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Drinking in the stands- could it catch on?
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Surely a plastic bottle with the cap taken off, just like fizzies is the answer? Not the best ‘experience’ drinking it but I’d take the hit if I could take it to my seat. Not sure if any beer companies are making plastic bottles but I’m sure they’d start if that market opened up.2
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Yeah i'd agree with this, if it's going to work it has to be plastic bottles as at least then it's a bit more difficult for beer to go everywhere when a goal is scored.cafc_harry said:Surely a plastic bottle with the cap taken off, just like fizzies is the answer? Not the best ‘experience’ drinking it but I’d take the hit if I could take it to my seat. Not sure if any beer companies are making plastic bottles but I’m sure they’d start if that market opened up.
The obvious downside of course is that it probably won't be long before a bunch of pissed up away fans rain plastic bottles down on the opposition striker celebrating a goal in a local derby.1 -
they sell them like that at other grounds already. Peterborough comes to mind, they also get produced for some music venues so it’s not out of the question. The problem with a bottle is it can be used as a projectile onto the pitch in a way that a plastic cup can. I know you could do that with a coke bottle too but if you’ve had a few too many beers you’re more likely to lob your bottle than if you’ve had a diet cokecafc_harry said:Surely a plastic bottle with the cap taken off, just like fizzies is the answer? Not the best ‘experience’ drinking it but I’d take the hit if I could take it to my seat. Not sure if any beer companies are making plastic bottles but I’m sure they’d start if that market opened up.1 -
What is happening now with the new bottles where the cap can't be detached from the bottle (for recycling reasons) without brute force?cafc_harry said:Surely a plastic bottle with the cap taken off, just like fizzies is the answer? Not the best ‘experience’ drinking it but I’d take the hit if I could take it to my seat. Not sure if any beer companies are making plastic bottles but I’m sure they’d start if that market opened up.0 -
The world is supposed to be moving away from unnecessary plastic for environmental reasons.
Beer should be served in rolled up newspapers.8 -
Disagree that a ridiculous proposal, i suggest fans are given rubber reusable gumshields they then pay £5 and they be allowed to gum the tap of a barrow for a period (up to a maximum of 45 seconds), which is both hygienic and ensures no beer is wasted.seth plum said:The world is supposed to be moving away from unnecessary plastic for environmental reasons.
Beer should be served in rolled up newspapers.2 -
It should definitely not be illegal under UK law. It think that is ridiculous and unnecessary!
Clubs should be able to decide for themselves how to handle it. My preference in the West Stand would be that
the bars underneath shut while the game goes on so there is no point in leaving your seat unless you want a pee. No problem with people bringing a pint with them. Glass bottles or anything never allowed of course.1 -
100%stevexreeve said:It should definitely not be illegal under UK law. It think that is ridiculous and unnecessary!
Clubs should be able to decide for themselves how to handle it. My preference in the West Stand would be that
the bars underneath shut while the game goes on so there is no point in leaving your seat unless you want a pee. No problem with people bringing a pint with them. Glass bottles or anything never allowed of course.0 -
seth plum said:The world is supposed to be moving away from unnecessary plastic for environmental reasons.
Beer should be served in rolled up newspapers.
In Germany, France and Austria you pay for a reusable cup then can get your deposit back at the end of the game - or you can keep the cup for next time, or take it as a souvenir.I'm against it though. Time in the ground is a useful booze break during games and extends the evening's activities. The English, me included, don't handle our beer well enough.2 -
Which is what happens at most cricket grounds (though strangely Kent seem to have gone back to disposable cups)RedPanda said:seth plum said:The world is supposed to be moving away from unnecessary plastic for environmental reasons.
Beer should be served in rolled up newspapers.
In Germany, France and Austria you pay for a reusable cup then can get your deposit back at the end of the game - or you can keep the cup for next time, or take it as a souvenir.0 -
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RedPanda said:seth plum said:The world is supposed to be moving away from unnecessary plastic for environmental reasons.
Beer should be served in rolled up newspapers.
In Germany, France and Austria you pay for a reusable cup then can get your deposit back at the end of the game - or you can keep the cup for next time, or take it as a souvenir.I'm against it though. Time in the ground is a useful booze break during games and extends the evening's activities. The English, me included, don't handle our beer well enough.
You, no doubt, like myself have experienced many countries where you can drink whilst watching the game. Sadly, I doubt it will ever be done in the professional game over here.
