To interject on the Solly stuff as the narrative has gone too far down a certain path on that one not to be corrected - he did offer to be available for the remainder of his contract, but was told no thanks. Therein lies the difference.
Assuming that is true why did Solly stay silent when Bowyer publicly said he had refused to play alongside Taylor and Davies? Even if he thought the timing was wrong with us fighting relegation surely he should have said it at the end of the season when he was leaving. No way would I allow someone to chuck me under the bus that way and not correct it.
I can absolutely see it being true given the type of person I’m led to believe that Chris is.
A petty squabble, that doesn’t change anything about what happened anyway, out in the open and latched onto by the press would have been the last thing he’d want.
Might not be the way that you or others would’ve handled it, but he’s not that kind of person.
To interject on the Solly stuff as the narrative has gone too far down a certain path on that one not to be corrected - he did offer to be available for the remainder of his contract, but was told no thanks. Therein lies the difference.
Assuming that is true why did Solly stay silent when Bowyer publicly said he had refused to play alongside Taylor and Davies? Even if he thought the timing was wrong with us fighting relegation surely he should have said it at the end of the season when he was leaving. No way would I allow someone to chuck me under the bus that way and not correct it.
I can absolutely see it being true given the type of person I’m led to believe that Chris is.
A petty squabble, that doesn’t change anything about what happened anyway, out in the open and latched onto by the press would have been the last thing he’d want.
Might not be the way that you or others would’ve handled it, but he’s not that kind of person.
Fair enough but he was here for something like 15 years or so (including through the youth), a one club man and for me and many other fans he was a genuine, bona fide club legend. So being dropped under a bus through deceit and having that tarnished is incredibly poor form from Bowyer and I reckon most people would want to put their side, that would not seem petty to me. I really don't think the press would have given a care had he put it in a leaving statement or similar.
What does he mean he opted against signing a short-term contract? Why would one have been needed? Surely he was still contracted to us at the time? Is he trying to male excuses?
It was the Covid stoppage season. Players contracts run out 30th June I believe. There were 6 further games beyond that. Some players played on, some refused to play after 30th June (Solly) and some refused to play at all (Taylor).
I assume we tried to arrange short term contracts to extend to the end of that seasons games, but he refused that also.
Did they specifically end on 30 June? If so, wouldn't that have affected numerous players - at Charlton and elsewhere?
I am pretty sure I remember that being the case at the time. It was debated A LOT on here due to Taylor’s decision. Many played on with what I assume would be a rolling contract.
exactly - he's just trying to have an excuse/justification
All contracts ending, end on 30th June. The covid season this remained the same. Some players and clubs negotiated an extension, Taylor and Solly did not, however I believe that Nabby Sarr's contract also expired on 30th June that year ut he decided to play on / agree a short term contract
The fact that Sarr agreed to play is irrelevant, his choice, Solly offered to play, the club declined his offer, the clubs choice, Taylor refused to play in at least 3 matches that he was contracted to play in if chosen, the remaining 3 games were his choice not to play in, that's his right, like it was Sarrs to decide to play. Taylor is trying to control the narrative and paint a different picture, I only care about the games he refused to play in whilst under contract, whether that be 3, 1 or 6, once his contract expired, don't care, move on.
Don't think I made a judgement in any sense just gave a context that was relevant to our club for post 30th June. The relevance is some did play others didn't even in our club.
If its not felt there is any relevance feel free to ignore, rant, whatever you like 😉
At the end if the day its all about
"Live, love, laugh and be happy".
Wasn't a dig at you, just felt that you cant compare one persons choices with anothers, or expect them to make the same choices
What does he mean he opted against signing a short-term contract? Why would one have been needed? Surely he was still contracted to us at the time? Is he trying to male excuses?
It was the Covid stoppage season. Players contracts run out 30th June I believe. There were 6 further games beyond that. Some players played on, some refused to play after 30th June (Solly) and some refused to play at all (Taylor).
I assume we tried to arrange short term contracts to extend to the end of that seasons games, but he refused that also.
