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MATCH PREVIEW (ish): Charlton Athletic v Chelsea U21: BSMTrophy: Tues 29th October 2024: KO 19:00

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  • 'Some Scottish clubs' but there's only two that anyone is interested in, and where is the value in sending a full squad to Hibs away in December? The thing was invented by Ron Noades wasn't it?
    Noades was behind the Full Members/  Simod / ZDS whatever else it was Cup. It was brought in during the European ban in the '80s. That was for the top two divisions only. 
  • blackpool72
    blackpool72 Posts: 23,675
    MrOneLung said:
    The Scottish prem clubs wouldn’t want to play in it 
    That's because they couldn't stand the embarrassment of losing to league two English teams. 
  • Southbank
    Southbank Posts: 5,252
    edited October 2024
    cafc999 said:
    The EFL sold out
    An abomination of a tournament that has no place in either professional football or the match record of any club that has to participate in it.

    If it were my club and I was loaded, we’d be fielding our U 21’s, taking the fine, and stating publicly that the result would be expunged (great word) from the clubs 1st team records.
    Because we are just way too good for this tournament.
    (In your dreams).
    Meanwhile in the real world  the fringe players and the promising youths will get a run out plus maybe some still recovering from injury.
    AMB, Mitchell Z, Edun, Small, Mbick, Ahadme, Taylor
  • In terms of the match against Chelsea, who has been playing Right-Back for the U21s of late.

    Wonder if we might give them a run out there, to protect REG
  • PopIcon said:
    cafc999 said:
    PopIcon said:
    cafc999 said:
    The EFL sold out
    An abomination of a tournament that has no place in either professional football or the match record of any club that has to participate in it.

    If it were my club and I was loaded, we’d be fielding our U 21’s, taking the fine, and stating publicly that the result would be expunged (great word) from the clubs 1st team records.
    It's a condition of our current level. I don't recall people moaning about it when we were in the Premier League.

    I wonder if the current naysayers would turn up if we made the final?
    Take out the prem U23's and it's a decent cup
    It's our only real chance of silverware and i'd love a day out at Wembley.

    The U23s do under value it, i think years ago the efl would invite non-league teams. I'd rather see Scottish teams involved.
    League one and Two from England plus some Scottish clubs would certainly add more interest than the present set up.
    Totally agree, add some Welsh teams in too and we might get another big gate like yesterday 😂
  • PopIcon said:
    cafc999 said:
    The EFL sold out
    An abomination of a tournament that has no place in either professional football or the match record of any club that has to participate in it.

    If it were my club and I was loaded, we’d be fielding our U 21’s, taking the fine, and stating publicly that the result would be expunged (great word) from the clubs 1st team records.
    It's a condition of our current level. I don't recall people moaning about it when we were in the Premier League.

    I wonder if the current naysayers would turn up if we made the final?
    It’s a fucking minge of a competition and yes that’s where we’re at but playing against u21 sides is beyond pathetic 

    I’ll go to the final cos the kids will want to but I have minimal interest in this shameful competition , load of shit 

    Leeds got to a semi final of this shit and I’m pretty sure they had plenty of fans who were embarrassed about it 
  • JohnnyH2
    JohnnyH2 Posts: 5,342
    fenaddick said:
    JohnnyH2 said:
    fenaddick said:
    PopIcon said:
    cafc999 said:
    The EFL sold out
    An abomination of a tournament that has no place in either professional football or the match record of any club that has to participate in it.

    If it were my club and I was loaded, we’d be fielding our U 21’s, taking the fine, and stating publicly that the result would be expunged (great word) from the clubs 1st team records.
    It's a condition of our current level. I don't recall people moaning about it when we were in the Premier League.

    I wonder if the current naysayers would turn up if we made the final?
    that would be because it’s a totally different competition to what it was back then 
    As soon as we were relegated in 2009 we have had people moaning we should not be in it, even when it was just League 1 and 2 clubs.

    Personally we are at the level we deserve to be and playing in this comp is part of that
    I just fundamentally think the idea of a cup for L1/L2 is a silly one. Basically no one takes it seriously until the semi’s and players don’t need the extra games. Sure it gives young players a debut but it’s against other kids and peripheral figures so the benefits aren’t great 
    the prize money is something a lot of the competing clubs see as a benefit
  • Braziliance
    Braziliance Posts: 8,358
    JohnnyH2 said:
    fenaddick said:
    JohnnyH2 said:
    fenaddick said:
    PopIcon said:
    cafc999 said:
    The EFL sold out
    An abomination of a tournament that has no place in either professional football or the match record of any club that has to participate in it.

    If it were my club and I was loaded, we’d be fielding our U 21’s, taking the fine, and stating publicly that the result would be expunged (great word) from the clubs 1st team records.
    It's a condition of our current level. I don't recall people moaning about it when we were in the Premier League.

    I wonder if the current naysayers would turn up if we made the final?
    that would be because it’s a totally different competition to what it was back then 
    As soon as we were relegated in 2009 we have had people moaning we should not be in it, even when it was just League 1 and 2 clubs.