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Cool, I've not been to watch cricket for a few years. Stewart and I had the same at a Hungerford non league game a couple of years ago.killerandflash said:
Which is what happens at most cricket grounds (though strangely Kent seem to have gone back to disposable cups)RedPanda said:seth plum said:The world is supposed to be moving away from unnecessary plastic for environmental reasons.
Beer should be served in rolled up newspapers.
In Germany, France and Austria you pay for a reusable cup then can get your deposit back at the end of the game - or you can keep the cup for next time, or take it as a souvenir.It's worth noting the French do it but for non-alcoholic beer only so you're effectively paying for a souvenir cup and getting a free drink. Scottish grounds are also always 'dry' so we don't have it too bad. In fact I got fined for having a supermarket beer near Hampden once.0 -
Why is it irrelevant? They’re human beings watching a football match in very similar circumstances. Germany our culturally very similar to us. Germans also drink shitloads and somebody above mentioned our tribalism around football which they also have in droves.Covered End said:But we’re not in Germany or Italy so it’s irrelevant.
I agree with others, it may raise an extra £200 a match, but at the expense of many pissed off fans.Why on earth should tens of thousands of people be able to neck beers whilst watching football in Dortmund or Berlin or Hamburg without it kicking off or people fighting each other cos somebody’s getting up in their way every 2 minutes but it’s not possible in England?!I would also add that thousands of England fans were able to do it whilst watching England matches at the Euros during the summer and again , not a problem.I feel like this is just hypothetical panic, reality is it would likely be absolutely fine especially when we got used to it.1 -
I don't think that would work in English football culture. I live in Berlin and have been to quite a few Hertha and Union games. While people get extremely drunk, they are still sensible—each individual will correctly recycle every bottle and cup or take it home with them.RedPanda said:seth plum said:The world is supposed to be moving away from unnecessary plastic for environmental reasons.
Beer should be served in rolled up newspapers.
In Germany, France and Austria you pay for a reusable cup then can get your deposit back at the end of the game - or you can keep the cup for next time, or take it as a souvenir.I'm against it though. Time in the ground is a useful booze break during games and extends the evening's activities. The English, me included, don't handle our beer well enough.
At the Valley, I can imagine a thousand plastic cups thrown on the floor next to all the disposable vapes and small transparent bags.3 -
So has The Oval.killerandflash said:
Which is what happens at most cricket grounds (though strangely Kent seem to have gone back to disposable cups)RedPanda said:seth plum said:The world is supposed to be moving away from unnecessary plastic for environmental reasons.
Beer should be served in rolled up newspapers.
In Germany, France and Austria you pay for a reusable cup then can get your deposit back at the end of the game - or you can keep the cup for next time, or take it as a souvenir.
NB Charlton would be mad to give out plastic bottles in the Covered End after the referee was hit with a plastic ketchup bottle and 2 fans were hit and injured from bottles thrown from the upper into the lower tier in the last couple of seasons.1 -
Germany doesn’t have the same issues with cocaine as we do.paulsturgess said:
Why is it irrelevant? They’re human beings watching a football match in very similar circumstances. Germany our culturally very similar to us. Germans also drink shitloads and somebody above mentioned our tribalism around football which they also have in droves.Covered End said:But we’re not in Germany or Italy so it’s irrelevant.
I agree with others, it may raise an extra £200 a match, but at the expense of many pissed off fans.Why on earth should tens of thousands of people be able to neck beers whilst watching football in Dortmund or Berlin or Hamburg without it kicking off or people fighting each other cos somebody’s getting up in their way every 2 minutes but it’s not possible in England?!I would also add that thousands of England fans were able to do it whilst watching England matches at the Euros during the summer and again , not a problem.I feel like this is just hypothetical panic, reality is it would likely be absolutely fine especially when we got used to it.0 -
Reality is see my post above, about the referee and fans being hit by thrown plastic bottles.paulsturgess said:
Why is it irrelevant? They’re human beings watching a football match in very similar circumstances. Germany our culturally very similar to us. Germans also drink shitloads and somebody above mentioned our tribalism around football which they also have in droves.Covered End said:But we’re not in Germany or Italy so it’s irrelevant.
