MATCH THREAD (+post p17) Charlton Athletic V Chelsea U21: BSM Trophy : Tues 29th Oct 2024 : KO 19:00

Just seen the highlights. Now that AMB has taken off the mask, he can see the ball. Looked like he had a good game last night 

msomerton said:

fenaddick said:

msomerton said:

I liked the way Hylton coached Tyreece to his goal. 
It came from a throw by Berry. Halton instructed Berry how to rake the throw and were to put it. Halton got the ball yelled at Tyreece where to run to and put the ball in his path. Then shouted at him how to get I to tge area to take his shot.
He may be slow but has a good experienced footballing brain. He knows the game well.

Very impressive as Berry wasn’t in the squad at all

Sorry correct, should have been Small.
Who does not take good throws. 

Easy mistake to make 

TheHerminator said:

If Gillesphey had made the errors Mitchell made last night some of you lot would be absolutely pelting him. 

But because he's 'one of ours' and 'learning his trade' its fine and you focus on the positives.

What I saw last night of him is that he's no where near ready, and those errors would cost us in a league 1 game. But there will still be the clammer for him to start soon

My view on this, and I may be biased as a well known fan of the lad, is that 90% of his gametime last night was impeccable. Cool headed, composed on the ball & attack minded when the opportunity showed itself. And a definite lack of sideways passing which is a flaw others have commented on in their criticism of regular defenders.

I agree that he did make a couple of errors but please tell me which of our players is blameless throughout the 90+ minutes of a match. 

Like other Lifers, I was watching Zach closely as this was "his moment" to show what he's made of. And for the majority of the match, he didn't disappoint. 

But my final point which I believe is a viable one, is, apart from the previous tie at Cambridge,  he has had minmal game time thus far this season to hone his performance & to be " match fit". One game if I remember correctly in the U21s ....hardly the best preparation for last night's important showing against the Chelsea stars of the future, who on the whole are his peers, age wise.....As a result, he would have felt under a deal of pressure to perform with the Bromley match probably his next opportunity. 

And, looking at his body language when he walked off the pitch at the final whistle, I think he was disappointed with his performance.....and determined to remedy this if given further chances to do so. 

ShootersHillGuru said:

AFKABartram said:

ShootersHillGuru said:

I would guess the only negative would be that Miles, if he wasn’t already, is now very firmly on the list of young guns Chelsea will be looking to sign up for their football sausage factory. 

They released him at 16. That’s when he came to us

I doubt that will deter them from wanting him if they think they can make money out of it. 

That's the point it would be a business decision. Chelsea like fast forwards now and even Nicolas offside Jackson has improved since he has had one to one coaching in the afternoon. 
I wouldn't see Miles having a future at Chelsea as not only would he need to improve at a fast rate but they don't play with a traditional number 9.
if they could buy him for a couple of million loan him out with the fees that incur and then sell him to a newly promoted Side to the Premier or an ambitious Championship club in a couple of years for double or treble what they pay for him then it's just part of their loan business and raison d'etre. 

My son goes to the training ground with an academy side to Cobham occasionally and they play against their 16-18 year olds and the amount of Chelsea players and coaches in their younger age groups are as many as the First team. 

JohnnyH2 said:

PragueAddick said:

Plenty to be encouraged by there, I felt. Quite the cameo from Hylton. Reproduce that in a game that matters and we’ll all have to eat a bit of humble pie.

I was a bit concerned by Assimwe’s performance, far too many potentially costly mistakes and misjudgements to warrant a place in the first XI, and looks like he didn’t even impress at Hartlepool. Hope he can step up again. Unfortunately I agree that while Mitchell was generally imprsssive he too made some bad calls which suggest he shouldnt be thrown in just because of an injury crisis.

https://www.hartlepoolmail.co.uk/sport/football/nathan-asiimwe-lennie-lawrence-hopeful-pools-will-be-able-to-extend-impressive-teenagers-loan-deal-as-talks-with-charlton-athletic-ongoing-4841449

Lennie was impressed

Well it seems so, but having read the article, overall it's a mixed report. And Lennie played him as a right-winger. 

