the last time. I was never addicted to anything, (other than being an Addick). I can actually say the last time I did anything other than alcohol, which I will be doing later today as its Friday. About 35 years ago being the last, Amsterdam on a stag night. I bought half a dozen space cakes for my friends who actually did say no, (they were on other stuff, not abstaining). I had choice, bin them or eat them. I choose the latter, scoffed the lot in short order and buzzed about for hours. Fast forward 20 odd years drinking in a bar one of my friends tells the stories to a few others. Unfortunately my teenage son was there to hear about his dads, (ME), not so perfect past. This in turn was used against me by son in a little talk in front of my wife who also had no idea of some of the sillier things I wanted to keep from them.shirty5 said:Just Say No
Very difficult for me to take the high ground, (no pun intended) with those two nowadays, although I am now very anti drugs for a variety of good reasons.
Cootes may have a valid point about Klopp but no one will ever ask Coote his opinion now.
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The problem with coke is it's so popular that it's practically socially acceptable in a lot of circles, particularly areas where Charlton draws it's support from. It's also addictive.
In my experience the majority of users will probably do a gram or a half on a night out every now and again, splitting a packet with mates and never get hooked. There are also a lot of people there with addictions without realising it. There's also the junk people cut it up with that's worse than the coke itself. It's more of a danger than a lot of people realise. From the video you can't tell if he has an addiction IMO.
I can see the FA making an example out of him. I doubt he'll want to ref again anyway tbh.3 -
I become an Addict in the mid 60s.
Despite the huge amounts of money I've spent over the years I still can’t kick the habit.
Bloody Charlton15 -
Not sure why a post pointing out the harms of taking a Class A drug attracts lols, as it's a serious matter.
David Coote is in a job where you need to have full control of your decision making, taking mind altering drugs is a stupid and reckless thing to do.9 - Sponsored links:
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Is there any job you should be doing under the influence of drugs?ME14addick said:Not sure why a post pointing out the harms of taking a Class A drug attracts lols, as it's a serious matter.
David Coote is in a job where you need to have full control of your decision making, taking mind altering drugs is a stupid and reckless thing to do.2 -
Brain surgeonclb74 said:
Is there any job you should be doing under the influence of drugs?ME14addick said:Not sure why a post pointing out the harms of taking a Class A drug attracts lols, as it's a serious matter.
David Coote is in a job where you need to have full control of your decision making, taking mind altering drugs is a stupid and reckless thing to do.2 -
Quality Control?clb74 said:
Is there any job you should be doing under the influence of drugs?ME14addick said:Not sure why a post pointing out the harms of taking a Class A drug attracts lols, as it's a serious matter.
David Coote is in a job where you need to have full control of your decision making, taking mind altering drugs is a stupid and reckless thing to do.2 -
Drug testerclb74 said:
Is there any job you should be doing under the influence of drugs?ME14addick said:Not sure why a post pointing out the harms of taking a Class A drug attracts lols, as it's a serious matter.
David Coote is in a job where you need to have full control of your decision making, taking mind altering drugs is a stupid and reckless thing to do.20 -
Charlton Life Forum administrator.clb74 said:
Is there any job you should be doing under the influence of drugs?ME14addick said:Not sure why a post pointing out the harms of taking a Class A drug attracts lols, as it's a serious matter.
David Coote is in a job where you need to have full control of your decision making, taking mind altering drugs is a stupid and reckless thing to do.21 -
I would imagine it's because it's a thread about a ref who clearly gets on it from time to time and will likely lose his job. Posting a lengthy message telling people the effects of cocaine as well as things like "using alcohol and cocaine together has a bigger risk" and that "using heroin with cocaine has a much greater risk" is probably pretty obvious to anyone over the age of 12.ME14addick said:Not sure why a post pointing out the harms of taking a Class A drug attracts lols, as it's a serious matter.
David Coote is in a job where you need to have full control of your decision making, taking mind altering drugs is a stupid and reckless thing to do.