    Personally we are at the level we deserve to be and playing in this comp is part of that
    I just fundamentally think the idea of a cup for L1/L2 is a silly one. Basically no one takes it seriously until the semi’s and players don’t need the extra games. Sure it gives young players a debut but it’s against other kids and peripheral figures so the benefits aren’t great 
    the prize money is something a lot of the competing clubs see as a benefit
    Winner receives 100k, runner up 50k, not too shabby for a very winnable competition compared to the FA Cup and League Cup. 
  • fenaddick
    fenaddick Posts: 11,041
    JohnnyH2 said:
    fenaddick said:
    JohnnyH2 said:
    fenaddick said:
    PopIcon said:
    cafc999 said:
    The EFL sold out
    An abomination of a tournament that has no place in either professional football or the match record of any club that has to participate in it.

    If it were my club and I was loaded, we’d be fielding our U 21’s, taking the fine, and stating publicly that the result would be expunged (great word) from the clubs 1st team records.
    It's a condition of our current level. I don't recall people moaning about it when we were in the Premier League.

    I wonder if the current naysayers would turn up if we made the final?
    that would be because it’s a totally different competition to what it was back then 
    As soon as we were relegated in 2009 we have had people moaning we should not be in it, even when it was just League 1 and 2 clubs.

    Personally we are at the level we deserve to be and playing in this comp is part of that
    I just fundamentally think the idea of a cup for L1/L2 is a silly one. Basically no one takes it seriously until the semi’s and players don’t need the extra games. Sure it gives young players a debut but it’s against other kids and peripheral figures so the benefits aren’t great 
    the prize money is something a lot of the competing clubs see as a benefit
    Winner receives 100k, runner up 50k, not too shabby for a very winnable competition compared to the FA Cup and League Cup. 
    Why not keep the money that goes into the cup and equally distribute amongst L1 and L2 teams though? 
  • Off_it
    Off_it Posts: 28,846
    I heard this guy is doing the "watchalong" for this one.


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  • Scoham
    Scoham Posts: 37,376
    In terms of the match against Chelsea, who has been playing Right-Back for the U21s of late.

    Wonder if we might give them a run out there, to protect REG
    Not sure we will as there’s not a clear first choice. Hobden has played RWB and RCB in a 3-5-2, but we’ve also used Fullah there (more of a winger/attacking midfielder, has also played CM) and Rylah (a winger). On the streams I’ve seen this season I wouldn’t expect any of them to be serious options for the first team at RB/RWB.
  • Ferryman
    Ferryman Posts: 2,921
    JohnnyH2 said:
    fenaddick said:
    JohnnyH2 said:
    fenaddick said:
    PopIcon said:
    cafc999 said:
    The EFL sold out
    An abomination of a tournament that has no place in either professional football or the match record of any club that has to participate in it.

    If it were my club and I was loaded, we’d be fielding our U 21’s, taking the fine, and stating publicly that the result would be expunged (great word) from the clubs 1st team records.
    It's a condition of our current level. I don't recall people moaning about it when we were in the Premier League.

    I wonder if the current naysayers would turn up if we made the final?
    that would be because it’s a totally different competition to what it was back then 
    As soon as we were relegated in 2009 we have had people moaning we should not be in it, even when it was just League 1 and 2 clubs.

    Personally we are at the level we deserve to be and playing in this comp is part of that
    I just fundamentally think the idea of a cup for L1/L2 is a silly one. Basically no one takes it seriously until the semi’s and players don’t need the extra games. Sure it gives young players a debut but it’s against other kids and peripheral figures so the benefits aren’t great 
    the prize money is something a lot of the competing clubs see as a benefit
    Winner receives 100k, runner up 50k, not too shabby for a very winnable competition compared to the FA Cup and League Cup. 
    But how many loss making games to get that far.
  • We did have a sell out at Hartlepool to be fair. Double edged sword, if we win the group we get a path through at home and have to stage the games, 2nd and off we possibly go to Reading or Stevenage again. Not sure what the SP is with players on loan from the Prem clubs in this anymore 
  • killerandflash
    killerandflash Posts: 69,846
    edited October 2024
    Nothing wrong with a solely L1 and L2 cup, as it was. Look at the list of winners, they're mainly clubs of our size and history, many now higher up than us.
  • Weegie Addick
    Weegie Addick Posts: 16,521
    Yesterday on the big screen they were promoting Peterborough on 16 Nov as the upcoming fixture. Even the club seem to have forgotten this one!
  • letthegoodtimesroll
    letthegoodtimesroll Posts: 10,619
    edited October 2024
    If Charlton don’t have the Southend tickets to be able to start selling them by tonight’s game then they should ask the FA for a bye to the next round; and they should insist that the ticket allocation for away fans is at least 15% of available capacity. 
  • NabySarr
    NabySarr Posts: 4,284
    fenaddick said:
    JohnnyH2 said:
    fenaddick said:
    JohnnyH2 said:
    fenaddick said:
    PopIcon said:
    cafc999 said:
    The EFL sold out
    An abomination of a tournament that has no place in either professional football or the match record of any club that has to participate in it.

