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I think that I've had enough

lancashire lad
lancashire lad Posts: 15,708
in General Charlton
Like many of you I have supported Charlton for over 50 years, I've seen us in all but the lowest league level and the way Jones has the team playing now is about the worst I've seen, they sold our 2 best players who now play for our competitors, they have brought in very few players as good as those two. I would accept this awful way of playing if we won more games but I just can't see it. Ok I do watch matches on CATV and not live but the current football is dross. I'll carry on doing the stats but not with pleasure. From his arrival I have thought Jones to be another poor manager and nothing has changed my mind.
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  • usetobunkin
    usetobunkin Posts: 2,275
    Will probably be my last season with a season ticket. And will probably bin VG. Feel really pissed off at the moment 
  • Oh Eddie Youds...
    Oh Eddie Youds... Posts: 1,320
    Losing at non league stadiums like Stevenage is always hard to take BUT it sadly is a reflection of the club we now are.
  • Cafcmunich
    Cafcmunich Posts: 210
    Living abroad, paying for the stream each week was always a nice way to unwind at the weekend and keep up my 40 years support of the club.
    Will take a break now as even during the early points haul, it has been awful to watch.
    Maybe one last time when Leaburn returns but one man don't change a team or a system.
  • Peter_G
    Peter_G Posts: 849
    “Brought in very few players as good as those two …” Not one of the new signings who is anywhere near as good as May or Dobson. We’ve lost two club heroes and Jones has replaced them with the Kenilworth Klowns.
  • Chunes
    Chunes Posts: 17,598
    edited September 2024
    We really need to have a good season this year. I don't think this fanbase can take much more. 

    Let's face it, the only people left are the hardcore. When even they're flagging, it's gotten pretty serious. 

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  • thenewbie
    thenewbie Posts: 11,059
    Callumcafc said:
    Bad run of form at the minute but don’t for a minute believe that this is worse than the nonsense we put up with through December, January and February last season.
    That should not be the bar we're looking to clear though.
  • Danny Addick
    Danny Addick Posts: 3,952
    I could not believe over the summer when I checked in that we were rumoured to be selling May. Outrageous decision, no matter how many neighbours he upset. 
  • Mendonca In Asdas
    Mendonca In Asdas Posts: 22,713
    Let’s be honest, a lot of us had enough years ago, but it’s a drug that pulls you back in.
  • LargeAddick
    LargeAddick Posts: 32,963
    I said at the beginning of the season that a place off place was the very least I’d accept. Recent performances have put that in doubt. However I can’t see much changing with the personnel we have. Maybe if we can hang around the top six and strengthen further in January we might achieve a top ten finish.

    It’s unfair to compare us to Birmingham who have spent what, 30m, to get out of League One or even Wrexham or Stockport who have confidence and momentum which counts for a lot in football. Then look at Bolton, they have spent about three seasons assembling their current squad. Nathan Jones has had one window. Rome wasn’t built in a day. He’s sorted us out defensively, maybe it will take a couple more windows to address the other glaring issues. I think it a tad unfair to expect him to work miracles. That’s not to say he’s not got questions to answer and some of the recruitment at the moment looks questionable at best but we need to give him time. Whatever one may think we are not going to attract anyone better.

    Will be interesting to revisit this at the end of October after we have beaten Birmingham, Stockport and Wrexham.
  • clb74
    clb74 Posts: 10,836
    For those that fancy it 
    The trains are out for Huddersfield away on November 23rd
  • Callumcafc
    Callumcafc Posts: 64,427
    thenewbie said:
    Callumcafc said:
    Bad run of form at the minute but don’t for a minute believe that this is worse than the nonsense we put up with through December, January and February last season.
    That should not be the bar we're looking to clear though.
    No but good things usually take time. Especially when there’s a big repair job that needs to happen.

    I’m pissed off and frustrated too but we’ve already tried going through manager after manager hoping for a quick fix.

    I’m clinging on to the fact that we’re at the early stages of the healing process. Giving up now would be like giving up on a diet because you’ve only lost two pounds in the first month.
  • swordfish
    swordfish Posts: 4,257
    I've been trying to become emotionally detached having long been geographically so and not attending, but to no avail. Counselling an option I suppose, or going to watch Kettering up the road instead. They're doing not bad so far in the league this season 
  • valleynick66
    valleynick66 Posts: 5,005
    You only ‘think’?

    🙁
  • Mendonca In Asdas
    Mendonca In Asdas Posts: 22,713
    Hate to say it after a defeat, as most are frustrated and wound up, and rightly so.

    I am absolutely sick of being in this division, it’s rarely enjoyable.

    But I’m taking a longer term approach, yes we are predictable, and not creative enough, my view is it would take us at least a couple of seasons to become a serious promotion candidate, it’s a huge ask to turn it around as we’ve had so many rubbish  players to pay off / get rid of, we’ve not been a serious club for years.

    A top 2 team would have gone there and won / got something out of that match today.

    What we could do with a Johnnie Robinson type of player in the team, never settle for second best, and knew how to cross a ball.