Everyone on here is an adult and can make their own choices. There's risks with anything in life, whether that's taking drugs, drinking alcohol, gambling, eating fried food or crossing a busy road.8 -
ME14addick said:It may be boring to be reminded of the effects of using cocaine, but this is what the NHS Scotland says about it.
Cocaine
Cocaine (hydrochloride) is a highly addictive drug. It acts as a short lived central nervous system stimulant and local anaesthetic.
It’s extracted from the leaves of coca plants and is usually snorted.
Crack cocaine is the smokable form of the drug and comes as crystals known as rocks or stones. Crack and cocaine powder can be injected but doing this is linked to many harmful effects.
Effects of cocaine
Common effects of cocaine include:
- anxiety
- confidence
- dilated pupils
- energy
- euphoria
- increased heart rate
- paranoia
- restlessness
Long term effects of using cocaine
Longer term effects of using cocaine can include:
- dependency
- damage to the heart
- mood swings
- poor sleeping patterns
- impotence
- malnutrition due to suppressed appetite
- difficulties manging your mental health which may affect mental health conditions
- damage to the lips, mouth and lungs caused by smoking cocaine
- needle-related injuries like infections and, in extreme cases, amputation of limbs
Soft tissue damage
When snorted, cocaine causes the blood vessels to contract. This reduces blood flow to the nose. Repeated use can then damage the nasal structure and tissues. This can cause holes or perforations in the septum (the cartilage between the nostrils).
Common cocaine cutting agents, like levamisole, can also cause soft tissue damage. This includes rashes, wounds and skin damage.
If left untreated this damage can be irreparable so it’s important to speak to your GP as soon as problems arise.
Risks of mixing cocaine with other substances
Using alcohol and cocaine together has a bigger risk. They mix together in the body to produce a toxic chemical called cocaethylene. This affects the cardiovascular system and increases the risk of overdose.
Using heroin with cocaine has a much greater risk. This can increase the likelihood of an overdose. Each drug puts a lot of pressure on the central nervous system and the heart. This can result in respiratory failure.
Why is this worthy of LOL's 🤔
Are you shit faced at the moment?
As I said you may be the lucky ones or you may end up laying in your own shit and vomit and clog up the NHS.
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I heard he once went 75 on the motorway.
Anyone have documentation on the dangers to other road users please?7 -
I would suggest that if this is true it's more than an occasional thing and more of an issue as it's affecting his job. If that is the case, he needs help but I doubt he will receive it
https://www.football365.com/news/david-coote-travelodge-drugs-party-half-time-spurs-man-city
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This is what the US department of Transportation says about it.MrOneLung said:I heard he once went 75 on the motorway.
Anyone have documentation on the dangers to other road users please?The IssueDangers of Speeding
TRAFFIC SAFETY FACTS & DATA PUBLICATIONSSpeedingFor more than two decades, speeding has been involved in approximately one-third of all motor vehicle fatalities. In 2022, speeding was a contributing factor in 29% of all traffic fatalities.
Speed also affects your safety even when you are driving at the speed limit but too fast for road conditions, such as during bad weather, when a road is under repair, or in an area at night that isn’t well lit.
Speeding endangers not only the life of the speeder, but all of the people on the road around them, including law enforcement officers. It is a problem we all need to help solve.
The IssueConsequences
Speeding is more than just breaking the law. The consequences are far-ranging:
- Greater potential for loss of vehicle control;
- Reduced effectiveness of occupant protection equipment;
- Increased stopping distance after the driver perceives a danger;
- Increased degree of crash severity leading to more severe injuries;
- Economic implications of a speed-related crash; and
- Increased fuel consumption/cost.
The IssueWhat Drives Speeding?
Related TopicsDistracted DrivingDrunk DrivingSpeeding is a type of aggressive driving behavior. Several factors have contributed to an overall rise in aggressive driving:
Traffic
Traffic congestion is one of the most frequently mentioned contributing factors to aggressive driving, such as speeding. Drivers may respond by using aggressive driving behaviors, including speeding, changing lanes frequently, or becoming angry at anyone who they believe impedes their progress.