I agree with others, it may raise an extra £200 a match, but at the expense of many pissed off fans.Why on earth should tens of thousands of people be able to neck beers whilst watching football in Dortmund or Berlin or Hamburg without it kicking off or people fighting each other cos somebody’s getting up in their way every 2 minutes but it’s not possible in England?!I would also add that thousands of England fans were able to do it whilst watching England matches at the Euros during the summer and again , not a problem.I feel like this is just hypothetical panic, reality is it would likely be absolutely fine especially when we got used to it.0 -
You are right, they are a LOT more Liberal and give far less of a shit about going off into toilets. Hamburg, Berlin I've seen people doing keys and card edges sat at tables in bars and nobody cares. Also the German police are absolutely fucking brutal which discourages a lot of the bullshit behaviour we put up with over hereRothko said:
Germany doesn’t have the same issues with cocaine as we do.paulsturgess said:
Why is it irrelevant? They’re human beings watching a football match in very similar circumstances. Germany our culturally very similar to us. Germans also drink shitloads and somebody above mentioned our tribalism around football which they also have in droves.Covered End said:But we’re not in Germany or Italy so it’s irrelevant.
I agree with others, it may raise an extra £200 a match, but at the expense of many pissed off fans.Why on earth should tens of thousands of people be able to neck beers whilst watching football in Dortmund or Berlin or Hamburg without it kicking off or people fighting each other cos somebody’s getting up in their way every 2 minutes but it’s not possible in England?!I would also add that thousands of England fans were able to do it whilst watching England matches at the Euros during the summer and again , not a problem.I feel like this is just hypothetical panic, reality is it would likely be absolutely fine especially when we got used to it.2 -
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A good way to boost attendances at women's football. Perhaps they'll bring in a prosecco bar
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I smoke. I drink beer. I like to have the freedom to stand where I please.
I like to hear and discuss with other supporters their views on their clubs.
I like the idea of seeing that my money goes directly into a club rather than its shareholders.
I like the idea that a player turns up, works his bollocks off and after the game is happy to say hello.
That is why I probably enjoy non league football more than do at Charlton.
I loved the old set up, the likes of meeting Hales etc after the game.
Kinsella and Stewart in the bar having a pint or two of Guinness.
Football at Charltons level is so far beyond the reaches that it was, it sent me elsewhere.
Following Welling has been a great bond for me and my son.We have had the pleasure of visiting many picturesque parts of southern England, and had great times chewing the fat with many of there supporters.
Just bought our train tickets for Truro, and can’t wait for a weekend away.
Knowing that you be welcomed with open arms to their club makes the journey more worthy.
Money has killed the club/competition that I once loved.8 -
if people want to get smashed before a game this wont stop it, i do think its a good thing went to a nice game in the summer and although low alcohol being able to sit in the sun whilst having a "pint" and a smoke for those that do was quite nice.0
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We can help with this 😉killerandflash said:A good way to boost attendances at women's football. Perhaps they'll bring in a prosecco bar0 -
Thinking in the stands will never catch on1
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Weirdly me and my bro were talking bout this a few weeks ago. Let's be honest, there's no way we can be trusted to drink in our seats during the game. It would be carnage. And for all those saying "they do it in Holland/Germany" just have a look online at some of the aggro that goes on in those countries both in and outside of the grounds!0
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Went to an RB Leipzig game last year, never seen so many people pissed in the stands, myself included.
It would be absolute mayhem if we had that in England.
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They are already drinking in the upper west stand. Many european visitors take it for granted you can drink at your seat.0
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Carnage? I don’t think so, policing inside grounds in this country is too good any little incidents would be dealt with/ bans, In this day & age I don’t think having a drink would would be too much of an issue, things/attitudes have changed since 80’s.YTS1978 said:Weirdly me and my bro were talking bout this a few weeks ago. Let's be honest, there's no way we can be trusted to drink in our seats during the game. It would be carnage. And for all those saying "they do it in Holland/Germany" just have a look online at some of the aggro that goes on in those countries both in and outside of the grounds!2 -
Well, there's no way you two can be trusted to drink in your seats , that's for sure!YTS1978 said:Weirdly me and my bro were talking bout this a few weeks ago. Let's be honest, there's no way we can be trusted to drink in our seats during the game. It would be carnage. And for all those saying "they do it in Holland/Germany" just have a look online at some of the aggro that goes on in those countries both in and outside of the grounds!2 -
It’s a no from me.2