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  • IR94
    IR94 Posts: 837
    never bought the pre-season hype that selling dobby and may was good for the team, and the likes of Coventry are better then Dobby, the team is flat, no one plays with any pride or purpose, a whiff of a semi decent footballer and we sell him, that's been the model for years, and as expected the standards have dropped 
  • Fanny Fanackapan
    Fanny Fanackapan Posts: 18,819
    IR94 said:
    never bought the pre-season hype that selling dobby and may was good for the team, and the likes of Coventry are better then Dobby, the team is flat, no one plays with any pride or purpose, a whiff of a semi decent footballer and we sell him, that's been the model for years, and as expected the standards have dropped 

  • TellyTubby
    TellyTubby Posts: 3,579
    LargeAddick said:
    I said at the beginning of the season that a place off place was the very least I’d accept. Recent performances have put that in doubt. However I can’t see much changing with the personnel we have. Maybe if we can hang around the top six and strengthen further in January we might achieve a top ten finish.

    It’s unfair to compare us to Birmingham who have spent what, 30m, to get out of League One or even Wrexham or Stockport who have confidence and momentum which counts for a lot in football. Then look at Bolton, they have spent about three seasons assembling their current squad. Nathan Jones has had one window. Rome wasn’t built in a day. He’s sorted us out defensively, maybe it will take a couple more windows to address the other glaring issues. I think it a tad unfair to expect him to work miracles. That’s not to say he’s not got questions to answer and some of the recruitment at the moment looks questionable at best but we need to give him time. Whatever one may think we are not going to attract anyone better.

    Will be interesting to revisit this at the end of October after we have beaten Birmingham, Stockport and Wrexham.
    Our defence is vastly improved, absolutely right. I would suggest that the midfield is at about the same level and our front line is worse. Jones is responsible for all of these.

    What worries me is that Jones persists with an isolated striker, he forced our Golden Boot winner out wide last season where he was far less effective. He then forced him from the club. He bought a crap striker to replace him who has an abysmal scoring record, which continues this season in a Charlton shirt. To win matches the way Jones wants to play, we need a Darren Bent, I haven't seen one this season and probably won't again in my lifetime.

    Perhaps things will change when Miles returns, but we shouldn't be relying on one youngster to score goals and win matches.
  • BigRedEvil
    BigRedEvil Posts: 11,129
    My last away was Wembley nothing since has enticed me to go away. 5th season in L1 and the last few seasons have felt a chore to go to home games, it also doesn't help anyone half decent leaves at the first opportunity

    The latest owners have made some bad decisions Appleton, CBT and not replacing him , Dobson contract fiasco and May going.
  • RodneyCharltonTrotta
    RodneyCharltonTrotta Posts: 14,865
    Bedsaddick said:
    Callumcafc said:
    Bad run of form at the minute but don’t for a minute believe that this is worse than the nonsense we put up with through December, January and February last season.
    At least we had a goalscorer then . It’s becoming increasingly clear that letting May go ( I don’t want to hear the being near his family nonsense)  is one of the worst decisions we’ve made in many years and that’s from a club who specialises in making bad decisions.
    It was so obvious despite the bizarre pr exercise to spin it. Complete lack of ambition, foresight and competence in letting May and Dobson leave without replacements. 

    Those 2 with our defence this season would be great progress.
  • letthegoodtimesroll
    letthegoodtimesroll Posts: 10,793
    Sadly, I think if Nathan was to resign and go for the Cardiff job nobody would be too upset. WTF is going on ?
  • Bedsaddick
    Bedsaddick Posts: 24,977
    letthegoodtimesroll said:
    Sadly, I think if Nathan was to resign and go for the Cardiff job nobody would be too upset. WTF is going on ?
    Even if a new manager was to come in ( and I don’t think that should happen) he would still only have the same players to work with and as they say - You can’t polish a turd . 
  • carly burn
    carly burn Posts: 19,647
    edited September 2024
    The worry is and I suppose obvious to most is that Methven has repeatedly said that Charlton Athletic and League One really don't work. I assume he means as a commercial vessel. A money generator.
    So where do we, and equally importantly the investment group go if it looks like we will be spending another season in this Barren land??
  • Brownie12
    Brownie12 Posts: 1,558
    letthegoodtimesroll said:
    Sadly, I think if Nathan was to resign and go for the Cardiff job nobody would be too upset. WTF is going on ?
    A lot of people are just numb to it all. 
  • clb74
    clb74 Posts: 10,836
    Nicholas said:
    25-30 away games my 9 year old has been to over the last 3 years, with one win in a nothing game against cambridge 2 seasons ago, The club is shit the manager is shit and the players are shit. Absolutley fed up with it. The amount of times I have told it wont be long before we have a cracking game where we come back and win from 2 goals or a last minute winner in a big game but nope nothing, just shit manager after shit manager playing horrible negative fotoball. Shit club we are
    It's about the memories Nicholas.
    In years to come your 9 year old will thank you for those memories,  I'm not sure about his upcoming trip to Huddersfield though. 

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