I want the boy to do well, and he may well do well. Thing is I believe Karoy Anderson will do well too, but he is already being over-played and getting pelters both here and in the ground - people have forgotten how young he is. I don't want that to happen to Assimwe too. He should get his chance when he's ready, not just because some more experienced players aren't performing.That's what we did last year to both of them. Based on last night, I'm not sure he's ready. But I also think we should send him somewhere better than Hartlepool if we can, Lennie or no Lennie.

agim said:

I'd imagine Leaburn will be snapped up on a pre-contract in Jan. I'd be shocked if someone like Chelsea came in but they did for Burstow so who knows. 

I've been told we have a 1 year extension option in his contract, let's hope it's true

PragueAddick said:

JohnnyH2 said:

PragueAddick said:

Plenty to be encouraged by there, I felt. Quite the cameo from Hylton. Reproduce that in a game that matters and we’ll all have to eat a bit of humble pie.

I was a bit concerned by Assimwe’s performance, far too many potentially costly mistakes and misjudgements to warrant a place in the first XI, and looks like he didn’t even impress at Hartlepool. Hope he can step up again. Unfortunately I agree that while Mitchell was generally imprsssive he too made some bad calls which suggest he shouldnt be thrown in just because of an injury crisis.

https://www.hartlepoolmail.co.uk/sport/football/nathan-asiimwe-lennie-lawrence-hopeful-pools-will-be-able-to-extend-impressive-teenagers-loan-deal-as-talks-with-charlton-athletic-ongoing-4841449

Lennie was impressed

Well it seems so, but having read the article, overall it's a mixed report. And Lennie played him as a right-winger. 

I want the boy to do well, and he may well do well. Thing is I believe Karoy Anderson will do well too, but he is already being over-played and getting pelters both here and in the ground - people have forgotten how young he is. I don't want that to happen to Assimwe too. He should get his chance when he's ready, not just because some more experienced players aren't performing.That's what we did last year to both of them. Based on last night, I'm not sure he's ready. But I also think we should send him somewhere better than Hartlepool if we can, Lennie or no Lennie.

Isn't there a rule you can only play for 2 clubs in a season. He has now played for us and Hartlepool.  I suspect he goes back there in a month or two when we have players back assuming they haven't bought someone else in

Although Laqueratabua was only on for a short time, he looked the part.

eaststandmike said:

So let me get this straight 

Last week:
 AMB is crap
Hylton is a fat pub player
Micky Mouse cup we should boycott
 mid table finish at best 

Now, after beating Chelsea Kindergarten 

AMB should get another chance 
Hylton should start Saturday 
Where is everyone drinking at Wembley 
Hopefully this win will kick start our promotion push 
😁😁

To be fair there was the outlandish prediction that Leaburn would score five yesterday too  

supaclive said:

AMB without a mask.  That help his vision and bravery?

Zach Mitchell isn't as good as he is hyped to be.  In my opinion.

Asimwe is our 2nd best right back and I'm glad he's back instead of Tennai.

A goal for TC smartly taken.  Now to do it against adults.

Miles is head and shoulders above many Chelsea stars of his own age.

Isn’t the hype as much about his potential as well as where he is now? If he can iron out the mistakes, get a run and develop some consistency then with his ability on the ball he can go a long way.

CB is a hard position to break through in as clubs at any level want a reliable player in that position.

For me of the youngster in the first team squad it’s Mitchell and Leaburn who have the most potential, they have both technical ability and some good physical attributes, something that can’t be said for every young player that’s part of the first team at the moment. Asiimwe might not be far off either as he has some similar strengths - decent going forward and has pace and strength.

thenewbie said:

Scoham said:

supaclive said:

AMB without a mask.  That help his vision and bravery?

Zach Mitchell isn't as good as he is hyped to be.  In my opinion.

Asimwe is our 2nd best right back and I'm glad he's back instead of Tennai.

A goal for TC smartly taken.  Now to do it against adults.

Miles is head and shoulders above many Chelsea stars of his own age.

Isn’t the hype as much about his potential as well as where he is now? If he can iron out the mistakes, get a run and develop some consistency then with his ability on the ball he can go a long way.

CB is a hard position to break through in as clubs at any level want a reliable player in that position.