    If it were my club and I was loaded, we’d be fielding our U 21’s, taking the fine, and stating publicly that the result would be expunged (great word) from the clubs 1st team records.
    It's a condition of our current level. I don't recall people moaning about it when we were in the Premier League.

    I wonder if the current naysayers would turn up if we made the final?
    that would be because it’s a totally different competition to what it was back then 
    As soon as we were relegated in 2009 we have had people moaning we should not be in it, even when it was just League 1 and 2 clubs.

    Personally we are at the level we deserve to be and playing in this comp is part of that
    I just fundamentally think the idea of a cup for L1/L2 is a silly one. Basically no one takes it seriously until the semi’s and players don’t need the extra games. Sure it gives young players a debut but it’s against other kids and peripheral figures so the benefits aren’t great 
    the prize money is something a lot of the competing clubs see as a benefit
    Winner receives 100k, runner up 50k, not too shabby for a very winnable competition compared to the FA Cup and League Cup. 
    Why not keep the money that goes into the cup and equally distribute amongst L1 and L2 teams though? 
    The money all comes from the prem teams, if they’re removed then so is the money 
  • shirty5
    shirty5 Posts: 19,223
    5 players made their Charlton Athletic first team debuts in this competition and then went on to gain full international cap(s) for their respective countries 

    2 of those went onto to play in the Premier League as well

    The positives that this competition can have for a player starting his journey (Or getting a second go with the club) 
  • MuttleyCAFC
    MuttleyCAFC Posts: 47,728
    A good tournament to try out a few things. 
  • Scoham
    Scoham Posts: 37,376
    shirty5 said:
    5 players made their Charlton Athletic first team debuts in this competition and then went on to gain full international cap(s) for their respective countries 

    2 of those went onto to play in the Premier League as well

    The positives that this competition can have for a player starting his journey (Or getting a second go with the club) 
    Who are the 5?
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  • sam3110
    sam3110 Posts: 21,265
    Really struggling to piece together a team for this one

    Maynard-Brewer
    Asiimwe A Mitchell Z.Mitchell Small
    Taylor 
    Anderson Kedwell
    A.Campbell
    Hylton MBick

    Maclorg, REG, Edwards, Docherty, T.Campbell, Leaburn, Dixon

    Probably got it completely wrong and most of them won't play
  • shirty5
    shirty5 Posts: 19,223
    sam3110 said:
    Really struggling to piece together a team for this one

    Maynard-Brewer
    Asiimwe A Mitchell Z.Mitchell Small
    Taylor 
    Anderson Kedwell
    A.Campbell
    Hylton MBick

    Maclorg, REG, Edwards, Docherty, T.Campbell, Leaburn, Dixon

    Probably got it completely wrong and most of them won't play
    Anderson will be suspended 
  • sam3110 said:
    Really struggling to piece together a team for this one

    Maynard-Brewer
    Asiimwe A Mitchell Z.Mitchell Small
    Taylor 
    Anderson Kedwell
    A.Campbell
    Hylton MBick

    Maclorg, REG, Edwards, Docherty, T.Campbell, Leaburn, Dixon

    Probably got it completely wrong and most of them won't play
    Surely Edun gets a game?
  • Redmidland
    Redmidland Posts: 44,700
    I'd like to see Dixon start and, if fit enough, play the whole game. Let's see how fast/good this kid is! 
  • Maynard-brewer 

    Asiimwe if back z Mitchell Potts small

    a Campbell Taylor edun

    dixon mbick rylah

    leaburn on the bench to get minutes plus a mixture of u-23’s and whoever else from Saturdays starting 11 
  • soapy_jones
    soapy_jones Posts: 21,353
    I'd like to see Dixon start and, if fit enough, play the whole game. Let's see how fast/good this kid is! 
    He'll be back on the Chelsea coach after the match and playing for their 11th team at the weekend, if he looks any good...
  • BigDiddy
    BigDiddy Posts: 1,188
    IdleHans said:
    Brownie12 said:
    I should imagine Chelsea will sell out - they won’t want to miss the opportunity to see Danny Hylton live in the flesh. 
    After seeing him yesterday, i'd have doubts about the live part

    He is a bit of a lump…...
  • sam3110
    sam3110 Posts: 21,265
    shirty5 said:
    sam3110 said:
    Really struggling to piece together a team for this one

    Maynard-Brewer
    Asiimwe A Mitchell Z.Mitchell Small
    Taylor 
    Anderson Kedwell
    A.Campbell
    Hylton MBick

    Maclorg, REG, Edwards, Docherty, T.Campbell, Leaburn, Dixon

    Probably got it completely wrong and most of them won't play
    Anderson will be suspended 
    Edun in for him then. 

    Tbh I completely forgot about him
  • Is the game being streamed live on Charlton TV 
  • JohnnyH2
    JohnnyH2 Posts: 5,342
    Is the game being streamed live on Charlton TV 
    No idea about that, but live on Sky