Running Late
Some people drive aggressively because they have too much to do and are “running late” for work, school, their next meeting, lesson, soccer game, or other appointment.
Anonymity
A motor vehicle insulates the driver from the world. Shielded from the outside environment, a driver can develop a sense of detachment, as if an observer of their surroundings, rather than a participant. This can lead to some people feeling less constrained in their behavior when they cannot be seen by others and/or when it is unlikely that they will ever again see those who witness their behavior.
Disregard for Others and For the Law
Most motorists rarely drive aggressively, and some never do. For others, episodes of aggressive driving are frequent, and for a small proportion of motorists it is their usual driving behavior. Occasional episodes of aggressive driving–such as speeding and changing lanes abruptly–might occur in response to specific situations, like when the driver is late for an important appointment, but is not the driver’s normal behavior.
If it seems that there are more cases of rude and outrageous behavior on the road now than in the past, the observation is correct—if for no other reason than there are more drivers driving more miles on the same roads than ever before.
The IssueDealing with Speeding and Aggressive Drivers
Speeding behavior and aggressive drivers may not only affect the speeder—it can also affect other drivers, pedestrians, and bicyclists. Here are some tips for encountering speeders on the road:
- If you are in the left lane and someone wants to pass, move over and let them by.
- Give speeding drivers plenty of space. Speeding drivers may lose control of their vehicle more easily.
- Adjust your driving accordingly. Speeding is tied to aggressive driving. If a speeding driver is tailgating you or trying to engage you in risky driving, use judgment to safely steer your vehicle out of the way.
- Call the police if you believe a driver is following you or harassing you.
NHTSA In ActionNHTSA is dedicated to eliminating risky behaviors on our nation’s roads
NHTSA works with the Federal Motor Carrier Safety Administration and the Federal Highway Administration to provide the roadmap, tools, guidance, and resources for state and local governments to use in designing and applying a balanced and effective speed management program. Speed management involves the following:
- Defining the relationship between speed, speeding, and safety.
- Applying road design and engineering measures to obtain appropriate speeds.
- Setting speed limits that are safe and reasonable.
- Applying enforcement efforts and appropriate technology that effectively target crash-producing speeders and deter speeding.
- Effectively marketing communication and educational messages that focus on high-risk drivers.
- Soliciting the cooperation, support, and leadership of traffic safety stakeholders.
To promote this strategy, NHTSA delivers a Speed Management Program course to state and local jurisdictions. The course uses a multidisciplinary approach to address speeding problems in states and local communities.
NHTSA also provides training to law enforcement officers on the use of speed-measuring devices (i.e., radar and lidar) in order to identify and take enforcement action against speeding drivers.
Finally, NHTSA works with national law enforcement partners, including the International Association of Chiefs of Police, the National Sheriffs’ Association, the National Organization of Black Law Enforcement Executives, and the International Association of Directors of Law Enforcement to heighten awareness of the speeding problem in the United States and deliver effective enforcement countermeasures to combat it.
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I posted it because this because it seems that many think this is a 'recreational' drug with no consequences, it isn't.soapboxsam said:ME14addick said:It may be boring to be reminded of the effects of using cocaine, but this is what the NHS Scotland says about it.Cocaine
Cocaine (hydrochloride) is a highly addictive drug. It acts as a short lived central nervous system stimulant and local anaesthetic.
It’s extracted from the leaves of coca plants and is usually snorted.
Crack cocaine is the smokable form of the drug and comes as crystals known as rocks or stones. Crack and cocaine powder can be injected but doing this is linked to many harmful effects.
Effects of cocaine
Common effects of cocaine include:
- anxiety
- confidence
- dilated pupils
- energy
- euphoria
- increased heart rate
- paranoia
- restlessness
Long term effects of using cocaine
Longer term effects of using cocaine can include:
- dependency
- damage to the heart
- mood swings
- poor sleeping patterns
- impotence
- malnutrition due to suppressed appetite
- difficulties manging your mental health which may affect mental health conditions
- damage to the lips, mouth and lungs caused by smoking cocaine
- needle-related injuries like infections and, in extreme cases, amputation of limbs
Soft tissue damage
When snorted, cocaine causes the blood vessels to contract. This reduces blood flow to the nose. Repeated use can then damage the nasal structure and tissues. This can cause holes or perforations in the septum (the cartilage between the nostrils).