Did they specifically end on 30 June? If so, wouldn't that have affected numerous players - at Charlton and elsewhere?
I am pretty sure I remember that being the case at the time. It was debated A LOT on here due to Taylor’s decision. Many played on with what I assume would be a rolling contract.
exactly - he's just trying to have an excuse/justification
All contracts ending, end on 30th June. The covid season this remained the same. Some players and clubs negotiated an extension, Taylor and Solly did not, however I believe that Nabby Sarr's contract also expired on 30th June that year ut he decided to play on / agree a short term contract
The fact that Sarr agreed to play is irrelevant, his choice, Solly offered to play, the club declined his offer, the clubs choice, Taylor refused to play in at least 3 matches that he was contracted to play in if chosen, the remaining 3 games were his choice not to play in, that's his right, like it was Sarrs to decide to play. Taylor is trying to control the narrative and paint a different picture, I only care about the games he refused to play in whilst under contract, whether that be 3, 1 or 6, once his contract expired, don't care, move on.
Don't think I made a judgement in any sense just gave a context that was relevant to our club for post 30th June. The relevance is some did play others didn't even in our club.
If its not felt there is any relevance feel free to ignore, rant, whatever you like 😉
At the end if the day its all about
"Live, love, laugh and be happy".
Wasn't a dig at you, just felt that you cant compare one persons choices with anothers, or expect them to make the same choices
The Sun is carrying the story too. Part of the interview in in the previous Twitter link. Don't think the insurance policy is previously mentioned. Seems ambiguous.
""We offered an insurance policy against me so that should I have got a long-term injury, it would have then meant that the loss of that contract was negated to a degree. That was rejected.
"We tried to find a way around the issues... there was an owner of the football club who stopped it from happening.
"So I had to make a decision that was best for me because the club had already made a decision that was best for them.
"At the end of the day, I'm still Judas because I made a decision for me.""
nail on head
Danny Cowley and Colchester must be really hard up to be hiring his sort we're not going to see him playing against us anytime soon 4 years since we've seen him at all definitely time to move on
If he stays fit , he will get 10-15 goals providing he makes 25-30 appearances. He wasn't't fit or sharp at Wycombe, and he got 3 goals at Cambridge before a debatable sending off. He'll be better this year.
He's 34 years old and hasn't had a decent season in front of goal in 4 years since with us. Said this before on another thread but once a player loses that form they very rarely recapture it, this is no different and no more than a last pay day for him.
The bigger problem he was always going to face was managers and teammates questioning his character. There have been boxers, who in a state of delirium have sensibly taken a knee and been labelled quitters.
After he did what he did for us you have to be absolutely confident he isn't going to disrupt the team spirit, isn't going to undermine you as a manager or quit when the going gets tough.
Good for him, he's pocketed a load of money Forest were stupid enough to pay him but his stock as a footballer is non-existent. And he is right there is no loyalty in football, its why people have contracts.
He is a revisionist, and he is destined to be a guest on cruddy football phone ins whenever a player of note, who has achieved something in the game goes renegade and he will wind us all up again and remind us all of what a rat he is
Leeds fans still talk about and have a hatred for Aizelwood who stuck up his fingers at their fans after scoring for them after receiving abuse. That was over 30 years ago. Some might say move on but I think the majority of Charlton fans hatred for Taylor will always remain. People don’t forget.
Leeds fans still talk about and have a hatred for Aizelwood who stuck up his fingers at their fans after scoring for them after receiving abuse. That was over 30 years ago. Some might say move on but I think the majority of Charlton fans hatred for Taylor will always remain. People don’t forget.
I remember him doing that to us as well, at Selhurst Park.
Leeds fans still talk about and have a hatred for Aizelwood who stuck up his fingers at their fans after scoring for them after receiving abuse. That was over 30 years ago. Some might say move on but I think the majority of Charlton fans hatred for Taylor will always remain. People don’t forget.