For me of the youngster in the first team squad it’s Mitchell and Leaburn who have the most potential, they have both technical ability and some good physical attributes, something that can’t be said for every young player that’s part of the first team at the moment. Asiimwe might not be far off either as he has some similar strengths - decent going forward and has pace and strength.

Z. Mitchell definitely does have the potential but I think he's still some way off being ready to start regularly. And that's fine - he just needs to be bought through and developed properly to avoid being "Wagstaffed" and set back by doing too much too soon.

He will also benefit from there being some sort of decision about his best position. There's debate about whether he'd be better as a midfield anchor type and he could do that but we need to have a real idea which it will be long term.

I asked him this 2 seasons ago, at the PotY dinner. He said "definitely Centre Back".

SteveACS said:

thenewbie said:

Scoham said:

supaclive said:

AMB without a mask.  That help his vision and bravery?

Zach Mitchell isn't as good as he is hyped to be.  In my opinion.

Asimwe is our 2nd best right back and I'm glad he's back instead of Tennai.

A goal for TC smartly taken.  Now to do it against adults.

Miles is head and shoulders above many Chelsea stars of his own age.

Isn’t the hype as much about his potential as well as where he is now? If he can iron out the mistakes, get a run and develop some consistency then with his ability on the ball he can go a long way.

CB is a hard position to break through in as clubs at any level want a reliable player in that position.

For me of the youngster in the first team squad it’s Mitchell and Leaburn who have the most potential, they have both technical ability and some good physical attributes, something that can’t be said for every young player that’s part of the first team at the moment. Asiimwe might not be far off either as he has some similar strengths - decent going forward and has pace and strength.

Z. Mitchell definitely does have the potential but I think he's still some way off being ready to start regularly. And that's fine - he just needs to be bought through and developed properly to avoid being "Wagstaffed" and set back by doing too much too soon.

He will also benefit from there being some sort of decision about his best position. There's debate about whether he'd be better as a midfield anchor type and he could do that but we need to have a real idea which it will be long term.

I asked him this 2 seasons ago, at the PotY dinner. He said "definitely Centre Back".

Has he actually played DCM or has all that talk just come from fans on here musing he may suit the role?

JohnnyH2 said:

Athletico Charlton said:

SteveACS said:

thenewbie said:

Scoham said:

supaclive said:

AMB without a mask.  That help his vision and bravery?

Zach Mitchell isn't as good as he is hyped to be.  In my opinion.

Asimwe is our 2nd best right back and I'm glad he's back instead of Tennai.

A goal for TC smartly taken.  Now to do it against adults.

Miles is head and shoulders above many Chelsea stars of his own age.

Isn’t the hype as much about his potential as well as where he is now? If he can iron out the mistakes, get a run and develop some consistency then with his ability on the ball he can go a long way.

CB is a hard position to break through in as clubs at any level want a reliable player in that position.

For me of the youngster in the first team squad it’s Mitchell and Leaburn who have the most potential, they have both technical ability and some good physical attributes, something that can’t be said for every young player that’s part of the first team at the moment. Asiimwe might not be far off either as he has some similar strengths - decent going forward and has pace and strength.

Z. Mitchell definitely does have the potential but I think he's still some way off being ready to start regularly. And that's fine - he just needs to be bought through and developed properly to avoid being "Wagstaffed" and set back by doing too much too soon.

He will also benefit from there being some sort of decision about his best position. There's debate about whether he'd be better as a midfield anchor type and he could do that but we need to have a real idea which it will be long term.

I asked him this 2 seasons ago, at the PotY dinner. He said "definitely Centre Back".

Has he actually played DCM or has all that talk just come from fans on here musing he may suit the role?

Has played there for the Under 21s

I seem to remember he's also played as a Bielik style hybrid, either a DM who drops all the way back into defence or a CB who plays well ahead of the rest of the line. Although that could be a total Mandela Effect situation by me.

fenaddick said:

CAFCDAZ said:

agim said:

I'd imagine Leaburn will be snapped up on a pre-contract in Jan. I'd be shocked if someone like Chelsea came in but they did for Burstow so who knows. 

I've been told we have a 1 year extension option in his contract, let's hope it's true

Still on this deal which is described as 3 year, no mention of an option

https://www.charltonafc.com/news/six-academy-scholars-sign-professional-contracts

I'm taking this as a big fat win 😂