Common cocaine cutting agents, like levamisole, can also cause soft tissue damage. This includes rashes, wounds and skin damage.
If left untreated this damage can be irreparable so it’s important to speak to your GP as soon as problems arise.
Risks of mixing cocaine with other substances
Using alcohol and cocaine together has a bigger risk. They mix together in the body to produce a toxic chemical called cocaethylene. This affects the cardiovascular system and increases the risk of overdose.
Using heroin with cocaine has a much greater risk. This can increase the likelihood of an overdose. Each drug puts a lot of pressure on the central nervous system and the heart. This can result in respiratory failure.
Why is this worthy of LOL's 🤔
Are you shit faced at the moment?
As I said you may be the lucky ones or you may end up laying in your own shit and vomit and clog up the NHS.3 -
I like the bit in that story about the timing of his Travelodge hotel reservation and, in particular, the booking confirmation he sent. That's taking his role as a fourth official a bit seriously.fenaddick said:I would suggest that if this is true it's more than an occasional thing and more of an issue as it's affecting his job. If that is the case, he needs help but I doubt he will receive it
https://www.football365.com/news/david-coote-travelodge-drugs-party-half-time-spurs-man-city0 -
Using an illegal class A drug is somewhat different from all those others that you mention.Chris_from_Sidcup said:
I would imagine it's because it's a thread about a ref who clearly gets on it from time to time and will likely lose his job. Posting a lengthy message telling people the effects of cocaine as well as things like "using alcohol and cocaine together has a bigger risk" and that "using heroin with cocaine has a much greater risk" is probably pretty obvious to anyone over the age of 12.ME14addick said:Not sure why a post pointing out the harms of taking a Class A drug attracts lols, as it's a serious matter.
David Coote is in a job where you need to have full control of your decision making, taking mind altering drugs is a stupid and reckless thing to do.
Everyone on here is an adult and can make their own choices. There's risks with anything in life, whether that's taking drugs, drinking alcohol, gambling, eating fried food or crossing a busy road.
The figures for accidents caused by drivers under the influence of illegal drugs and alcohol would suggest that it is a big problem, which is why the normalising the taking of drugs isn't acceptable.1 -
ME14addick said:
I posted it because this because it seems that many think this is a 'recreational' drug with no consequences, it isn't.soapboxsam said:ME14addick said:It may be boring to be reminded of the effects of using cocaine, but this is what the NHS Scotland says about it.Cocaine
Cocaine (hydrochloride) is a highly addictive drug. It acts as a short lived central nervous system stimulant and local anaesthetic.
It’s extracted from the leaves of coca plants and is usually snorted.
Crack cocaine is the smokable form of the drug and comes as crystals known as rocks or stones. Crack and cocaine powder can be injected but doing this is linked to many harmful effects.
Effects of cocaine
Common effects of cocaine include:
- anxiety
- confidence
- dilated pupils
- energy
- euphoria
- increased heart rate
- paranoia
- restlessness
Long term effects of using cocaine
Longer term effects of using cocaine can include:
- dependency
- damage to the heart
- mood swings
- poor sleeping patterns
- impotence
- malnutrition due to suppressed appetite
- difficulties manging your mental health which may affect mental health conditions
- damage to the lips, mouth and lungs caused by smoking cocaine
- needle-related injuries like infections and, in extreme cases, amputation of limbs
Soft tissue damage
When snorted, cocaine causes the blood vessels to contract. This reduces blood flow to the nose. Repeated use can then damage the nasal structure and tissues. This can cause holes or perforations in the septum (the cartilage between the nostrils).
Common cocaine cutting agents, like levamisole, can also cause soft tissue damage. This includes rashes, wounds and skin damage.
If left untreated this damage can be irreparable so it’s important to speak to your GP as soon as problems arise.