Nothing is certain in life...... as the saying goes. No one can prove what would have happened if he had played, particularly if he played and held back as worried about getting injured. But it is because of what happened when he didn't play - I think most people believe strongly we would have got at least 1 extra point if he had played - and that is a fair assessment
The Sun is carrying the story too. Part of the interview in in the previous Twitter link. Don't think the insurance policy is previously mentioned. Seems ambiguous.
""We offered an insurance policy against me so that should I have got a long-term injury, it would have then meant that the loss of that contract was negated to a degree. That was rejected.
"We tried to find a way around the issues... there was an owner of the football club who stopped it from happening.
"So I had to make a decision that was best for me because the club had already made a decision that was best for them.
"At the end of the day, I'm still Judas because I made a decision for me.""
Lyle has spoken a lot in the past about the reasons behind his refusal to play for Charlton
But this is the first I'm hearing hm talk about this?
Weird he's just mentioned it now when he's been spouting shit abt the whole saga for the last 4yrs! I call bullshit!
LT got his first goal of the season. If this game is anything to go by its going to be a struggle this season as they went 3-1 against 10 men and only got a draw.
Since refusing to play for Charlton Taylor has done virtually nothing on the pitch unlike his colleague who also refused to play David Davis, who, after a sticky period, has now landed a dream move to Kidderminster Harriers.
Back among the goals today with a brace v Tranmere. Odds of 16/1 for that helping to keep me in credit at skybet so far this season. The hat-trick was great value at 100/1 and no doubt shorter next time out.
Another goal that makes 4 for this season. Missed another difficult chance, and lost a ball in hold up play that resulted in a goal against. Overdone the pink hair, but well on course for 10/15 goals this season if he stays fit and plays.
Another goal that makes 4 for this season. Missed another difficult chance, and lost a ball in hold up play that resulted in a goal against. Overdone the pink hair, but well on course for 10/15 goals this season if he stays fit and plays.
He’s got some front, “What happened at the end, happened at the end. I don’t hold any ill will towards the football club.” If there’s any ill to be felt it should be the club towards him.
He’s got some front, “What happened at the end, happened at the end. I don’t hold any ill will towards the football club.” If there’s any ill to be felt it should be the club towards him.
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A petty squabble, that doesn’t change anything about what happened anyway, out in the open and latched onto by the press would have been the last thing he’d want.
Might not be the way that you or others would’ve handled it, but he’s not that kind of person.
Fair enough but he was here for something like 15 years or so (including through the youth), a one club man and for me and many other fans he was a genuine, bona fide club legend.
So being dropped under a bus through deceit and having that tarnished is incredibly poor form from Bowyer and I reckon most people would want to put their side, that would not seem petty to me.
I really don't think the press would have given a care had he put it in a leaving statement or similar.
For those interested, in depth interview on his reasons for joining CUFC here- https://fanbanter.co.uk/lyle-taylor-keen-to-make-an-impact-at-colchester-after-his-exit-from-cambridge/
Today's Lyle Taylor Factoid: Last worked with the Cowleys 15 years ago when they were at Concord Rangers.
After he did what he did for us you have to be absolutely confident he isn't going to disrupt the team spirit, isn't going to undermine you as a manager or quit when the going gets tough.
Good for him, he's pocketed a load of money Forest were stupid enough to pay him but his stock as a footballer is non-existent. And he is right there is no loyalty in football, its why people have contracts.
He is a revisionist, and he is destined to be a guest on cruddy football phone ins whenever a player of note, who has achieved something in the game goes renegade and he will wind us all up again and remind us all of what a rat he is
That was over 30 years ago.
Some might say move on but I think the majority of Charlton fans hatred for Taylor will always remain. People don’t forget.
- Now at Colchester (bottom half of League Two)
If there’s any ill to be felt it should be the club towards him.
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In fact I do 🤬🤬🤬🤬🤬🤬.
HE HAS NO ILL WILL ??????
WTAF
I wished for once one if these numpty reporters actually asks the question.......
"But the last 9 games included 4 that were within your contract. Why did you not play those 4 matches...."
Argh........
Oh that's all ok then.