Risks of mixing cocaine with other substances
Using alcohol and cocaine together has a bigger risk. They mix together in the body to produce a toxic chemical called cocaethylene. This affects the cardiovascular system and increases the risk of overdose.
Using heroin with cocaine has a much greater risk. This can increase the likelihood of an overdose. Each drug puts a lot of pressure on the central nervous system and the heart. This can result in respiratory failure.
Why is this worthy of LOL's 🤔
Are you shit faced at the moment?
As I said you may be the lucky ones or you may end up laying in your own shit and vomit and clog up the NHS.
No that’s not what people think, so jump off your high horse.
What was implied was that people can use it recreationally. Christ, I know enough people that do.
It can also be a seriously addictive drug, no doubt about that.
No different to booze, gambling or excessive eating. Just cos it’s ‘illegal’ doesn’t mean some people don’t know how to control it.
Why on earth you’ve started rambling on about drug drivers is anyone’s guess, but you do love a preach.
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It's an illegal drug the others aren't.ValleyGary said:ME14addick said:
I posted it because this because it seems that many think this is a 'recreational' drug with no consequences, it isn't.soapboxsam said:ME14addick said:It may be boring to be reminded of the effects of using cocaine, but this is what the NHS Scotland says about it.Cocaine
Cocaine (hydrochloride) is a highly addictive drug. It acts as a short lived central nervous system stimulant and local anaesthetic.
It’s extracted from the leaves of coca plants and is usually snorted.
Crack cocaine is the smokable form of the drug and comes as crystals known as rocks or stones. Crack and cocaine powder can be injected but doing this is linked to many harmful effects.
Effects of cocaine
Common effects of cocaine include:
- anxiety
- confidence
- dilated pupils
- energy
- euphoria
- increased heart rate
- paranoia
- restlessness
Long term effects of using cocaine
Longer term effects of using cocaine can include:
- dependency
- damage to the heart
- mood swings
- poor sleeping patterns
- impotence
- malnutrition due to suppressed appetite
- difficulties manging your mental health which may affect mental health conditions
- damage to the lips, mouth and lungs caused by smoking cocaine
- needle-related injuries like infections and, in extreme cases, amputation of limbs
Soft tissue damage
When snorted, cocaine causes the blood vessels to contract. This reduces blood flow to the nose. Repeated use can then damage the nasal structure and tissues. This can cause holes or perforations in the septum (the cartilage between the nostrils).
Common cocaine cutting agents, like levamisole, can also cause soft tissue damage. This includes rashes, wounds and skin damage.
If left untreated this damage can be irreparable so it’s important to speak to your GP as soon as problems arise.
Risks of mixing cocaine with other substances
Using alcohol and cocaine together has a bigger risk. They mix together in the body to produce a toxic chemical called cocaethylene. This affects the cardiovascular system and increases the risk of overdose.
Using heroin with cocaine has a much greater risk. This can increase the likelihood of an overdose. Each drug puts a lot of pressure on the central nervous system and the heart. This can result in respiratory failure.
Why is this worthy of LOL's 🤔
Are you shit faced at the moment?
As I said you may be the lucky ones or you may end up laying in your own shit and vomit and clog up the NHS.
No that’s not what people think, so jump off your high horse.
What was implied was that people can use it recreationally. Christ, I know enough people that do.
It can also be a seriously addictive drug, no doubt about that.
No different to booze, gambling or excessive eating.2 -
Classic 'whataboutery'.SporadicAddick said:
This is what the US department of Transportation says about it.MrOneLung said:I heard he once went 75 on the motorway.
Anyone have documentation on the dangers to other road users please?The IssueDangers of Speeding
TRAFFIC SAFETY FACTS & DATA PUBLICATIONSFor more than two decades, speeding has been involved in approximately one-third of all motor vehicle fatalities. In 2022, speeding was a contributing factor in 29% of all traffic fatalities.
Speed also affects your safety even when you are driving at the speed limit but too fast for road conditions, such as during bad weather, when a road is under repair, or in an area at night that isn’t well lit.
Speeding endangers not only the life of the speeder, but all of the people on the road around them, including law enforcement officers. It is a problem we all need to help solve.
The IssueConsequences
Speeding is more than just breaking the law. The consequences are far-ranging:
- Greater potential for loss of vehicle control;
- Reduced effectiveness of occupant protection equipment;
- Increased stopping distance after the driver perceives a danger;
- Increased degree of crash severity leading to more severe injuries;
- Economic implications of a speed-related crash; and
- Increased fuel consumption/cost.
The IssueWhat Drives Speeding?
Related TopicsSpeeding is a type of aggressive driving behavior. Several factors have contributed to an overall rise in aggressive driving:
Traffic
Traffic congestion is one of the most frequently mentioned contributing factors to aggressive driving, such as speeding. Drivers may respond by using aggressive driving behaviors, including speeding, changing lanes frequently, or becoming angry at anyone who they believe impedes their progress.
Running Late
Some people drive aggressively because they have too much to do and are “running late” for work, school, their next meeting, lesson, soccer game, or other appointment.
Anonymity
A motor vehicle insulates the driver from the world. Shielded from the outside environment, a driver can develop a sense of detachment, as if an observer of their surroundings, rather than a participant. This can lead to some people feeling less constrained in their behavior when they cannot be seen by others and/or when it is unlikely that they will ever again see those who witness their behavior.
Disregard for Others and For the Law
Most motorists rarely drive aggressively, and some never do. For others, episodes of aggressive driving are frequent, and for a small proportion of motorists it is their usual driving behavior. Occasional episodes of aggressive driving–such as speeding and changing lanes abruptly–might occur in response to specific situations, like when the driver is late for an important appointment, but is not the driver’s normal behavior.
If it seems that there are more cases of rude and outrageous behavior on the road now than in the past, the observation is correct—if for no other reason than there are more drivers driving more miles on the same roads than ever before.
The IssueDealing with Speeding and Aggressive Drivers
Speeding behavior and aggressive drivers may not only affect the speeder—it can also affect other drivers, pedestrians, and bicyclists. Here are some tips for encountering speeders on the road:
- If you are in the left lane and someone wants to pass, move over and let them by.
- Give speeding drivers plenty of space. Speeding drivers may lose control of their vehicle more easily.
- Adjust your driving accordingly. Speeding is tied to aggressive driving. If a speeding driver is tailgating you or trying to engage you in risky driving, use judgment to safely steer your vehicle out of the way.
- Call the police if you believe a driver is following you or harassing you.
NHTSA In ActionNHTSA is dedicated to eliminating risky behaviors on our nation’s roads
NHTSA works with the Federal Motor Carrier Safety Administration and the Federal Highway Administration to provide the roadmap, tools, guidance, and resources for state and local governments to use in designing and applying a balanced and effective speed management program. Speed management involves the following:
- Defining the relationship between speed, speeding, and safety.
- Applying road design and engineering measures to obtain appropriate speeds.
- Setting speed limits that are safe and reasonable.
- Applying enforcement efforts and appropriate technology that effectively target crash-producing speeders and deter speeding.
- Effectively marketing communication and educational messages that focus on high-risk drivers.
- Soliciting the cooperation, support, and leadership of traffic safety stakeholders.
To promote this strategy, NHTSA delivers a Speed Management Program course to state and local jurisdictions. The course uses a multidisciplinary approach to address speeding problems in states and local communities.
NHTSA also provides training to law enforcement officers on the use of speed-measuring devices (i.e., radar and lidar) in order to identify and take enforcement action against speeding drivers.
Finally, NHTSA works with national law enforcement partners, including the International Association of Chiefs of Police, the National Sheriffs’ Association, the National Organization of Black Law Enforcement Executives, and the International Association of Directors of Law Enforcement to heighten awareness of the speeding problem in the United States and deliver effective enforcement countermeasures to combat it.
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Thank god you’re here.ME14addick said:
It's an illegal drug the others aren't.ValleyGary said:ME14addick said:
I posted it because this because it seems that many think this is a 'recreational' drug with no consequences, it isn't.soapboxsam said:ME14addick said:It may be boring to be reminded of the effects of using cocaine, but this is what the NHS Scotland says about it.Cocaine
Cocaine (hydrochloride) is a highly addictive drug. It acts as a short lived central nervous system stimulant and local anaesthetic.
It’s extracted from the leaves of coca plants and is usually snorted.
Crack cocaine is the smokable form of the drug and comes as crystals known as rocks or stones. Crack and cocaine powder can be injected but doing this is linked to many harmful effects.
Effects of cocaine
Common effects of cocaine include:
- anxiety
- confidence
- dilated pupils
- energy
- euphoria
- increased heart rate
- paranoia
- restlessness
Long term effects of using cocaine
Longer term effects of using cocaine can include:
- dependency
- damage to the heart
- mood swings
- poor sleeping patterns
- impotence
- malnutrition due to suppressed appetite
- difficulties manging your mental health which may affect mental health conditions
- damage to the lips, mouth and lungs caused by smoking cocaine
- needle-related injuries like infections and, in extreme cases, amputation of limbs
Soft tissue damage
When snorted, cocaine causes the blood vessels to contract. This reduces blood flow to the nose. Repeated use can then damage the nasal structure and tissues. This can cause holes or perforations in the septum (the cartilage between the nostrils).
Common cocaine cutting agents, like levamisole, can also cause soft tissue damage. This includes rashes, wounds and skin damage.
If left untreated this damage can be irreparable so it’s important to speak to your GP as soon as problems arise.
Risks of mixing cocaine with other substances
Using alcohol and cocaine together has a bigger risk. They mix together in the body to produce a toxic chemical called cocaethylene. This affects the cardiovascular system and increases the risk of overdose.
Using heroin with cocaine has a much greater risk. This can increase the likelihood of an overdose. Each drug puts a lot of pressure on the central nervous system and the heart. This can result in respiratory failure.
Why is this worthy of LOL's 🤔
Are you shit faced at the moment?
As I said you may be the lucky ones or you may end up laying in your own shit and vomit and clog up the NHS.
No that’s not what people think, so jump off your high horse.
What was implied was that people can use it recreationally. Christ, I know enough people that do.
It can also be a seriously addictive drug, no doubt about that.
No different to booze, gambling or excessive eating.3 -
Probably because as usual it’s only for attention. The content isn’t funny, the impulse is. Why post it for everyone on a thread where we’re discussing a ref who’s done drugs? If you’re that bothered why not find a contact email for Coote and tell him yourself?ME14addick said:Not sure why a post pointing out the harms of taking a Class A drug attracts lols, as it's a serious matter.
David Coote is in a job where you need to have full control of your decision making, taking mind altering drugs is a stupid and reckless thing to do.3 -
It is a thread about a referee who has taken illegal drugs and many on here seem to condone the taking of illegal drugs and dismiss the taking of them as recreational and having no consequences, I take a different view.JaShea99 said:
Probably because as usual it’s only for attention. The content isn’t funny, the impulse is. Why post it for everyone on a thread where we’re discussing a ref who’s done drugs? If you’re that bothered why not find a contact email for Coote and tell him yourself?ME14addick said:Not sure why a post pointing out the harms of taking a Class A drug attracts lols, as it's a serious matter.
David Coote is in a job where you need to have full control of your decision making, taking mind altering drugs is a stupid and reckless thing to do.2 -
I'm not accepting ANY advice on speeding from a country where 21 states still allow the use of hand-held cell phones while driving! (Not to mention it being legal (in most states) to keep a loaded hand gun in your glove compartment).SporadicAddick said:
This is what the US department of Transportation says about it.MrOneLung said:I heard he once went 75 on the motorway.
Anyone have documentation on the dangers to other road users please?The IssueDangers of Speeding
TRAFFIC SAFETY FACTS & DATA PUBLICATIONSFor more than two decades, speeding has been involved in approximately one-third of all motor vehicle fatalities. In 2022, speeding was a contributing factor in 29% of all traffic fatalities.
Speed also affects your safety even when you are driving at the speed limit but too fast for road conditions, such as during bad weather, when a road is under repair, or in an area at night that isn’t well lit.
Speeding endangers not only the life of the speeder, but all of the people on the road around them, including law enforcement officers. It is a problem we all need to help solve.
The IssueConsequences
Speeding is more than just breaking the law. The consequences are far-ranging:
- Greater potential for loss of vehicle control;
- Reduced effectiveness of occupant protection equipment;
- Increased stopping distance after the driver perceives a danger;
- Increased degree of crash severity leading to more severe injuries;
- Economic implications of a speed-related crash; and
- Increased fuel consumption/cost.
The IssueWhat Drives Speeding?
Related TopicsSpeeding is a type of aggressive driving behavior. Several factors have contributed to an overall rise in aggressive driving:
Traffic
Traffic congestion is one of the most frequently mentioned contributing factors to aggressive driving, such as speeding. Drivers may respond by using aggressive driving behaviors, including speeding, changing lanes frequently, or becoming angry at anyone who they believe impedes their progress.
Running Late
Some people drive aggressively because they have too much to do and are “running late” for work, school, their next meeting, lesson, soccer game, or other appointment.
Anonymity
A motor vehicle insulates the driver from the world. Shielded from the outside environment, a driver can develop a sense of detachment, as if an observer of their surroundings, rather than a participant. This can lead to some people feeling less constrained in their behavior when they cannot be seen by others and/or when it is unlikely that they will ever again see those who witness their behavior.
Disregard for Others and For the Law
Most motorists rarely drive aggressively, and some never do. For others, episodes of aggressive driving are frequent, and for a small proportion of motorists it is their usual driving behavior. Occasional episodes of aggressive driving–such as speeding and changing lanes abruptly–might occur in response to specific situations, like when the driver is late for an important appointment, but is not the driver’s normal behavior.
If it seems that there are more cases of rude and outrageous behavior on the road now than in the past, the observation is correct—if for no other reason than there are more drivers driving more miles on the same roads than ever before.
The IssueDealing with Speeding and Aggressive Drivers
Speeding behavior and aggressive drivers may not only affect the speeder—it can also affect other drivers, pedestrians, and bicyclists. Here are some tips for encountering speeders on the road:
- If you are in the left lane and someone wants to pass, move over and let them by.
- Give speeding drivers plenty of space. Speeding drivers may lose control of their vehicle more easily.
- Adjust your driving accordingly. Speeding is tied to aggressive driving. If a speeding driver is tailgating you or trying to engage you in risky driving, use judgment to safely steer your vehicle out of the way.
- Call the police if you believe a driver is following you or harassing you.
NHTSA In ActionNHTSA is dedicated to eliminating risky behaviors on our nation’s roads
NHTSA works with the Federal Motor Carrier Safety Administration and the Federal Highway Administration to provide the roadmap, tools, guidance, and resources for state and local governments to use in designing and applying a balanced and effective speed management program. Speed management involves the following:
- Defining the relationship between speed, speeding, and safety.
- Applying road design and engineering measures to obtain appropriate speeds.
- Setting speed limits that are safe and reasonable.
- Applying enforcement efforts and appropriate technology that effectively target crash-producing speeders and deter speeding.
- Effectively marketing communication and educational messages that focus on high-risk drivers.
- Soliciting the cooperation, support, and leadership of traffic safety stakeholders.
To promote this strategy, NHTSA delivers a Speed Management Program course to state and local jurisdictions. The course uses a multidisciplinary approach to address speeding problems in states and local communities.
NHTSA also provides training to law enforcement officers on the use of speed-measuring devices (i.e., radar and lidar) in order to identify and take enforcement action against speeding drivers.
Finally, NHTSA works with national law enforcement partners, including the International Association of Chiefs of Police, the National Sheriffs’ Association, the National Organization of Black Law Enforcement Executives, and the International Association of Directors of Law Enforcement to heighten awareness of the speeding problem in the United States and deliver effective enforcement countermeasures to combat it.
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